Main Military Weapon of Your Country: Mod 7

[Yes Im Biop]

SuperGun:

Over-Under 12 gauge, but with left-right 7.62R.

Y/Y

Hell no

[Benomia]

SuperGun:

Over-Under 12 gauge, but with left-right 7.62R.

Y/Y

How are you going to aim the rifles?

New plan:

Over-under 7.62R, with left-right 12 gauge

[Yes Im Biop]

How are you going to aim the rifles?

New plan:

Over-under 7.62R, with left-right 12 gauge

Just use a Nock Gun with slugs

[Benomia]

New plan:

Over-under 7.62R, with left-right 12 gauge

Just use a Nock Gun with slugs

Because flintlock is vastly superior to...anything else.

EDIT:

The bottom left, but in 7.62R:

[Fordorsia]

Die Ubergavin!

(Image)

How are you not in the lead for next OP?

[Coltarin]

Repost

[Crookfur]

How are you going to aim the rifles?

New plan:

Over-under 7.62R, with left-right 12 gauge

been done.
Look up vierling guns, although those typically have 2 different rifle calibres (not that anything is fixed in the whacky world Drilings, vierlings and other combiantion guns).

I do love this one

http://www.fanzoj.com/en/gunroom/flagsh ... index.html

twin 12 gauge and twin 9.3x74R

[The Republic of Lanos]

Potential for 7.62x39mm FG42 in Spreewerke ICly. Also, our main anti-tank weapon is dogs with landmines strapped to their friggin' heads backs. We also armed Volkswagen Beetles with 1-2 MG42s. Will also be using "Goliath" remote-controlled vehicles.

This is all past-time IC, of course, but I am interested in seeing how I will manage to get this to evolve more and more for MT use (if I can modify rather than replace out-right up to modern-time, that would be awesome).

Badassery.

[Nua Corda]

Die Ubergavin!

[Crookfur]

SuperGun:

Over-Under 12 gauge, but with left-right 7.62R.

Y/Y

How are you going to aim the rifles?

Both rifle barrels and both shotgun barrels would be "regualted" i.e. alinged such they converge at a fixed distance from the gun.

its part of the reason combination guns or even twin barrel rifles are stupidly expensive

[Ziba Station]

Main military weapons are the following: (others are coming soon)
For close combat/vip protection/ police duties:
Nemesis-X Mod Z-'1
Type: Bullpup sub carbine/ sub machine gun
Caliber: 9.75x17 mm CET (Caseless electro-thermal)*
Length: 635 mm. //space version 825mm due to recoil buffer. sleeve//
Barell length: 14.2 inches / 360mm
Muzzle energy:860-2700 joules (2440 joules is the standard setting)

Rate of fire: Mechanical rete of fire 955 rpm at max energy 795rpm at minimum energy
Actual rate of fire: settable between 540 to 790 rpm below 1500 joules 600 to 950 rpm at above 1500 joules
Fire modes : two stage trigger, first setting SA-only, second semi auto/ four round bursts, third 2 round burst/ full auto
(bursts are fired at 900 rpm as are the first two rounds of full auto fullauto is 660rpm afterwards)

Effective range 280 meters
Capacity: 24 rounds standard, 41 round quadstacks available.
Felt recoil: .40 SW equivalent at standard setting (2440 joules) Space version: paint ball gun.
Mass: 3700g loaded sapce version 7500 g loaded.

The Z-1 is a license-built improved version of the nemesis-X manufactured by Zivarms since 2381. It is the main cqb weapon of all Zivan armed services. It is a bullpup electro thermal firearm that feeds from 24 rounds staggered column box magazine/capacitor bank combined units. It has great controllability,superb reliability and excellent stopping power.
It is capable of firing subsonic munitions. Emergency ejection happens trough the magazine well.
It features a full length tactical rail on top and on the forearm and two short ones on the sides of the forearms.
It also has an automatic bolt pull back mechanism that acts as a safety too. It is a lever outside and along the trigger guard which are reachable via the index finger when it is in safe position( aka extended outside the trigger guard). This allows faster deployment than a handgun which is important for police duty. They are typically used with a 2.7x-4x holographic scope and a red dot mounted atop that.
Controlls are fully ambidextrous, ejection is a thing of the past.

Aesthetics: Very simple and elegant like a smoothed out C-TAR or best analogy is a bullpup AA-12 scaled down to SMG size, with slightly curved magazines and the aforementioned rails. Most are pure black in color but camouflage is available. Pics coming in a few months i started 3d modelling just now. Space version is similar but really bulky it si a big sleeve in which the main assembly recoils against a few buffers and counter recoil fore is exerted via small thursters.

standard ammo Is APCOT (armour piercing composite open tip) which is a jacketed full copper hollow point, with a tungsten carbide penetrator rod inside, and a plastic ballistic tip, The cavity is filled with wood pulp. It has greater penetraton and wounding properties caonaperd to FMJ, but is less penetrartive than satndard AP and less damaging than normal JHP.

Drawbacks: Cost.

*Electro thermal chemical weapons work , with a telescopic caseless round made form explosive aquapolymer propellant, which has a saline solution capsule in its core. This is heated by an electric spark an turned into plasma. Propelling fore comes form the force of the plasma, and the chemical propellant. Since the plasma expand sinside the propellant block it salms it against he chamber walls creating great pressure and incresing the efficiency of burning. Thus the stronger is the initial spark the greater the muzzle energy is.
This allows the weapon to utilize the greater energy density of modern nanocapacitor banks, whilst retaining all the advantages a kinetic weapon has over lasers, as well as widely tunable kinetic energy and rate of fire.

What do you think?

[The Advancers]

The KRS-221/KA-509b "Lanistere" Close Quarters Assault Weapon, commonly known as the Shock Rifle, fills the shotgun role in the Corporate military. It's a heavy, bulky weapon, designed to punch through light cover, doors, and targets alike. It fires unique 25mm x 60mm canister rounds, which I'll discuss shortly.

Image

The Shock Rifle is distinct from most shotguns in that it is, in fact, a rifle. This does not improve its accuracy; rather, it's a concurrence of designs. The rifling features very pronounced ridges compared to normal rifling, which are used to shred the casing of the canister round as it's fired, releasing the payload of flechettes, micro-explosives, or other suitable shot. This process has the added advantage of turning the casing into extra shrapnel at particularly close ranges.

The downside of this deep rifling is that it renders the Shock Rifle incompatible with standard rounds, as it's not a good idea to shred the outer casing of a normal penetrator or explosive round. However, adaptor casings are available for 20mm x 50mm Multirole Utility rounds, which are powered-payload shells that shed their casing in flight anyway.

One last unusual feature of the Shock Rifle is that due to its intended combat environment, it's the only Corporate-issue weapon to use a bayonet mounted in the traditional position, rather than on the grip-guard. (You may note it seems short in the picture - this is because, like the guard-mounted blade on the T-22 GPR, it's a smart extension monoblade. In the picture, it's retracted.)



P.S. I really do appreciate feedback on this stuff - I won't know what I'm doing wrong without it! I'm still interested in ergonomics feedback regarding the magazine positioning on the T-22, in particular.

P.P.S. I'm rather surprised at the lack of comment on the Automag, not because I thought it was particularly good, but because an automatic dual-ejecting pistol is exactly the kind of thing that usually inspires confusion and/or disgust...and I do so love talking through this sort of thing

[Veceria]

Needs to into double-barreled, select fire, metal storm.

gogogo

Triple barrel shotgun

20+12+10 gauge

You mean, a so-called Drilling? I've only seen some with 2 barrels for shotgun shells, and one for normal cartridges. Guess one with 3x shotshell exists too.
Seriously, those are just normal hunting rifles. Don't you American have that stuff too?

[Nua Corda]

I think I'll make a flock of AeroGavins flying in formation, shitting rainbows and paratroopers

[A Hooloovoo]

I think I'll make a flock of AeroGavins flying in formation, shitting rainbows and paratroopers

Send it to Sparky.

I think he'd have a Gavin-gasm.

[Bajireyn]

Die Ubergavin!

(Image)

Email that to Mike Sparks and see what happens.

And then post any responses here.

[Yes Im Biop]

Die Ubergavin!

(Image)

Email that to Mike Sparks and see what happens.

And then post any responses here.

Why do I feel a new Combatforum's thing coming soon?

[Crookfur]

Main military weapons are the following: (others are coming soon)
For close combat/vip protection/ police duties:
Nemesis-X Mod Z-'1
Type: Bullpup sub carbine/ sub machine gun
Caliber: 9.75x17 mm CET (Caseless electro-thermal)*
Length: 635 mm. //space version 825mm due to recoil buffer. sleeve//
Barell length: 14.2 inches / 360mm
Muzzle energy:860-2700 joules (2440 joules is the standard setting)

Rate of fire: Mechanical rete of fire 955 rpm at max energy 795rpm at minimum energy
Actual rate of fire: settable between 540 to 790 rpm below 1500 joules 600 to 950 rpm at above 1500 joules
Fire modes : two stage trigger, first setting SA-only, second semi auto/ four round bursts, third 2 round burst/ full auto
(bursts are fired at 900 rpm as are the first two rounds of full auto fullauto is 660rpm afterwards)

Effective range 280 meters
Capacity: 24 rounds standard, 41 round quadstacks available.
Felt recoil: .40 SW equivalent at standard setting (2440 joules) Space version: paint ball gun.
Mass: 3700g loaded sapce version 7500 g loaded.

The Z-1 is a license-built improved version of the nemesis-X manufactured by Zivarms since 2381. It is the main cqb weapon of all Zivan armed services. It is a bullpup electro thermal firearm that feeds from 24 rounds staggered column box magazine/capacitor bank combined units. It has great controllability,superb reliability and excellent stopping power.
It is capable of firing subsonic munitions. Emergency ejection happens trough the magazine well.
It features a full length tactical rail on top and on the forearm and two short ones on the sides of the forearms.
It also has an automatic bolt pull back mechanism that acts as a safety too. It is a lever outside and along the trigger guard which are reachable via the index finger when it is in safe position( aka extended outside the trigger guard). This allows faster deployment than a handgun which is important for police duty. They are typically used with a 2.7x-4x holographic scope and a red dot mounted atop that.
Controlls are fully ambidextrous, ejection is a thing of the past.

Aesthetics: Very simple and elegant like a smoothed out C-TAR or best analogy is a bullpup AA-12 scaled down to SMG size, with slightly curved magazines and the aforementioned rails. Most are pure black in color but camouflage is available. Pics coming in a few months i started 3d modelling just now. Space version is similar but really bulky it si a big sleeve in which the main assembly recoils against a few buffers and counter recoil fore is exerted via small thursters.

standard ammo Is APCOT (armour piercing composite open tip) which is a jacketed full copper hollow point, with a tungsten carbide penetrator rod inside, and a plastic ballistic tip, The cavity is filled with wood pulp. It has greater penetraton and wounding properties caonaperd to FMJ, but is less penetrartive than satndard AP and less damaging than normal JHP.

Drawbacks: Cost.

*Electro thermal chemical weapons work , with a telescopic caseless round made form explosive aquapolymer propellant, which has a saline solution capsule in its core. This is heated by an electric spark an turned into plasma. Propelling fore comes form the force of the plasma, and the chemical propellant. Since the plasma expand sinside the propellant block it salms it against he chamber walls creating great pressure and incresing the efficiency of burning. Thus the stronger is the initial spark the greater the muzzle energy is.
This allows the weapon to utilize the greater energy density of modern nanocapacitor banks, whilst retaining all the advantages a kinetic weapon has over lasers, as well as widely tunable kinetic energy and rate of fire.

Isn't it beautiful?

not particulary.


Immediate issues:

Ammo need to be longer, there is a good chance that your actual slugs themselves would be getting on for 15-20mm long so you proabably want at least 25mm long if telescoped.

Recoil claims seem very ambiteous, doubly so given that any recoil control attempts appear for the "sapce version".

magazines are unlikely to be curve if you are using telescoped ammo.

What on earth are you filling with wood pulp on the ammo, the only cavity should be the hollow point and its filled with the ballsitic tip...

[Benomia]

HOW DID I KNOT NO ABOUT THIS BEFORE

[Aqizithiuda]

I think I'll make a flock of AeroGavins flying in formation, shitting rainbows and paratroopers

Just when I thought the Gavin couldn't get any better...

[Ziba Station]

Main military weapons are the following: (others are coming soon)
F


Immediate issues:

Ammo need to be longer, there is a good chance that your actual slugs themselves would be getting on for 15-20mm long so you proabably want at least 25mm long if telescoped.

Recoil claims seem very ambiteous, doubly so given that any recoil control attempts appear for the "sapce version".

magazines are unlikely to be curve if you are using telescoped ammo.

What on earth are you filling with wood pulp on the ammo, the only cavity should be the hollow point and its filled with the ballsitic tip...

Ok With the ammo you are right ,25mm then. Magazines are curved to be a tad shorter and it is a really slight curve, less curved than a STANAG. The balistic cap consists of plastic skin and wood pulp filling. I stole the idea from japanese WWII incendiary munitions it works.
Well this is Sci- fi stuff rheological smart fluids nano engineered springs, production stared in 2381... .40SW(but +p) it is. It is about 68 %recoil reduction not so unbelievable in 400 years time. In the space vesrion the whole assembly recoils in a larger even more high-tech multi tier reduction system it is not so unbelievable also.
Ziba Station is a freaking large space station-citystate after all.

[Smertolina]

In the Principality of Smertolina, during and since the civil war to restore the monarchy, when new units of Popular Militia were formed, they were outfitted with whatever the cheapest 7.62x39mm AK knockoff was available in large quantities at the time. Now that Smertolina is stable and prosperous, permanent regular army units are gradually being upgraded to HK417s.

[Eylandia]

Before I start my post I want to make a point that I'm pretty unknowledgeable in gun mechanics.

I was wondering, though, what possibilities there were of a modern rifle along the style of the British Lee-Enfield SMLE. What I aim for are the looks of the Lee-Enfield with more up to date guts.

Any thoughts are gratefully received!

[Idaho Conservatives]

Before I start my post I want to make a point that I'm pretty unknowledgeable in gun mechanics.

I was wondering, though, what possibilities there were of a modern rifle along the style of the British Lee-Enfield SMLE. What I aim for are the looks of the Lee-Enfield with more up to date guts.

Any thoughts are gratefully received!

You mean semi/full auto?

[Eylandia]

Before I start my post I want to make a point that I'm pretty unknowledgeable in gun mechanics.

I was wondering, though, what possibilities there were of a modern rifle along the style of the British Lee-Enfield SMLE. What I aim for are the looks of the Lee-Enfield with more up to date guts.

Any thoughts are gratefully received!

You mean semi/full auto?

Semi is my preference, but if auto is possible I'd be interested to know.