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Kalmarium
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Postby Kalmarium » Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:21 am

Benomia wrote:If we're just doing SW vs. (the other thing, I already forgot), the Eclipse and Eclipse II aren't even close to the best thing in our arsenal. There's the Corsair, which can literally rip the cores out of stars and put them somewhere else; the Eye of Palpatine, which can destroy planets yet is indistinguishable from a normal moon; and of course the World Devastators, which could eat resources off a planet and were literally indestructible. Not to mention non-warship weapons such as the Thought Bomb which could kill trillions of people in less than a second, the Mass Shadow Generator which can create black holes, and of course the Galaxy Gun...which is a gun...that can attack galaxies...with very explosive nuclear devices.

The Galaxy Gun was designed to take out planets, not galaxies.
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Postby Benomia » Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:23 am

Kalmarium wrote:
Benomia wrote:If we're just doing SW vs. (the other thing, I already forgot), the Eclipse and Eclipse II aren't even close to the best thing in our arsenal. There's the Corsair, which can literally rip the cores out of stars and put them somewhere else; the Eye of Palpatine, which can destroy planets yet is indistinguishable from a normal moon; and of course the World Devastators, which could eat resources off a planet and were literally indestructible. Not to mention non-warship weapons such as the Thought Bomb which could kill trillions of people in less than a second, the Mass Shadow Generator which can create black holes, and of course the Galaxy Gun...which is a gun...that can attack galaxies...with very explosive nuclear devices.

The Galaxy Gun was designed to take out planets, not galaxies.

Yes. Just like rifles were designed to take out people, not armies.
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Postby New Zepuha » Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:27 am

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The Eclipse-class has a cannon strong enough to destroy an entire planet in one burst. It also has Heavy laser cannons (550)[3]
500 Turbolasers(each powerful enough to break basic shielding and cause some major damage), 75 Ion cannons (each of which can permanently disable all electric devices, including things such as life support), 100 Tractor beam projectors, and 10 Gravity well projectors (each of which can destroy any single object, regardless of size, shape, or other characteristics). In addition to that massive armament, each one carries 800 Interceptors, 996 bombers, 100 All-terrain Armored Transport walkers, and 5 prefabricated garrison bases, as well as having a crew of over 4,200 gunners and over 700,000 crew members.[/quote]
So what you say effectively is that if the Imperium with its mass quantities of smaller ships able to avoid being hit and an actual variety of sized ships could swarm this behemoth and if it is destroyed you just lost 704,200 valuable forces whereas the amount of men projected to destroy that from the Imperium side is probably much less. Hey it's big enough, we find a way to drop a Titan on that thing and you're done. though the Titan would be lost in the eventual explosion 1,500 men is suffcient numbers to sacrifice. Thus saying the Empire also gave up the clone army and that big of a loss would be crippling to the navy.

Nothing is indestructible my friend. The rifle quote, completely unrelated and inane as a response. Creating a blackhole? Really that's not even practical you run the risk of destroying everything you built or yourself. You don't know if the event horizon will keep expanding, you are asking for hellfire there. The Imperium doesn't bother with destroying planets because we are trying to actually get a use from them! What's the point in raping a planet for it's resources when you could get more if you just subjugate it. There lies the issue of ground troops in which I suggest we move to our own thread.

Can we perhaps take the debate to an F7 thread please I don't wanna spam up this thread.
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Postby Bajireyn » Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:29 am

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Postby The Orson Empire » Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:34 am

Name: Jupiter-class Destroyer

Can function as: Destroyer, Capital ship, Transport, and Frigate

Picture:
Image

Year introduced: 2098

Length: 2.5 miles

Maximum cruising speed: 100,150 Miles per hour

Engines: 3 anti-matter engines

Default Hyperdrive: CLASS II

Default Hyperdrive range: 20,000 light years

Armament:
50 plasma cannons
20 Laser cannons
4 ion cannons
10 nuclear missile launchers
Tractor beam
Shields: 1 CLASS V Advanced Deflector Shield

Maximum Crew:
45,000

Cargo Capacity:
75,000 tons- 8 years

Carries:
-Ground soldiers, Robot soldiers, Android soldiers, Marines, and Commandos
-S1 Fighters, S2 bombers, S3 Interceptors, and S4 Drone Levinthian Fighters
-Aerospace Assault Transports
-Aerospace Assault Dropships
-Type I Mech Suits
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Postby New Zepuha » Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:40 am

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Postby Xekliv » Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:13 pm

Democratic Koyro wrote:
Grand Britannia wrote:
(Image)

DDG-55 Langley-Class Guided Missile Destroyer

Class Overview


Preceded ByDefender-Class Destroyer

Cost1,721 Million S$

Planned2,000

Completed1,760

Active1,067
General Characteristics



TypeMultipurpose Destroyer

Displacement19,000 t

Length602 feet

Beam83.2 feet

Draft27.2 feet

Propulsion2 x nuclear powered steam turbines
and emergency methane hydrate engines

Speed35 knots

Compliment140

Sensors andAN/SPY-5 Multi function radar
Processing(X-band, active electronically scanned array)
AN/SQR-32 Sonar
AN/SQQ-12 LAMPS

ElectronicAN/SLQ-9 Anti-Torpedo
WarfareAN/SLQ-17 Electronic Warfare
and DecoysMK 136 CHAFF

Armament
  • Missiles
    • MK 231 150 Cell VLS
    • RIM-143 Air Cutter(AA)
    • BGM-210 Excalibur
    • BGM-272 Escalayer
    • RIM-310 AEGIS
    • RUM-72 ASROC
  • Guns
    • 1 x 155mm EML w/ 900 rounds
    • 2 x Skyguard FEL
    • 4 x 35mm Rilenko AA guns
    • 4 x MK312 RAM
  • Torpedoes
    • 2 x MK 70 triple torpedo tubes

Aircraft
Carried
  • DDG-55
    • 2 x SH-34
    • 1 x HRQ-6


2'000 Destroyers? :shock:

and i thought our 1'400 ship Navy was huge


You call that big? The Xektus Class Titan is 8000 miles long. AKA the diameter of the planet Earth.

The Orson Empire wrote:Name: Jupiter-class Destroyer

Can function as: Destroyer, Capital ship, Transport, and Frigate

Picture:
(Image)

Year introduced: 2098

Length: 2.5 miles

Maximum cruising speed: 100,150 Miles per hour

Engines: 3 anti-matter engines

Default Hyperdrive: CLASS II

Default Hyperdrive range: 20,000 light years

Armament:
50 plasma cannons
20 Laser cannons
4 ion cannons
10 nuclear missile launchers
Tractor beam
Shields: 1 CLASS V Advanced Deflector Shield

Maximum Crew:
45,000

Cargo Capacity:
75,000 tons- 8 years

Carries:
-Ground soldiers, Robot soldiers, Android soldiers, Marines, and Commandos
-S1 Fighters, S2 bombers, S3 Interceptors, and S4 Drone Levinthian Fighters
-Aerospace Assault Transports
-Aerospace Assault Dropships
-Type I Mech Suits
-Type II Mech Walkers
-Air Speeders
-A1000 Hover Tanks, A2000 Storm Tanks, and A3000 Ground Carriers
-Boarding Pods


What's that image from?
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Grand Britannia
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Postby Grand Britannia » Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:16 pm

Xekliv wrote:
Democratic Koyro wrote:
2'000 Destroyers? :shock:

and i thought our 1'400 ship Navy was huge


You call that big? The Xektus Class titan is as long as the diameter of the planet Earth.

The Orson Empire wrote:Name: Jupiter-class Destroyer

Can function as: Destroyer, Capital ship, Transport, and Frigate

Picture:
(Image)

Year introduced: 2098

Length: 2.5 miles

Maximum cruising speed: 100,150 Miles per hour

Engines: 3 anti-matter engines

Default Hyperdrive: CLASS II

Default Hyperdrive range: 20,000 light years

Armament:
50 plasma cannons
20 Laser cannons
4 ion cannons
10 nuclear missile launchers
Tractor beam
Shields: 1 CLASS V Advanced Deflector Shield

Maximum Crew:
45,000

Cargo Capacity:
75,000 tons- 8 years

Carries:
-Ground soldiers, Robot soldiers, Android soldiers, Marines, and Commandos
-S1 Fighters, S2 bombers, S3 Interceptors, and S4 Drone Levinthian Fighters
-Aerospace Assault Transports
-Aerospace Assault Dropships
-Type I Mech Suits
-Type II Mech Walkers
-Air Speeders
-A1000 Hover Tanks, A2000 Storm Tanks, and A3000 Ground Carriers
-Boarding Pods


What's that image from?


Those are ship numbers, actually.
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Kalmarium
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Postby Kalmarium » Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:19 pm

Xekliv wrote:
Democratic Koyro wrote:
2'000 Destroyers? :shock:

and i thought our 1'400 ship Navy was huge


You call that big? The Xektus Class Titan is 8000 miles long. AKA the diameter of the planet Earth.


Staeus-class Star Dreadnaughts are the size of 1/3 of Jupiter's diameter...
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Postby New Nassrau » Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:29 pm

Royala Class Guided Missile Destroyer
-Using stealth characteristics, this is becoming the most used ship in the navy. The many VLS cells help too

Brighton Class ASW and AA Frigate
-The ship thats also up there is a mixed Anti-Submarine and Anti-Air Frigate
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Postby Delator » Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:32 pm

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The Hammerhead class submarine. Nuclear powered, and capable of a wide variety of missions to support our combat doctrine.
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Postby The Corparation » Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:34 pm

Kalmarium wrote:
Xekliv wrote:
You call that big? The Xektus Class Titan is 8000 miles long. AKA the diameter of the planet Earth.


Staeus-class Star Dreadnaughts are the size of 1/3 of Jupiter's diameter...

Anyone have that fictional report from the bridge of that one lolhuge star wars ship someone drew? Because I honestly think that's the best judge of what would actually happen in ships that large.
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Postby Kalmarium » Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:37 pm

The Corparation wrote:
Kalmarium wrote:
Staeus-class Star Dreadnaughts are the size of 1/3 of Jupiter's diameter...

Anyone have that fictional report from the bridge of that one lolhuge star wars ship someone drew? Because I honestly think that's the best judge of what would actually happen in ships that large.

I image they would produce their own gravitational fields, if given enough mass. I was just trying to keep up Xekliv :P
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Postby Hockenberg » Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:47 pm

We have no warships.
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Postby Cascavia » Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:52 pm

Hockenberg wrote:We have no warships.

Not even some armed boats for patrolling rivers?

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Grand Britannia
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Postby Grand Britannia » Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:53 pm

Hockenberg wrote:We have no warships.


Excellent.
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Postby Hockenberg » Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:53 pm

Cascavia wrote:
Hockenberg wrote:We have no warships.

Not even some armed boats for patrolling rivers?
We have no military :)
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Postby The Noble Wolf » Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:54 pm

Hockenberg wrote:We have no warships.

Not even rowboats

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Xekliv
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Postby Xekliv » Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:57 pm

Grand Britannia wrote:
Xekliv wrote:
You call that big? The Xektus Class titan is as long as the diameter of the planet Earth.



What's that image from?


Those are ship numbers, actually.


I mean the image of the ship, smartass.
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Postby Cascavia » Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:59 pm

Hockenberg wrote:We have no military :)

You do realize that not having a military is a bad idea on NationStates.
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Postby Grand Britannia » Sun Jan 06, 2013 3:00 pm

Xekliv wrote:
Grand Britannia wrote:
Those are ship numbers, actually.


I mean the image of the ship, smartass.


And I wasn't talking about that ship. I was speaking about "size" of my ship being how many are to be completed.
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Postby The Noble Wolf » Sun Jan 06, 2013 3:00 pm

Cascavia wrote:
Hockenberg wrote:We have no military :)

You do realize that not having a military is a bad idea on NationStates.

depends on what region you are in

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Postby Hockenberg » Sun Jan 06, 2013 3:01 pm

Cascavia wrote:
Hockenberg wrote:We have no military :)
You do realize that not having a military is a bad idea on NationStates.
Yeah but military spending is unconstituional here so what are you gonna do :roll:
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Postby New Nassrau » Sun Jan 06, 2013 3:03 pm

Hockenberg wrote:
Cascavia wrote:You do realize that not having a military is a bad idea on NationStates.
Yeah but military spending is unconstituional here so what are you gonna do :roll:

You know it doesn't have to be unconstitutional... besides, someone's bound to attack you
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