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Who should be the OP of the next Main Military Weapons thread

Aqizithiuda
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Corda
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Kouralia
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Postby Aqizithiuda » Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:45 pm

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Around that time period, yes. I was thinking of 2050 A.D.

2050...
FN FNACA3
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BEARA2 Elite
ARX-180


Sidearms? Don't know what's up and coming...


That was sarcasm, right?
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Postby Purpelia » Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:46 pm

Anyone have any opinions on my machine gun concept? I wrote a lengthy description just near the top of the last page.
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Postby Kouralia » Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:47 pm

Aqizithiuda wrote:
Benomia wrote:2050...
FN FNACA3
HK 416A7
Bushmaster ACR (yeah, that thing's going to be around forever)
BEARA2 Elite
ARX-180


Sidearms? Don't know what's up and coming...


That was sarcasm, right?

It must be.

I doubt anyone here can make any attempt to predict what the hot 'n new fire-arms will be in the '50s.
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Postby The Zeonic States » Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:50 pm

Purpelia wrote:
Aqizithiuda wrote:
I think Purp's MG is more like an anti-tank cannon than GMG.

Indeed. It's quite literally a maxim gun firing solid 2cm bullets. No HE or anything like that. Just a really powerfully machine gun.

The idea of my designers at the time was that it would be mounted on pillboxes and such and used to gun down enemy infantry at ranges beyond what their rifles could reach or something zany like that. Now obviously that is not exactly smart given the thinking of the era (or at all). And my army of course thinks the inventor is quite mad and rejects it. But the inventors wife is related to Lord Windir who is related to the Arch Duke and Lord of the province of Windir so as usual some arm twisting occurs and the army eventually adopts this weapon. So it sits in army stockpiles for about a decade in very small numbers until WW1 starts up. Than it keeps sitting in stockpiles because again it is just a dumb idea until one day tanks show up. Suddenly the army needs a weapon, any weapon that can kill these landships and as it happens someone gets the idea to take out the old 2cm machine guns out of stock. And the rest is history.

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total diameter of the barrel; And you can look for yourself; they had a speicialized vickers back before they reconverted it to Aircooled that had that thick of a barrel; People are surprised by it now but they need to relax apart from multiple barrels or water cooling thicker metal on the interior of the barrel meant more rounds could be fired before it had to be cooled and stopped being used.

The brits had the right idea even if it had the gun a bit heavier.

Thanks for the data. I shall look into it immediately.


I hope Your whole machine gun thingie works out; Hope my advice about Barrel thickness helped a bit.
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Postby Immoren » Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:52 pm

Kouralia wrote:
Aqizithiuda wrote:
That was sarcasm, right?

It must be.

I doubt anyone here can make any attempt to predict what the hot 'n new fire-arms will be in the '50s.


No. But whatever RL FDF is going to use is probably something that is currently in market. :P
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Postby Coltarin » Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:52 pm

Benomia wrote:
Night Elven Empire wrote:
Around that time period, yes. I was thinking of 2050 A.D.

2050...

FN FNACA3

Wrong. By 2050 bullpups will be most predominate in Western militaries.
HK 416A7

No, this is a fad.
Bushmaster ACR (yeah, that thing's going to be around forever)

There are too many issues with quality control.
BEARA2 Elite

This will be gone.
ARX-160

Not practical, practically obsolete before it's even been put into full production.


Sidearms? Don't know what's up and coming...

The KARD which is the pistol he posted earlier, (Which is fine)
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Postby Aqizithiuda » Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:55 pm

Purpelia wrote:Anyone have any opinions on my machine gun concept? I wrote a lengthy description just near the top of the last page.


I imagine there would be teething problems with lolbarrelwear, part breakage, etc, but those issues would be solved by the end of the war.
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Postby Immoren » Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:56 pm

Coltarin wrote:
ARX-160

Not practical, practically obsolete before it's even been put into full production.


?
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Postby Yes Im Biop » Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:56 pm

Kouralia wrote:
Aqizithiuda wrote:
That was sarcasm, right?

It must be.

I doubt anyone here can make any attempt to predict what the hot 'n new fire-arms will be in the '50s.

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Postby Immoren » Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:58 pm

Yes Im Biop wrote:
Kouralia wrote:It must be.

I doubt anyone here can make any attempt to predict what the hot 'n new fire-arms will be in the '50s.

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Postby Kouralia » Mon Dec 17, 2012 3:01 pm

Yes Im Biop wrote:
Kouralia wrote:It must be.

I doubt anyone here can make any attempt to predict what the hot 'n new fire-arms will be in the '50s.

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Postby Benomia » Mon Dec 17, 2012 3:01 pm

AK-150!

Wrong. By 2050 bullpups will be most predominate in Western militaries.


Perhaps not. The US doesn't seem to be adopting a bullpup anytime soon.

HK 416A7


No, this is a fad.

Bushmaster ACR (yeah, that thing's going to be around forever)


There are too many issues with quality control.


I agree.

BEARA2 Elite


This will be gone.


Then the BEARA3.

ARX-160


Not practical, practically obsolete before it's even been put into full production.


You purposefully edited my post. I didn't mean the 160.
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Postby Giroad » Mon Dec 17, 2012 3:03 pm

Benomia wrote:
Giroad wrote:Can't have ak47?

Ak 48 then.

There is no such thing as the AK-48.


There is now bub.

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Postby Kouralia » Mon Dec 17, 2012 3:04 pm

Benomia wrote:AK-150!

Wrong. By 2050 bullpups will be most predominate in Western militaries.


Perhaps not. The US doesn't seem to be adopting a bullpup anytime soon.

The British military didn't seem to be preparing to adopt a bull-pup rifle anytime soon in 1950.

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Benomia wrote:There is no such thing as the AK-48.


There is now bub.

;)
Indeed. His military might just designate their rifle the AK-48. I mean, many things like ammo used in the Kouralian tanks are the RL counterparts with one number increased to the end.
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Postby Benomia » Mon Dec 17, 2012 3:06 pm

Kouralia wrote:
Benomia wrote:AK-150!



Perhaps not. The US doesn't seem to be adopting a bullpup anytime soon.

The British military didn't seem to be preparing to adopt a bull-pup rifle anytime soon in 1950.

Have they?
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Postby Crookfur » Mon Dec 17, 2012 3:06 pm

Purpelia wrote:
The Zeonic States wrote:Hrm; Well what's the cartridge whats the model of machine gun is it comparable to another machine gun being used by the country? If so what is the average thickness of it's barrel? if it is not comparable i would go probably do anything from two inches to four thick maybe; Some older machine gun's were thicker then that. Heck the Vickers orginally had like a one inch thick barrel and after a half billion issues with it they swapped it for a three.

I am looking for the cartridge now. Something suitably 1900's. But no there is no comparable weapon in my army other than the regular maxim in 7.5 Swiss. And that is hardly comparable.

Also 3 inches thick? That is like a 75mm thick wall??? Or was that 75mm total diameter?


easiest answer would be to just make a guesimate from one one of the pictures of the becker gun or possibly the becker-semag aircraft gun (the similar semag infantry gun was a bigger beast) The becker is according to tony williams' rapid fire 137mm long and i'm not sure if the becker and becker-semag guns differed much in terms fo length although the semag does look a fair bit longer.

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Postby Alowwvia » Mon Dec 17, 2012 3:06 pm

The most recognizable weapon in our armed forces is the F90A1 Assault Rifle.

An Alowwvian take on the classic F90 Styer AUG, and F90A1 is slated to be the primary assault arm of the Alowwvian military for at least twenty-five years.
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Mon Dec 17, 2012 3:07 pm

Kouralia wrote:
Benomia wrote:AK-150!



Perhaps not. The US doesn't seem to be adopting a bullpup anytime soon.

The British military didn't seem to be preparing to adopt a bull-pup rifle anytime soon in 1950.

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Indeed. His military might just designate their rifle the AK-48. I mean, many things like ammo used in the Kouralian tanks are the RL counterparts with one number increased to the end.
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Postby Kouralia » Mon Dec 17, 2012 3:08 pm

Benomia wrote:
Kouralia wrote:The British military didn't seem to be preparing to adopt a bull-pup rifle anytime soon in 1950.

Have they?

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Postby Veceria » Mon Dec 17, 2012 3:08 pm

Alowwvia wrote:The most recognizable weapon in our armed forces is the F90A1 Assault Rifle.

An Alowwvian take on the classic F90 Styer AUG, and F90A1 is slated to be the primary assault arm of the Alowwvian military for at least twenty-five years.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Mon Dec 17, 2012 3:09 pm

Veceria wrote:
Alowwvia wrote:The most recognizable weapon in our armed forces is the F90A1 Assault Rifle.

An Alowwvian take on the classic F90 Styer AUG, and F90A1 is slated to be the primary assault arm of the Alowwvian military for at least twenty-five years.

I-It's beautiful ... O.O

Can I orgasm now? <.< PMG should totally get this...
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Postby Imperial isa » Mon Dec 17, 2012 3:10 pm

why do i think the KARD been used in another game before?
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Postby The Zeonic States » Mon Dec 17, 2012 3:10 pm

Veceria wrote:
Alowwvia wrote:The most recognizable weapon in our armed forces is the F90A1 Assault Rifle.

An Alowwvian take on the classic F90 Styer AUG, and F90A1 is slated to be the primary assault arm of the Alowwvian military for at least twenty-five years.

I-It's beautiful ... O.O


<_< It's alright i guess

Fans of the Aug will obviously love it; I like the design of the Aug having shot one i will admit it's probably the smoothest firing assault rifle i have ever shot.
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Postby Yes Im Biop » Mon Dec 17, 2012 3:11 pm

Kouralia wrote:
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Postby Veceria » Mon Dec 17, 2012 3:11 pm

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Veceria wrote:I-It's beautiful ... O.O

Can I orgasm now? <.< PMG should totally get this...

You don't need PMG ... it's real ...
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