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Postby Kalmarium » Tue Jan 01, 2013 2:19 pm

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:
Kalmarium wrote:I stumbled across Pimp My gun today and decided to use my horrible knowledge of modern firearms to make an assault rifle. I know without a doubt there are problems with it, which is why I ask for some help on it. CONSTRUCTIVE criticism please.

(Image)

EDIT: Was re-directed here, so you may see this post on the Creating You thread

Is "a lot better than much of what comes through here" constructive criticism? The size of the magazine would imply a battle rifle cartridge, and possibly a large one at that.
The way to 'save' on PMG is to go to 'export' and then 'export code'. It will save to your clipboard the code in PMG that the gun takes up. Save it as a notepad file (notepad does not alter the formatting or symbols of code, itself being a code-based programme), and then you can go to PMG 'import' and presumably copy the code into there, to pick up where you left off.


Thanks! Will help me later-on.


Is "a lot better than much of what comes through here" constructive criticism? The size of the magazine would imply a battle rifle cartridge, and possibly a large one at that.

Hmm really? And yes, I suppose :P

Also the Mag had been changed, I believe that was a .50 cal cartridge, but not sure.
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Postby Benomia » Tue Jan 01, 2013 2:30 pm

Benomia wrote:
Kalmarium wrote:Something like this? (yes the mag is too small, I forgot to fix that).
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Also do you know how to save these on PMG so I don't have to keep rebuilding these from scratch? Also I am aware some parts are missing, I'm new to this.

That's a lot better, but here is some stuff I have to say about it:

The magazine you chose? Perfect. The gun itself is obviously based on an HK 417 so you might want to go with the SCAR-H 20 round magazine, but the one you have is fine.
The rail system you have only really looks good when it's on the 417 itself, so you'll probably want to go with a system that doesn't have those gaps near the left edge. There is one that is longer, I can't remember the name of it now.
Other than that, you're going to want to move the flash hinder over about a centimeter so you can't see the little part of the barrel, and you may want to shrink the stock slightly so it fits on the receiver nicely. Other than that, you're pretty much good.

EDIT: When you think you're done, go to File and hit Export. Copy that code and paste it into a text document. When you want to resume working on it, just copy the code from the document, hit Import, and paste it in there.
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Postby -The Auroran Empire » Tue Jan 01, 2013 2:31 pm

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Postby Eastern Slavia » Tue Jan 01, 2013 2:36 pm

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Postby Benomia » Tue Jan 01, 2013 2:44 pm

T-17 PROTO2:

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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Tue Jan 01, 2013 2:46 pm

Kalmarium wrote:
Samozaryadnyastan wrote:Is "a lot better than much of what comes through here" constructive criticism? The size of the magazine would imply a battle rifle cartridge, and possibly a large one at that.

Hmm really? And yes, I suppose :P

Also the Mag had been changed, I believe that was a .50 cal cartridge, but not sure.

It's a .338 Lapua Magnum magazine, for the M98B rifle.
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I don't see why it wouldn't technically work, but it looks incredibly space inefficient and would result in a tall receiver.
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Postby Virana » Tue Jan 01, 2013 2:50 pm

Benomia wrote:T-17 PROTO2:

(Image)

.44 Magnum, 30 box, gas piston.
Improvements over PROTO1: Improved flash hinder, swapped iron sights for some EOTech, grenade launcher

What's up with those random colors in your PMG work?

that's a blue you don't normally see in firearms.
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Postby Eastern Slavia » Tue Jan 01, 2013 2:51 pm

Virana wrote:
Benomia wrote:T-17 PROTO2:

(Image)

.44 Magnum, 30 box, gas piston.
Improvements over PROTO1: Improved flash hinder, swapped iron sights for some EOTech, grenade launcher

What's up with those random colors in your PMG work?

that's a blue you don't normally see in firearms.


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Benomia
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Postby Benomia » Tue Jan 01, 2013 2:59 pm

Virana wrote:
Benomia wrote:T-17 PROTO2:

(Image)

.44 Magnum, 30 box, gas piston.
Improvements over PROTO1: Improved flash hinder, swapped iron sights for some EOTech, grenade launcher

What's up with those random colors in your PMG work?

that's a blue you don't normally see in firearms.

If the rifle ever goes into production, it won't have the various hues and shades the prototypes have.

Anyway,
T-17 PROCAR:

Image

Prototype Carbine. Shorter barrel, collapsible stock, revised flash hinder.
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Postby Kouralia » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:10 pm

Kalmarium wrote:
Samozaryadnyastan wrote:Is "a lot better than much of what comes through here" constructive criticism? The size of the magazine would imply a battle rifle cartridge, and possibly a large one at that.
The way to 'save' on PMG is to go to 'export' and then 'export code'. It will save to your clipboard the code in PMG that the gun takes up. Save it as a notepad file (notepad does not alter the formatting or symbols of code, itself being a code-based programme), and then you can go to PMG 'import' and presumably copy the code into there, to pick up where you left off.


Thanks! Will help me later-on.


Is "a lot better than much of what comes through here" constructive criticism? The size of the magazine would imply a battle rifle cartridge, and possibly a large one at that.

Hmm really? And yes, I suppose :P

Also the Mag had been changed, I believe that was a .50 cal cartridge, but not sure.

As Samoz said: better than most. May I direct you to the PMG usage guide in my signature? You may find it helpful, I don't know.
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Postby Yes Im Biop » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:26 pm

Benomia wrote:
Virana wrote:What's up with those random colors in your PMG work?

that's a blue you don't normally see in firearms.

If the rifle ever goes into production, it won't have the various hues and shades the prototypes have.

Anyway,
T-17 PROCAR:

Image

Prototype Carbine. Shorter barrel, collapsible stock, revised flash hinder.


That's a long ass barrel for a .44 Pistol round.
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Postby Benomia » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:29 pm

Yes Im Biop wrote:
Benomia wrote:If the rifle ever goes into production, it won't have the various hues and shades the prototypes have.

Anyway,
T-17 PROCAR:

Image

Prototype Carbine. Shorter barrel, collapsible stock, revised flash hinder.


That's a long ass barrel for a .44 Pistol round.

And you're looking at the carbine version. The full rifle has a barrel 100mm longer than that.
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Postby The Republic of Lanos » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:30 pm

The big question is why are you using a .44 Magnum round for a service rifle?

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Postby Kalmarium » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:30 pm

Kouralia wrote:
Kalmarium wrote:
Thanks! Will help me later-on.



Hmm really? And yes, I suppose :P

Also the Mag had been changed, I believe that was a .50 cal cartridge, but not sure.

As Samoz said: better than most. May I direct you to the PMG usage guide in my signature? You may find it helpful, I don't know.

Already found it, but thanks anyway. :P
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Postby Benomia » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:32 pm

The Republic of Lanos wrote:The big question is why are you using a .44 Magnum round for a service rifle?

Stopping power, power, muzzle velocity (power), power, and more power. And because we can't reasonably use it in a handgun.
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Postby Kalmarium » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:35 pm

Benomia wrote:T-17 PROTO2:

(Image)

.44 Magnum, 30 box, gas piston.
Improvements over PROTO1: Improved flash hinder, swapped iron sights for some EOTech, grenade launcher

Nice
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Postby Torrocca » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:40 pm

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Eh, my second try and making a weapon by myself
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Postby Kouralia » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:43 pm

Torrocca wrote:(Image)

Eh, my second try and making a weapon by myself

I think I shall gesture vaguely toward my signature to you as well!
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Postby Benomia » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:46 pm

Torrocca wrote:(Image)

Eh, my second try and making a weapon by myself

My eyes...they hurt...
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Postby Kouralia » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:49 pm

Benomia wrote:
Torrocca wrote:(Image)

Eh, my second try and making a weapon by myself

My eyes...they hurt...

You can talk.
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Postby Torrocca » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:49 pm

Benomia wrote:
Torrocca wrote:(Image)

Eh, my second try and making a weapon by myself

My eyes...they hurt...


It's still much better than the first rifle I made.

No, I won't post it because I don't feel like getting sued for any faces melting due to people seeing it.
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Postby Yes Im Biop » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:50 pm

Benomia wrote:
Yes Im Biop wrote:
That's a long ass barrel for a .44 Pistol round.

And you're looking at the carbine version. The full rifle has a barrel 100mm longer than that.


Hope you don't plan on these lasting long, Pistol round foul up pretty quickly.

Benomia wrote:
The Republic of Lanos wrote:The big question is why are you using a .44 Magnum round for a service rifle?

Stopping power, power, muzzle velocity (power), power, and more power. And because we can't reasonably use it in a handgun.


Use a 9 or 10mm Rifle round then, Pistol round's aren't good at range's.


Torrocca wrote:(Image)

Eh, my second try and making a weapon by myself



Well...It seem's to have the right part's in the right place's. Just a bit of problem with the layering of it
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Postby Torrocca » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:50 pm

Kouralia wrote:
Torrocca wrote:(Image)

Eh, my second try and making a weapon by myself

I think I shall gesture vaguely toward my signature to you as well!


any suggestions on what to fix would be nicer than that
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