Main Military Weapon of Your Country: Mod 7

[Spreewerke]

Well then, that settles it. 7.62x39 it is.

Thanks Spree

You... you're... you're not even going to ask why?

[Puzikas]

Well then, that settles it. 7.62x39 it is.

Thanks Spree

You... you're... you're not even going to ask why?

Im going to go with spree on this.

YUNOASKWHY7.62?

[The Archangel Conglomerate]

Well then, that settles it. 7.62x39 it is.

Thanks Spree

You... you're... you're not even going to ask why?

Not really. I mean, my opinions are typically formed on 20 or so minutes on Google. You lot tend to have actual hands on experience, and far more knowledge than I.

I can still ask, if you'd like.

Spree! Why you choose lolhuge 7.62 over super tiny 5.45?!

[Spreewerke]

You... you're... you're not even going to ask why?

Not really. I mean, my opinions are typically formed on 20 or so minutes on Google. You lot tend to have actual hands on experience, and far more knowledge than I.

I can still ask, if you'd like.

Spree! Why you choose lolhuge 7.62 over super tiny 5.45?!

BECAUSE IS DO THIS: PIG HEAD GORE: BLOOD AND BONE PRESENT. DO NOT CLICK UNLESS YOU WISH TO SEE. I DO NOT LIE, ONLY TRUTH.


The M67 cartridge features a hollow cavity in the forward portion of the jacketing, not unlike 5.45x39mm 7N6. However, since it is 7.62, it still retains its increased barrier penetration (not quite as much due to air cavity, but still more than 5.45 due to velocity/mass). At the same time, standard lead-core M45 7.62x39mm is like an icepick, punching clean through targets with minimal wounding beyond the 7.62-diameter hole. Make it turn sideways in the target after a couple inches, and this occurs. Fired round does this in-target:

[The Archangel Conglomerate]

OH DEAR GOD, THE HORROR! SPREE, YOU COULD HAVE WARNED ME! YOU SHOULD HAVE WARNED ME!

Anyway... essentially what you're telling me is that the M67 uses the same basic construction as the 5.45, which gives it superior wounding effects to both the M43 and the 5.45 at the cost of a slight reduction in barrier penetration.

[Puzikas]

OH DEAR GOD, THE HORROR! SPREE, YOU COULD HAVE WARNED ME! YOU SHOULD HAVE WARNED ME!

Anyway... basically what you're saying is that the M67 has roughly the same wounding effects (if not greater) as the 5.45, while still retaining most of the 7.62s barrier penetration.

AND HE IS OF 100% CORRECTNESS.

[The Archangel Conglomerate]

Well then, the pig's head leaves little room for doubt. The M67 is clearly the better cartridge.

Anyway, I'm off to bed. Its 1AM and I've got testing tomorrow.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Can I say screw yer face Mauser C96?

[Ea90]

FN-49
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Or even better, a Yanintovian FN-49.

[Aqizithiuda]

AR-10 based shotgun and new type of ammo.

FN FAL in 5.56x45mm and using AUG mags.

Edit:

I got to shoot my friend's shotgun today. I forgot to take pics, but it was definitely a nice looking rifle. Recoil also wasn't as bad as I first thought, but after 26 or so shells my shoulder was starting to feel sore. It also turns out that I'm not a bad shot with a shotgun a ~30 metres, at least when it comes to stationary targets. Hit a can of spray paint first go, and then hit most of the targets I could see.

Still, while much nicer to hold than the SMLE or FAL, the shotgun just doesn't seem as comfortable as the AUG, although I can't put my finger on why.

[Samozaryadnyastan]

Being serious again, what actually is the opinion on this?
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I'm thinking that I ought to remove the folding stock and replace it with a buffer-tube-fitted fixed stock, though probably collapsible M4-style.

And maybe an additional variant that takes BR cartridges for no reason except for AKinallbutanameness

If it's a shotgun, the barrel seems too long on the bottom one.
But either way, it looks phenomenal. Wonderful work.

It's modelled after a UK-legal Vepr-12 shotgun. I imagine the excessive length (27") is to comply with some obscure shotgun hunting law that then permits you to own a magazine-fed semi-automatic combat shotgun.

Being serious again, what actually is the opinion on this?
(Image)
I'm thinking that I ought to remove the folding stock and replace it with a buffer-tube-fitted fixed stock, though probably collapsible M4-style.

And maybe an additional variant that takes BR cartridges for no reason except for AKinallbutanameness

Nyet. 5.5mm hinge-pinned AK-100-series folding stock. Remove pin and you can drop in a folding triangle stock or a folding buffer tube (not available in the US, but I have seen a handful in Russian photographs) for collapsible and folding buttstocks (they don't latch themselves into place when folded, though: just flop).



Also, got my Hogue grips in this afternoon. I will install my Makarov's and take a photo real quick.

As soon as I said 'AKinallbutanameness' I figured I ought to try a full-size folder.

[Ulfr-Reich]

The crazy-as-fuck bullet: http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/09/08/50-bmg-necked-down-to-22/

[Veceria]

If you want to see truly beautiful handguns, go look at the Mastershop section of Sig Sauer's homepage.

[Central and Eastern Visayas]

Not really. I mean, my opinions are typically formed on 20 or so minutes on Google. You lot tend to have actual hands on experience, and far more knowledge than I.

I can still ask, if you'd like.

Spree! Why you choose lolhuge 7.62 over super tiny 5.45?!

BECAUSE IS DO THIS: PIG HEAD GORE: BLOOD AND BONE PRESENT. DO NOT CLICK UNLESS YOU WISH TO SEE. I DO NOT LIE, ONLY TRUTH.


The M67 cartridge features a hollow cavity in the forward portion of the jacketing, not unlike 5.45x39mm 7N6. However, since it is 7.62, it still retains its increased barrier penetration (not quite as much due to air cavity, but still more than 5.45 due to velocity/mass). At the same time, standard lead-core M45 7.62x39mm is like an icepick, punching clean through targets with minimal wounding beyond the 7.62-diameter hole. Make it turn sideways in the target after a couple inches, and this occurs. Fired round does this in-target:

I'm guessing it's still Hague-friendly?

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

StG 08A1. F2000+AUG in 6.8x45mm Steyr (customized 6.8x43mm Remington SPC). Change from AUG variants y/y.

[Samozaryadnyastan]

BECAUSE IS DO THIS: PIG HEAD GORE: BLOOD AND BONE PRESENT. DO NOT CLICK UNLESS YOU WISH TO SEE. I DO NOT LIE, ONLY TRUTH.


The M67 cartridge features a hollow cavity in the forward portion of the jacketing, not unlike 5.45x39mm 7N6. However, since it is 7.62, it still retains its increased barrier penetration (not quite as much due to air cavity, but still more than 5.45 due to velocity/mass). At the same time, standard lead-core M45 7.62x39mm is like an icepick, punching clean through targets with minimal wounding beyond the 7.62-diameter hole. Make it turn sideways in the target after a couple inches, and this occurs. Fired round does this in-target:

I'm guessing it's still Hague-friendly?

Of course.
It doesn't expand, it just goes LULWUT

[Nua Corda]

Siaga/Vepr-12 firing Taser shells for Police, Y/N?

[Samozaryadnyastan]

N.
Taser shotguns can be fucking lethal.

Also, taser guns probably shouldn't be automatics.

[Yes Im Biop]

Siaga/Vepr-12 firing Taser shells for Police, Y/N?

Ouch

[Nua Corda]

N.
Taser shotguns can be fucking lethal.

Also, taser guns probably shouldn't be automatics.

Would you rather a lethal weapon? Chance of lethal vs. guaranteed lethal?

It would be semi-auto only, obv.

[Central and Eastern Visayas]

N.
Taser shotguns can be fucking lethal.

Also, taser guns probably shouldn't be automatics.

Why not, exactly?

[Nua Corda]

N.
Taser shotguns can be fucking lethal.

Also, taser guns probably shouldn't be automatics.

Why not, exactly?

Because if taking one taser round is bad, being hit by a lot of them is worse. Especially because they're expensive as hell.

[Samozaryadnyastan]

By automatic, I mean semi as well.
If you suddenly find you need more than one round at all, you should probably be using plastic rounds or beanbags. Or live rounds, depending on the situation.

Taser is a niche weapon for subduing (not pacifying) a single opponent in a minor confrontation.
If you're holding a Saiga, you're probably expecting either a riot or firearm attack.

[Sevvania]

Before I start my post I want to make a point that I'm pretty unknowledgeable in gun mechanics.

I was wondering, though, what possibilities there were of a modern rifle along the style of the British Lee-Enfield SMLE. What I aim for are the looks of the Lee-Enfield with more up to date guts.

Any thoughts are gratefully received!

The Charlton Automatic Rifle may be just what you're looking for. I believe there was another variant with a less exposed receiver, but I forget the name of it. That may be something to look into as well.

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I've seen semi-auto conversions of the Lee-Enfield, the 1917 Enfield, Mausers, and Springfields. Were there any semi-auto conversions of the Mosin-Nagant?

[Nua Corda]

@Whoever was looking to modernize the Lee-Enfield's guts: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlton_Automatic_Rifle

I've seen semi-auto conversions of the Lee-Enfield, the 1917 Enfield, Mausers, and Springfields. Were there any semi-auto conversions of the Mosin-Nagant?

That thing hurts my brain.