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Postby Saint Alexander » Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:18 pm

It would seem some nation beginning with an N has been indoctrinated into believing Christianity is a good thing. Guess what; it's not! The Christians were the ones who destroyed all the nations/towns named and don't deny it; the evidence is obvious.
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Postby Conscentia » Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:18 pm

Saint Alexander wrote:
Nordengrund wrote:
Soddom and Gammorah, Roman Empire, Jericho, Ninevah, the British Empire (that one is a joke)


Um, no. Rome fell because of Christianity, not Homosexuality. In real life you seem just as Unenlightened as in NS life :palm:


The Roman Empire did not fall because of Christianity. In fact it was Christian for quite some time before it collapsed.

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Postby Abatael » Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:18 pm

Saint Alexander wrote:
Abatael wrote:There is no LGBT, thank God. Homosexuality, and all its related iniquities are illegal, and punishable by death.


My country considers your to be Unenlightened and foolish. We pity your people :(


Likewise.

Agymnum wrote:
Abatael wrote:There is no LGBT, thank God. Homosexuality, and all its related iniquities are illegal, and punishable by death.


We are sorry your nation is too inferior and barbarous to treat all people as equals.


Your feelings are worthless. You are inferior, barbarous, and ignorant to believe all people are equal, for they are not, nor will they ever.

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Sedikal wrote:The native Americans were consitered inferior and barbaric and they consitered homosexual relations divin.


Their technology was inferior and barbaric, but their people were open-minded and for that we commend them.

Abatael is both technologically behind us and socially barbarous. We apologize they cannot keep up with the rest of society.


I am fairly, if not wholly sure, that we are technologically superior to you. We find your social policies socially barbarous. We are ahead of "the rest of society."

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Old Beringia wrote:The sooner you realize people are not equal and the veil of forced equality is raised, equality won't be an issue.


The sooner your people realize that all sapient species were created equal and can achieve equally given proper care and resources, your ignorance won't be an issue.


People were created equal, but it is not that way now.

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Nordengrund wrote:We see it as a terrible sin, though not unforgivable, and they will not inherit God's kingdom unless they become straight. So it is illegal here, and is punishable by long sentences in prison.


The concept of sin and morality is another which is obsolete among advanced civilizations. We, again, apologize you cannot keep up with the rest of modern society.


We are superior to we, yet we have concepts of sin, and morality. We apologize to you, for you cannot keep us with us. But, that would be an insincere apology, because we do not care about you, your nation, or your people.

The LGBT, and all lesbians, gays, bisexuals, and transgenders have been dispatched (killed off) during the War on Heresy. Praise be to God for that beautiful attainment, and we are proud of what we have done to the Heretics.
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Postby Old Beringia » Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:19 pm

Agymnum wrote:
Old Beringia wrote:No that is false. No one is ever afforded equal treatment and the very thought that it's possible or even a mention of the scenario is ignorant. Homosexuals, like any sexually deviant individual, don't deserve an equal chance.


Feel free to believe what you must. Oh yes, the rate just went up 10%.

Our scientists control about a third of your research sector. Think about that for a second before you go around spewing hatred and ignorance.

Homosexuality, or any sort of sexual deviancy for that matter, is illegal and against the teachings of the God-Empress.
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Postby Casanovak » Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:20 pm

Nordengrund wrote:We see it as disgusting and disturbing and many RL nations fell because of homosexuality and sexual perversion.

No offense to the pro- gay nations out there, but we see legalization of homosexuality as the opposite of progress.


Firstly, when most people say 'sexual perversion' they mean necrophilia or bestiality. I assume that your meaning of sexual perversion is homosexuality, and everything else that LGBT stands for. Also, what countries have 'fallen' to homosexuality? You make it sound like a disease, which it is not. There is scientific research that shows that homosexuality is neither a disease or inherited.

And finally, how is it the opposite of progress? Surely, equal rights for all would be progression? What is your definition of progress? I ask these questions out of curiousity, because my idea of progression is equal rights and equal marriages for all. Anyway, 'disgusting' and 'disturbing' is a moral point of view. Take away your personal views and morals, and what is homosexuality, and everything else in LGBT, in your remaining opinion?

Either way, towns and states do not count. You said 'countries', not towns or states. The Roman Empire fell because of the dividing into East and West Roman Empires, and the fact that 'barbarians' were attacking, and the Romans were too weak to fight them.
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Postby Nordengrund » Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:21 pm

Conscentia wrote:
Nordengrund wrote:
Soddom and Gammorah, Roman Empire, Jericho, Ninevah, the British Empire (that one is a joke)


Sodom & Gomorrah? Not nations. Towns. And No.
Roman Empire? No! Why would you think that?
Jericho??? Nivevah??? What? Those aren't nations.


Ninevah was a city, part of a country, so it is still a civilization.

Jericho was both a city and a country.

So was Sodom and Gamorrah

Roman Empire had orgies.
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Postby Saint Alexander » Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:22 pm

Abatael wrote:
Saint Alexander wrote:
My country considers your to be Unenlightened and foolish. We pity your people :(


Likewise.

Agymnum wrote:
We are sorry your nation is too inferior and barbarous to treat all people as equals.


Your feelings are worthless. You are inferior, barbarous, and ignorant to believe all people are equal, for they are not, not will they ever.

Agymnum wrote:
Their technology was inferior and barbaric, but their people were open-minded and for that we commend them.

Abatael is both technologically behind us and socially barbarous. We apologize they cannot keep up with the rest of society.


I am fairly, if not wholly sure, that we are technologically superior to you. We find your social policies socially barbarous. We are ahead of "the rest of society."

Agymnum wrote:
The sooner your people realize that all sapient species were created equal and can achieve equally given proper care and resources, your ignorance won't be an issue.


People were created equal, but it is not that way now.

Agymnum wrote:
The concept of sin and morality is another which is obsolete among advanced civilizations. We, again, apologize you cannot keep up with the rest of modern society.


We are superior to we, yet we have concepts of sin, and morality. We apologize to you, for you cannot keep us with us. But, that would be an insincere apology, because we do not care about you, your nation, or your people.

The LGBT, and all lesbians, gays, bisexuals, and transgenders have been dispatched (killed off) during the War on Heresy. Praise be to God for that beautiful attainment, and we are proud of what we have done to the Heretics.


Very well, I, as King, declare war on your nation! We will not stop until your barbaric, Unenlightened government has been wiped from the face of the earth and replaced with a tolerant and fair government.

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Postby Conscentia » Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:23 pm

Nordengrund wrote:
Conscentia wrote:
Sodom & Gomorrah? Not nations. Towns. And No.
Roman Empire? No! Why would you think that?
Jericho??? Nivevah??? What? Those aren't nations.


Ninevah was a city, part of a country, so it is still a civilization.

Jericho was both a city and a country.

So was Sodom and Gamorrah

Roman Empire had orgies.


I have no idea what Ninevah is.

Jericho: A town in Palestine, on the West Bank, north of the Dead Sea. According to the Bible, Jericho was a Canaanite city destroyed by the Israelites after they crossed the Jordan River into the Promised Land. Occupied by the Israelis since the Six Day War of 1967, it was the first area given partial autonomy under the PLO–Israeli peace accord in 1994
Not a country.

Sodom & Gomorrah were towns not countries.

That did not result in the collapse of the Roman Empire.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:24 pm

Nordengrund wrote:[
Roman Empire had orgies.

*ahem* We do not know why you keep referencing the fictional Roman Empire, but it is of note that they maintained an opinion that homosexuality was unfit for gentlemen, and only domination in such an act was remotely acceptable. Orgies were mostly of the homosexual variety.

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Postby Nordengrund » Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:25 pm

Conscentia wrote:
Nordengrund wrote:
Ninevah was a city, part of a country, so it is still a civilization.

Jericho was both a city and a country.

So was Sodom and Gamorrah

Roman Empire had orgies.


I have no idea what Ninevah is.

Jericho: A town in Palestine, on the West Bank, north of the Dead Sea. According to the Bible, Jericho was a Canaanite city destroyed by the Israelites after they crossed the Jordan River into the Promised Land. Occupied by the Israelis since the Six Day War of 1967, it was the first area given partial autonomy under the PLO–Israeli peace accord in 1994
Not a country.

Sodom & Gomorrah were towns not countries.

That did not result in the collapse of the Roman Empire.


Ninevah was the capital city of the Assyrian Empire. It was so wicked, that God planned to destroy it, so he sent Jonah. Jonah converted them and for awhile they followed God. Then they reverted to their sinful ways and were annihilated.
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Postby Linux and the X » Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:25 pm

Esconsha wrote:In Esconsha, lgbt people are put into reeducation camps and forced to work hard hours while being brainwashed. If that does not work, they are lined up and shot. lgbt people are forbidden in Esconsha.

Sprits wrote:LGBT people are disgusting, criminals in every sense of the word. Sprits throws homosexuals into prison for a minimum punishment of 10 years and a maximum punishment of death, depending on the level of homosexual behavior.

Esperanza Perdida wrote:All homosexuals in the Armed Republic of Esperanza Perdida are publicly executed. We do not allow such diseases spreading throughout this glorious country.

Ulvena wrote:Illegal IF they marry due to an Amendment in the Constitution that labels marriage as: A union between one male and one female that has been approved by the government. The Ulvenan people also find LGBT people to be strange and not normal. Of course, between ponies, it's a lot more accepted but still very frowned upon.

The Third Nova Terra of Scrin wrote:The public sees LGBT as humans also and tolerating but the government and the Church condemns homosexuality and transgenderism. Homosexuality and transgenderism is condemned by the government, the Church and community values albeit still tolerating to gays, lesbians and transexuals seeing them as men? or women? with the same equal rights that should be given to them, however what they are doing is wrong and is a sin against God.

To bisexuals, the government and the Church is more tolerating but encourages bisexuals not to go Lady Gaga and choose their dominant gender and so bisexuals must have a firm stand whether they will live like a man or a woman and a lifestyle of one living with two sexes or sexualities- Bisexuality is nonetheless condemned and discouraged.

However, sexual intercourse between gays, lesbians, transexuals are illegal and condemned. Bisexuals can live free, they just need to decide whether they are man or woman.

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Zokoria wrote:Homosexuality and homosexuals in general are extremely frowned upon and detestable in Zokoria. It is also criminalized and punishable by a life sentence in prison or even execution by the firing squad. Same-sex marriages also carry the same penalty.

We don't like gays in Zokoria, because we're a Christian nation. There might be other countries that accept homosexuals, but we have no choice but to obey God's laws.

Same here. If some liberal heathen country has a problem with this, they can read the Leviticus.

Sardine World wrote:Homosexuals are killed whatever way the govt decides. Because they are disgusting in the eyes of Sardine World. There are very strict requirements you must meet in order to be excused from punishment.

starvation, shot, frozen, gas chamber, whatever feels right at the time, either way they end up dead.

Abatael wrote:There is no LGBT, thank God. Homosexuality, and all its related iniquities are illegal, and punishable by death.


Oh fucking really?
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Postby Abatael » Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:26 pm

Saint Alexander wrote:
Abatael wrote:
Likewise.



Your feelings are worthless. You are inferior, barbarous, and ignorant to believe all people are equal, for they are not, not will they ever.



I am fairly, if not wholly sure, that we are technologically superior to you. We find your social policies socially barbarous. We are ahead of "the rest of society."



People were created equal, but it is not that way now.



We are superior to we, yet we have concepts of sin, and morality. We apologize to you, for you cannot keep us with us. But, that would be an insincere apology, because we do not care about you, your nation, or your people.

The LGBT, and all lesbians, gays, bisexuals, and transgenders have been dispatched (killed off) during the War on Heresy. Praise be to God for that beautiful attainment, and we are proud of what we have done to the Heretics.


Very well, I, as King, declare war on your nation! We will not stop until your barbaric, Unenlightened government has been wiped from the face of the earth and replaced with a tolerant and fair government.


I refuse to participate in your "war."
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Postby The Quadruple Alliance » Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:27 pm

The Four Kingdoms of Midgardia, Crustonia, Totambu, and Bryheath do not care about sexual orientation (the LGB), and the major/state religion, the Dapper Decorum has no stance on the matter either. The one exception would be if a Royal was Gay, in which case they'd be legally and religiously encouraged to take an opposite-sex partner as a Royal Consort to give birth to more heirs. Being a gay monarch is harder, but not impossible.

As for Transgender. THIS is a bit more controversial. The Kingdoms and Alliance itself do not have a stance on the matter. The Decorum, however, with its focus on Gentlemanlyness and possessing virtues typically ascribed to the masculine gender, is known to Support Female-To-Male Transitions, and Discourage Male-To-Female transitions. The Decorum states that it IS possible to be female and/or identify as female and still be a proper gentleman, but there seems to be an underlying assertion by the dapper clergy that identifying as a male is the best.
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Postby Conscentia » Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:28 pm

Nordengrund wrote:
Conscentia wrote:
I have no idea what Ninevah is.

Jericho: A town in Palestine, on the West Bank, north of the Dead Sea. According to the Bible, Jericho was a Canaanite city destroyed by the Israelites after they crossed the Jordan River into the Promised Land. Occupied by the Israelis since the Six Day War of 1967, it was the first area given partial autonomy under the PLO–Israeli peace accord in 1994
Not a country.

Sodom & Gomorrah were towns not countries.

That did not result in the collapse of the Roman Empire.


Ninevah was the capital city of the Assyrian Empire.


Assyrian Empire collapsed because their religion claimed that if the Assyria ever lost a battle, then the world would end. Eventually they lost a battle, the world did not end, and so understandable the Empire destabilised.
It had nothing to do with homsexuality.

Seriously, who teaches you history?
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Postby Saint Alexander » Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:29 pm

Abatael wrote:
Saint Alexander wrote:
Very well, I, as King, declare war on your nation! We will not stop until your barbaric, Unenlightened government has been wiped from the face of the earth and replaced with a tolerant and fair government.


I refuse to participate in your "war."


Then you declare Alexandria the victor and that we are the righteous while you and your false god are all endorsers of genocide? Good, it proves you can not face justice and, as such, are unworthy of my attention.

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Postby Abatael » Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:29 pm

Linux and the X wrote:
Esconsha wrote:In Esconsha, lgbt people are put into reeducation camps and forced to work hard hours while being brainwashed. If that does not work, they are lined up and shot. lgbt people are forbidden in Esconsha.

Sprits wrote:LGBT people are disgusting, criminals in every sense of the word. Sprits throws homosexuals into prison for a minimum punishment of 10 years and a maximum punishment of death, depending on the level of homosexual behavior.

Esperanza Perdida wrote:All homosexuals in the Armed Republic of Esperanza Perdida are publicly executed. We do not allow such diseases spreading throughout this glorious country.

Ulvena wrote:Illegal IF they marry due to an Amendment in the Constitution that labels marriage as: A union between one male and one female that has been approved by the government. The Ulvenan people also find LGBT people to be strange and not normal. Of course, between ponies, it's a lot more accepted but still very frowned upon.

The Third Nova Terra of Scrin wrote:The public sees LGBT as humans also and tolerating but the government and the Church condemns homosexuality and transgenderism. Homosexuality and transgenderism is condemned by the government, the Church and community values albeit still tolerating to gays, lesbians and transexuals seeing them as men? or women? with the same equal rights that should be given to them, however what they are doing is wrong and is a sin against God.

To bisexuals, the government and the Church is more tolerating but encourages bisexuals not to go Lady Gaga and choose their dominant gender and so bisexuals must have a firm stand whether they will live like a man or a woman and a lifestyle of one living with two sexes or sexualities- Bisexuality is nonetheless condemned and discouraged.

However, sexual intercourse between gays, lesbians, transexuals are illegal and condemned. Bisexuals can live free, they just need to decide whether they are man or woman.

Reckhozess wrote:Same here. If some liberal heathen country has a problem with this, they can read the Leviticus.

Sardine World wrote:Homosexuals are killed whatever way the govt decides. Because they are disgusting in the eyes of Sardine World. There are very strict requirements you must meet in order to be excused from punishment.

starvation, shot, frozen, gas chamber, whatever feels right at the time, either way they end up dead.

Abatael wrote:There is no LGBT, thank God. Homosexuality, and all its related iniquities are illegal, and punishable by death.


Oh fucking really?


Do you really think the WA can compel me to do something? We're in violation of approximately 1/3 of all Resolutions.

What a fucking joke.
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Postby Nordengrund » Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:30 pm

Saint Alexander wrote:
Abatael wrote:
I refuse to participate in your "war."


Then you declare Alexandria the victor and that we are the righteous while you and your false god are all endorsers of genocide? Good, it proves you can not face justice and, as such, are unworthy of my attention.


He did not participate, so no one won. To have a war and a victor, both nations must agree to the war and the terms to the war.
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Postby Saint Alexander » Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:31 pm

Nordengrund wrote:
Saint Alexander wrote:
Then you declare Alexandria the victor and that we are the righteous while you and your false god are all endorsers of genocide? Good, it proves you can not face justice and, as such, are unworthy of my attention.


He did not participate, so no one won. To have a war and a victor, both nations must agree to the war and the terms to the war.


I didn't win a war, true, but I won the argument ^^
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Postby Linux and the X » Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:31 pm

Abatael wrote:
Linux and the X wrote:







Oh fucking really?


Do you really think the WA can compel me to do something? I'm in violation of approximately 1/3 of all Resolutions.

What a fucking joke.

Actually, you're not; compliance is mandatory. Don't like it, resign.
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Postby Abatael » Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:32 pm

Saint Alexander wrote:
Abatael wrote:
I refuse to participate in your "war."


Then you declare Alexandria the victor and that we are the righteous while you and your false god are all endorsers of genocide? Good, it proves you can not face justice and, as such, are unworthy of my attention.


It means we will not recognize the war ever happening, your alleged victory over us, or this ever happening. We are literally ignoring this. This will be the last post concerning this.
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2357. Homosexuality refers to relations between men or between women who experience an exclusive or predominant sexual attraction toward persons of the same sex. It has taken a great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures. Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained. Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity, tradition has always declared that "homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered." They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved.

2358. The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God's will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord's Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition.

2359. Homosexual persons are called to chastity. By the virtues of self-mastery that teach them inner freedom, at times by the support of disinterested friendship, by prayer and sacramental grace, they can and should gradually and resolutely approach Christian perfection.
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Postby Abatael » Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:33 pm

Linux and the X wrote:
Abatael wrote:
Do you really think the WA can compel me to do something? I'm in violation of approximately 1/3 of all Resolutions.

What a fucking joke.

Actually, you're not; compliance is mandatory. Don't like it, resign.


Actually, it's not. I have no intention to resign, and I will not comply with the Resolutions. Don't like it, take it up with someone, who isn't me.
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Conscentia
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Founded: Feb 04, 2011
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Postby Conscentia » Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:34 pm

Abatael wrote:
Linux and the X wrote:Actually, you're not; compliance is mandatory. Don't like it, resign.


Actually, it's not. I have no intention to resign, and I will not comply with the Resolutions. Don't like it, take it up with someone, who isn't mean.


...Well, technically it is. Your NS stats change with resolutions, a resolution could see your WA category change, etc.

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Saint Alexander
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Founded: Jan 11, 2012
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Postby Saint Alexander » Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:35 pm

Abatael wrote:
Saint Alexander wrote:
Then you declare Alexandria the victor and that we are the righteous while you and your false god are all endorsers of genocide? Good, it proves you can not face justice and, as such, are unworthy of my attention.


It means we will not recognize the war ever happening, your alleged victory over us, or this ever happening. We are literally ignoring this. This will be the last post concerning this.


I agree, this will be the last. I could best you in a war so easily and you would be forced to comply with my tolerant, educated people. I can understand your fear, and I feel sorry for someone like you, who will not engage in a fair fight in the name of justice and equality for all. History shall remember you as dishonorable and unjust while my nation shall thrive and watch yours deteriorate. Have fun ^^

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Abatael
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Founded: Mar 03, 2012
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Postby Abatael » Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:37 pm

Conscentia wrote:
Abatael wrote:
Actually, it's not. I have no intention to resign, and I will not comply with the Resolutions. Don't like it, take it up with someone, who isn't me.


...Well, technically it is. Your NS stats change with resolutions, a resolution could see your WA category change, etc.


I can RP, and give IC information without regard to the Resolution, which is what I am doing right now. I assumed we would be in the same field of discussion. I am talking about IC, and RP stuff right now.
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