Main Military Weapon of Your Country: Mod 7

[Nua Corda]

Except the Volcano shot weak-ass .22 rocket-balls, and was miserable at actually killing people.

.41 caliber Volcanic super-death machine of death making kills

Further investigation reveals that the author of my pistol book is an ass. But, the cartridges were still short and weak as hell, and the weapon unreliable. As cool as it is, revolvers won for a reason.

EDIT:

[Puzikas]

Ascetically, no order

C96
C93
M1911 and friends
Browning Hi-power
P.08
P38
PM

In terms of modern usefulness as a combat handgun, no order:
Glock 20
GSh-18
APB
M1911 and friends
Browning hi-power
FNX
PM

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Also, GLOCK? I thought we were friends. Besides, GLOCK's are Austrian, just like Hitler and Oprah Winfrey.

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Is there another modern, full sized handgun in 10x25?

[Nua Corda]

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Also, GLOCK? I thought we were friends. Besides, GLOCK's are Austrian, just like Hitler and Oprah Winfrey.

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The problem with the GLOCK 20 is the same as the problem with the GLOCK, except worse;

M1911s handle 10mm well because they're heavy. The weight of the gun tames the recoil. GLOCKs are so light that they go all over the place even in 9mm Pussy, let along 10mm Auto.

[Puzikas]

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Is there another modern, full sized handgun in 10x25?

The problem with the GLOCK 20 is the same as the problem with the GLOCK, except worse;

M1911s handle 10mm well because they're heavy. The weight of the gun tames the recoil. GLOCKs are so light that they go all over the place even in 9mm Pussy, let along 10mm Auto.

1911 series in 10mm auto tent to rip themselves apart due to the power.
I didn't have any issue with the recoil of the Glock-20 I shot. It was doable.

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

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Also, GLOCK? I thought we were friends. Besides, GLOCK's are Austrian, just like Hitler and Oprah Winfrey.

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Is there another modern, full sized handgun in 10x25?

Bren Ten is your friend.

[Puzikas]

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Bren Ten is your friend.

That was mass-produced.

[Nua Corda]

The problem with the GLOCK 20 is the same as the problem with the GLOCK, except worse;

M1911s handle 10mm well because they're heavy. The weight of the gun tames the recoil. GLOCKs are so light that they go all over the place even in 9mm Pussy, let along 10mm Auto.

1911 series in 10mm auto tent to rip themselves apart due to the power.
I didn't have any issue with the recoil of the Glock-20 I shot. It was doable.

Only converted .45s. Purpose-built 10mm frames have no problem.

GLOCKs jump around like a figity rabbit. It's not the recoil that's particularly harsh, so much as the muzzle climb/traversing that's annoying as hell for followup shots.

[Spreewerke]

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Also, GLOCK? I thought we were friends. Besides, GLOCK's are Austrian, just like Hitler and Oprah Winfrey.

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Is there another modern, full sized handgun in 10x25?

Mauser


AMT Longslide


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[Puzikas]

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Mauser


AMT Longslide


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Would shoot all of them.

[Idaho Conservatives]

Anyone on here have ever used or seen a gun finished with Dura Coat paint?

[Vareiln]

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Mauser


AMT Longslide


Tangfolio

Didn't AMT have metric fucktons of quality control problems?

[Ulfr-Reich]

Gasser Marine Revolver M-1870

[Spreewerke]

Mauser


AMT Longslide


Tangfolio

Didn't AMT have metric fucktons of quality control problems?

None that I am aware of, but that does not mean they are non-existent. They were basically the Kel-Tec of the 1980s: think up stuff "for the coolz!", promote it, and make few.

Anyone on here have ever used or seen a gun finished with Dura Coat paint?

Why do you ask?

[Puzikas]

Anyone on here have ever used or seen a gun finished with Dura Coat paint?

Yea.
It alright, I guess.

Its complete!

[Idaho Conservatives]

Anyone on here have ever used or seen a gun finished with Dura Coat paint?

Why do you ask?

Pretty pissed right now. I found out today that the cold blue refinish I applied to a Mauser, M44, and a Winchester .22 barrel these last summer are already starting to go. They all looked like a nice black when I done with 'em, but after five months just sitting in a safe, the finish on all three is starting to badly flake off and the barrels clearly look grey.

Fuckin' $5 gun blue!

I'm going to have to buy some extra strength blue, re-do all three, and pray that it is a little more permanent this time.

After asking around teh internets, folks have said that doing another cold blue will just lead to more disappointment, and they recommended Dura Coat as the best way to go and re-do a barrel without paying for a hot blue. Only problem is it's 40 bucks, I'm pathologically cheap, and I don't see what I could do with it that I couldn't do with a can of Krylon. Pretty much, I'd like to know if it passes the eyeball test in person or not.

[Spreewerke]

Why do you ask?

Pretty pissed right now. I found out today that the cold blue refinish I applied to a Mauser, M44, and a Winchester .22 barrel these last summer are already starting to go. They all looked like a nice black when I done with 'em, but after five months just sitting in a safe, the finish on all three is starting to badly flake off and the barrels clearly look grey.

Fuckin' $5 gun blue!

I'm going to have to buy some extra strength blue, re-do all three, and pray that it is a little more permanent this time.

After asking around teh internets, folks have said that doing another cold blue will just lead to more disappointment, and they recommended Dura Coat as the best way to go and re-do a barrel without paying for a hot blue. Only problem is it's 40 bucks, I'm pathologically cheap, and I don't see what I could do with it that I couldn't do with a can of Krylon. Pretty much, I'd like to know if it passes the eyeball test in person or not.

DuraCoat is heat-baked on and is nigh-indestructible. Rattle-can paint jobs can be scratched off with your fingernail. It will not resemble a bluing job, most likely, though.

[Idaho Conservatives]

After asking around teh internets, folks have said that doing another cold blue will just lead to more disappointment, and they recommended Dura Coat as the best way to go and re-do a barrel without paying for a hot blue. Only problem is it's 40 bucks, I'm pathologically cheap, and I don't see what I could do with it that I couldn't do with a can of Krylon. Pretty much, I'd like to know if it passes the eyeball test in person or not.

DuraCoat is heat-baked on and is nigh-indestructible. Rattle-can paint jobs can be scratched off with your fingernail. It will not resemble a bluing job, most likely, though.

Don't expect it to; these guns are no showpieces. So, good to hear that stuff is legit. Now the problem will be finding an oven big enough to fit a Gewehr 98 barrel...

[Spreewerke]

DuraCoat is heat-baked on and is nigh-indestructible. Rattle-can paint jobs can be scratched off with your fingernail. It will not resemble a bluing job, most likely, though.

Don't expect it to; these guns are no showpieces. So, good to hear that stuff is legit. Now the problem will be finding an oven big enough to fit a Gewehr 98 barrel...

I can't remember what temperature DuraCoat needs to cure, but I don't think Cerakote needs to be baked on (memory is a little hazy) and the end results are somewhat similar.

FAKE EDIT: Turns out, I had that backwards. DuraCoat does not need to be baked, but I think Cerakote does. http://duracoat-firearm-finishes.com/

[Idaho Conservatives]

Don't expect it to; these guns are no showpieces. So, good to hear that stuff is legit. Now the problem will be finding an oven big enough to fit a Gewehr 98 barrel...

I can't remember what temperature DuraCoat needs to cure, but I don't think Cerakote needs to be baked on (memory is a little hazy) and the end results are somewhat similar.

FAKE EDIT: Turns out, I had that backwards. DuraCoat does not need to be baked, but I think Cerakote does. http://duracoat-firearm-finishes.com/

Awesome. I think I'll just go out and nail a short steel tube with BBQ paint this weekend and see how that turns out. If it is bad as I expect, I'll probably pony up for the Dura Coat.

[Alimeria-]

Ruger Old Army best muzzleloading revolver after several proper military revolvers of the good ole days

[Spreewerke]

I can't remember what temperature DuraCoat needs to cure, but I don't think Cerakote needs to be baked on (memory is a little hazy) and the end results are somewhat similar.

FAKE EDIT: Turns out, I had that backwards. DuraCoat does not need to be baked, but I think Cerakote does. http://duracoat-firearm-finishes.com/

Awesome. I think I'll just go out and nail a short steel tube with BBQ paint this weekend and see how that turns out. If it is bad as I expect, I'll probably pony up for the Dura Coat.

A lot of people refinish SAIGAs with high-temp. engine paint. It closely resembles (almost an exact match) the finish applied by Arsenal/FIME, and, to an extent, Izhmash. It's pretty much a slightly gloss-black. They say it is fairly sturdy, but I imagine it is still no DuraCoat which was made specifically for firearms.

[Idaho Conservatives]

Awesome. I think I'll just go out and nail a short steel tube with BBQ paint this weekend and see how that turns out. If it is bad as I expect, I'll probably pony up for the Dura Coat.

A lot of people refinish SAIGAs with high-temp. engine paint. It closely resembles (almost an exact match) the finish applied by Arsenal/FIME, and, to an extent, Izhmash. It's pretty much a slightly gloss-black. They say it is fairly sturdy, but I imagine it is still no DuraCoat which was made specifically for firearms.

Thank you for telling me about this. The price looks right, so I'll go give that a shot as well.

[The Archangel Conglomerate]

Hey, I've got a question. What's the preferred intermediate cartridge: 5.45x39 or 7.62x39?

Both have their advantages. The 5.45 is light, allowing for greater am mounts of ammunition to be carried per trooper. It has a flatter trajectory, and a lower recoil. It even boasts decent wounding capabilities and armor penetration.

7.62, on the other hand... well its 7.62. It has (as far as I can tell) superior barrier penetration and possibly wounding potential.... and that's about all I can think of. Its big, its heavy and it'll really bugger your day.

Thoughts?

[Spreewerke]

Hey, I've got a question. What's the preferred intermediate cartridge: 5.45x39 or 7.62x39?

Both have their advantages. The 5.45 is light, allowing for greater am mounts of ammunition to be carried per trooper. It has a flatter trajectory, and a lower recoil. It even boasts decent wounding capabilities and armor penetration.

7.62, on the other hand... well its 7.62. It has (as far as I can tell) superior barrier penetration and possibly wounding potential.... and that's about all I can think of. Its big, its heavy and it'll really bugger your day.

Thoughts?

7.62x39mm, M67 BTFMJ cartridge design. Best of both.

[The Archangel Conglomerate]

Well then, that settles it. 7.62x39 it is.

Thanks Spree