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Liugark
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Postby Liugark » Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:59 pm

San-Silvacian wrote:
Liugark wrote:Hm,could you modify the calibre of the Olifant ?´

Good point about the supplylines Samo.I think it would be logical for Liugark to have smaller hidden depots
in the countryside,especially at the borders.Not talking about an barrack or something,just a small hole
filled with some ammunation and stuff in times of war.Local garrisons would know their locations,so they
could fight on without depending on a supplyline all the time,even though supplys are still very important.

The Abrams looks good,may use it.


You're looking into the field of spider holes like those used the insurgents.

You could also have the soldiers, say like militia, have 50 rounds of ammunition in their homes for emergency deployments only. The Swiss did this, but there are to many issue that come with such a thing.

Plus, LAHAT is an asskick in a can (Literally) and 105mm gun tanks suddenly make the battlefield allot more level, just focus on the defensive side of your tanks and throw LAHAT out like mad.


Sorry,but what is LAHAT ?´

Also the population of Liugark is pretty scatered,there are not many population hotspots.
The use of guerillas and militias could be effective.
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San-Silvacian
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Postby San-Silvacian » Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:01 pm

Liugark wrote:
San-Silvacian wrote:
You're looking into the field of spider holes like those used the insurgents.

You could also have the soldiers, say like militia, have 50 rounds of ammunition in their homes for emergency deployments only. The Swiss did this, but there are to many issue that come with such a thing.

Plus, LAHAT is an asskick in a can (Literally) and 105mm gun tanks suddenly make the battlefield allot more level, just focus on the defensive side of your tanks and throw LAHAT out like mad.


Sorry,but what is LAHAT ?´

Also the population of Liugark is pretty scatered,there are not many population hotspots.
The use of guerillas and militias could be effective.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LAHAT

Samo has more info most likely, I just have a Wiki link.

Well, then you want a large guerrilla force and a small, professional force for things like counterattacks and that sort.
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Postby Liugark » Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:05 pm

San-Silvacian wrote:
Liugark wrote:
Sorry,but what is LAHAT ?´

Also the population of Liugark is pretty scatered,there are not many population hotspots.
The use of guerillas and militias could be effective.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LAHAT

Samo has more info most likely, I just have a Wiki link.

Well, then you want a large guerrilla force and a small, professional force for things like counterattacks and that sort.


Hm,actually I like my big professional army.

Was just an dumb idea.LAHAT looks good,makes the Olifant more competive.
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Postby 20 Dragon Riders » Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:05 pm

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Postby Creative Vikings » Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:07 pm

Sooooo.... No lineart 20-round box mag for 7.52 NATO? That link before didn't work.

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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:11 pm

Liugark wrote:

Just putting this out there for reference; there's a thread that deals with military realism. This is pretty much just about the guns.
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Postby Mega-City » Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:12 pm

The mainstay of the Corporate Sector forces is the M41A Pulse Rifle

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and their main handgun is the Series 4 Deatomizer

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The Cult of Dux Praetorian Guard wields the Shockstaff

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while the followers wield lasbasters

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(it's the weapon Dredd is wielding)
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Postby Liugark » Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:12 pm

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:
Liugark wrote:

Just putting this out there for reference; there's a thread that deals with military realism. This is pretty much just about the guns.


Yeah,I have mentioned before that I turn this thread pretty off-topic,sorry about that.
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Postby San-Silvacian » Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:16 pm

Mega-City wrote:The mainstay of the Corporate Sector forces is the M41A Pulse Rifle



and their main handgun is the Series 4 Deatomizer



The Cult of Dux Praetorian Guard wields the Shockstaff



while the followers wield lasbasters



(it's the weapon Dredd is wielding)


Is the Cult of Dux also issued with the torn clothing?

Wouldn't mind fighting them from a distance.

Liugark wrote:
San-Silvacian wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LAHAT

Samo has more info most likely, I just have a Wiki link.

Well, then you want a large guerrilla force and a small, professional force for things like counterattacks and that sort.


Hm,actually I like my big professional army.

Was just an dumb idea.LAHAT looks good,makes the Olifant more competive.


I don't trusts its armor since its made to fight 1960s and 70s tanks that most likely haven't seen spares since the 80s and 90s.

I'll happily make you a modern tank if you want me to. I've made four tanks in my day, one of which I made 3 variants for. I'm not the very best, but I'm not the very worst (I hope at least)
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:16 pm

Liugark wrote:
Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:Just putting this out there for reference; there's a thread that deals with military realism. This is pretty much just about the guns.


Yeah,I have mentioned before that I turn this thread pretty off-topic,sorry about that.

It's fine. Just keep the other thread in mind.
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:18 pm

I think this one works.
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Postby Liugark » Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:18 pm

San-Silvacian wrote:
Mega-City wrote:The mainstay of the Corporate Sector forces is the M41A Pulse Rifle



and their main handgun is the Series 4 Deatomizer



The Cult of Dux Praetorian Guard wields the Shockstaff



while the followers wield lasbasters



(it's the weapon Dredd is wielding)


Is the Cult of Dux also issued with the torn clothing?

Wouldn't mind fighting them from a distance.

Liugark wrote:
Hm,actually I like my big professional army.

Was just an dumb idea.LAHAT looks good,makes the Olifant more competive.


I don't trusts its armor since its made to fight 1960s and 70s tanks that most likely haven't seen spares since the 80s and 90s.

I'll happily make you a modern tank if you want me to. I've made four tanks in my day, one of which I made 3 variants for. I'm not the very best, but I'm not the very worst (I hope at least)


Hey that would be cool.I would really like a tank from you,maybe we should continue this in the tank thread.
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Postby Mega-City » Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:22 pm

San-Silvacian wrote:
Is the Cult of Dux also issued with the torn clothing?

Wouldn't mind fighting them from a distance.


Naw, she has just sliced her way through a crowd of Infidels.
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Postby Imeriata » Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:28 pm

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:@Imeriata - the tracer variant of a round would actually have a different cutaway. The rounds are typically longer to accommodate the pyrotechnic component, also making them heavier. While the OA/length is constant, due to this extended rear, the rounds are effectively deeper seated than normal.
I think that because of this, tracers have slightly different trajectories - but you'll normally be either using only tracer (sniper rifles, anti-tank rifles if used, downed aircrew carbines ought to use all-tracer, so they can direct friendly air support's fire to cover their self-extraction, squad leaders and JTACs could maybe do with all-tracer for the same reason), or be using it on a standard rifle or machine gun in a ratio of 'ball' to 'tracer' (typically 1:1 or 1:4), where the accuracy of the weapon negates the differing trajectories anyway.

Really? the pictures I saw of tracer rounds looked pretty much the same as the regular round.

And as I understood it so were the different trajectory because of the different weight and balancing that the two rounds had.
But I suppose you know more about this.
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Postby San-Silvacian » Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:29 pm

Liugark wrote:
San-Silvacian wrote:
Is the Cult of Dux also issued with the torn clothing?

Wouldn't mind fighting them from a distance.



I don't trusts its armor since its made to fight 1960s and 70s tanks that most likely haven't seen spares since the 80s and 90s.

I'll happily make you a modern tank if you want me to. I've made four tanks in my day, one of which I made 3 variants for. I'm not the very best, but I'm not the very worst (I hope at least)


Hey that would be cool.I would really like a tank from you,maybe we should continue this in the tank thread.


Just TG me with whatever you want and I'll see if I can't make it happen.
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:31 pm

Imeriata wrote:
Samozaryadnyastan wrote:@Imeriata - the tracer variant of a round would actually have a different cutaway. The rounds are typically longer to accommodate the pyrotechnic component, also making them heavier. While the OA/length is constant, due to this extended rear, the rounds are effectively deeper seated than normal.
I think that because of this, tracers have slightly different trajectories - but you'll normally be either using only tracer (sniper rifles, anti-tank rifles if used, downed aircrew carbines ought to use all-tracer, so they can direct friendly air support's fire to cover their self-extraction, squad leaders and JTACs could maybe do with all-tracer for the same reason), or be using it on a standard rifle or machine gun in a ratio of 'ball' to 'tracer' (typically 1:1 or 1:4), where the accuracy of the weapon negates the differing trajectories anyway.

Really? the pictures I saw of tracer rounds looked pretty much the same as the regular round.

And as I understood it so were the different trajectory because of the different weight and balancing that the two rounds had.
But I suppose you know more about this.
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judging from the numerous ways I have seen my name spelt over the years so would I not argue with that.

I'm sure I've seen cutaways of the 5.56 rounds, with the tracer variant being a longer bullet for the pyrotechnic.
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Postby Indeos » Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:34 pm

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:I think this one works.
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Postby Ediconeg » Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:36 pm

Fixed* Thank you for noting the gas tube, didnt even realize. haha
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KS-1 (GateKeeper) Battle Rifle. 7.62x51mm (.308Win) Accurate to 800yrds, this is the primary weapon for the forces of Ediconeg.

KS-CS (ChainSaw)
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4.6x30mm. Accurate up to 200yrds. Used mainly by Ediconeg Special Operations Forces and SWAT. Perfect for Close quarters battle.

KS-DM (Dominator)
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7.62x51mm (.308win) Main Light Machine Gun, Same caliber as Battle Rifle helps keep manufacturing costs low.

KS-PM (PinkMist)
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7.62x54mm. Accurate up to 1600yrds. Bullpup design keeps the rifle short, while maintaining barrel length.
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Postby Spreewerke » Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:36 pm

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:
Imeriata wrote:Really? the pictures I saw of tracer rounds looked pretty much the same as the regular round.

And as I understood it so were the different trajectory because of the different weight and balancing that the two rounds had.
But I suppose you know more about this.

judging from the numerous ways I have seen my name spelt over the years so would I not argue with that.

I'm sure I've seen cutaways of the 5.56 rounds, with the tracer variant being a longer bullet for the pyrotechnic.
>self doubt
>aaaaaaargh



Tracer 5.56x45mm rounds are longer than standard FMJ 62gr.

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Postby Spreewerke » Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:38 pm

Also, this.


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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:38 pm

Ediconeg wrote:(Image)
KS-1 Battle Rifle. 7.62x51mm (.308Win) Accurate to 800yrds, this is the primary weapon for the forces of Ediconeg. Side arm, SMG, LMG, and Sniper Rifle soon to come.

Nice, but your gas tube is rather horribly exposed.
Could cause issues on the battlefield.
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Postby Nua Corda » Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:44 pm

Spreewerke wrote:Also, this.


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That's... a lot of StG-44s...
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Postby Byeloruscia » Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:50 pm

Byeloruscia Assault Rifle* AK-107,7.62×51mm
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Byeloruscia Pistol* MP-443 Grach,9mm Parabellum
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Byeloruscia Sub Machine Gun*Heckler&Koch MP5,9mm
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Byeloruscia Sniper Rifle*SV-98,7.62×54mm
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Postby Creative Vikings » Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:23 pm

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:I think this one works.
Clockwise from top-left:
Four 30rds, a 20rds, four 72rds, a 20rds, three 36rds, two templates, bunch of PMAG ripoff rubber caps, three more 30rds.

What would you recommend for a BR that is issued along with ARs? (Note: The ARs are chambered for 6.5 Grendel).

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