How does your country feel about lgbt

[Patroclus]

Let's strike a deal, eh. You give me your gays (instead of jail time), and I'll give you my homophobes.

I think that sounds fair.

Let me think about it.

I'll even throw in an embassy, for the gesture.

[Sedikal]

You are entitled to your beliefs, but we Nordengrundians are Evangelical Calvinist Nordengrundian Baptists which is similar to America's Southern Baptists. However, we respect and recognize national sovereignty and will not interfere with other nations' rights to rule themselves.

By the way. I would love to take in all your incarsorsted homosexuals. And if any one is found "guilty" of homosexuality I will take them. Not need for them to rot in jail for being themselves.

[Nordengrund]

Fine, we will give them up.

And Patroclus, we have no desire for an embassy.

[Saint Alexander]

Fine, we will give them up.

And Patroclus, we have no desire for an embassy.

Split them between Patroclus, Sedikal and I, please ^^

[Casanovak]

We see it as a terrible sin, though not unforgivable, and they will not inherit God's kingdom unless they become straight. So it is illegal here, and is punishable by long sentences in prison.

Other than religious and moral reasons, are there any reasons why homosexuality is illegal? Surely, it is more wise to have a seperation between state and religion, and allow homosexuality. Either way, homosexaulity is not a choice, so why does Nordengrund act like it is?

[Charlotte Ryberg]

Civil and political rights are legally protected.

[Nordengrund]

Fine, we will give them up.

And Patroclus, we have no desire for an embassy.

Split them between Patroclus, Sedikal and I, please ^^

Sure thing.

[Democratic Joyro]

We treat LGBTs the same, but since some areas are very sensitive to sexual topics it wouldn't be a good idea to host a pride parade there. A simple marriage will be accepted, not just tolerated like in some of our neighbouring states.

[Agymnum]

Split them between Patroclus, Sedikal and I, please ^^

Sure thing.

We request you send any science-inclined homosexuals to our nation, that they may learn and become scientists.

[Nordengrund]

We see it as a terrible sin, though not unforgivable, and they will not inherit God's kingdom unless they become straight. So it is illegal here, and is punishable by long sentences in prison.

Other than religious and moral reasons, are there any reasons why homosexuality is illegal? Surely, it is more wise to have a seperation between state and religion, and allow homosexuality. Either way, homosexaulity is not a choice, so why does Nordengrund act like it is?

We see it as disgusting and disturbing and many RL nations fell because of homosexuality and sexual perversion.

No offense to the pro- gay nations out there, but we see legalization of homosexuality as the opposite of progress.

[Densaner]

LGBT people have the same rights as other citizens. However LGBT people are in a small minority and are reminded of this when they get too "vocal".

[Patroclus]

Fine, we will give them up.

And Patroclus, we have no desire for an embassy.

Okay, good doing business. *shakes hand*

Though, I only threw in the embassy because I thought you wanted one. But, if not, I don't mind.

[Saint Alexander]

Other than religious and moral reasons, are there any reasons why homosexuality is illegal? Surely, it is more wise to have a seperation between state and religion, and allow homosexuality. Either way, homosexaulity is not a choice, so why does Nordengrund act like it is?

We see it as disgusting and disturbing and many RL nations fell because of homosexuality and sexual perversion.

No offense to the pro- gay nations out there, but we see legalization of homosexuality as the opposite of progress.

Well, that is offensive and we find you to be so much more Unenlightened. And, to clarify once more, I'm heterosexual. Just so you know, people can still be straight and fiercely defend gay rights.

[Agymnum]

Other than religious and moral reasons, are there any reasons why homosexuality is illegal? Surely, it is more wise to have a seperation between state and religion, and allow homosexuality. Either way, homosexaulity is not a choice, so why does Nordengrund act like it is?

We see it as disgusting and disturbing and many RL nations fell because of homosexuality and sexual perversion.

No offense to the pro- gay nations out there, but we see legalization of homosexuality as the opposite of progress.

You can't claim that it's the opposite of progress without offending some nations, especially ones that pride themselves on technology and progress.

[Mesairien]

Other than religious and moral reasons, are there any reasons why homosexuality is illegal? Surely, it is more wise to have a seperation between state and religion, and allow homosexuality. Either way, homosexaulity is not a choice, so why does Nordengrund act like it is?

We see it as disgusting and disturbing and many RL nations fell because of homosexuality and sexual perversion.

No offense to the pro- gay nations out there, but we see legalization of homosexuality as the opposite of progress.

OOC: Wait... WHAT?!
No Nation in Human History has ever fallen solely because of Homosexuality or perversion, as if they were even a contribution

[Conscentia]

many RL nations fell because of homosexuality and sexual perversion.

Well that's just not true. Not even partially true.

[Urmanian]

Our country doesn't 'feel' anything about LGBT. They are considered perfectly natural, are the same people as everyone else and enjoy the same rights. Simple as that.

We see it as disgusting and disturbing and many RL nations fell because of homosexuality and sexual perversion.

Care to provide an example of a single RL nation that fell because of homosexuality and sexual perversion?

[Nordengrund]

We see it as disgusting and disturbing and many RL nations fell because of homosexuality and sexual perversion.

No offense to the pro- gay nations out there, but we see legalization of homosexuality as the opposite of progress.

OOC: Wait... WHAT?!
No Nation in Human History has ever fallen solely because of Homosexuality or perversion, as if they were even a contribution

Soddom and Gammorah, Roman Empire, Jericho, Ninevah, the British Empire (that one is a joke)

[Nordengrund]

Let us not turn this into a debate thread. If you want to debate make a topic on it in General.

[Saint Alexander]

OOC: Wait... WHAT?!
No Nation in Human History has ever fallen solely because of Homosexuality or perversion, as if they were even a contribution

Soddom and Gammorah, Roman Empire, Jericho, Ninevah, the British Empire (that one is a joke)

Um, no. Rome fell because of Christianity, not Homosexuality. In real life you seem just as Unenlightened as in NS life

[Ceannairceach]

People of an alternate gender or sexuality are not persecuted in the Triumvirate, and maintain equal rights to every other citizen.

[Mesairien]

OOC: Wait... WHAT?!
No Nation in Human History has ever fallen solely because of Homosexuality or perversion, as if they were even a contribution

Soddom and Gammorah, Roman Empire, Jericho, Ninevah, the British Empire (that one is a joke)

Are you... oh in God's name
The Roman Empire fell because they weren't exactly the nicest people on Earth, they murdered their way across Europe and founded an Empire based on blood and the idea that Romans were superior to all the 'Barbairiens' and Christians of the world. They eventually spread themselves too thin and spent all their cash on fivilities and fighting said barbariens and trying to crush Chritianity causing them to HAVE to receed right back from Britian to what we now call Italy. How in the world is that due to homosexuality, learn basic history please.

EDIT: Admittedly I kno nothing of Soddom, Gammorah, Jericho or Ninevah so I can't comment on them, but I do know that - if they were countries, they were not exactly greatly powerful (Or their existence would be common knowledge) which would explain how they fell.

[Conscentia]

OOC: Wait... WHAT?!
No Nation in Human History has ever fallen solely because of Homosexuality or perversion, as if they were even a contribution

Soddom and Gammorah, Roman Empire, Jericho, Ninevah, the British Empire (that one is a joke)

Sodom & Gomorrah? Not nations. Towns. And No.
Roman Empire? No! Why would you think that?
Jericho??? Nivevah??? What? Those aren't nations.

[Agymnum]

OOC: Wait... WHAT?!
No Nation in Human History has ever fallen solely because of Homosexuality or perversion, as if they were even a contribution

Soddom and Gammorah, Roman Empire, Jericho, Ninevah, the British Empire (that one is a joke)

In any and all of my old school's history classes, you would've gotten an F- and been laughed right out of the classroom.

[Sedikal]

Soddom and Gammorah, Roman Empire, Jericho, Ninevah, the British Empire (that one is a joke)

Um, no. Rome fell because of Christianity, not Homosexuality. In real life you seem just as Unenlightened as in NS life

Accualy most nations that count homosexuality as a crime are second and third world country's.