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Postby The Caldari Union » Fri Nov 30, 2012 7:19 am

what is the status of anarchy in your nation? how are anarchists treated?

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Postby Varijnland » Fri Nov 30, 2012 8:13 am

Anarchists are treated like the children they are, they are ridiculed, laughed at and not taken seriously. When they get violent, we beat them back down to reality.

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Postby Novus Niciae » Fri Nov 30, 2012 8:18 am

The Caldari Union wrote:what is the status of anarchy in your nation? how are anarchists treated?

We arbor anarchy, we are a highly ordered and structured society that values freedom and we see the 'law of the jungle' system that anarchists advocate as being potentially highly restrictive to the personal freedoms of the common people since any thug in an anarchist system can do what they like with zero consequences providing they are the strongest.

However anarchists are allowed to non violently express their point of view providing they do not advocate committing any crime in the process of doing so.
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Postby Democratic Koyro » Fri Nov 30, 2012 8:20 am

Anarchist thought is viewed as a sub-human set of beliefs, and the evidence of an underdeveloped mind. Anarchists are often used as human guinea pigs for chemical and medical experimentation, the results of which usually result in a horrific, painful and a long drawn out death for the anarchist. State Security Agency members are ordered to ensure that sub-human anarchist vermin suffer long, painful deaths. Many are tortured to death in the pursuit of new "techniques". The most common method of execution for the anarchist is to be driven into the depth of a forest, and left, bound and gagged with mortal wounds. All records of their existence are destroyed and friends or family members of Anarchists recieve life imprisonment or execution to stop the disease from spreading.
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Postby Vallermoore » Fri Nov 30, 2012 8:51 am

Violent ones are punished and non violent ones gently laughed at.

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Postby Sidhae » Fri Nov 30, 2012 8:56 am

Anarchy is a thing for rebellious human teenagers. No Sidh would ever take something like that seriously, and provided anyone did, the Urban Security would quickly remind him of the error of opposing the current "archy".

The closest thing to anarchists in the Imperium are the Freelancers with their very liberal interpretation of Imperial laws, but even they never go as far as to call for abolition of state, and frankly, most Sidhae whose opinions matter (i.e., Clan members) regard them as borderline criminals and the dregs of Sidh society rather than followers of a political ideology. Which is in fact true, a Freelancer being distinct from the regular Sidh by being apolitical rather than holding a particular political stance.
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Postby Free Tristania » Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:02 am

Varijnland wrote:Anarchists are treated like the children they are, they are ridiculed, laughed at and not taken seriously. When they get violent, we beat them back down to reality.

And this is how we deal with them too.
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Postby Neo Prutenia » Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:29 am

The Caldari Union wrote:What is the status of anarchy in your nation?


One of the key ideologies of Prut culture and political organisation. Prut Republicanism is, among other ideas, based upon anarchism. Specifically, anarchism in the classical sense, "absence of a ruler", is the main thought behind it. Anarchy is considered a positive, natural, and desirable form of political and societal organisation, and in the context of Prut Republicanism, it implies a high degree of cohesion, order, communication, consensus, and lack of coercion. Prut do maintain a certain degree of political syncretism and in general practise a form of anarchy that is compatible with the principles of meritocracy, cosmopolitanism, and communitarianism.

Popular or democratic anarchy is not necessarily practised, but does have supporters and some traction in Prut society. Other types of anarchy are also present, but don't have as much clout, tradition among the populace, or a large support base. Individual anarchism, and illegalism, are tolerated on a case by case basis, but "anarchs" as opposed to "anarchists" can face some serious repercussions for harming others. Anarchy is never associated with lawlessness and/or chaos among the Prut peoples, but quite the opposite.

The Caldari Union wrote:How are anarchists treated?


Same as the supporters of any other political or other ideology. The Prut aren't by necessity a discriminatory society. Everyone is welcome to hold any beliefs he deems desirable, with the implicit understanding that everyone else has the same right. Despite our traditional ties with anarchism, and it being one of our ideological foundations, anarchists aren't treated better or worse in a societal and/or legal sense. Rarely does someone identify as a pure anarchist-only, as such dogmatic individuals would be regarded as an oddity among Prut. Same goes, in example for socialist-only, or monarchist-only types; most people hold to syncretic beliefs and ideologies, so it's more likely an "anarchists" would be judged by his secondary, tertiary, and/or quaternary stances, if judged at all.
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Postby Kvatchdom » Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:58 am

Anarchists are treated no differently from any other person, and they have personal protection in their protests to ensure nobody gets hurt. They've formed some of their own parties, however failing to gain the needed support to enter the parliament. They are hoping to enter at least one independent in the next parliamentary election.

Majority of Kvatchdomian anarchists are communists, but there are a few groups of anarcho-capitalists and syncretic anarchists.
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Postby Veceria » Fri Nov 30, 2012 10:17 am

There are very few Anarchists here. Most people understand that the current system works better, though.
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Postby Zokoria » Fri Nov 30, 2012 10:20 am

Anarchism is considered as a subversive, dangerous, evil ideology that is extremely frowned upon and hated by most Zokorians. Whether they're violent or not, the police (as well as the secret police) would take care of these scumbags by brutal, yet lethal force.

Anyways, violent anarchists get shot immediately, while the non-violent ones are arrested without a fair trial and immediately executed, on charges of treason and subversive activities.
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Postby Victorious Decepticons » Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:53 pm

What is the status of anarchy in your nation?
That depends on the definition in place. The idea of a total lack of government - with no other connotations - is quite appealing to most Decepticons, though they don't dare to say so. The big reason we put up with having a government is that the Decepticon Military is a quite handy way to deter anyone who sends warships to try to get their oil back, and Leader Megatron is the one who makes them into a powerful fighting force.

Another reason we tolerate the government is that it has become quite proficient at getting infrastructure projects done - correctly and on time, too. We tried using private industry for this aspect before, but it failed hard. When all of your private industry is made up of Decepticons who'll gladly take the contract money and run, nationalizing critical functions is pretty much the only solution. Still, some did revolt on Leader Megatron when he pulled all infrastructure maintenance under the government's roof, calling the change "un-Decepticon" and "treasonous."

The communist form of anarchy, where people form communities, work together, and share with everyone, is totally abhorred. Decepticons anarchists don't want to get rid of the government so they can share more. Quite the opposite!

How are anarchists treated?

Leader Megatron, obviously, doesn't like anyone saying that his government should be abolished. Those without the common sense to realize that will find themselves swimming in the nearest slag pit courtesy of Domestic Intelligence. This is why no one dares to admit to supporting anarchy.

[quote="Novus Niciae";p="11840657"]... any thug in an anarchist system can do what they like with zero consequences providing they are the strongest.
/quote]
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Fortunately for us, Megatron is also a competent government leader as well as a war chief, so the end result is generally pretty good. As for the lack of consequences, every Decepticon considers it a right to be able to do as he likes so long as no one can kick his ass for it. You wouldn't last long around here if you proposed any restrictions on that.
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Postby Dinahia » Fri Nov 30, 2012 1:05 pm

Dinahia views them as a cancer on the nation, and therefore removes them. They are usually locked up in mental hospitals to keep them from influencing others with their ideas, locked up in prison, or simply incinerated dead or alive with the corpses of the deceased.
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Postby Unified Christianity » Fri Nov 30, 2012 1:31 pm

Varijnland wrote:Anarchists are treated like the children they are, they are ridiculed, laughed at and not taken seriously. When they get violent, we beat them back down to reality.

This pretty much.

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Postby Geadland » Fri Nov 30, 2012 1:41 pm

It is legal to support anarchism but it's a widely unpopular idealogy. During the late 19th century, there were several anarchist terrorist attacks, including an assassination attempt on Prime Minister Kristjan Borland in 1892. As a result, the government clamped down on armed anarchist groups. Support for anarchism later increased in the 1970s, especially amongst the New Left and the punk movement, but it never translated into a political force. The largest Anarchist movement today is the Anarchist Party, which took 0.1% of the vote in the most recent election.
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Postby Saurisisia » Fri Nov 30, 2012 5:59 pm

All types are legal minus Anarcho-Communism (obviously), though Anarchism in general is a very unpopular ideology here. We recognize the importance of limited government over big or no government.
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Postby Karosyvk » Fri Nov 30, 2012 6:18 pm

Anarchists? What anarchists?

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Postby Auzkhia » Fri Nov 30, 2012 6:20 pm

Varijnland wrote:Anarchists are treated like the children they are, they are ridiculed, laughed at and not taken seriously. When they get violent, we beat them back down to reality.

^This
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Postby The Occident » Fri Nov 30, 2012 6:23 pm

There are nearly no anarchists at all here. With progressive social and political policies and with politicans who actually live up up the standards of morality and ethics they are held to, anarchism is nearly nonexistent. YES, we have the occasional nutbag or two, but only one person has ever been reprimanded for threatening the Federal government, and no one has ever had to serve jail time for anarchism.

The general concensus among citizens is that not having a government or any kind of power heirarchy COMPLETELY defeats the purpose of attempting to maintain a civilization.

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Postby Israslovakahzerbajan » Fri Nov 30, 2012 6:26 pm

Chaotic dissidents are beaten by the Royal Ministry of State Security and the police until they embrace the fact that a firm government keeps order.
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Postby The Multiversal Species Alliance » Fri Nov 30, 2012 6:27 pm

Every political, economic, and social ideolgy is given it's own virtual forum here, Anarchists are no exception. These forums are considered primarily private, and as such are not subject to the hate speech aspect of the Silver Law, Anarchists may say whatever they want in these forums, provided they don't advocate violence.
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Postby Ygganda » Fri Nov 30, 2012 6:31 pm

If they are non-violent, we leave them alone, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. There is in fact an Anarchist Party whose candidates promise not to participate in the government if elected, but one has never been elected before.
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Postby Meryuma » Fri Nov 30, 2012 6:40 pm

We're an anarchist nation.

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The Caldari Union wrote:what is the status of anarchy in your nation? how are anarchists treated?

We arbor anarchy, we are a highly ordered and structured society that values freedom and we see the 'law of the jungle' system that anarchists advocate as being potentially highly restrictive to the personal freedoms of the common people since any thug in an anarchist system can do what they like with zero consequences providing they are the strongest.


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Postby Cruciland » Fri Nov 30, 2012 7:09 pm

That depends on what is defined as "anarchist." True anarchists are beaten senselessly, then dragged half-alive to the operation table. Libertarians just trying to look hardcore are laughed at, THEN beaten senselessly and dragged half-alive to the operation table.
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Postby Vampirum » Fri Nov 30, 2012 7:19 pm

Anarchism is something of a non-issue. Living in a country where majority of it's citizens isn't suppose to 'exist', vampires of Vampirum are progressively independent, and the political powers are actually well in-tuned. Basically, the people in general have much better things to do than complain about a system of government that is actually protecting them from the receiving end of a stake.

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