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Who should be the OP of the next Main Military Weapons thread

Aqizithiuda
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Corda
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Kouralia
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Puzikas
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Night Elven Empire
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Postby Night Elven Empire » Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:14 pm

Puzikas wrote:
Night Elven Empire wrote:
(How ironic. It's from Black Ops 2.)


And in there is the issue.
Black Ops 2 is a mockery of firearms, and I have never seen a more backwards assumtion of firearms. As are most Call of Dutys.

Please, do not use weapons fron the Call of Duty series. We prefer to see people who genuinely have no idea what they are talking about make an effort so we can HELP them, rather than simply take an idea from another person and use it. Such as the Desert eagle guy we felt with a few days ago. We are here to help you make your small arms ideal for a real worl situation. In a way.


Well, I did find a better looking design that I personally like. It doesn't help I'm a rookie when it comes to firearms.
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Postby Benomia » Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:15 pm

Night Elven Empire wrote:
Benomia wrote:I'm just saying that it looks like something I drew. People around here will be able to tell you that that makes it inherently bad.


(How ironic. It's from Black Ops 2.)

Got gun from call of duty=also inherently bad. The people here will be able to give you a very long lecture about how the AK-47 isn't actually an AK-47 and a whole other shit.
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Postby Night Elven Empire » Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:15 pm

Benomia wrote:
Night Elven Empire wrote:
(How ironic. It's from Black Ops 2.)

Got gun from call of duty=also inherently bad. The people here will be able to give you a very long lecture about how the AK-47 isn't actually an AK-47 and a whole other shit.


As I said, I changed it. Am I forgiven now?
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Postby Benomia » Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:16 pm

Night Elven Empire wrote:...standard issue tends to be the Taver Mark III Semiautomatic Rifle due to its versatility and precision:

(Image)

That's a FAMAS.
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Ragnarum wrote:Ragnarum transforms into a giant godzilla like creature, then walks into the sunset while emotional music plays and Morgan Freeman narrates.
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Postby Night Elven Empire » Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:17 pm

Benomia wrote:
Night Elven Empire wrote:...standard issue tends to be the Taver Mark III Semiautomatic Rifle due to its versatility and precision:

(Image)

That's a FAMAS.


I can fix that too, then.

Next time, I'm asking first.
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Postby Immoren » Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:19 pm

I need to finish that assault grenade launcher at some point. I also need to draw 81mm knee mortar, autocannon SAW and RCL to go with rest when I can be bothered. :P
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Postby Purpelia » Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:22 pm

Aqizithiuda wrote:
Samozaryadnyastan wrote:I'm a little confused by Zeonic's statement, as various battle-rifle sized weapons have chambers around an inch in diameter, with bull barrels to match. The FAL is circa 28mm, I believe.
Since early 20mm is fairly analogous to GMG I believe, you might be looking at GMG-thickness barrels.


I think Purp's MG is more like an anti-tank cannon than GMG.

Indeed. It's quite literally a maxim gun firing solid 2cm bullets. No HE or anything like that. Just a really powerfully machine gun.

The idea of my designers at the time was that it would be mounted on pillboxes and such and used to gun down enemy infantry at ranges beyond what their rifles could reach or something zany like that. Now obviously that is not exactly smart given the thinking of the era (or at all). And my army of course thinks the inventor is quite mad and rejects it. But the inventors wife is related to Lord Windir who is related to the Arch Duke and Lord of the province of Windir so as usual some arm twisting occurs and the army eventually adopts this weapon. So it sits in army stockpiles for about a decade in very small numbers until WW1 starts up. Than it keeps sitting in stockpiles because again it is just a dumb idea until one day tanks show up. Suddenly the army needs a weapon, any weapon that can kill these landships and as it happens someone gets the idea to take out the old 2cm machine guns out of stock. And the rest is history.

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Purpelia wrote:I am looking for the cartridge now. Something suitably 1900's. But no there is no comparable weapon in my army other than the regular maxim in 7.5 Swiss. And that is hardly comparable.

Also 3 inches thick? That is like a 75mm thick wall??? Or was that 75mm total diameter?


total diameter of the barrel; And you can look for yourself; they had a speicialized vickers back before they reconverted it to Aircooled that had that thick of a barrel; People are surprised by it now but they need to relax apart from multiple barrels or water cooling thicker metal on the interior of the barrel meant more rounds could be fired before it had to be cooled and stopped being used.

The brits had the right idea even if it had the gun a bit heavier.

Thanks for the data. I shall look into it immediately.
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The above post contains hyperbole, metaphoric language, embellishment and exaggeration. It may also include badly translated figures of speech and misused idioms. Analyze accordingly.

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Benomia
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Postby Benomia » Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:23 pm

Night Elven Empire wrote:
Benomia wrote:That's a FAMAS.


I can fix that too, then.

Next time, I'm asking first.

Try to use guns that meet these two criteria:
-Actually exist
-Don't suck

Neither of the weapons you posted meet both of those. If you want a bullpup semi-auto rifle, find a semi-automatic AUG. If you want a .45 ACP handgun, use either the M1911A1 or the HK USP.
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Ragnarum wrote:Ragnarum transforms into a giant godzilla like creature, then walks into the sunset while emotional music plays and Morgan Freeman narrates.
Kouralia wrote:Everyone hates us: we're MMW. We're like the poster children of Realismfggtry.
Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
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Postby Night Elven Empire » Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:24 pm

Benomia wrote:
Night Elven Empire wrote:
I can fix that too, then.

Next time, I'm asking first.

Try to use guns that meet these two criteria:
-Actually exist
-Don't suck

Neither of the weapons you posted meet both of those. If you want a bullpup semi-auto rifle, find a semi-automatic AUG. If you want a .45 ACP handgun, use either the M1911A1 or the HK USP.


Fair enough. I feel like a complete idiot now.
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Postby Immoren » Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:24 pm

I think someone on this page is trying too hard.
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Postby Aqizithiuda » Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:26 pm

Night Elven Empire wrote:
Benomia wrote:That's a FAMAS.


I can fix that too, then.

Next time, I'm asking first.


It's not a FAMAS but the mag is fully retarded.

What kind of theme are you going with your nation?

Also, ignore Benomia. Fictional guns are fine, so long as some thought has been put into thek.
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Postby Milograd » Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:26 pm

Amastol wrote:Finally got to give my LSW variant some love, now just to go purge all the old layers out of this PDN file so its actually functional.

([url=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/jay3135/guns/th_SABR-LSW136.png]Image)[/url]

Your drawing is very nice as per usual, but a portion of your name tag is covered by the rifle, Mek.
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Postby Night Elven Empire » Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:28 pm

Aqizithiuda wrote:
Night Elven Empire wrote:
I can fix that too, then.

Next time, I'm asking first.


It's not a FAMAS but the mag is fully retarded.

What kind of theme are you going with your nation?

Also, ignore Benomia. Fictional guns are fine, so long as some thought has been put into thek.


My main theme of the country is a semi-futuristic race of Night Elves with remnants of their old magical society that they are abandoning at an increasing rate. In some regards, they're more futuristic, while in others they aren't as advanced yet.

And alright. I try to be a pleaser, so I listened to him.
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Postby Benomia » Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:29 pm

Semi-futuristic?
Like, what year? 2030? 2045?
Remembering games, and daisy chains, and laughs...Got to keep the loonies on the path.
The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:You've obviously never seen the Benomian M16A3s.
Carathon wrote:*Logs in with the name of Troll Alliance and writes a short app with poor grammar and logic.*Somehow genuinely surprised when denied*
Ragnarum wrote:Ragnarum transforms into a giant godzilla like creature, then walks into the sunset while emotional music plays and Morgan Freeman narrates.
Kouralia wrote:Everyone hates us: we're MMW. We're like the poster children of Realismfggtry.
Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
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Postby Night Elven Empire » Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:30 pm

Benomia wrote:Semi-futuristic?
Like, what year? 2030? 2045?


Around that time period, yes. I was thinking of 2050 A.D.
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Postby Amastol » Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:32 pm

Milograd wrote:<snip>

oh is it?
...

It certainly wouldn't be an attempt to hide the fact that I've been fiddling with this since 2011 >.> *cough*
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Postby Aqizithiuda » Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:33 pm

Night Elven Empire wrote:
Benomia wrote:Semi-futuristic?
Like, what year? 2030? 2045?


Around that time period, yes. I was thinking of 2050 A.D.


Okay, then. You're going to be looking at polymer cased telescoped ammunition/caseless telescoped ammunition, airbursting and possibly guided grenades and, probably, either large calibers or flechettes, in order to deal with body armour. The sidearm is probably going to have AP bullets as standard, so either flechettes or 6.5 CBJ APDS rounds.
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Hellraiser-Army wrote:and clearly I am surrounded by idiots who never looked at a blueprint before...


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Postby Night Elven Empire » Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:33 pm

Aqizithiuda wrote:
Night Elven Empire wrote:
Around that time period, yes. I was thinking of 2050 A.D.


Okay, then. You're going to be looking at polymer cased telescoped ammunition/caseless telescoped ammunition, airbursting and possibly guided grenades and, probably, either large calibers or flechettes, in order to deal with body armour. The sidearm is probably going to have AP bullets as standard, so either flechettes or 6.5 CBJ APDS rounds.


What should I do with my original posts the responses? Edit that to meet the requirements or just ask a mod to delete them?
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Postby Immoren » Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:34 pm

Night Elven Empire wrote:
Aqizithiuda wrote:
Okay, then. You're going to be looking at polymer cased telescoped ammunition/caseless telescoped ammunition, airbursting and possibly guided grenades and, probably, either large calibers or flechettes, in order to deal with body armour. The sidearm is probably going to have AP bullets as standard, so either flechettes or 6.5 CBJ APDS rounds.


What should I do with my original posts the responses? Edit that to meet the requirements or just ask a mod to delete them?


Leave them to be and they'll just be forgotten. :P
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Postby Night Elven Empire » Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:35 pm

Immoren wrote:
Night Elven Empire wrote:
What should I do with my original posts the responses? Edit that to meet the requirements or just ask a mod to delete them?


Leave them to be and they'll just be forgotten. :P


I thank you for your forgiveness. I don't get the luxury of roleplaying too often due to college.
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Postby Benomia » Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:36 pm

Night Elven Empire wrote:
Benomia wrote:Semi-futuristic?
Like, what year? 2030? 2045?


Around that time period, yes. I was thinking of 2050 A.D.

2050...
FN FNACA3
HK 416A7
Bushmaster ACR (yeah, that thing's going to be around forever)
BEARA2 Elite
ARX-180


Sidearms? Don't know what's up and coming...
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Postby Immoren » Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:38 pm

Night Elven Empire wrote:
Immoren wrote:
Leave them to be and they'll just be forgotten. :P


I thank you for your forgiveness. I don't get the luxury of roleplaying too often due to college.


I haven't roleplayed for months on NS side. :P
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discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there

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Postby Night Elven Empire » Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:39 pm

Immoren wrote:
Night Elven Empire wrote:
I thank you for your forgiveness. I don't get the luxury of roleplaying too often due to college.


I haven't roleplayed for months on NS side. :P


Ah. Well, if you can help me with gun ideas so I don't sound like a damn idiot, just PM me.
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Postby Immoren » Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:43 pm

Night Elven Empire wrote:
Immoren wrote:
I haven't roleplayed for months on NS side. :P


Ah. Well, if you can help me with gun ideas so I don't sound like a damn idiot, just PM me.


This is OOC thread. I can help here if I can. :P
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discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there

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Postby Night Elven Empire » Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:43 pm

Immoren wrote:
Night Elven Empire wrote:
Ah. Well, if you can help me with gun ideas so I don't sound like a damn idiot, just PM me.


This is OOC thread. I can help here if I can. :P


Here I am thinking it was IC, silly me. So, fictional guns are acceptable if they're realistic. I'm going to learn from my mistakes and think this through.
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