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Who should be the OP of the next Main Military Weapons thread

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Postby Benomia » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:51 pm

Torrocca wrote:
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any suggestions on what to fix would be nicer than that

The only way to fix that would be to start over.
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Postby Torrocca » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:53 pm

Yes Im Biop wrote:
Benomia wrote:And you're looking at the carbine version. The full rifle has a barrel 100mm longer than that.


Hope you don't plan on these lasting long, Pistol round foul up pretty quickly.

Benomia wrote:Stopping power, power, muzzle velocity (power), power, and more power. And because we can't reasonably use it in a handgun.


Use a 9 or 10mm Rifle round then, Pistol round's aren't good at range's.


Torrocca wrote:(Image)

Eh, my second try and making a weapon by myself



Well...It seem's to have the right part's in the right place's. Just a bit of problem with the layering of it


Oh, okay. Which parts?
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Postby Yes Im Biop » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:55 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Yes Im Biop wrote:
Hope you don't plan on these lasting long, Pistol round foul up pretty quickly.



Use a 9 or 10mm Rifle round then, Pistol round's aren't good at range's.





Well...It seem's to have the right part's in the right place's. Just a bit of problem with the layering of it


Oh, okay. Which parts?


I was gonna say top rail but looking at it it's just a bit lower then it should be.
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Postby Torrocca » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:58 pm

Yes Im Biop wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Oh, okay. Which parts?


I was gonna say top rail but looking at it it's just a bit lower then it should be.


Oh. That's it?
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Postby Yes Im Biop » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:58 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Yes Im Biop wrote:
I was gonna say top rail but looking at it it's just a bit lower then it should be.


Oh. That's it?


More or less
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Postby Torrocca » Tue Jan 01, 2013 4:00 pm

Yes Im Biop wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Oh. That's it?


More or less


Eh.

It feels like the barrel and gas tube are up too high. :/
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Postby Benomia » Tue Jan 01, 2013 4:01 pm

And the magazine is just a bit too far to the left.
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Postby Torrocca » Tue Jan 01, 2013 4:02 pm

Benomia wrote:And the magazine is just a bit too far to the left.


Don't you mean too far to the front?
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Postby Benomia » Tue Jan 01, 2013 4:03 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Benomia wrote:And the magazine is just a bit too far to the left.


Don't you mean too far to the front?

Right.
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Ragnarum wrote:Ragnarum transforms into a giant godzilla like creature, then walks into the sunset while emotional music plays and Morgan Freeman narrates.
Kouralia wrote:Everyone hates us: we're MMW. We're like the poster children of Realismfggtry.
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Postby Torrocca » Tue Jan 01, 2013 4:06 pm

Benomia wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Don't you mean too far to the front?

Right.


Image

Fixed it.
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Postby Benomia » Tue Jan 01, 2013 4:11 pm

Much better. Now just get rid of that crazy lower rail and you'll be set.
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Postby Torrocca » Tue Jan 01, 2013 4:50 pm

Image


made a carbine and fixed the lower rails.
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Postby Benomia » Tue Jan 01, 2013 4:53 pm

T17CQ prototype:

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Postby Hurtful Thoughts » Tue Jan 01, 2013 5:32 pm

Nua Corda wrote:Nobody ever did say which style was better...

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Not sure what the rod is for... Too short for cleaning-rod...

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The Russians seemed to enjoy using white-birch and 'cratewood'; on the Mosin, the prolonged exposure to cosmoline and god knows what else has darkened the grain for an appreciable depth.

If you somehow got ALL the oil out, the wooden stock is ash-white and feels like balsa.
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Postby Nua Corda » Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:07 pm

Hurtful Thoughts wrote:
Nua Corda wrote:Nobody ever did say which style was better...

(Image)

Not sure what the rod is for... Too short for cleaning-rod...


It's in two sections. Like a tent pole. Any longer would hinder bayonet mounting.
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Postby The Zeonic States » Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:12 pm

Again was talking to a buddy today and we were going over the diffrence between "Tactical Combat Shotguns" And "Riot Shotguns" And Ultimately both agreed that their weren't very many both were designed to hold more rounds then one made for hunting and while i stated that tactical combat shotguns wouldn't be used in the defensive role riot shotguns fell into that's more of an application rather then by model or design.

I also stated the lack of range compared to combat shotguns, but overall found them fairly similar in design and application but also pointed out that combat shotguns were in my opinion superior and operated on a Military design pattern unlike many riot shotguns, Aka Bayonet attactment room and heat shielding over a barrel.

Riot shotguns generally don't carry such features.

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Postby Coltarin » Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:21 pm

repost for new page
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here is a WIP of the upper.
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Postby Virana » Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:23 pm

Coltarin wrote:repost for new page
(Image)
here is a WIP of the upper.

That doesn't look bad.

I prefer AUG style pistol grip to the QBZ style, though.
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Postby The Zeonic States » Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:24 pm

Virana wrote:
Coltarin wrote:repost for new page
(Image)
here is a WIP of the upper.

That actually doesn't look bad.

I prefer AUG style pistol grip to the QBZ style, though.


Much as i like the Aug i friggin HATE It's pistol grip
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Postby Saigonias » Tue Jan 01, 2013 7:16 pm

Shells and missiles filled with noxious gas. (Only used when the area affected is evacuated of all civilians)

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Postby Coltarin » Tue Jan 01, 2013 8:06 pm

Virana wrote:
Coltarin wrote:repost for new page
(Image)
here is a WIP of the upper.

That doesn't look bad.

I prefer AUG style pistol grip to the QBZ style, though.

I did an AUG style grip, liked this one more.

Saigonias wrote:Shells and missiles filled with noxious gas. (Only used when the area affected is evacuated of all civilians)

Good thing my troops wear gas masks as apart of the uniform, your military is forfeit.
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Postby Deutsche Demokratischer Volksstaat » Tue Jan 01, 2013 8:46 pm

Eastern Slavia wrote:Upgrade program for 2016, Volk assault rifles accessories actually enter production.(though still only issued to VV units on a wide scale)

An improved design of the under barrel 23mm shotgun is included(still a WIP, can't decide what trigger to use), along with a combination vertical grip/tactical light - its shape was copied from the Hungarian AMD series. A flash supressor/sound modulator is supplied for night fighting, completely elimination visible flash and distorting the report, making gunfire nearly impossible to pinpoint at ranges of 300m or greater. it is suitable for long instances of prolonged contact and was designed to be easily cleaned and repaired.
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Need an optical sight for close fighting that isn't large, since we don't really make electronic sights and mostly use older Soviet designed glass optics. it still uses the old GP-25 since there wasn't a reason to change it.


I'd find PK-AS to be an excellent Eastern Bloc sight for shorter range work.
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Postby San-Silvacian » Tue Jan 01, 2013 9:14 pm

Saigonias wrote:Shells and missiles filled with noxious gas. (Only used when the area affected is evacuated of all civilians)


Then when you get creamed by a nuclear power you'll learn why that is a bad thing.
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Postby Aqizithiuda » Tue Jan 01, 2013 9:16 pm

Saigonias wrote:Shells and missiles filled with noxious gas. (Only used when the area affected is evacuated of all civilians)


*mingles troops with unarmed slaves and attacks*

*ensures all vital areas have high concentrations of slave women and children*

And that is why you need a better MMW.
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Postby Spreewerke » Tue Jan 01, 2013 9:19 pm

Eastern Slavia wrote:Upgrade program for 2016, Volk assault rifles accessories actually enter production.(though still only issued to VV units on a wide scale)

An improved design of the under barrel 23mm shotgun is included(still a WIP, can't decide what trigger to use), along with a combination vertical grip/tactical light - its shape was copied from the Hungarian AMD series. A flash supressor/sound modulator is supplied for night fighting, completely elimination visible flash and distorting the report, making gunfire nearly impossible to pinpoint at ranges of 300m or greater. it is suitable for long instances of prolonged contact and was designed to be easily cleaned and repaired.
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Need an optical sight for close fighting that isn't large, since we don't really make electronic sights and mostly use older Soviet designed glass optics. it still uses the old GP-25 since there wasn't a reason to change it.



Have you looked at the AimPoint PRO or similar?

Image



EDIT FAKE OF: Also had an idea. Assuming I ever get another AK (probably an SGL 31-94 if I'm lucky, SGL 21 or maybe a standard SGL 31 if not), I have been giving thought into camouflage. Was thinking of degreasing/oiling the metal and applying some acrylic paint via broad-brush (I believe we called it "dry painting" when little paint was used in my painting class many, many years ago). It would go on pretty smooth, and would probably stick pretty well: when it's thin coats that can dry fast and easy, acrylic kicks ass.

Then, if it sucks the penis, rubbing alcohol basically dissolves said paint, so it would be totally removable without destroying the rifle's finish (nor the furniture). Win/win? Anything I'm looking over besides the fact acrylic would probably chip off easy on the high points?

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