Legalization of Homosexuality in Britennene.

[Vettrera]

why aren't you treating the gays (in your country) the at you'd want to be grated then. Are your morals conflicting with the bible? Ehh whatever, This war comes down to Britennene and Cruciland or whoever's willingness to pursue it

[Greater Oronti]

OOC: Now I must out me as a newbie... what is MT?

Modern TEch (basically the same resources as to what the world has now)

And nobody should have an RP Pop. that's bigger than their WA pop. but having a Smaller RP Pop than their WA pop. is allowed, correct?

And I believe that Britennene, Vettrera, Utopic Germany, and Patroclus are on one side (+ Des-Bal?)
with
Zokoria, Nordengrund, and Cruciland on the other

with the rest being Neutral-Leaning
did I miss anything?

Technically I am (grudgingly) on Britennene's side, though no formal declaration of war has gone out from my end. Although seizing the persons and assets of foreign nations and throwing the people into concentra...I mean internment camps probably doesn't count as a neutral action.

[Nordengrund]

Modern TEch (basically the same resources as to what the world has now)

And nobody should have an RP Pop. that's bigger than their WA pop. but having a Smaller RP Pop than their WA pop. is allowed, correct?

And I believe that Britennene, Vettrera, Utopic Germany, and Patroclus are on one side (+ Des-Bal?)
with
Zokoria, Nordengrund, and Cruciland on the other

with the rest being Neutral-Leaning
did I miss anything?

Well, I dropped out. I am not taking sides, at least not for now.

Technically I am (grudgingly) on Britennene's side, though no formal declaration of war has gone out from my end. Although seizing the persons and assets of foreign nations and throwing the people into concentra...I mean internment camps probably doesn't count as a neutral action.

[Cruciland]

OOC: A proper place for the actual RP

viewtopic.php?ns=1&f=5&t=192522

Guys, if you must RP, go here. Just bumping his statement for you to see.

[Scinan]

OOC, just putting this out here, maybe it would be cool to not start a war thread without the OP on a subject the OP has stated more than once they'd rather not get into a war RP over...? This seems to have run away with folks.

[Great Kingdom of Calomo]

The Calomo government expresses its approvement on the law legalizing homosexual acts.

Everyone has the same rights.

Yours sincerely,

[Cruciland]

WHAT TECH LEVEL IS THIS?

[Albion Rhodesia]

OOC: MT I believe

[Zokoria]

This is OOC now

OCC: Alright, I decided to leave the pro- LGBT nations alone because we believe I should treat others the way I want to be treated. We still oppose homosexuality and view it with disgust, but we recognize the right for Britenenne and Patroclus to rule themselves. Also, we have failed to realize sooner that condemning people does not solve anything, and if you are not grudgeful, we would like to work things out. Killing homosexuals because of their sexual preference makes us as bad as Hitler or the Crusaders. Homosexuality is still outlawed in Nordengrund and they still face jail time, but if a nation wants to legalize homosexuality, we respect that so long as it does not interfere with my nation.

OOC: Although I'm very liberal on political views, the war against Britenenne will still go on ICly. We need military aid for the invasion, but I respect Nordengrund's decision not to send aid to us.

By the way, I am actually pro-gay marriage and pro-LGBT rights. And also a Brony.

[Albion Rhodesia]

OOC: So Zokoria will be leading the Anti-Britennene coalition then?

[Gideus]

To: Whoever may be in power/seat of government/seats of government of Britennene
From: The Councils and People of the Allied States of Gideus
LETTER

The Allied States of Gideus wish to congratulate the Britennenan(Sorry if that's the wrong adjective) government on such a wonderful breakthrough.

In the Allied States of Gideus, we have long understood that discrimination is wrong, and we have long worked to eliminate it. As our nation has become increasingly pro-equality of all sorts, we have seen the true faces of the world more and more. The fact that nations such as Cruciland and Nordengruund would go to war or enact trade embargoes upon someone for something that affects them not in the least is ridiculous. We feel sorry for any who reside within such nations against their will.

Furthermore, we wish to send you a reasonable amount of supplies to aid the construction of "Gay Bars"; we will also give you the contact information to the man who designed and built Gideus's most popular and famous "Gay Bar"; the Cockpit near Gideus City Airport.

We wish you the best, and should these abhorrent nations choose to take further offense at you simply having Equality on the agenda, we can assure you that the Audisian Alliance of the Audus region will back you up. We may have our differences, but we all agree on equality at the least.

-The Entirety of the Gidean Councils

P.S. - I'd love to go on a tour of your newly established gay bars with a few friends. - Alisin Mions, Head of the Foreign Relations Council
P.P.S - Any alliance you would like to form would be eagerly sought after by the Gidean Councils. - Isaiah Kobbs, Head of the Defense Council

OOC: Cruciland, Nordengruund, etc., do not take offense to me calling you abhorrent as you can not read this message as it is a letter

[Oneracon]

OFFICIAL DIPLOMATIC COMMUNIQUÉ

TO: The People's Democracy of Britennene
FR: The Hon. Preston Forthwright, Minister of International Relations and NGO Coordination
CC: <None>

To whom it may concern:

His Royal Majesty the King of Oneracon and HRM's government wish to extend sincere congratulations to The People's Democracy of Britennene and Chairman Alexei Ivanov on the occasion of repealing archaic laws which discriminate against LGBTQ persons.

As a nation dedicated to the advancement of human equality around the world we are pleased to count Britennene as a new comrade in the recognition of rights for all persons, regardless of sexual orientation.

Most sincerely,

SIGNED
The Hon. Preston Forthwright, MHA
Minister of International Relations and NGO Coordination

[Nordengrund]

To: Whoever may be in power/seat of government/seats of government of Britennene
From: The Councils and People of the Allied States of Gideus
LETTER

The Allied States of Gideus wish to congratulate the Britennenan(Sorry if that's the wrong adjective) government on such a wonderful breakthrough.

In the Allied States of Gideus, we have long understood that discrimination is wrong, and we have long worked to eliminate it. As our nation has become increasingly pro-equality of all sorts, we have seen the true faces of the world more and more. The fact that nations such as Cruciland and Nordengruund would go to war or enact trade embargoes upon someone for something that affects them not in the least is ridiculous. We feel sorry for any who reside within such nations against their will.

Furthermore, we wish to send you a reasonable amount of supplies to aid the construction of "Gay Bars"; we will also give you the contact information to the man who designed and built Gideus's most popular and famous "Gay Bar"; the Cockpit near Gideus City Airport.

We wish you the best, and should these abhorrent nations choose to take further offense at you simply having Equality on the agenda, we can assure you that the Audisian Alliance of the Audus region will back you up. We may have our differences, but we all agree on equality at the least.

-The Entirety of the Gidean Councils

P.S. - I'd love to go on a tour of your newly established gay bars with a few friends. - Alisin Mions, Head of the Foreign Relations Council
P.P.S - Any alliance you would like to form would be eagerly sought after by the Gidean Councils. - Isaiah Kobbs, Head of the Defense Council

OOC: Cruciland, Nordengruund, etc., do not take offense to me calling you abhorrent as you can not read this message as it is a letter

FYI, we do not make people live here against their will. People are willing to live here because they are sick of secularism and immorality.

[Betalia]

ooc: I intend to involve myself in this conflict on the side of Britennene.

[Gideus]

To: Whoever may be in power/seat of government/seats of government of Britennene
From: The Councils and People of the Allied States of Gideus
LETTER

The Allied States of Gideus wish to congratulate the Britennenan(Sorry if that's the wrong adjective) government on such a wonderful breakthrough.

In the Allied States of Gideus, we have long understood that discrimination is wrong, and we have long worked to eliminate it. As our nation has become increasingly pro-equality of all sorts, we have seen the true faces of the world more and more. The fact that nations such as Cruciland and Nordengruund would go to war or enact trade embargoes upon someone for something that affects them not in the least is ridiculous. We feel sorry for any who reside within such nations against their will.

Furthermore, we wish to send you a reasonable amount of supplies to aid the construction of "Gay Bars"; we will also give you the contact information to the man who designed and built Gideus's most popular and famous "Gay Bar"; the Cockpit near Gideus City Airport.

We wish you the best, and should these abhorrent nations choose to take further offense at you simply having Equality on the agenda, we can assure you that the Audisian Alliance of the Audus region will back you up. We may have our differences, but we all agree on equality at the least.

-The Entirety of the Gidean Councils

P.S. - I'd love to go on a tour of your newly established gay bars with a few friends. - Alisin Mions, Head of the Foreign Relations Council
P.P.S - Any alliance you would like to form would be eagerly sought after by the Gidean Councils. - Isaiah Kobbs, Head of the Defense Council

OOC: Cruciland, Nordengruund, etc., do not take offense to me calling you abhorrent as you can not read this message as it is a letter

FYI, we do not make people live here against their will. People are willing to live here because they are sick of secularism and immorality.

OOC: It matters to you why...? You aren't supposed to have read that ICly anyways. Besides, what would your opinion on a Muslim theocracy be? They have no secularism and if they adhere to their religion as you claim to, there would be no "immorality". Sorry if this is considered threadjack.

[Ruffneken]

To: Governemnt of Britennene
From: Imperial Federation of Ruffneken

we would like to support your move in supporting and legalizing homosexuality and would wish to increase our trade volume to replace the amount you are losing from other nations also will support if a war occurs but a telegram to us asking for support and our units will be sent to help.

Best regards
High Lord
Veritias

[Britennene]

We congratulate Britenne as now their civil freedoms are higher. And to all those fascists and religious freaks, whats wrong with gays? They are people too and the only difference is that they have different sexual preferences.

Yes, but it is immoral and the Bible speaks against it. Interracial marriage is not immoral.

The bible also promotes having many wives.

[Britennene]

:eyebrow: why aren't you treating the gays (in your country) the at you'd want to be grated then. Are your morals conflicting with the bible? Ehh whatever, This war comes down to Britennene and Cruciland or whoever's willingness to pursue it

No. We simply thought than homosexuality was generated by Capitalism, and should not exist in Socialism. We were wrong.

[Britennene]

OCC: Alright, I decided to leave the pro- LGBT nations alone because we believe I should treat others the way I want to be treated. We still oppose homosexuality and view it with disgust, but we recognize the right for Britenenne and Patroclus to rule themselves. Also, we have failed to realize sooner that condemning people does not solve anything, and if you are not grudgeful, we would like to work things out. Killing homosexuals because of their sexual preference makes us as bad as Hitler or the Crusaders. Homosexuality is still outlawed in Nordengrund and they still face jail time, but if a nation wants to legalize homosexuality, we respect that so long as it does not interfere with my nation.

OOC: Although I'm very liberal on political views, the war against Britenenne will still go on ICly. We need military aid for the invasion, but I respect Nordengrund's decision not to send aid to us.

By the way, I am actually pro-gay marriage and pro-LGBT rights. And also a Brony.

OOC: I'd like to know what 'war' you people are speaking of. If one comes, I certainly am not joining it. The LGBT issue is such that not even Saudi Arabia would suddenly assault, say Iran for legalizing homosexuality. This is as far from a military subject as you can get.
Also, Britennenean lands are very defended. Our military may not be large, but our tech levels are extreme, and our borders are the main position of the army. And the populace of Britennene is known of taking up arms themselves to fight off any invaders. Especially of a subject like this. This subject simply isn't as important enough to lose Britennenean national sovereignity.

Good to hear. I've noticed most of the militaristic Anti-gay RPers here are so.

[Des-Bal]

OOC: I'd like to know what 'war' you people are speaking of. If one comes, I certainly am not joining it. The LGBT issue is such that not even Saudi Arabia would suddenly assault, say Iran for legalizing homosexuality. This is as far from a military subject as you can get.
Also, Britennenean lands are very defended. Our military may not be large, but our tech levels are extreme, and our borders are the main position of the army. And the populace of Britennene is known of taking up arms themselves to fight off any invaders. Especially of a subject like this. This subject simply isn't as important enough to lose Britennenean national sovereignity.

Good to hear. I've noticed most of the militaristic Anti-gay RPers here are so.

OOC: Yeah a couple of guys declared war on you and in typical fashion it turned into a dogpile either way it's moot if you refuse to consent to it.

[Britennene]

OOC:Attention, posters. Any war that would be ongoing on Britennenean land is declined. This is simply not radical enough to turn into a war. Plus, I was camping from Thursday to Monday, so I could not post. Anyhow, keep the debate going. I'll try to answer all posts.

[Luw]

Pro-homosexuality