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Neu-Pommern
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Postby Neu-Pommern » Wed Oct 15, 2014 11:22 pm

This might sound a little harsh... But how much research did you do? Because honestly it looks like you slapped on whatever you thought looked cool. I was totally guilty of that when learning Shipbucket; and I learned to research every pixel. That's why I never do kitbashes.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Thu Oct 16, 2014 12:59 am

Neu-Pommern wrote:https://i.imgur.com/ttBjET1.png

DDGN-001 Bismark

Because reasons.

The missile between VL-ASROC and Standard 2 is Standard-P, which is and indigenous Standard variant; RIM-174 without the booster and with an additional optical seeker.

The rocket booster is there to actually get the missile off the deck of the ship, unless you have some insanely powerful engine that can get the thing up to a safe altitude in two seconds.

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Postby Yukonastan » Thu Oct 16, 2014 1:02 am

Neu-Pommern wrote:https://i.imgur.com/ttBjET1.png

DDGN-001 Bismark

Because reasons.

The missile between VL-ASROC and Standard 2 is Standard-P, which is and indigenous Standard variant; RIM-174 without the booster and with an additional optical seeker.


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Postby Neu-Pommern » Thu Oct 16, 2014 1:08 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Neu-Pommern wrote:https://i.imgur.com/ttBjET1.png

DDGN-001 Bismark

Because reasons.

The missile between VL-ASROC and Standard 2 is Standard-P, which is and indigenous Standard variant; RIM-174 without the booster and with an additional optical seeker.

The rocket booster is there to actually get the missile off the deck of the ship, unless you have some insanely powerful engine that can get the thing up to a safe altitude in two seconds.


I'm using the Standard 2MR (RIM-66) as the base, not the Standard 2ER (RIM-67). MR doesn't use a booster.

Edit: Assuming you were referring to the Standard 2 and Standard-P missiles? If you're not I'd like to hear what I'm missing.
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Postby Kassaran » Thu Oct 16, 2014 2:53 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Neu-Pommern wrote:https://i.imgur.com/ttBjET1.png

DDGN-001 Bismark

Because reasons.

The missile between VL-ASROC and Standard 2 is Standard-P, which is and indigenous Standard variant; RIM-174 without the booster and with an additional optical seeker.

The rocket booster is there to actually get the missile off the deck of the ship, unless you have some insanely powerful engine that can get the thing up to a safe altitude in two seconds.

Unless, what is the likelihood of making a coilgun launcher for missiles? We're not talking something powerful enough to sling it at Mach 5, but perhaps something to get it up and high enough away from the ship to begin an optimal launch in-air?
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Postby The Soodean Imperium » Thu Oct 16, 2014 3:02 am

Kassaran wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:The rocket booster is there to actually get the missile off the deck of the ship, unless you have some insanely powerful engine that can get the thing up to a safe altitude in two seconds.

Unless, what is the likelihood of making a coilgun launcher for missiles? We're not talking something powerful enough to sling it at Mach 5, but perhaps something to get it up and high enough away from the ship to begin an optimal launch in-air?

Replace the Coilgun with something sane, and you have a Cold Launch.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vertical_l ... old_launch
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Postby Oaledonia » Thu Oct 16, 2014 3:49 am

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Postby San-Silvacian » Thu Oct 16, 2014 5:43 am

Valdiu wrote:A. Because I know nothing about this (which is why Im graciously asking NS).
B. That's just its theoretical lineup.


The helis operating off this should be ASW based.
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Postby Roski » Thu Oct 16, 2014 5:44 am

Guise I know how to make a missile battleship
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Postby Oaledonia » Thu Oct 16, 2014 6:53 am

Roski wrote:Guise I know how to make a missile battleship

Battleships are dumb unless they are of The Fog, like my battleships.
Bonus effectiveness if the mental models are adorable.
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Postby Valdiu » Thu Oct 16, 2014 7:04 am

Neu-Pommern wrote:This might sound a little harsh... But how much research did you do? Because honestly it looks like you slapped on whatever you thought looked cool. I was totally guilty of that when learning Shipbucket; and I learned to research every pixel. That's why I never do kitbashes.

You are absolutely right - absolutely none. This is my first time doing ships. Do you have any resources where I could start?
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Postby Oaledonia » Thu Oct 16, 2014 7:58 am

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Oaledonia wrote:I'll go make my own genocidal galactic empire! with blackjack and hookers

You bet your ass you will!
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The Soodean Imperium
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Postby The Soodean Imperium » Thu Oct 16, 2014 8:03 am

Valdiu wrote:
Neu-Pommern wrote:This might sound a little harsh... But how much research did you do? Because honestly it looks like you slapped on whatever you thought looked cool. I was totally guilty of that when learning Shipbucket; and I learned to research every pixel. That's why I never do kitbashes.

You are absolutely right - absolutely none. This is my first time doing ships. Do you have any resources where I could start?

Shipbucket's forum has a guide to shipbuilding which you may find useful, from the early 20th century up to the present, for destroyers and frigates.
Unfortunately it lacks references for the distinct Soviet shipbuilding style of 1975-1990 (i.e., heavy AShM battery but poor AA/RCS reduction) but as an introduction it is still very useful for you to take a look at.

http://www.shipbucket.com/forums/viewto ... ilit=guide
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Aznazia
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Postby Aznazia » Thu Oct 16, 2014 8:09 am

The Soodean Imperium wrote:
Valdiu wrote:You are absolutely right - absolutely none. This is my first time doing ships. Do you have any resources where I could start?

Shipbucket's forum has a guide to shipbuilding which you may find useful, from the early 20th century up to the present, for destroyers and frigates.
Unfortunately it lacks references for the distinct Soviet shipbuilding style of 1975-1990 (i.e., heavy AShM battery but poor AA/RCS reduction) but as an introduction it is still very useful for you to take a look at.

http://www.shipbucket.com/forums/viewto ... ilit=guide


Hmmm this could be a useful link!

Also here are some of my destroyers:

http://i.imgur.com/JNBXwcK.png

http://i.imgur.com/1daLgPG.png
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Postby The Akasha Colony » Thu Oct 16, 2014 10:35 am

Aznazia wrote:
The Soodean Imperium wrote:Shipbucket's forum has a guide to shipbuilding which you may find useful, from the early 20th century up to the present, for destroyers and frigates.
Unfortunately it lacks references for the distinct Soviet shipbuilding style of 1975-1990 (i.e., heavy AShM battery but poor AA/RCS reduction) but as an introduction it is still very useful for you to take a look at.

http://www.shipbucket.com/forums/viewto ... ilit=guide


Hmmm this could be a useful link!

Also here are some of my destroyers:

http://i.imgur.com/JNBXwcK.png

http://i.imgur.com/1daLgPG.png


Is there a rear-mounted radar panel that is not visible on the DeLunio-class? The two broadside panels toward the rear would leave a 60 degree gap otherwise.
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Postby Heicliffe » Thu Oct 16, 2014 11:04 am

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Aznazia
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Postby Aznazia » Thu Oct 16, 2014 11:27 am

The Akasha Colony wrote:
Aznazia wrote:
Hmmm this could be a useful link!

Also here are some of my destroyers:

http://i.imgur.com/JNBXwcK.png

http://i.imgur.com/1daLgPG.png



Is there a rear-mounted radar panel that is not visible on the DeLunio-class? The two broadside panels toward the rear would leave a 60 degree gap otherwise.


Yes there is. It is mounted on the port side next to the hangar entrance on the starboard side.
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Anti: Communism, Corruption, Crony-Capitalism, Accommodation, Fascism, Religious Extremism, Neo-Progressivism.
Peace Time: 450,000 total

Breakdown by branch (peace time):
    -Army: 250,000
    -Navy: 100,000
    -Marines: 35,000
    -Air force: 65,000
Population: 98.362 Million
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Oaledonia
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Postby Oaledonia » Thu Oct 16, 2014 11:51 am

Is it wise to transform the Mogami and Fuso classes into BBVs? I'm asking for reasons.
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Aznazia
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Postby Aznazia » Thu Oct 16, 2014 12:31 pm

Oaledonia wrote:Is it wise to transform the Mogami and Fuso classes into BBVs? I'm asking for reasons.


Isn't the Fuso pretty much the same as the Ise Class? If so then I say go for it.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... se1944.png

The Mogami probably would be ok to since it already has two sea plane catapults and has three forward turrets.
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My Political View: https://www.politicalcompass.org/chart?ec=4.13&soc=2.82
Pro: USA, Guns, Republic, Capitalism, Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Religion, Gay Rights, Patriotism, Environment, Green Energy.
Anti: Communism, Corruption, Crony-Capitalism, Accommodation, Fascism, Religious Extremism, Neo-Progressivism.
Peace Time: 450,000 total

Breakdown by branch (peace time):
    -Army: 250,000
    -Navy: 100,000
    -Marines: 35,000
    -Air force: 65,000
Population: 98.362 Million
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Postby Oaledonia » Thu Oct 16, 2014 12:40 pm

Aznazia wrote:Isn't the Fuso pretty much the same as the Ise Class

No.
And for answering incorrectly, I hate you now.
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You bet your ass you will!
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Postby Oaledonia » Thu Oct 16, 2014 12:42 pm

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The lovable PMT nation of hugs and chibi! Now with 75% more Hanyū!
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Blackjack-and-Hookers wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:I'll go make my own genocidal galactic empire! with blackjack and hookers

You bet your ass you will!
Divair wrote:NSG summer doesn't end anymore. Climate change.
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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Thu Oct 16, 2014 12:58 pm


Dat reversed No. 3 turret.
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Aznazia
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Postby Aznazia » Thu Oct 16, 2014 1:09 pm

Oaledonia wrote:
Aznazia wrote:Isn't the Fuso pretty much the same as the Ise Class

No.
And for answering incorrectly, I hate you now.



Oh I forgot that the funnel of the Fuso is in between the number 3 and number 4 turrets...

:P
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My Political View: https://www.politicalcompass.org/chart?ec=4.13&soc=2.82
Pro: USA, Guns, Republic, Capitalism, Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Religion, Gay Rights, Patriotism, Environment, Green Energy.
Anti: Communism, Corruption, Crony-Capitalism, Accommodation, Fascism, Religious Extremism, Neo-Progressivism.
Peace Time: 450,000 total

Breakdown by branch (peace time):
    -Army: 250,000
    -Navy: 100,000
    -Marines: 35,000
    -Air force: 65,000
Population: 98.362 Million
Current Chancellor: Fredrick Pudikov
Minister of Foreign Affairs: Dwight Folwer
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Postby Republica Federal de Catalunya » Thu Oct 16, 2014 1:33 pm

MT navy. So no BBs or Cruisers.

Aside: CVNs are our most powerful combattants, there are also CVS, DDG, FFG, FS and SSK organized in flotillas and mission task forces. I got some SSBNs, SSN in the strategic deterrend force.
They are supported by minor combattants for coastal, minewarfare and patrol roles. And several none combattans as LPDs, tenders, oilers and supply ships.

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