Main Military Weapon of Your Country: Mk. VI

[The Republic of Lanos]

I use polymer cased telescoped rounds and I don't see any issues. Caseless? Far away.

[Yes Im Biop]

It could have been done 20 years ago. More, if you don't mind some compromises.

Cases are probably here to stay until we stop using chemical propellants entirely. Besides providing a good gas seal in the breech and protecting the ammunition from the elements, cases also keep guns running cooler by absorbing waste heat from propellant combustion.

It is possible we'll switch from brass to polymer or another material, but I doubt we'll go fully caseless.

I just don't see it happening until all the issues with misfiring and loading are solved.

Just my personal opinion

any weapon that wipes out the army and ends war for our gain is a main miltary weapon for our country

Sort of vague aren't you?

That and why change it if it works. Wouldn't Poly cases cost more then brass and steel?

[Aqizithiuda]

Cases are probably here to stay until we stop using chemical propellants entirely. Besides providing a good gas seal in the breech and protecting the ammunition from the elements, cases also keep guns running cooler by absorbing waste heat from propellant combustion.

It is possible we'll switch from brass to polymer or another material, but I doubt we'll go fully caseless.

I just don't see it happening until all the issues with misfiring and loading are solved.

Just my personal opinion

Sort of vague aren't you?

That and why change it if it works. Wouldn't Poly cases cost more then brass and steel?

Nope. Cheaper.

[Yes Im Biop]

That and why change it if it works. Wouldn't Poly cases cost more then brass and steel?

Nope. Cheaper.

Really? Huh, melting? Aren't Brass and Steel used as slight heat sinks?

[Aqizithiuda]

Nope. Cheaper.

Really? Huh, melting? Aren't Brass and Steel used as slight heat sinks?

Again, no. Polymer ammo also acts as a heat shield for the chamber, so cookoff takes longer.

[The Zeonic States]

Cases are probably here to stay until we stop using chemical propellants entirely. Besides providing a good gas seal in the breech and protecting the ammunition from the elements, cases also keep guns running cooler by absorbing waste heat from propellant combustion.

It is possible we'll switch from brass to polymer or another material, but I doubt we'll go fully caseless.

I just don't see it happening until all the issues with misfiring and loading are solved.

Just my personal opinion

Oh, I agree that PCTA is far superior to caseless, but it's still possible to have caseless ammo from years ago.

Well of course it's possible it's been proven to work; All those ships using their cannon's back in the day used Caseless rounds after all.

And people have made caseless rounds work from home materials i have no doubt it CAN be done just that i don't see it happening in Militaries anytime soon.

[The Republic of Lanos]

In fact, switching from brass to polymer regular cases provides significant weight reduction. Going to both telescoped cases and polymer cases kicks ass in two ways.

[Coltarin]

In fact, switching from brass to polymer regular cases provides significant weight reduction. Going to both telescoped cases and polymer cases kicks ass in two ways.

Thats why I use'em too

[The Zeonic States]

That and why change it if it works. Wouldn't Poly cases cost more then brass and steel?

Nope. Cheaper.

Depends upon the Material used entirely; But Yeah it probably would be cheaper if not by much.

Militaries purchases Materials to make rounds by the truckload after all.

You might see the savings as a invidual consumer but i doubt governments would.

[The Republic of Lanos]

In fact, switching from brass to polymer regular cases provides significant weight reduction. Going to both telescoped cases and polymer cases kicks ass in two ways.

Thats why I use'em too

So do I.

[Aqizithiuda]

Oh, I agree that PCTA is far superior to caseless, but it's still possible to have caseless ammo from years ago.

Well of course it's possible it's been proven to work; All thsoe ships using their cannon's back in the day used Caseless rounds after all.

And people have made caseless rounds work from home materials i have no doubt it CAN be done just that i don't see it happening in Militaries anytime soon.

Military grade CLA is possible and has been possible for 20 years, assuking you're willing to take the extra cost and associated issues. There would literally be nothing wrong with a MT nation having had a CLA round in service for 20 years.

In fact, switching from brass to polymer regular cases provides significant weight reduction. Going to both telescoped cases and polymer cases kicks ass in two ways.

Indeed. Weight reduction is such that caseless becomes almost pointless when you consider all the associated issues.

Nope. Cheaper.

Depends upon the Material used entirely; But Yeah it probably would be cheaper if not by much.

Militaries purchases Materials to make rounds by the truckload after all.

You might see the savings as a invidual consumer but i doubt governments would.

When you purchase billions of rounds per year, you tend to see savings.

[The Zeonic States]

Well of course it's possible it's been proven to work; All thsoe ships using their cannon's back in the day used Caseless rounds after all.

And people have made caseless rounds work from home materials i have no doubt it CAN be done just that i don't see it happening in Militaries anytime soon.

Military grade CLA is possible and has been possible for 20 years, assuking you're willing to take the extra cost and associated issues. There would literally be nothing wrong with a MT nation having had a CLA round in service for 20 years.

In fact, switching from brass to polymer regular cases provides significant weight reduction. Going to both telescoped cases and polymer cases kicks ass in two ways.

Indeed. Weight reduction is such that caseless becomes almost pointless when you consider all the associated issues.

Depends upon the Material used entirely; But Yeah it probably would be cheaper if not by much.

Militaries purchases Materials to make rounds by the truckload after all.

You might see the savings as a invidual consumer but i doubt governments would.

When you purchase billions of rounds per year, you tend to see savings.

If your willing to deal with the Head aches of a caseless round i see no issue with it; I wouldn't personally use the Techology but that is me. I like the idea of my gun's not melting in my soldiers hands or their magazines not needing loaded by hand every time they need to reload.

And secondly; Again it depends upon the Polymer material or whatever material you are making the case from; Some artifically made polymers i have seen in dicussion about the caseless rounds have been far from cheap but others have if you were willing to coat the round in Sythentic rubber i am certain that it would be cheaper then Brass but it wouldn't exactly work very well for a round casing Material.

[Cronatian]

Anyone have some knowledge of the Interarms AK-74 variants? They are at a decent price at Atlantic Firearms, and they come in both 7.63 and 5.45. What I'm really concerned over however, is the quality.

[Spreewerke]

Anyone have some knowledge of the Interarms AK-74 variants? They are at a decent price at Atlantic Firearms, and they come in both 7.63 and 5.45. What I'm really concerned over however, is the quality.

They're okay. They appear to be built off of Bulgarian parts kits to me.

[The Zeonic States]

Anyone have some knowledge of the Interarms AK-74 variants? They are at a decent price at Atlantic Firearms, and they come in both 7.63 and 5.45. What I'm really concerned over however, is the quality.

They're okay. They appear to be built off of Bulgarian parts kits to me.

o.o I went to Your review website and got to say the Makarov pistol was pretty well described in a decent amount of detail including the ever so crucial detail of it's rather odd requirement in ammunition.

[Aqizithiuda]

If your willing to deal with the Head aches of a caseless round i see no issue with it; I wouldn't personally use the Techology but that is me. I like the idea of my gun's not melting in my soldiers hands or their magazines not needing loaded by hand every time they need to reload.

I don't think you know what caseless ammunition is, if you think that those are drawbacks.

And secondly; Again it depends upon the Polymer material or whatever material you are making the case from; Some artifically made polymers i have seen in dicussion about the caseless rounds have been far from cheap but others have if you were willing to coat the round in Sythentic rubber i am certain that it would be cheaper then Brass but it wouldn't exactly work very well for a round casing Material.

I've not seen anything to suggest that polymer cases would be more expensive than brass ones. Quite the opposite, in fact.

[Transnapastain]

If your willing to deal with the Head aches of a caseless round i see no issue with it; I wouldn't personally use the Techology but that is me. I like the idea of my gun's not melting in my soldiers hands or their magazines not needing loaded by hand every time they need to reload.

I don't think you know what caseless ammunition is, if you think that those are drawbacks.

And secondly; Again it depends upon the Polymer material or whatever material you are making the case from; Some artifically made polymers i have seen in dicussion about the caseless rounds have been far from cheap but others have if you were willing to coat the round in Sythentic rubber i am certain that it would be cheaper then Brass but it wouldn't exactly work very well for a round casing Material.

I've not seen anything to suggest that polymer cases would be more expensive than brass ones. Quite the opposite, in fact.

Would you be able to reload polymer cases, do you think?

[Aqizithiuda]

I honestly don't know. I suppose it would depend on the type and the properties of the plastic. Probably not, though, I'd say.

[Transnapastain]

I honestly don't know. I suppose it would depend on the type and the properties of the plastic. Probably not, though, I'd say.

Thats what I was thinking too, as I pondered it.

thats not really a huge deal for the military, I wouldn't think.

[Aqizithiuda]

I honestly don't know. I suppose it would depend on the type and the properties of the plastic. Probably not, though, I'd say.

Thats what I was thinking too, as I pondered it.

thats not really a huge deal for the military, I wouldn't think.

Recycling the polymer and/or the metal stubs would likely be higher on their list of priorities.

[Samozaryadnyastan]

Vecerian HBR335 DMR:
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Very nice, though your rails could use some more definition. To bring them off the body of the weapon, from a perspective sense.
Your chamber also wants to be fatter, too.

What's the caliber on that thing?

No clue; I played only the first game and i don't think it was mentioned.

Maybe it would be on the Gear's Wiki? But the thing is an assault rifle and i would assume as such it would be using rifle calibers.

You're talking about the Gearsverse, where fighting men are three times larger than normal and the world is powered by testosterone.
Biop's probably right, it probably is a .30-06 or bigger.

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120501091934/gearsofwar/images/9/9c/Gow-3-lancer-blueprint.png
I found a schematic for the Lancer. No references to caliber, and I'm not sure what's going on with the magazine. 0_o

I think this may be where Colt found his inspiration for his early pistol grip designs.

The Lancer was completely redesigned from the ground up to incorporate the Chainsaw.

Not very well designed but sure

It worked in the canon, but in no ways for logic.

Do you love me now?

Fatal design flaw: no front sight post except on two of them.

It relies on linkup with HUD. Remember that regular marines have HUDs too.

why not just go with holographic sight like the gun in GRFS

I'm not certain it's even physically possible.
Besides, it's a pretty terrible concept.

It can be done in the next 10 years tbh.

I don't SEE it happening for at least thirty.

Refitting a first world Nation's collection of firearms with caseless rounds would be an expensive and time consuming process so i don't see it happening anytime soon.

LSAT is the foot in the door this time for CTA and then in the future possible CLA.

[Coltarin]

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120501091934/gearsofwar/images/9/9c/Gow-3-lancer-blueprint.png
I found a schematic for the Lancer. No references to caliber, and I'm not sure what's going on with the magazine. 0_o

I think this may be where Colt found his inspiration for his early pistol grip designs.

No, that was just bad drawing

[Our Most Resplendent Goddess Sen]

It can be done in the next 10 years tbh.

It could have been done 20 years ago. More, if you don't mind some compromises.

Well, depending on the compromises in question...

[Veceria]

Vecerian HBR335 DMR:
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Very nice, though your rails could use some more definition. To bring them off the body of the weapon, from a perspective sense.
Your chamber also wants to be fatter, too.

The rails are more-or-less a placeholder till I finish the Picatinny rail WIP for my scale.

The chamber is already fat enough, it's just a very heavy barrel, thus outer diameter is quite some millimeters larger than inner diameter :3

[Armadrone]

Bombs I suppose.