Your Nations Warships, MKII

[Macedonian Grand Empire]

Do you think that there could any effective defense put up by an aircraft carrier against a Hypersonic Cruise Missile?

Kill the launcher before it can launch.
Avoid detection/Shoot down enemy AWACS/surveillance aircraft
Deploy AWACS craft and picket ships to detect incoming missiles far from the fleet.
Using ground and air based air defenses, intercept the missile.

Guys tell him about its range as well.

[Pharthan]

There is in fact a major difference in capability and role between Ticonderogas and Burkes.

So much so, that they're replacing them with Flight III Burkes. (Which, admittedly, will have a more comprehensive radar/electronic warfare suite.)

The Tic is bigger, obviously, but the biggest difference is that it opts for the Mk26 whereas the Burke goes for more VLS; many of the radars and electronics are similar, if not better on the Burke. The Tic's got a better Sonar array.

[Zeinbrad]

The East Europan Autocratic State Navy during the Not!Crimea War. Note, Europa was more advanced then Earth, at least during the 1800's

Pallada-class cruiser
Svetlana-class cruiser
Borodino-class battlecruiser
Gangut-class battleship
Russian cruiser Rossia
Russian destroyer Novik (1911)
Ekaterina II-class battleship
Russian submarine Delfin (One of, if not the first submarine to ever sink a ship)

I'm thinking of the Autocratic State (Imperial) navy getting in a naval battle with the Holy Britannian Empire Navy.

Who would win? One-sided or not?

[Organized States]

Kill the launcher before it can launch.
Avoid detection/Shoot down enemy AWACS/surveillance aircraft
Deploy AWACS craft and picket ships to detect incoming missiles far from the fleet.
Using ground and air based air defenses, intercept the missile.

Guys tell him about its range as well.

Well, the range is not an issue. Range is over 2,000 miles. DARPA's hypersonic kill vehicle destroyed a ship in the Reagan Testing Range from Hawaii, that's about 2,500 miles.

[Allentyr]

SNIPPY SNIP

Thanks for the feedback. I'm currently editing the Farsight to use aspects of the Visby, to utilize stealth. And thanks for the link too.
Your name shall be used in the next ship's name, if you would let me.

SNIPPY SNIP

The Hydra's a multirole missile system carrying small (about the size of an AIM-9) AA missiles on the top rack and slightly larger (Maybe a MK-81) anti-ship missiles on the lower rack. It should be about the size of the MLRS the US Marines currently use... I forgot the name.

[Crookfur]

SNIPPY SNIP

Thanks for the feedback. I'm currently editing the Farsight to use aspects of the Visby, to utilize stealth. And thanks for the link too.
Your name shall be used in the next ship's name, if you would let me.

SNIPPY SNIP

The Hydra's a multirole missile system carrying small (about the size of an AIM-9) AA missiles on the top rack and slightly larger (Maybe a MK-81) anti-ship missiles on the lower rack. It should be about the size of the MLRS the US Marines currently use... I forgot the name.

Do you mean HIMARS: http://www.marines.com/operating-forces ... les/himars

if so you would hard pressed to fit mroe than 8-10 AIM-9 sized SAMs or maybe 4 harpoon sized anti shippign missiels (which i asume you mean as the Mk-81 is a 250lb bomb). yes you could fit these sorts of numbers of both types of missiles on your ship at the same time at the sort of size i am guessing its aimed at but not in the same launcher, that a huge degree of complciation you don't need.

A twelve tube Mk-48 VLS for ESSM coudl be easily fitted, filling your air defence needs nicely as could a pair of twin tube box launchers for harpoon or exocet.

[New Vihenia]

Putting it all together into one big brochure :3

Marielle Class SSK

[Triplebaconation]

There is in fact a major difference in capability and role between Ticonderogas and Burkes.

So much so, that they're replacing them with Flight III Burkes. (Which, admittedly, will have a more comprehensive radar/electronic warfare suite.)

The Tic is bigger, obviously, but the biggest difference is that it opts for the Mk26 whereas the Burke goes for more VLS; many of the radars and electronics are similar, if not better on the Burke. The Tic's got a better Sonar array.

Flight III Burkes will (hopefully) have a long-range volume search radar.

Mk26??? How is that relevant any more?

[Distruzio]

The advent of stealth tech (and its proliferation) certainly calls the future of missile combat into question unless a more effective method of detection can be developed and utilized.

That would call the use of guns further into question than missiles, since they use equal or less-than-equal forms of detection, generally speaking.

... yeah... I'd say you're correct.

[The Akasha Colony]

That would call the use of guns further into question than missiles, since they use equal or less-than-equal forms of detection, generally speaking.

... yeah... I'd say you're correct.

This more effective method of detection might be known as "better radar." Despite what it may seem like in many NS threads, stealth is not even close to a magic bullet in terms of detection.

[New Vihenia]

Dang...i really need smaller submarine if i ever need to go 40++ knots...

Just learned that upper limit of shaft horsepower that can be attained by submarine with single shaft propulsion is around 60000-70000 Shp.

That's why so far i seen Shp rating of nuclear sub "stopped" At best 50000 Shp. More power rating require another set of propulsor assembly. Thus the reason 100000 Shp Oscar class and 80000 Shp Papa class were twin shaft.

Thus my Emilia Vandaria class cannot into 40++ knot but only 37 at max, assuming 70000 Shp of power.

My source material is "Atomic Powered Submarine Design" by V.M Bukalov & A.A Narusbayev. 1964

Download is here :3
http://fissilematerials.org/library/buk67.pdf

Only chapter 8 though.

Thoughts are welcome.

[San-Silvacian]

is a GE&T storefront comming?

maybe.

[Distruzio]

... yeah... I'd say you're correct.

This more effective method of detection might be known as "better radar." Despite what it may seem like in many NS threads, stealth is not even close to a magic bullet in terms of detection.

Quite true. And, due to the criticism (well received btw) given my nation in this thread, I've revamped my nation to better reflect a more realistic existence - sans airships.

Takes a look at mah factbook?

[Anomalous Research and Containment-]

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is a GE&T storefront comming?

maybe.

TARDIS ship.

[Distruzio]

Since I've decided to bring Distruzio more into line with modern tech nations this will be a revised description of the Roayal Navy:

Being a small island nation in the Ionian Sea, Distruzio relies on her modest fleet to provide protection and allow her the soft power projection necessary for her humanitarian efforts abroad.

She possesses two Sauro-class submarines, purchased from the government of Italy; the S519 Carlo Fecia di Cossato rechristened the Hidden Jewel and the S521 Guglielmo Marconi rechristened the Hidden Scepter. In addition, Distruzio has negotiated with the Italian government to purchase two San Giorgio-class amphibious transport docks upon completion of their replacement vessels. The two Audace-class destroyers decommissioned by the Italian navy, the Audace and the Ardito are currently in service by the Royal Navy. Italy has agreed to sell four of her Maestrale-class frigates, theMaestrale, Espero, Aliseo & Euro, upon the commission of the FREMM ASW frigate replacements.

Distruzio currently has no aircraft carriers, no corvettes, and no patrol vessels instead relying on international agreements with Italy and France to aide in defence.

[Prussian-Polish]

Is the visby class corvette a good investment for a small navy?

[Anomalous Research and Containment-]

Yes, provided you fund all the weapons systems for it.

[Prussian-Polish]

In my naval layout, my main weapon would be submarines in this case, so I'm considering the Ohio class SSBM and Borei Class Attack Sub

[Pimps Inc]

Pimp$ Grand Navy

Destroyers
40:Iroquois Class destroyers
40:Delhi Class destroyers
30:Arleigh-Burke Class destroyers
20:Tower of Pimps Class destroyers
http://aviationintel.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/ID47140_600.jpg

Cruisers
60 Mad King Class Cruisers

Battleships
S.S. X-Ray
S.S. Mogar
S.S. Vav
S.S.Pimp
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-yMK_brcO10s/T9N_ayPzxoI/AAAAAAAAB40/-xQrjZxmQnA/s1600/Block+out+1.jpg

Aircraft Carriers
S.S. Tower of Pimps
S.S. Kraken
S.S Neptune
S.S. Hunter
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-8F1kYDE-K2E/T8bp0R4rjDI/AAAAAAAABDE/iFuOmcc1ra4/s1600/CVN-78.jpg

Submarines
7 Bay of Pimps Class Submarines http://rajmehta19.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/submarine.jpg

3 Titan Class Nuclear Submarines http://wallpapersus.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Fish-Submarine.jpg

10 Assault Submarines
http://dbwilde.home.comcast.net/~dbwilde/NavalScans/1942Detroit.jpg


Other
Helicarriers:2
Transport ship:7,000
http://www.fas.org/man//dod-101/sys/ship/arsenal_72.jpg

The Helicarrier Horizon
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-4lQvW7y5pkQ/UP89Au5dz1I/AAAAAAAAA-U/NXmFf8GwQ8Y/s1600/Helicarrier16_Web.jpg

[Anomalous Research and Containment-]

In my naval layout, my main weapon would be submarines in this case, so I'm considering the Ohio class SSBM and Borei Class Attack Sub

What types of submarines you have depends on where you intend to operate. Deep ocean? Black Sea or Baltic? Is your submarine fleet going to be operating near your shores, or far from them?

[Nesixar]

The flagship of our navy, the NPRN Azatarion

http://imgur.com/nquJIqj?tags

The Azatarion represents the largest and most powerful vessel in our navy. She is rather peculiar, since the rest of the force is dedicated primarily to smaller and more nimble and specialized craft. The Azatarion Class was designed and implemented under the idea that Nesixar's fleet doctrine would benefit from a large "backbone" from which actions could be guided, and a powerful central ship to aid in the actions of the lesser ships. She is an impressive vessel, and can take on most other ships in the world. Though only middling to the likes of a Yamato or Bismarck, such as they are no longer the rule and at present she is the largest and most powerful battleship-type vessel employed by any nation in the world today.

[San-Silvacian]

An Oliver-Hazard Perry class frigate can take this out.

And this is your most powerful ship, I really don't want to look at the rest of your navy.

Also please don't rip SB.

[Triplebaconation]

My favorite part is the giant rangefinder below the turrets.

[Lubyak]

The flagship of our navy, the NPRN Azatarion

http://imgur.com/nquJIqj?tags

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The Azatarion represents the largest and most powerful vessel in our navy. She is rather peculiar, since the rest of the force is dedicated primarily to smaller and more nimble and specialized craft. The Azatarion Class was designed and implemented under the idea that Nesixar's fleet doctrine would benefit from a large "backbone" from which actions could be guided, and a powerful central ship to aid in the actions of the lesser ships. She is an impressive vessel, and can take on most other ships in the world. Though only middling to the likes of a Yamato or Bismarck, such as they are no longer the rule and at present she is the largest and most powerful battleship-type vessel employed by any nation in the world today.

There's a reason there's no battleships left in the world. They have no purpouse and no role in the modern fleet. There's no reason why a surface action group or a carrier group needs some kind of ship like this.

[Kouralia]

The flagship of our navy, the NPRN Azatarion

http://imgur.com/nquJIqj?tags

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There's a reason there's no battleships left in the world. They have no purpouse and no role in the modern fleet. There's no reason why a surface action group or a carrier group needs some kind of ship like this.

Obviously we can turn to the Royal Navy's still-in-Commission Flagship of the First Sea Lord.