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Postby New Vihenia » Sun Mar 30, 2014 11:18 pm

San-Silvacian wrote:my cruiser carries Exocet ;-;


Only exocet ? If so then it's not Cruiser :3
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Postby San-Silvacian » Sun Mar 30, 2014 11:34 pm

New Vihenia wrote:
San-Silvacian wrote:my cruiser carries Exocet ;-;


Only exocet ? If so then it's not Cruiser :3


still could wrek ur navy
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Postby New Vihenia » Sun Mar 30, 2014 11:36 pm

San-Silvacian wrote:
still could wrek ur navy


well if small exocet can do the wrecking.. I wonder what my navy's Yakhont and Vulkan can do :3.
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Postby San-Silvacian » Sun Mar 30, 2014 11:48 pm

New Vihenia wrote:
San-Silvacian wrote:
still could wrek ur navy


well if small exocet can do the wrecking.. I wonder what my navy's Yakhont and Vulkan can do :3.


Aster series make null ur AShM.
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Postby New Vihenia » Sun Mar 30, 2014 11:59 pm

San-Silvacian wrote:Aster series make null ur AShM.


then same goes for ma Kashtans and 9M96's :3
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Postby Pharthan » Mon Mar 31, 2014 12:57 am

San-Silvacian wrote:(Image)

carrier process so far, still a wip

going for 20-30 aircraft, both fixed and rotor wing. If I can, 40 would be gr8.

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Postby Gallia- » Mon Mar 31, 2014 1:41 am

New Vihenia wrote:
San-Silvacian wrote:
still could wrek ur navy


well if small exocet can do the wrecking.. I wonder what my navy's Yakhont and Vulkan can do :3.


Nothing, because the structure and inherent robustness of support system is more important than warhead weight.

New Vihenia wrote:
San-Silvacian wrote:Aster series make null ur AShM.


then same goes for ma Kashtans and 9M96's :3


Seawolf obsoletes your gigantic anti-submarine battlecruiser.
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Postby New Vihenia » Mon Mar 31, 2014 1:54 am

Gallia- wrote:
Nothing, because the structure and inherent robustness of support system is more important than warhead weight.


How robust typical ship structure when subjected to 900 Kg of warhead ?

New Vihenia wrote:
Seawolf obsoletes your gigantic anti-submarine battlecruiser.


1st wrong.. I use no gigantic anti submarine battlecruiser.

2nd wrong.. My Sonar isn't soviet sonar.

Cut that mother fucking cold war mentality already.. It's very annoying.
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Postby The Soodean Imperium » Mon Mar 31, 2014 5:11 am

New Vihenia wrote:My definition for cruiser..is that they are capable of carrying larger AsHM than Destroyers or Frigate. :3

Tarantul-III class corvettes carry P-270 Moskit. Your argument is invalid :p
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Postby Felucian Planetary Republic » Mon Mar 31, 2014 7:17 am

The most common warship of the FPR is the Venator Class Attack Cruiser (Star Destroyer).
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Postby Gallia- » Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:05 am

New Vihenia wrote:
Gallia- wrote:
Nothing, because the structure and inherent robustness of support system is more important than warhead weight.


How robust typical ship structure when subjected to 900 Kg of warhead ?

New Vihenia wrote:
Seawolf obsoletes your gigantic anti-submarine battlecruiser.


1st wrong.. I use no gigantic anti submarine battlecruiser.

2nd wrong.. My Sonar isn't soviet sonar.

Cut that mother fucking cold war mentality already.. It's very annoying.


1) Unimportant, as the supporting structure of datalinks ensures that it will never be hit in the first place. o:

2) You use Soviet anti-submarine weapons (I'm pretty sure?), welcome to losing. Using any advanced Soviet weapon is a sign of a diminished technology industry and inferior integrated circuit production, though, so S-400 will equally predispose your industry to losing.
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Postby Kouralia » Mon Mar 31, 2014 1:20 pm

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Toot-toot, Kouralian Coast Guard is here for your passports and illegal weapons.

What do you mean it looks like a Damen Stan 5009?
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Postby -The Unified Earth Governments- » Mon Mar 31, 2014 1:24 pm

Kouralia wrote:(Image)

Toot-toot, Kouralian Coast Guard is here for your passports and illegal weapons.

What do you mean it looks like a Damen Stan 5009?
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Postby Macedonian Grand Empire » Mon Mar 31, 2014 1:25 pm

Kouralia wrote:(Image)

Toot-toot, Kouralian Coast Guard is here for your passports and illegal weapons.

What do you mean it looks like a Damen Stan 5009?
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Hmm your coast guard is called the financial police? :P
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Postby San-Silvacian » Mon Mar 31, 2014 1:26 pm

Kouralia wrote:(Image)

Toot-toot, Kouralian Coast Guard is here for your passports and illegal weapons.

What do you mean it looks like a Damen Stan 5009?
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needs phalanx to spray drug traffickers.
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Postby Urran » Mon Mar 31, 2014 1:27 pm

Police of Finances? :rofl:
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Postby Kouralia » Mon Mar 31, 2014 1:41 pm

-The Unified Earth Governments- wrote:
Kouralia wrote:(Image)

Toot-toot, Kouralian Coast Guard is here for your passports and illegal weapons.

What do you mean it looks like a Damen Stan 5009?
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Macedonian Grand Empire wrote:Hmm your coast guard is called the financial police? :P

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What can I change? No, it doesn't submerge, but it does utilize railguns like before, except this time with slower muzzle velocity than most others. Wouldn't it be easier to simply make the projectile travel more slowly and preserve the barrel that way? Also, yes, it has VLS missile capabilities, but they'll be for BVR engagements while the slow-firing RG's are going to be the mid-range engagement artillery and then three 18mm Rotary Point-Defense Cannon systems are mounted on various points of the central bridge structure: Two on either side forward of the main antennae while one sits just behind it. In addition, two manned guns are on either side of the bridge structure as well as four torpedo tubes which release above the water from special tubes just below the decking.

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Kouralia wrote:
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Thank'ee.
Macedonian Grand Empire wrote:Hmm your coast guard is called the financial police? :P

Nope, no precedent for that at all IRL.
Urran wrote:Police of Finances? :rofl:

I'll translate it to Financial Guard (Regiment), for back story, badassery, tradition, and 'I haven't translated 'Financial Guard into Kouralian yet'.


How good are you at art in general, at this rate I'm willing to sell myself for some help.
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Postby Kouralia » Mon Mar 31, 2014 11:31 pm

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How good are you at art in general, at this rate I'm willing to sell myself for some help.

It depends on what type of help, and what you mean by 'good'.

Also, would it be regular for an LHD under way to have helicopters on its deck even if it were (in theory) to be in a 'no threat of anything at all' area i.e. if Sweden owned all the land bordering on the Baltic sea, would a Swedish LHD going through the Sea be likely to have helicopters on its deck?
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Postby -The Unified Earth Governments- » Mon Mar 31, 2014 11:42 pm

I need art for ships for my Ecumene nation, good enough really, and there is already a basic design that they have (But its all concept art!)
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Postby Connori Pilgrims » Tue Apr 01, 2014 12:04 am

Kouralia wrote:
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How good are you at art in general, at this rate I'm willing to sell myself for some help.

It depends on what type of help, and what you mean by 'good'.

Also, would it be regular for an LHD under way to have helicopters on its deck even if it were (in theory) to be in a 'no threat of anything at all' area i.e. if Sweden owned all the land bordering on the Baltic sea, would a Swedish LHD going through the Sea be likely to have helicopters on its deck?


Yes it'd be pretty regular; No carrier can actually carry all of its stated complement of planes inside its below decks hangars, so they often use deck parking.
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Postby The Soodean Imperium » Tue Apr 01, 2014 4:00 am

Gallia- wrote:
New Vihenia wrote:
How robust typical ship structure when subjected to 900 Kg of warhead ?



1st wrong.. I use no gigantic anti submarine battlecruiser.

2nd wrong.. My Sonar isn't soviet sonar.

Cut that mother fucking cold war mentality already.. It's very annoying.


1) Unimportant, as the supporting structure of datalinks ensures that it will never be hit in the first place. o:

2) You use Soviet anti-submarine weapons (I'm pretty sure?), welcome to losing. Using any advanced Soviet weapon is a sign of a diminished technology industry and inferior integrated circuit production, though, so S-400 will equally predispose your industry to losing.

Not to be all :cliche: here, but good RPing isn't necessarily about winning or losing - it's about writing the story that accompanies that conflict. Which means that if a given nation's historical canon involves ties to the Eastern Bloc, having a less-than-developed economy, or using a doctrine that rests on quantity rather than quality, Soviet/Russian weapons are a good choice from a story-oriented point of view, even if (as you claim) they are inferior to what NATO has to offer. And in my experience, working within the flaws of your given equipment makes far better RP material than simply boasting about how superior it is.

I agree that there's far too much "ROSSIYA STRONK USE S400 KILL ALL UR WEAK WESTURN PLANES!!!1" - but as far as writing quality goes, that's no different than "NATO STRONK USE PATRIOT MISSILE KILL ALL UR WEAK COMMIE PLANES!!!1". The problem on today's II isn't people overusing one bloc's equipment or another; it's people using any equipment in general and claiming that it's the best in the world and will allow them to crush everything in their path with minimal losses. Hence the obsession with mega-dreadnoughts, ultra-heavy MBTs, and super-soldier spec-ops.

If you think that NATO-based equipment is a better match for your canon, then by all means use it. If you think someone is overstating what their equipment can do, then by all means politely point it out. But please think twice before waving your genitals in people's faces every time you see anything remotely non-Western appear. It's a little disconcerting to watch.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Tue Apr 01, 2014 4:34 am

The Soodean Imperium wrote:
Gallia- wrote:
1) Unimportant, as the supporting structure of datalinks ensures that it will never be hit in the first place. o:

2) You use Soviet anti-submarine weapons (I'm pretty sure?), welcome to losing. Using any advanced Soviet weapon is a sign of a diminished technology industry and inferior integrated circuit production, though, so S-400 will equally predispose your industry to losing.

Not to be all :cliche: here, but good RPing isn't necessarily about winning or losing - it's about writing the story that accompanies that conflict. Which means that if a given nation's historical canon involves ties to the Eastern Bloc, having a less-than-developed economy, or using a doctrine that rests on quantity rather than quality, Soviet/Russian weapons are a good choice from a story-oriented point of view, even if (as you claim) they are inferior to what NATO has to offer. And in my experience, working within the flaws of your given equipment makes far better RP material than simply boasting about how superior it is.

I agree that there's far too much "ROSSIYA STRONK USE S400 KILL ALL UR WEAK WESTURN PLANES!!!1" - but as far as writing quality goes, that's no different than "NATO STRONK USE PATRIOT MISSILE KILL ALL UR WEAK COMMIE PLANES!!!1". The problem on today's II isn't people overusing one bloc's equipment or another; it's people using any equipment in general and claiming that it's the best in the world and will allow them to crush everything in their path with minimal losses. Hence the obsession with mega-dreadnoughts, ultra-heavy MBTs, and super-soldier spec-ops.

If you think that NATO-based equipment is a better match for your canon, then by all means use it. If you think someone is overstating what their equipment can do, then by all means politely point it out. But please think twice before waving your genitals in people's faces every time you see anything remotely non-Western appear. It's a little disconcerting to watch.

Didn't you know waving his superior genitals in our unworthy faces is Galla/Kattsun's job? I'm still trying to figure out if Kattsun doesn't hate any other thing than the MBT-70.

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Postby Macedonian Grand Empire » Tue Apr 01, 2014 6:16 am

Kouralia wrote:
-The Unified Earth Governments- wrote:
How good are you at art in general, at this rate I'm willing to sell myself for some help.

It depends on what type of help, and what you mean by 'good'.

Also, would it be regular for an LHD under way to have helicopters on its deck even if it were (in theory) to be in a 'no threat of anything at all' area i.e. if Sweden owned all the land bordering on the Baltic sea, would a Swedish LHD going through the Sea be likely to have helicopters on its deck?

Unless there is storm there are always helicopters on deck and planes on carriers. But that is in RL. I would personally still keep some on deck in case of an unforeseen emergency
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