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Who should be the OP of the next Main Military Weapons thread

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Postby Purpelia » Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:29 pm

My Universal Carrier model has 54 layers... How does that count?
Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



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Postby The Zeonic States » Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:32 pm

Purpelia wrote:
The Zeonic States wrote:
Well the whole point of aircooling was to cut down on how thick the barrels needed to be yeah?

No idea. All I wanted to say by mentioning that is that the gun does not have a water cooling system. I did not mean to imply anything other than that.

Benomia wrote:2 meters.

Say what?


Hrm; Well what's the cartridge whats the model of machine gun is it comparable to another machine gun being used by the country? If so what is the average thickness of it's barrel? if it is not comparable i would go probably do anything from two inches to four thick maybe; Some older machine gun's were thicker then that. Heck the Vickers orginally had like a one inch thick barrel and after a half billion issues with it they swapped it for a three.
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Postby Benomia » Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:33 pm

Purpelia wrote:Say what?


You're right.

Five meters.
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Postby The Zeonic States » Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:35 pm

Benomia wrote:
Purpelia wrote:Say what?


You're right.

Five meters.


._. That's thicker then i am tall
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Postby Purpelia » Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:38 pm

The Zeonic States wrote:Hrm; Well what's the cartridge whats the model of machine gun is it comparable to another machine gun being used by the country? If so what is the average thickness of it's barrel? if it is not comparable i would go probably do anything from two inches to four thick maybe; Some older machine gun's were thicker then that. Heck the Vickers orginally had like a one inch thick barrel and after a half billion issues with it they swapped it for a three.

I am looking for the cartridge now. Something suitably 1900's. But no there is no comparable weapon in my army other than the regular maxim in 7.5 Swiss. And that is hardly comparable.

Also 3 inches thick? That is like a 75mm thick wall??? Or was that 75mm total diameter?
Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



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Postby San-Silvacian » Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:39 pm

The Zeonic States wrote:
Benomia wrote:
You're right.

Five meters.


._. That's thicker then i am tall


Thats wat she said.
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Benomia
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Postby Benomia » Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:43 pm

The Zeonic States wrote:
Benomia wrote:
You're right.

Five meters.


._. That's thicker then i am tall

Oh! I thought you said LONG.

I'd say about 23-25mm.
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:43 pm

Purpelia wrote:
The Zeonic States wrote:Hrm; Well what's the cartridge whats the model of machine gun is it comparable to another machine gun being used by the country? If so what is the average thickness of it's barrel? if it is not comparable i would go probably do anything from two inches to four thick maybe; Some older machine gun's were thicker then that. Heck the Vickers orginally had like a one inch thick barrel and after a half billion issues with it they swapped it for a three.

I am looking for the cartridge now. Something suitably 1900's. But no there is no comparable weapon in my army other than the regular maxim in 7.5 Swiss. And that is hardly comparable.

Also 3 inches thick? That is like a 75mm thick wall??? Or was that 75mm total diameter?

I'm a little confused by Zeonic's statement, as various battle-rifle sized weapons have chambers around an inch in diameter, with bull barrels to match. The FAL is circa 28mm, I believe.
Since early 20mm is fairly analogous to GMG I believe, you might be looking at GMG-thickness barrels.
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Postby Aqizithiuda » Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:45 pm

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:
Purpelia wrote:I am looking for the cartridge now. Something suitably 1900's. But no there is no comparable weapon in my army other than the regular maxim in 7.5 Swiss. And that is hardly comparable.

Also 3 inches thick? That is like a 75mm thick wall??? Or was that 75mm total diameter?

I'm a little confused by Zeonic's statement, as various battle-rifle sized weapons have chambers around an inch in diameter, with bull barrels to match. The FAL is circa 28mm, I believe.
Since early 20mm is fairly analogous to GMG I believe, you might be looking at GMG-thickness barrels.


I think Purp's MG is more like an anti-tank cannon than GMG.
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:47 pm

I mean analogous in terms of cartridge power.
High velocity 20mm didn't exist until closer to WWII, did it?
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Postby The Zeonic States » Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:48 pm

Purpelia wrote:
The Zeonic States wrote:Hrm; Well what's the cartridge whats the model of machine gun is it comparable to another machine gun being used by the country? If so what is the average thickness of it's barrel? if it is not comparable i would go probably do anything from two inches to four thick maybe; Some older machine gun's were thicker then that. Heck the Vickers orginally had like a one inch thick barrel and after a half billion issues with it they swapped it for a three.

I am looking for the cartridge now. Something suitably 1900's. But no there is no comparable weapon in my army other than the regular maxim in 7.5 Swiss. And that is hardly comparable.

Also 3 inches thick? That is like a 75mm thick wall??? Or was that 75mm total diameter?


total diameter of the barrel; And you can look for yourself; they had a speicialized vickers back before they reconverted it to Aircooled that had that thick of a barrel; People are surprised by it now but they need to relax apart from multiple barrels or water cooling thicker metal on the interior of the barrel meant more rounds could be fired before it had to be cooled and stopped being used.

The brits had the right idea even if it had the gun a bit heavier.
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Postby Immoren » Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:55 pm

Which autocannon is best starting for turning into "MG" for creatures which can wield M2 like human wields carbine assault rifle and AGL like human wields XM29.
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Postby Night Elven Empire » Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:57 pm

Since the majority of Night Elves prefer science and technology over magic in these past centuries, we use human weaponry far more often. When it comes to the most preferred firearm of our ground troops, standard issue tends to be the Taver Model FAMAS:

Image

The second most popular weapon used by ground troops is the Dreth Model CRP - 35, a pistol used in close quarters:

Image
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Postby Benomia » Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:59 pm

Night Elven Empire wrote:Since the majority of Night Elves prefer science and technology over magic in these past centuries, we use human weaponry far more often. When it comes to the most preferred firearm of our ground troops, standard issue tends to be the Taver Mark III Semiautomatic Rifle due to its versatility and precision:

(Image)

The second most popular weapon used by ground troops is the Dreth Model KAP-40, a pistol used in close quarters:

(Image)

*screams*
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Postby Night Elven Empire » Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:00 pm

Benomia wrote:
Night Elven Empire wrote:Since the majority of Night Elves prefer science and technology over magic in these past centuries, we use human weaponry far more often. When it comes to the most preferred firearm of our ground troops, standard issue tends to be the Taver Mark III Semiautomatic Rifle due to its versatility and precision:

(Image)

The second most popular weapon used by ground troops is the Dreth Model KAP-40, a pistol used in close quarters:

(Image)

*screams*


*has ear plugs in* What?
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Postby Benomia » Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:00 pm

Night Elven Empire wrote:
Benomia wrote:*screams*


*has ear plugs in* What?

If you want a .45 ACP handgun, why don't you just use an M1911A1 in stead of that monstrosity ?
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Postby Night Elven Empire » Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:02 pm

Benomia wrote:
Night Elven Empire wrote:
*has ear plugs in* What?

If you want a .45 ACP handgun, why don't you just use an M1911A1 in stead of that monstrosity ?


The KAP-40 has worked very well for our military in the past. We've also used the M1911A1 rather frequently too, but not as often.
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Postby Aqizithiuda » Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:03 pm

Immoren wrote:Which autocannon is best starting for turning into "MG" for creatures which can wield M2 like human wields carbine assault rifle and AGL like human wields XM29.


The Colt CR-26, and that 70mm AGL developed for the Navy.
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Postby Benomia » Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:05 pm

Night Elven Empire wrote:
Benomia wrote:If you want a .45 ACP handgun, why don't you just use an M1911A1 in stead of that monstrosity ?


The KAP-40 has worked very well for our military in the past. We've also used the M1911A1 rather frequently too, but not as often.

I'm just saying that it looks like something I drew. People around here will be able to tell you that that makes it inherently bad.
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Postby Night Elven Empire » Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:06 pm

Benomia wrote:
Night Elven Empire wrote:
The KAP-40 has worked very well for our military in the past. We've also used the M1911A1 rather frequently too, but not as often.

I'm just saying that it looks like something I drew. People around here will be able to tell you that that makes it inherently bad.


(How ironic. It's from Black Ops 2.)
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:08 pm

Night Elven Empire wrote:
Benomia wrote:I'm just saying that it looks like something I drew. People around here will be able to tell you that that makes it inherently bad.


(How ironic. It's from Black Ops 2.)

>Call of Duty
>Good with firearms
Encountered inherent contradiction, rebooting system, please standby.
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Postby Night Elven Empire » Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:10 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Night Elven Empire wrote:
(How ironic. It's from Black Ops 2.)

>Call of Duty
>Good with firearms
Encountered inherent contradiction, rebooting system, please standby.


(Okay, that was pretty funny. Is it absolutely mandatory that I change the image? >.>)
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Postby Immoren » Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:10 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Night Elven Empire wrote:
(How ironic. It's from Black Ops 2.)

>Call of Duty
>Good with firearms
Encountered inherent contradiction, rebooting system, please standby.

Self-destruct sequence initiated:10, 9, 8,...
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Postby Night Elven Empire » Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:12 pm

(Eh, I decided to change the pistol anyway after finding a sexier design.)
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Postby Puzikas » Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:12 pm

Night Elven Empire wrote:
Benomia wrote:I'm just saying that it looks like something I drew. People around here will be able to tell you that that makes it inherently bad.


(How ironic. It's from Black Ops 2.)


And in there is the issue.
Black Ops 2 is a mockery of firearms, and I have never seen a more backwards assumtion of firearms. As are most Call of Dutys.

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