Should Drugs Be Legal?

[Nordengrund]

For the longest time, Nordengrund has outlawed all drugs except for alcohol, nicotine, tabacco, and smoking products. Now our chancellor is considering to legalize drugs. What is your opinion?

[Urmanian]

All drugs should be legalized. The state should have no part in deciding what people should or should not put in their body.

[Tuthina]

Drugs should be legalised, since it reduce the control on the population by non-state-approved entities such as the black market. On the other hand, all trouble-makers who are caught while under its influence should be treated the same as mental illness should they not recover their sanity for a while.

[Abatael]

Nordengrund, why must you insist upon following the opinion of the majority? They know not what is best for your nation, or for its people.

Life, and physical health are precious gifts entrusted to us by God. We must take reasonable care of them, taking into account the needs of others, and the common good.

If morality requires respect for the life of the body, it does not make it an absolute value. It rejects a neo-pagan notion that tends to promote the cult of the body, to sacrifice everything for its sake, to idolize physical perfection, and success at sports. By its selective preference of the strong over the weak, such a conception can lead to the perversion of human relationships.

The use of drugs inflicts very grave damage on human health, and life. Their use, except on strictly legitimate, therapeutic grounds, is a grave offense. Clandestine production of, and trafficking in drugs are scandalous practices. They constitute direct cooperation in evil, since they encourage people to practices gravely contrary to the moral law, and contrary to the will of God.

[Nordengrund]

Nordengrund, why must you insist upon following the opinion of the majority? They know not what is best for your nation, or for its people.

Life, and physical health are precious gifts entrusted to us by God. We must take reasonable care of them, taking into account the needs of others, and the common good.

If morality requires respect for the life of the body, it does not make it an absolute value. It rejects a neo-pagan notion that tends to promote the cult of the body, to sacrifice everything for its sake, to idolize physical perfection, and success at sports. By its selective preference of the strong over the weak, such a conception can lead to the perversion of human relationships.

The use of drugs inflicts very grave damage on human health, and life. Their use, except on strictly legitimate, therapeutic grounds, is a grave offense. Clandestine production of, and trafficking in drugs are scandalous practices. They constitute direct cooperation in evil, since they encourage people to practices gravely contrary to the moral law, and contrary to the will of God.

Well, even though we are reactionaries, we do support personal liberty. We are not discussing about legalizing it because of pressure from the majority but because is it really that much of an issue?

Personally, we do not believe the consumption of drugs to be a sin.

[Uirokeilendh]

For the longest time, Nordengrund has outlawed all drugs except for alcohol, nicotine, tabacco, and smoking products. Now our chancellor is considering to legalize drugs. What is your opinion?

Thou've banned medical drugs like aspirin? Art thou mad?!

[Catan]

Drugs that drive people into frenzies or cause hallucinations (or in any other significant way open a path for the user to harm another due to the drug) should remain illegal. All other stuff, why not?

[Nordengrund]

For the longest time, Nordengrund has outlawed all drugs except for alcohol, nicotine, tabacco, and smoking products. Now our chancellor is considering to legalize drugs. What is your opinion?

Thou've banned medical drugs like aspirin? Art thou mad?!

By drugs, we meant recreational drugs not medicinal drugs (excluding marijuana)

[MyAmericanDream]

Don't let your populace become junkies.

[Uirokeilendh]

Well, even though we are reactionaries, we do support personal liberty. We are not discussing about legalizing it because of pressure from the majority but because is it really that much of an issue?

Personally, we do not believe the consumption of drugs to be a sin.

Why do you speak like a hive mind? Are we to believe all your people have the same opinion?

If you intend to legalise drugs, I suggest you begin with medical drugs & caffeine.

[Hippostania]

Absolutely not. Instead, we encourage you to outlaw alcohol and tobacco products as well. Hippostania has had a prohibition for over two centuries and it has significantly reduced crime and increased our life expectancy. We encourage you to do the same.

[Tuthina]

Drugs that drive people into frenzies or cause hallucinations (or in any other significant way open a path for the user to harm another due to the drug) should remain illegal. All other stuff, why not?

Alternatively, just gun down everyone who are in frenzy regardless of reasons. That works too.

[Bormeatri]

Simple answer: No
Long answer: Hell No!

[Abatael]

Nordengrund, why must you insist upon following the opinion of the majority? They know not what is best for your nation, or for its people.

Life, and physical health are precious gifts entrusted to us by God. We must take reasonable care of them, taking into account the needs of others, and the common good.

If morality requires respect for the life of the body, it does not make it an absolute value. It rejects a neo-pagan notion that tends to promote the cult of the body, to sacrifice everything for its sake, to idolize physical perfection, and success at sports. By its selective preference of the strong over the weak, such a conception can lead to the perversion of human relationships.

The use of drugs inflicts very grave damage on human health, and life. Their use, except on strictly legitimate, therapeutic grounds, is a grave offense. Clandestine production of, and trafficking in drugs are scandalous practices. They constitute direct cooperation in evil, since they encourage people to practices gravely contrary to the moral law, and contrary to the will of God.

Well, even though we are reactionaries, we do support personal liberty. We are not discussing about legalizing it because of pressure from the majority but because is it really that much of an issue?

Personally, we do not believe the consumption of drugs to be a sin.

Through simple cogitative procedures, we can logically conclude that it is, in fact, sinful. As I said before, "The use of drugs inflicts very grave damage on human health, and life." It does so, because it is an offense against the body.

With that knowledge, we take the Biblical excerpt, "What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's," (1 Cor 6:19-20 KJV) and conclude that consuming drugs for non-therapeutic drugs is a direct, and it is a grave offense against the will of God, and against God.

[Uirokeilendh]

Thou've banned medical drugs like aspirin? Art thou mad?!

By drugs, we meant recreational drugs not medicinal drugs (excluding marijuana)

I. Virtually all 'recreational' drugs have a medical purpose.
Heroine for example, is essentially just another form of morphine. In-fact, it's safe when uncontaminated. The problem with it is it's addictive, and thus not inappropriate for medical use.
II. Alcohol & nicotine are used a recreational drugs, and those a legal in your nation.
III. You don't think people can use medicinal drugs for recreational purposes?

[Tuthina]

Through simple cogitative procedures, we can logically conclude that it is, in fact, sinful. As I said before, "The use of drugs inflicts very grave damage on human health, and life." It does so, because it is an offense against the body.

With that knowledge, we take the Biblical excerpt, "What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's," (1 Cor 6:19-20 KJV) and conclude that consuming drugs for non-therapeutic drugs is a direct, and it is a grave offense against the will of God, and against God.

However, not all religions use the Bible, and some religions (such as Tuthina's imperial cult) consider some drugs can be a tool to enhance or relax the body from stress and external impurity, and thus it is kind cleaning the shrine for deities in a spiritual way, and thus it is good.

[Abatael]

By drugs, we meant recreational drugs not medicinal drugs (excluding marijuana)

I. Virtually all 'recreational' drugs have a medical purpose.
Heroine for example, is essentially just another form of morphine. In-fact, it's safe when uncontaminated. The problem with it is it's addictive, and thus not inappropriate for medical use.
II. Alcohol & nicotine are used a recreational drugs, and those a legal in your nation.
III. You don't think people can use medicinal drugs for recreational purposes?

All drugs may have an affect, but that does not make them medical.

[Sedikal]

I would say decriminalize it. Do such thing has provin to decrease criminal organization since there not fighting over drug turf. And if you look at nations that have done the same thing (Portugal, Amsterdam) there hard drug overdose rate is almost 60-70% lower then that of nations that have illegalized drugs.

[Abatael]

Through simple cogitative procedures, we can logically conclude that it is, in fact, sinful. As I said before, "The use of drugs inflicts very grave damage on human health, and life." It does so, because it is an offense against the body.

With that knowledge, we take the Biblical excerpt, "What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's," (1 Cor 6:19-20 KJV) and conclude that consuming drugs for non-therapeutic drugs is a direct, and it is a grave offense against the will of God, and against God.

However, not all religions use the Bible, and some religions (such as Tuthina's imperial cult) consider some drugs can be a tool to enhance or relax the body from stress and external impurity, and thus it is kind cleaning the shrine for deities in a spiritual way, and thus it is good.

Both Venolia, and Nordengrund are Godly.

[Uirokeilendh]

I. Virtually all 'recreational' drugs have a medical purpose.
Heroine for example, is essentially just another form of morphine. In-fact, it's safe when uncontaminated. The problem with it is it's addictive, and thus not inappropriate for medical use.
II. Alcohol & nicotine are used a recreational drugs, and those a legal in your nation.
III. You don't think people can use medicinal drugs for recreational purposes?

All drugs may have an affect, but that does not make them medical.

They are medicinal if you use them medicinally.

[Nordengrund]

By drugs, we meant recreational drugs not medicinal drugs (excluding marijuana)

I. Virtually all 'recreational' drugs have a medical purpose.
Heroine for example, is essentially just another form of morphine. In-fact, it's safe when uncontaminated. The problem with it is it's addictive, and thus not inappropriate for medical use.
II. Alcohol & nicotine are used a recreational drugs, and those a legal in your nation.
III. You don't think people can use medicinal drugs for recreational purposes?

OCC: I have a reputation for being a hypocrite. Personally I have no problem with alcohol, smoking products or tobacco, because I do not think they are anywhere near as bad as the hard drugs. I also grew up around them.

IC: I, the chancellor of Nordengrund, do not rule a hivemind. Speaking in second person is a bad habit of mine because I like to represent all Nordengrundians in the issues.

[Abatael]

All drugs may have an affect, but that does not make them medical.

They are medicinal if you use them medicinally.

Those drugs are not used medicinally. They are used in a recreational, illegal manner, hence it being clearly stated, "recreational drugs."

[Tuthina]

Both Venolia, and Nordengrund are Godly.

I stand corrected, then. We still suggest Nordengrund to legalise most of the drugs, and put all who commits crime under drug influence and failed to recover their sanity after a while in mental institution. We think it weeds out the more corrupting factors of the society regardless of religions.

[Starkindler]

In Starkindler's opinion, God doesn't enter it. We take drug use as it is. Suicide. And we allow this form of self-expression as well.
In the Empire drug users are killed on sight. (Drugs are hereby defined as any substance capable of altering one's bodily functions, but not dependent on it, which is not in the State regulated alcohol rations, or validly prescribed by an exterior party with a Doctor's Degree or above in Medical Studies.)

Drug (and tobacco) dealers are criminals against humanity, mass murderers. In Starkindler law, they are on the same level as Hitler, Stalin, Mao, or in religious countries, the Devil himself. Thus they are taken care as such, slowly tortured to death.

Naturally, when applicable usable organs and blood is cleaned and harvested from the convict, and all and any assets seized for the crown. Serious offenders might carry radius cleanings (extermination of entire living family, eradication from all records, and seizure of all and any assets).

That's why drug dealers in the Empire are extremely heavily armed. So does the MP's raining justice on them. In the form of heavy artillery, precision air strikes and tank battalions. Followed by several rounds of napalm to clean the substances.

[Des-Bal]

The communist government of Nordengrund again betrays a glimpse at it's evil heart. Nordengrunds hatred of personal freedom is demonstrated here by their decision to deny the individual their fundamental right to self-governance.