Main Military Weapon of Your Country: Mod 7

[Torrocca]

There is no way a magazine-fed rifle could simply become belt fed.

AR-10

Thank you, Immoren.

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Nice With this you could probably make a DMR version and possibly a Sniper Rifle version


Also because I'm 1 bored and 2 tired. Can you make Glass bullet's? And will they be good Anti Personal rounds?

I'll totally get to that, just not right now. I still need to think up a name for my weapon! D:

well, that and I need to think up some reasonable specs.

[Samozaryadnyastan]

Diamond and gold actually have brilliant military purpose uses, but there are far cheaper materials that will perform worse, but not hugely so.

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

Diamond and gold actually have brilliant military purpose uses, but there are far cheaper materials that will perform worse, but not hugely so.

Osmium bullets, ho*!


*As in tally-ho

[The Zeonic States]

Diamond and gold actually have brilliant military purpose uses, but there are far cheaper materials that will perform worse, but not hugely so.

Use em in circuits like every one else and occasionally have the diamond used (Artifical diamond) Used as a focusing lense on a emitter for devices that require something that pure to act as an emitter but using them is rounds is not cost effective at all.

Not to mention refining the gold and making it impure enough to act as a solid round to reach the speed of that anti matter rifle requires? It's not anywhere near worth it, Diamond has its own set of issues that come along with that.

It's not a easy material to work with for one, scarcity is another issue unless if you are using manmade diamonds but even those aren't cheaper then simple lead or steel or brass.

[Nua Corda]

Moar RP-1898 glory.

1. SRT-98 tactical match version used by Home Defense Corps snipers and some police departments (issued 1998-present, still needs scope and bipod)

2. Carbine Pattern (issued 1935-1941)

3. Original Pattern (issued 1898-1937)

[Samozaryadnyastan]

Diamond-edged cutting blades would make for one of the best combat knives. It's sharp, will remain so for a long-ass time, and is difficult to break. Tungsten carbide may be hard and sharp, but it's quite brittle.

Meanwhile, gold liners are supposedly one of the best available for HEAT-type munitions, offering one of the best penetration values of all materials.
On the topic, a combination DU/Osmium penetrator would make an awesome APFSDS round, but Osmium is way too prohibitively expensive for that. Global production averages probably enough to fill half an Abrams' ammunition stowage worth of rounds per year.

[Samozaryadnyastan]

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Moar RP-1898 glory.

1. SRT-98 tactical match version used by Home Defense Corps snipers and some police departments (issued 1998-present, still needs scope and bipod)

2. Carbine Pattern (issued 1935-1941)

3. Original Pattern (issued 1898-1937)

Any particular reason the modern version lost the rotary internal magazine? It'd save a fair bit of vertical space to retain it. The modification required would have probably made it preferable to find a more conventional bolt-action rifle standard.

[Vareiln]

Diamond and gold actually have brilliant military purpose uses, but there are far cheaper materials that will perform worse, but not hugely so.

Use em in circuits like every one else and occasionally have the diamond used (Artifical diamond) Used as a focusing lense on a emitter for devices that require something that pure to act as an emitter but using them is rounds is not cost effective at all.

Not to mention refining the gold and making it impure enough to act as a solid round to reach the speed of that anti matter rifle requires? It's not anywhere near worth it, Diamond has its own set of issues that come along with that.

It's not a easy material to work with for one, scarcity is another issue unless if you are using manmade diamonds but even those aren't cheaper then simple lead or steel or brass.

I'm sorry, did you seriously just call diamonds scarce?
I believe Senestrum once said something about diamond tipped bullets being marginally more effective at penetration at high speeds. I could be wrong.

[Nua Corda]

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Moar RP-1898 glory.

1. SRT-98 tactical match version used by Home Defense Corps snipers and some police departments (issued 1998-present, still needs scope and bipod)

2. Carbine Pattern (issued 1935-1941)

3. Original Pattern (issued 1898-1937)

Any particular reason the modern version lost the rotary internal magazine? It'd save a fair bit of vertical space to retain it. The modification required would have probably made it preferable to find a more conventional bolt-action rifle standard.

The modern version was originally created as a "sporterized" version for the civilian market. Some were still produced with rotary mags, but the mall-ninja crowed created demand for a version feeding from STANAG-H mags (large-caliber STANAGs, used in Cordian AR-10s and other modern battle rifles). This ended up being adopted by the police and HDC, because it could share mags with the AR-10s in service.

[Samozaryadnyastan]

Use em in circuits like every one else and occasionally have the diamond used (Artifical diamond) Used as a focusing lense on a emitter for devices that require something that pure to act as an emitter but using them is rounds is not cost effective at all.

Not to mention refining the gold and making it impure enough to act as a solid round to reach the speed of that anti matter rifle requires? It's not anywhere near worth it, Diamond has its own set of issues that come along with that.

It's not a easy material to work with for one, scarcity is another issue unless if you are using manmade diamonds but even those aren't cheaper then simple lead or steel or brass.

I'm sorry, did you seriously just call diamonds scarce?
I believe Senestrum once said something about diamond tipped bullets being marginally more effective at penetration at high speeds. I could be wrong.

They would be (if you remembered the quote right), but it doesn't mean that there are resources available to make it worthwhile or feasible. Same reason why Osmium APFSDS doesn't exist.

[Morrdh]

The L1A1 SLR, a British version of the FN FAL, is the main infantry rifle of the Commonwealth Armed Forces.

[The Zeonic States]

Use em in circuits like every one else and occasionally have the diamond used (Artifical diamond) Used as a focusing lense on a emitter for devices that require something that pure to act as an emitter but using them is rounds is not cost effective at all.

Not to mention refining the gold and making it impure enough to act as a solid round to reach the speed of that anti matter rifle requires? It's not anywhere near worth it, Diamond has its own set of issues that come along with that.

It's not a easy material to work with for one, scarcity is another issue unless if you are using manmade diamonds but even those aren't cheaper then simple lead or steel or brass.

I'm sorry, did you seriously just call diamonds scarce?
I believe Senestrum once said something about diamond tipped bullets being marginally more effective at penetration at high speeds. I could be wrong.

Are you living in a diffrent world from me where you don't have a billion diffrent sources reporting on the "scarcity of high grade diamonds" ?

Admittedly you wouldn't need really a high grade diamond to act as a bullet i suppose just a lump of carbon dense enough to do the job i suppose but why not just use normal existing rounds that don't require you to go out of the way to mine and extract and cut?

[Vareiln]

I'm sorry, did you seriously just call diamonds scarce?
I believe Senestrum once said something about diamond tipped bullets being marginally more effective at penetration at high speeds. I could be wrong.

Are you living in a diffrent world from me where you don't have a billion diffrent sources reporting on the "scarcity of high grade diamonds" ?

Admittedly you wouldn't need really a high grade diamond to act as a bullet i suppose just a lump of carbon dense enough to do the job i suppose but why not just use normal existing rounds that don't require you to go out of the way to mine and extract and cut?

You didn't specify "high grade". Diamonds themselves are actually very common.

And that's why it's likely not done. It would only offer a marginal improvement with the cost of all that.

[Torrocca]

made a DMR with a x4 zoom scope.

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

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made a DMR with a x4 zoom scope.

A barrel that long might actually cause you to lose long range performance. Just something to take into consideration.

[Torrocca]

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made a DMR with a x4 zoom scope.

A barrel that long might actually cause you to lose long range performance. Just something to take into consideration.

True, true. I'll consider shortening it, though I might leave it.

[The Zeonic States]

Are you living in a diffrent world from me where you don't have a billion diffrent sources reporting on the "scarcity of high grade diamonds" ?

Admittedly you wouldn't need really a high grade diamond to act as a bullet i suppose just a lump of carbon dense enough to do the job i suppose but why not just use normal existing rounds that don't require you to go out of the way to mine and extract and cut?

You didn't specify "high grade". Diamonds themselves are actually very common.

And that's why it's likely not done. It would only offer a marginal improvement with the cost of all that.

We might have a taste for the dramatic and impressive in the Zeonic states with our Railgun nuclear warhead launching selves and all but even we wouldn't spring for that.

The railgun launcher is just too neat though to ditch even though it pretty is only a one shot weapon due to the cooling requirements to maintain barrel interigty outweighing the cost of a replacement.

Funny how this world works

[Nua Corda]

Synthetic diamonds, yo.

[The Zeonic States]

Synthetic diamonds, yo.

We use those! I mentioned that; Emitters and in elecrtical and computing systems just like Gold.

We don't skimp on the materials for Government and Military mainframes and super computers like some folks.

[Samozaryadnyastan]

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made a DMR with a x4 zoom scope.

A barrel that long might actually cause you to lose long range performance. Just something to take into consideration.

I don't think it's that long. It's probably only RPK sort of length.
Just as a note, with DMRs, you might as well issue reduced capacity magazines. It'll produce less vertical obstruction, so that the bipod can be used nicely. What a shame PMG doesn't have low-cap AK mags...

[Vareiln]

A barrel that long might actually cause you to lose long range performance. Just something to take into consideration.

I don't think it's that long. It's probably only RPK sort of length.
Just as a note, with DMRs, you might as well issue reduced capacity magazines. It'll produce less vertical obstruction, so that the bipod can be used nicely. What a shame PMG doesn't have low-cap AK mags...

You could always just rotate the magazine, stick it in further, and use white shapes to block out whatever sticks out of the top of the gun.

[Torrocca]

A barrel that long might actually cause you to lose long range performance. Just something to take into consideration.

I don't think it's that long. It's probably only RPK sort of length.
Just as a note, with DMRs, you might as well issue reduced capacity magazines. It'll produce less vertical obstruction, so that the bipod can be used nicely. What a shame PMG doesn't have low-cap AK mags...

yup, I would've put a low-cap AK mag there if they did have them.

[Samozaryadnyastan]

Well, weapons in 9x39mm (popular suppressed round in the Russian military) use straight magazines, and 9x39 cases are derived from 7.62 Soviet cases.
You could get away with a short, straight magazine for this.

[Purpelia]

Is there any gain to be had in terms of power, accuracy and other stuff from the ye old rifles that had really long barrels? I am talking about the stuff like the original mausers and mousins that had 800mm or so of barrel compared to modern battle rifles and snipers that tend to be in the 600mm range. I find it interesting that even modern DMR's like the SVD have only 600mm worth of barrel. Hence my question.

[Samozaryadnyastan]

7.62 NATO was apparently optimised for 22" of barrel (M14). I imagine that older rifles were chosen for optimal length to give a person of average stature a good reach with a bayonet, rather than to give an empirical improvement on heavy rifle performance.
But ofc, I have no idea.
After all, the Mosin with bayonet affixed was 5'6 in length. I imagine, in 1891, that this was pretty close to the average height of the Russian infantryman.