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Postby Transnapastain » Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:13 pm

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You're thinking too far ahead

I've got plans for 93 and 94, too . aaaaaand 95 and its not the one you came up with. :P

For 93!!!!!!
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Postby Yes Im Biop » Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:14 pm

Transnapastain wrote:
Yes Im Biop wrote:
But then you could cut your hand.
Does anyone have a picture of the .955 Rifle? Cause that must be Page 95 top post


You're thinking too far ahead

I've got plans for 93 and 94, too . aaaaaand 95 and its not the one you came up with. :P


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Postby North Bejikistan » Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:29 pm

My nation was just conceived a few weeks ago. However, we are currently researching new military technologies for our armies. As of right now this is the main weapon for our troops.

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It is a variant of the Russian made AKM, chambered in 7.62x39 and is a select-fire rifle. We modified the gas system to run gas through the front sight and replaced the wood furniture with OD Green polymer furniture.
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Postby Kouralia » Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:30 pm

Transnapastain wrote:
Yes Im Biop wrote:
But then you could cut your hand.
Does anyone have a picture of the .955 Rifle? Cause that must be Page 95 top post


You're thinking too far ahead

I've got plans for 93 and 94, too . aaaaaand 95 and its not the one you came up with. :P

For 93!!!!!!

I've got plans for 96, 115 and 118.

:P

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Postby Aqizithiuda » Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:46 pm

Aqizithiuda wrote:The current draft of the 1895 assault rifle:

Specifications
Weight: 4.6 kg unloaded/5.4kg fully loaded
Length: 1050mm
Barrel length: 540mm
Cartridge: 6.5x50mm Freka
Action: Short stroke, flapper locked
Rate of fire: 600 rounds/minute
Muzzle velocity:

700m/s (original 160gr 1895 loading)
740 m/s (1899 120gr FMJBT loading)
800 m/s (1923 120gr FMJBT loading)

Effective range: 300 metres
Feed system: 20 round detachable box magazine

Introduction

The Frekagiwar of 1895, better known as the FG 95 is perhaps the first assault rifle to be accepted into service and widely issued by any nation, making it one of the most important firearms developments of the late 19th century. Serving from 1895 to 1950, it is still used by many members of the civilian population for hunting and target shooting, while other surplus rifles are sought after by collectors and museums. Still in use in some areas of the world today, it is also the oldest assault rifle to still be in active service, having been used in the service of various militaries around the world for 118 years. As such, it can be considered the most influential assault rifle of all time.

History

The FG 95 can be said to have it's origins in the patent filed in 1870 by a Swede named Friberg. The patent was about a bolt with retractable locking lugs, which would eventually evolve into the flappers used by the FG 95. However, the first recorded studies into the action used the original design. The document, dated the 18th of May 1873, discusses the potential of the locking system for use in a self loading firearm. It concludes that, while having much potential, current cartridges cause too much fouling for the weapon to ever be accurate, and that a satisfactory method of unlocking the bolt had yet to be found. The idea was shelved for the time being, but was never fully forgotten by the priests of Frauja.

It was not until 1886 and the introduction of the first successful military cartridge using smokeless powder - the French 8mm Lebel cartridge - that the idea of retractable lugs was revived, as the world scrambled to take advantage of this new development. In Triggairþa, some priests of Frauja began to develop their own smokeless powder while others began to develop a new rifle in collaboration with the military order of Fraūw and advisers from the cult of Woþinas. It was soon decided to not only abandon the old ideals of single shot rifles with slow, large caliber bullets, but to also pass over the current trend of bolt action rifles. By 1888, it had been decided to arm soldiers with self loading rifles chambered in a small, fast bullet and supported at a platoon or company level with machine guns firing a large caliber bullet at ranges beyond what the rifles were expected to perform, which was under 300 metres, given past experiences and exhaustive studies of local terrain.

Work on a self loading rifle had been undertaken on a private basis by several of the priests ever since 1884 and the development of Poudre B, and thus had a head start over their rivals both within and outside of the order. One of these priests, Tigōþragjan, had been working with the Friberg system since 1885, and had actually produced a prototype chambered in 8mm Lebel in 1887, before the decision to even develop a semi-automatic rifle had been official reached. It was a complicated short recoil operated design with very little similarity with the FG 95, but the bolt design was beginning to resemble that of the FG 95.

Impressed by Tigōþragjōs progress, the committee teamed him up with the experienced firearms designer Galdranbāl and Lt. Rōfpliht, an infantry officer whose own firearm design was considered quite advanced. The end result was a self loading rifle that incorporated Tigōþragjōs bolt and Rōfplihtōs short stroke gas system. Lighter and easier to produce than either designer's previous designs thanks to improvements and suggestions made by Galdranbāl, it was considered quite promising. The first prototype in 1890 proved to have superior reliability and cost than competing designs, but was still considered too unreliable and inaccurate to be used as a primary service rifle.

Several redesigns later, the FG 95 had evolved into an assault rifle, with the unsolicited ability to fire on fully automatic being added to the second prototype provided for testing in 1893. At first the military was concerned about troops wasting ammunition, however, they were soon convinced by Galdranbāl and Rōfpliht that the select fire capability was of use and that it wouldn't be abused by well trained soldiers. In truth, the military didn't need much convincing, as the idea of turning every soldier into a machine gunner was quite appealing, even if that idea was never actually used. Nonetheless, the fully automatic setting gave the rifle it's name: Frekagiwar, the "greedy firearm". All future assault rifles would be referred to by this name, in the finest traditions of self-mocking humour.

The three years of extensive development and private tests had paid off, and the prototype exceeded expectations. It was accurate, reliable under all conditions and provided soldiers with such an increase in firepower that enemy nations armed with bolt action rifles would be badly disadvantaged. The result was the FG 95 being formally adopted and first issued in 1895.

Design

The FG 95 is a gas operated, short stroke, flapper locked rifle and, as such uses a bolt with two flappers which are pushed out from the bolt by the shape of the firing pin when the trigger is pulled. These flappers lock into recesses in the lower receiver and prevent any rearwards movement of the bolt following the firing of the round. The location of the flappers and their slots at the rear of the bolt results in them experiencing compressional forces rather than the shear forces of the flappers in the G41 rifle. While this doesn't necessarily result in a more reliable weapon, it does allow for better flapper life if they aren't machined to within standard dimensions.

After each round has been fired, a portion of their propellant gases is diverted into a gas tube, where they act on a piston. This piston then taps the bolt carrier, which continues to move rearward due to the momentum imparted by the piston. The bolt carrier has an extrusion which slots into a hole in the firing pin. As the bolt carrier moves backwards, it pushes the firing pin backwards as well, allowing the flappers to retract into the bolt and for the bolt to travel rearwards as well. A recoil spring then returns the bolt to its original position, stripping a round from the magazine as it does so. A bolt hold open device prevents the bolt from returning to battery if the magazine is empty.


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Postby Ashigawa » Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:23 pm

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The Arisaka Type 78 Select-Fire Assault Rifle is the standard rifle of the Ashigawan Shogunate and is issued to every Ashigaru Rifleman. It is chambered in 7.7×58mm Arisaka. (I have not completed work on this project yet; as a note.)

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Postby El Cuscatlan » Fri Dec 28, 2012 2:11 pm

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Postby Gvozdevsk » Fri Dec 28, 2012 2:14 pm

If I'm already issuing a Galil AR with an RIS kit, is there any point to switching over to the Galil ACE?

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Postby Aqizithiuda » Fri Dec 28, 2012 2:17 pm

Gvozdevsk wrote:If I'm already issuing a Galil AR with an RIS kit, is there any point to switching over to the Galil ACE?


You'll get a lighter, lower recoil weapon.
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Postby Crookfur » Fri Dec 28, 2012 3:53 pm

Aqizithiuda wrote:
Gvozdevsk wrote:If I'm already issuing a Galil AR with an RIS kit, is there any point to switching over to the Galil ACE?


You'll get a lighter, lower recoil weapon.


well about of 0.5kg weight saving (actually more if you take into account a third party RIS) for going from the Galil AR to the ACE 23, so you might actually notice slightly more recoil on the newer version (same cartridge but lighter gun).

Other than that it really depends on how much you want ambidextrous controls and a atelescoping stock.


A sudden switch would proabably be best avoided but if you existing stock of galils are reaching the end of thier life it would make sense to start purchasing batches of ACEs as you start retiring the current weapons.
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Postby Robbie mintz » Fri Dec 28, 2012 5:08 pm

my main weapon is the M4-Cobra mini gun.

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Postby Aqizithiuda » Fri Dec 28, 2012 5:12 pm

Robbie mintz wrote:my main weapon is the M4-Cobra mini gun.


Uh huh. :roll:
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Postby Benomia » Fri Dec 28, 2012 5:15 pm

Yep. Just like my main sidearm is the Vulcan.
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Postby The Zeonic States » Fri Dec 28, 2012 5:55 pm

Robbie mintz wrote:my main weapon is the M4-Cobra mini gun.


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Postby Gvozdevsk » Fri Dec 28, 2012 6:03 pm

Crookfur wrote:
well about of 0.5kg weight saving (actually more if you take into account a third party RIS) for going from the Galil AR to the ACE 23, so you might actually notice slightly more recoil on the newer version (same cartridge but lighter gun).

Other than that it really depends on how much you want ambidextrous controls and a atelescoping stock.


A sudden switch would proabably be best avoided but if you existing stock of galils are reaching the end of thier life it would make sense to start purchasing batches of ACEs as you start retiring the current weapons.


The current Galil AR was adopted in 1996 and the RIS upgrade was applied in 2006. I'd say there's still plenty of life left in them. Maybe I could issue the ACEs to some elite units though.
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Postby Hellofad » Fri Dec 28, 2012 6:42 pm

The main weapon used by the Hellofdian Armed forces (HAF) is an L8A2 with collapsible stock and ACOG scope
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Postby Aqizithiuda » Fri Dec 28, 2012 6:47 pm

Hellofad wrote:The main weapon used by the Hellofdian Armed forces (HAF) is an L8A2 with collapsible stock and ACOG scope
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/401/myweapongb.jpg/](Image)[/URL]


Seriously? A bullpup with a collapsible stock? Seriously?

The rifle also seems to be lacking an ACOG sight, actual, decent magazine and properly attached grenade launcher.

(Okay, so Hurty's bullpup has a collapsible stock, but at least he's thought about it and found a way to make it practical)
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Postby Benomia » Fri Dec 28, 2012 6:48 pm

Hellofad wrote:The main weapon used by the Hellofdian Armed forces (HAF) is an L8A2 with collapsible stock and ACOG scope
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/401/myweapongb.jpg/](Image)[/URL]

Why is the entire round coming out of the barrel?
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Postby Algaesea » Fri Dec 28, 2012 7:02 pm

Benomia wrote:
Hellofad wrote:The main weapon used by the Hellofdian Armed forces (HAF) is an L8A2 with collapsible stock and ACOG scope
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/401/myweapongb.jpg/](Image)[/URL]

Why is the entire round coming out of the barrel?

Because it's Pimp My Gun. :p
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Postby Hurtful Thoughts » Fri Dec 28, 2012 7:38 pm

Hellofad wrote:The main weapon used by the Hellofdian Armed forces (HAF) is an L8A2 with collapsible stock and ACOG scope
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My LAR-655 would like to have a word with you.

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Postby Yes Im Biop » Fri Dec 28, 2012 10:36 pm

Benomia wrote:Yep. Just like my main sidearm is the Vulcan.


Compensating for something?
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Postby Aqizithiuda » Fri Dec 28, 2012 10:46 pm

Yes Im Biop wrote:
Benomia wrote:Yep. Just like my main sidearm is the Vulcan.


Compensating for something?


I think that was sarcasm, Biop.
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Postby Spreewerke » Fri Dec 28, 2012 10:50 pm

North Bejikistan wrote:My nation was just conceived a few weeks ago. However, we are currently researching new military technologies for our armies. As of right now this is the main weapon for our troops.

(Image)

It is a variant of the Russian made AKM, chambered in 7.62x39 and is a select-fire rifle. We modified the gas system to run gas through the front sight and replaced the wood furniture with OD Green polymer furniture.


So it's a slightly lower-quality AK-104?



Also editing to add this video: apologies in advance for bringing politics into this.

It would appear that things have gone beyond pants-on-head retarded. We have reached condoms-on-toes levels. Apparently, anything with a detachable magazine will be considered an assault weapon, regardless of magazine size. This effectively bans the Ruger 10/22 semi-automatic rifle.


So, yeah: all ye' Stateside, please write your appropriate representatives and tell them just how stupid this law is.
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Postby Puzikas » Fri Dec 28, 2012 11:54 pm

Spreewerke wrote:
North Bejikistan wrote:My nation was just conceived a few weeks ago. However, we are currently researching new military technologies for our armies. As of right now this is the main weapon for our troops.

(Image)

It is a variant of the Russian made AKM, chambered in 7.62x39 and is a select-fire rifle. We modified the gas system to run gas through the front sight and replaced the wood furniture with OD Green polymer furniture.


So it's a slightly lower-quality AK-104?



Also editing to add this video: apologies in advance for bringing politics into this.

It would appear that things have gone beyond pants-on-head retarded. We have reached condoms-on-toes levels. Apparently, anything with a detachable magazine will be considered an assault weapon, regardless of magazine size. This effectively bans the Ruger 10/22 semi-automatic rifle.


So, yeah: all ye' Stateside, please write your appropriate representatives and tell them just how stupid this law is.


Condom on toes?
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Postby Aqizithiuda » Sat Dec 29, 2012 12:03 am

Spreewerke wrote:
North Bejikistan wrote:My nation was just conceived a few weeks ago. However, we are currently researching new military technologies for our armies. As of right now this is the main weapon for our troops.

(Image)

It is a variant of the Russian made AKM, chambered in 7.62x39 and is a select-fire rifle. We modified the gas system to run gas through the front sight and replaced the wood furniture with OD Green polymer furniture.


So it's a slightly lower-quality AK-104?



Also editing to add this video: apologies in advance for bringing politics into this.

It would appear that things have gone beyond pants-on-head retarded. We have reached condoms-on-toes levels. Apparently, anything with a detachable magazine will be considered an assault weapon, regardless of magazine size. This effectively bans the Ruger 10/22 semi-automatic rifle.


So, yeah: all ye' Stateside, please write your appropriate representatives and tell them just how stupid this law is.


*sigh*

Hopefully the government of America is sen...

Oh, fuck it. You're all screwed.
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