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Postby Galla- » Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:23 pm

Saigonias wrote:Shells and missiles filled with noxious gas. (Only used when the area affected is evacuated of all civilians)


Then it's worthless.

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Postby Saigonias » Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:25 pm

Galla- wrote:
Saigonias wrote:Shells and missiles filled with noxious gas. (Only used when the area affected is evacuated of all civilians)


Then it's worthless.

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How dare you think that of me. Chemical warfare is only used if necessary, let's not insult me by using real tragedy to prove how I'm wrong. It's tasteless

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Postby Virana » Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:29 pm

Saigonias wrote:
Galla- wrote:
Then it's worthless.

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How dare you think that of me. Chemical warfare is only used if necessary, let's not insult me by using real tragedy to prove how I'm wrong. It's tasteless

if it's used only if necessary

why da'hell is it your main weapon
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Postby Aqizithiuda » Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:30 pm

Saigonias wrote:
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Effective? Not so much. Cheap? Definitely. Sarin or a similar nerve gas will probably provide better cost effectiveness, but even then it's only marginal against properly prepared troops.


And highly dangerous, highly corrosive, not very cost effective gases are?


You merely quoted me. Why?
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Postby Saigonias » Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:31 pm

Virana wrote:
Saigonias wrote:How dare you think that of me. Chemical warfare is only used if necessary, let's not insult me by using real tragedy to prove how I'm wrong. It's tasteless

if it's used only if necessary

why da'hell is it your main weapon

Just nvm. I change to conventional weapons. I'm tired of the arguing

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Postby Saigonias » Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:31 pm

Aqizithiuda wrote:
Saigonias wrote:


You merely quoted me. Why?

I said something but it didn't show

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Postby Galla- » Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:33 pm

Saigonias wrote:
Galla- wrote:
Then it's worthless.

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How dare you think that of me. Chemical warfare is only used if necessary, let's not insult me by using real tragedy to prove how I'm wrong. It's tasteless


If it's the "main military weapon" it's probably not used "if necessary" but rather "all the time".

Besides, it's always best to simply kill all the cities with poison gas and incendiaries, really.

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Postby Saigonias » Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:36 pm

OOOHHHHHH. I thought this was the most destructive weapons thread

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Postby Registug » Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:44 pm

This thread is more about what your main issue rifle is for your military than anything else.
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Postby Aqizithiuda » Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:47 pm

Saigonias wrote:OOOHHHHHH. I thought this was the most destructive weapons thread


If it was that, I'd have pointed out that I could nuke you from orbit ;).
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Postby The Republic of Lanos » Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:50 pm

I'd imagine some dipshit grunts using those nerve gas weapons on accident to comical effect, for the rest of us, on their own men in the barracks on one drunken night of partying.

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Postby Registug » Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:55 am

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/dsa_06_med_12-tfb.jpeg

So one thing that struck as odd about this one (apart from it was made by Malaysians and that it's pretty horrendous) is the placement of the sight. All things considered, it doesn't look so uncomfortable to hold/shoot.

I dunno, I've not actually been able to shoot a gun (preemptive shut up) so maybe that isn't true and it's actually extremely uncomfortable to shoot.
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Postby Cordessia » Wed Jan 02, 2013 3:24 am

^

I imagine that thing would be quite nice in that you no longer need to lower your head to the level of the typical rifle's sight level any more (well, not as much as usual). Now firing from the hip is a (remote) possibility...

That said, it looks like something somebody put together in a garage somewhere. Very boxy, lots of what's probably sheet metal... it's probably a decent firearm, but it doesn't have the trappings of a modern day rifle (aesthetically speaking anyway).




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Postby San-Silvacian » Wed Jan 02, 2013 4:07 am

The Republic of Lanos wrote:I'd imagine some dipshit grunts using those nerve gas weapons on accident to comical effect, for the rest of us, on their own men in the barracks on one drunken night of partying.


"Hey guys! *hic* Lets go get those pricks in A-Barracks and spray 'em with *hic* some Sarin Gas!"
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Wed Jan 02, 2013 4:11 am

The Zeonic States wrote:Again was talking to a buddy today and we were going over the diffrence between "Tactical Combat Shotguns" And "Riot Shotguns" And Ultimately both agreed that their weren't very many both were designed to hold more rounds then one made for hunting and while i stated that tactical combat shotguns wouldn't be used in the defensive role riot shotguns fell into that's more of an application rather then by model or design.

I also stated the lack of range compared to combat shotguns, but overall found them fairly similar in design and application but also pointed out that combat shotguns were in my opinion superior and operated on a Military design pattern unlike many riot shotguns, Aka Bayonet attactment room and heat shielding over a barrel.

Riot shotguns generally don't carry such features.

o.o Honestly if he didn't stimulate my brain with his rigorous questioning i probably wouldn't drink with him.

I would imagine a combat shotgun was a bayonet-mounting 12-gauge high-capacity shotgun, while a riot shotgun may be 12ga or wider bore, and always pump-action (or in some other way non-automatic). Since 40mm GLs can have less lethal options, I guess they could count as hilarious 'riot shotguns'.
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Postby Benomia » Wed Jan 02, 2013 5:09 am

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There is no way a magazine-fed rifle could simply become belt fed.
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Postby Immoren » Wed Jan 02, 2013 5:11 am

Benomia wrote:
Torrocca wrote:

There is no way a magazine-fed rifle could simply become belt fed.


AR-10
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Postby Benomia » Wed Jan 02, 2013 5:13 am

Immoren wrote:
Benomia wrote:There is no way a magazine-fed rifle could simply become belt fed.


AR10

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Postby Crookfur » Wed Jan 02, 2013 5:28 am

Benomia wrote:
Immoren wrote:
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Also see Ares Shrike/AMG and various HK -1/21 models.


BTW in regard to your 44mag rifle there isn't any poitn in having more than 18" (441mm) of barrel and in fact you would be as well maxing out at abaout 15" (381mm) at least according to the results recorded by the BBTI team: http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/44mag.html
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Postby Yes Im Biop » Wed Jan 02, 2013 8:32 am

Torrocca wrote:


Nice With this you could probably make a DMR version and possibly a Sniper Rifle version


Also because I'm 1 bored and 2 tired. Can you make Glass bullet's? And will they be good Anti Personal rounds?
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Postby Immoren » Wed Jan 02, 2013 9:45 am

Yes Im Biop wrote:
Torrocca wrote:


Nice With this you could probably make a DMR version and possibly a Sniper Rifle version


Also because I'm 1 bored and 2 tired. Can you make Glass bullet's? And will they be good Anti Personal rounds?


Any glass capable of surviving those gees is too expensive to bother.
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Postby Sevvania » Wed Jan 02, 2013 9:54 am

Yes Im Biop wrote:
Torrocca wrote:


Nice With this you could probably make a DMR version and possibly a Sniper Rifle version


Also because I'm 1 bored and 2 tired. Can you make Glass bullet's? And will they be good Anti Personal rounds?

I would imagine lead or fragmenting rounds would be just as effective, if not moreso.
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Postby Fjordeland » Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:02 am

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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Wed Jan 02, 2013 11:02 am

Registug wrote:http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/dsa_06_med_12-tfb.jpeg

So one thing that struck as odd about this one (apart from it was made by Malaysians and that it's pretty horrendous) is the placement of the sight. All things considered, it doesn't look so uncomfortable to hold/shoot.

I dunno, I've not actually been able to shoot a gun (preemptive shut up) so maybe that isn't true and it's actually extremely uncomfortable to shoot.

From what I see the iron sight is actually only a little higher than what a normal sight would be sitting at. I have never been able to figure out the rest of that wonky carrying handle thing.
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Postby The Zeonic States » Wed Jan 02, 2013 11:11 am

Immoren wrote:
Yes Im Biop wrote:
Nice With this you could probably make a DMR version and possibly a Sniper Rifle version


Also because I'm 1 bored and 2 tired. Can you make Glass bullet's? And will they be good Anti Personal rounds?


Any glass capable of surviving those gees is too expensive to bother.


Just like Diamond and Gold.

Stylish sure but unless if you are a billionare and not giving a crud in what you use as far as rounds in self defense i wouldn't bother.
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