Main Military Weapon of Your Country: Mod 7

[Puzikas]

I guess that's the two MGs in the three sections.

I'm semi-joking, manhandled HMGs are pretty much on the way out. I don't think the Russians have had infantry-carried HMGs since before they phased out the KPV. The USMC apparently has infantry-carried M2s, as opposed to Hummer-mounted, I assume from the fact it's a three or four man team with only 200rds.

Which is where I came up with my Robinson-derived 14.5mm machine gun with a team of three.
They'd have had the team leader on a quad bike carrying the machine gun and ammunition on a trailer. The two operators would have been on another quad.

KORD 6P50(-1) card was/ia intended for use as an infantry carried HMG

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[Samozaryadnyastan]

Yes it was, how did I forget that?
But still, they've done without for decades.

You wouldn't happen to know roughly where in unit structure it would have been issued, would you?

[Puzikas]

Yes it was, how did I forget that?
But still, they've done without for decades.

You wouldn't happen to know roughly where in unit structure it would have been issued, would you?

Do you mean organization levels or whos job it was?

Depends on the unit, you would almost never find it on a squad level unless the squad was made entirely of superhumans. Stronger soldiers could hipfire it with limited capacity for aiming

It could be found with dismounted infantry from motorized rifle units in platoon levels, but again the thing was so heavy and had a tendency to draw fire, no one wanted to deal with carrying the parts and ammunition on long dismounted patrols or situations. But if you needed it you were glad to have it

[Samozaryadnyastan]

Platoon level, really? I am actually surprised it'd be that low.
Especially since at the platoon level, you already have three KPVT guns plus autocannons from the BMP/BTR of the platoon. In fact, that's exactly why I'd figured that the Russians had never really bothered with HMGs since they nailed combined arms.

[Benomia]

Can anyone tell me what would be the handgun with the longest effective range produced in the modern era?

[Samozaryadnyastan]

C96 Artillery.
Not modern, but probably longest range.

Unless you count the ridiculous stuff like the .50 BMG handgun. The Deagle probably has very high range for a pistol (especially with its 10-inch barrel variant), but I'd recommend that for military use you'd stay away from anything 'Magnum' above .357 and anything .50, regardless of anything.

[Puzikas]

Platoon level, really? I am actually surprised it'd be that low.
Especially since at the platoon level, you already have three KPVT guns plus autocannons from the BMP/BTR of the platoon. In fact, that's exactly why I'd figured that the Russians had never really bothered with HMGs since they nailed combined arms.

Thats the lowest I saw it, never once interacted with it in combat.

"To prepare for peace, you must be ready for war" I think the saying goes. If you need a HMG moved where vehicles cant go, the KORD is Russia's go to guy.

[Samozaryadnyastan]

"Si vis pacem, parabellum" I think is the latin phrase.

[Benomia]

C96 Artillery.
Not modern, but probably longest range.

Unless you count the ridiculous stuff like the .50 BMG handgun. The Deagle probably has very high range for a pistol (especially with its 10-inch barrel variant), but I'd recommend that for military use you'd stay away from anything 'Magnum' above .357 and anything .50, regardless of anything.

I was not counting ridiculous stuff like the .50 BMG handgun, no. So what would you recommend for a long range handgun that's modern?

[Samozaryadnyastan]

Why would you want a long-range handgun anyway? 'range' anything is pretty much out of a handgun's remit.
Anything more than about 50m is beyond what you'd realistically attempt to even suppress with a pistol.

Go for an SMG (which typically has a longer barrel than a handgun, and sometimes select fire) or a carbine rifle.

[Kouralia]

C96 Artillery.
Not modern, but probably longest range.

Unless you count the ridiculous stuff like the .50 BMG handgun. The Deagle probably has very high range for a pistol (especially with its 10-inch barrel variant), but I'd recommend that for military use you'd stay away from anything 'Magnum' above .357 and anything .50, regardless of anything.

I was not counting ridiculous stuff like the .50 BMG handgun, no. So what would you recommend for a long range handgun that's modern?

Why do you want a long-range handgun?

The artillery pistols were merely the Carbine-rifles/SMGs of their time.

[Benomia]

I was not counting ridiculous stuff like the .50 BMG handgun, no. So what would you recommend for a long range handgun that's modern?

Why do you want a long-range handgun?

The artillery pistols were merely the Carbine-rifles/SMGs of their time.

For the navy. We have a habit of getting really close to enemy ships, then grabbing rifles and shooting them from the deck.

[Samozaryadnyastan]

Good sir, I present to you the Micro Tavor.


Also the age of the anti-ship missile has ended the days of the 50 yard broadside. You'll only get that close to an 'enemy' ship if your coastguard thinks it's running drugs or pirates. And that's if they let you get that close before already shooting at you.

[Kouralia]

Good sir, I present to you the Micro Tavor.
(Image)

Also the age of the anti-ship missile has ended the days of the 50 yard broadside. You'll only get that close to an 'enemy' ship if your coastguard thinks it's running drugs or pirates. And that's if they let you get that close before already shooting at you.

This is the kind of suff you need for FPGRM. Anti-Materiel Rifle, SMGs, Carbine Rifles and an assault rifle.

[Puzikas]

"Si vis pacem, parabellum" I think is the latin phrase.

Yes thats it.

Can anyone tell me what would be the handgun with the longest effective range produced in the modern era?

Three come to mind.

Desert Eagle, .50AE, Match (10 inch barrel)
S&W 500, Phallic compensation edition, 10 inch barrel
S&W in .460, supposedly the flattest shooting pistol round to date 12 inch barrels exist.

[Frankawaiiland]

The service rifle would be the ACR, 6.8mm version.
In infantry divisions, there would be squads of twelve infantymen, divided in 3 fireteams. Platoons would have 3 to 5 regular squads plus a "Support squad" equiped with snipers, missiles, heavy weaponry, etc. In regular squads, there would be 4 basic infantry roles:
-Rifleman: ACR, FN Five-Seven handgun. One or two per squad would also carry a SMAW rocket launcher.
-Marksman: M14 EBR Mod 0 or MK12 SPR. With a attached KAC Masterkey shotgun or M1014 available.
-Grenadier: Either a ACR or SCAR-H, with either a M320 attached grenade launcher or XM25 airburst GL.
-Machinegunner: MG3 light machinegun. Either the rifleman or the marksman (depending if the rifleman carries a SMAW) would carry additional ammo and assist the machinegunner.
Support squads would be 8, 12 or 16 soldiers depending on the size of the platoon, equiped with snipers (M200 Intervention, Barrett M107), missile launchers (FIM-92 Stinger, FGM-148 Javelin), heavy machineguns (M2 Browning), automatic grenade launchers (HK GMG) or mortars (M224 or M252). The Stinger missile could be carried by riflemen in particular situations. Some specialized units would have access to MP7 and UMP 45 submachine guns, and Special Operation Forces could request other weapons.

[Vareiln]

The service rifle would be the ACR, 6.8mm version.
In infantry divisions, there would be squads of twelve infantymen, divided in 3 fireteams. Platoons would have 3 to 5 regular squads plus a "Support squad" equiped with snipers, missiles, heavy weaponry, etc. In regular squads, there would be 4 basic infantry roles:
-Rifleman: ACR, FN Five-Seven handgun. One or two per squad would also carry a SMAW rocket launcher.
-Marksman: M14 EBR Mod 0 or MK12 SPR. With a attached KAC Masterkey shotgun or M1014 available.
-Grenadier: Either a ACR or SCAR-H, with either a M320 attached grenade launcher or XM25 airburst GL.
-Machinegunner: MG3 light machinegun. Either the rifleman or the marksman (depending if the rifleman carries a SMAW) would carry additional ammo and assist the machinegunner.
Support squads would be 8, 12 or 16 soldiers depending on the size of the platoon, equiped with snipers (M200 Intervention, Barrett M107), missile launchers (FIM-92 Stinger, FGM-148 Javelin), heavy machineguns (M2 Browning), automatic grenade launchers (HK GMG) or mortars (M224 or M252). The Stinger missile could be carried by riflemen in particular situations. Some specialized units would have access to MP7 and UMP 45 submachine guns, and Special Operation Forces could request other weapons.

Dafuq is this shit?

[Puzikas]

The service rifle would be the ACR, 6.8mm version.
In infantry divisions, there would be squads of twelve infantymen, divided in 3 fireteams. Platoons would have 3 to 5 regular squads plus a "Support squad" equiped with snipers, missiles, heavy weaponry, etc. In regular squads, there would be 4 basic infantry roles:
-Rifleman: ACR, FN Five-Seven handgun. One or two per squad would also carry a SMAW rocket launcher.
-Marksman: M14 EBR Mod 0 or MK12 SPR. With a attached KAC Masterkey shotgun or M1014 available.
-Grenadier: Either a ACR or SCAR-H, with either a M320 attached grenade launcher or XM25 airburst GL.
-Machinegunner: MG3 light machinegun. Either the rifleman or the marksman (depending if the rifleman carries a SMAW) would carry additional ammo and assist the machinegunner.
Support squads would be 8, 12 or 16 soldiers depending on the size of the platoon, equiped with snipers (M200 Intervention, Barrett M107), missile launchers (FIM-92 Stinger, FGM-148 Javelin), heavy machineguns (M2 Browning), automatic grenade launchers (HK GMG) or mortars (M224 or M252). The Stinger missile could be carried by riflemen in particular situations. Some specialized units would have access to MP7 and UMP 45 submachine guns, and Special Operation Forces could request other weapons.

I'm seeing a lot of CoD here.
But at the same time its at least wattered down.

Lets start here:

Friend, the ACR is, for the most part, total shit. Total disappointment on their part

[Spreewerke]

Why do you want a long-range handgun?

The artillery pistols were merely the Carbine-rifles/SMGs of their time.

For the navy. We have a habit of getting really close to enemy ships, then grabbing rifles and shooting them from the deck.

If you're grabbing rifles, where do pistols come into play?

[Benomia]

For the navy. We have a habit of getting really close to enemy ships, then grabbing rifles and shooting them from the deck.

If you're grabbing rifles, where do pistols come into play?

Rifles can't be put on a holster when the capitain tells you to man the 160mm guns.

[Puzikas]

For the navy. We have a habit of getting really close to enemy ships, then grabbing rifles and shooting them from the deck.

If you're grabbing rifles, where do pistols come into play?

Swingan from ropes to board ships!

[Registug]

For the navy. We have a habit of getting really close to enemy ships, then grabbing rifles and shooting them from the deck.

If you're grabbing rifles, where do pistols come into play?

So your captain can stand in the bridge and fire at the enemy ship with his sidearm.

[Deutsche Demokratischer Volksstaat]

12.07 here, and it sounds as though MLRS is going off right downstairs...

[The Zeonic States]

Did you know a freind of mine thought that gunships WEREN'T Attack Helicopters.

._. I schooled him on the issue and told em it was just a nickname given to types of attack helicopter, it all falls under the same banner if it was designed for assaulting positions and such some even preform as mobile weapons platform and troop carrier like those Hind's <_< About the damn good helicopter series to crawl out of russia if you ask me.

[Deutsche Demokratischer Volksstaat]

Did you know a freind of mine thought that gunships WEREN'T Attack Helicopters.

._. I schooled him on the issue and told em it was just a nickname given to types of attack helicopter, it all falls under the same banner if it was designed for assaulting positions and such some even preform as mobile weapons platform and troop carrier like those Hind's <_< About the damn good helicopter series to crawl out of russia if you ask me.

Well...