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The Huskar Social Union
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:50 am

"The Huskar Social Union here by announces its support of this move by the Government of Britennene. We are pleased with this advancment in civil liberties and rights and believes that the state of Britennene is on the right path to becoming a true socialist workers country of equal brotherhood amongst the people in the face of Discrimination"

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Postby Britennene » Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:57 am

Nordengrund wrote:
Britennene wrote:
Britennene is still confused about your radical point on homosexuality. To us, it is simply a small legalization with nothing harmful in it. To you, it seems like the end of the world. I shall blame cultural heritage for this. As we Britenneneans are far more radical on economic than social areas, it seems your radicality is on the social side.
We hope a war will not occur simply because of honest Britenneneans getting married.

-Vladili Medveests.


We mean no hostilities. We admit we freaked out about your view on homosexuality. We see it as immoral and a disgrace to humanity, but we will be willing to negotiate about lifting the trade embargo if you are willing to negotiate about outlawing homosexuality.


General polling has shown 70% of Britenneneans support the legalization. Under 20 years ago homosexuals were hanged in Britennene. It is time for us to pay back. We cannot reward or punish people for their natural sexuality, and we cannot negotiate of outlawing it. It would mean mass anti-government parades, which we cannot touch anymore.

So no. We cannot withdraw our opinions.

-Vladili Medveests.

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Postby Alte Koniggratz » Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:03 am

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The Kaiserliche Reich of Alte Koniggratz
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To the Government of Britennene;



The Entire Kaiserliche Reich of Alte-Koniggratz would like to congratulate you, your country, and your people on its progressive movement towards increasing tolerance and a greater sense of equality. The battle for the rights of all members of the LGBT community has been a long fought battle, especially here in Alte-Koniggratz, and we congratulate you on following in the footsteps of many great nations. Unfortunately, as you can already see from foreign governments responses, We still have a long way to go internationally.

In addition, I think you'll be pleased to discover that I am a member of the Union of Equality and Freedom, a group which shares the same views on equality, freedom, and tolerance as myself. We have fought besides dozens of nations such as yourself in wars in which tyranny, antiquated governments, and archaic countries have been pushed back, some even seeing the light of Equality and Tolerance in this modern world. We are more than willing to assist you should you need it.

Let it be known that the Entire Empire of The Kaiserliche Reich of Alte-Koniggratz, along with the Union of Equality and Freedom, will stand by your country. If you need any assistance, whether that be militarily or not, Feel free to contact us at a moments notice. We do not forget good deeds such as this.

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~Kaiser Leopold Karl Albrecht Hohenzollern
~~Prime Minister Johann Emmerich Wulfstrasse
~~Field Marshal Gottfried Theodor Viktor.
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Postby Kiylar » Wed Jul 25, 2012 12:15 pm

The People, and Government of Kiylar are delighted that homosexuality has been legalised in Britennene. Many of our politicians and political parties congratulate you.

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Kananistan
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Postby Kananistan » Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:00 pm

The Supreme Council for the Restoration of Kananistan condemns Britennene's insane decision to condone such immoral sexual practices.
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Postby Albion Rhodesia » Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:14 pm

From the Desk of the Foreign Secretary:

The Dominion of Albion Rhodesia fully condemns the immoral and degenerate legislation of Britennene's Government, and furthermore the Dominion as of this date, will instate an embargo against Britennene, until such time as her government overturns such abominable legislation.

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Postby Crogach » Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:25 pm

The general reaction of the Crogacean people to this declaration has been a mix of elation at the passage of the new laws and surprise that it has taken Britennene until now to recognize the right of LGBT people to exist and live how they choose; our LGBT community here (especially those of Britennene ancestry) is celebrating this as a major step forward for full international recognition LGBT rights.

The expression of hostility toward this move by Zokoria, Rekta, Nordengrund, Kananistan, Albion Rhodesia, and Cruciland have been noted by our government and have been received with a great deal of dismay by our populace. As of this time, we are prepared to open up trade and investment negotiations with Britennene, and should the situation devolve into a war due to the actions of the nations named above we may not be able to guarantee our own neutrality.

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Omegaopterix
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Postby Omegaopterix » Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:30 pm

The government of Omegaopterix doesn't really care either way, but we are surprised that people are willing to risk war and loss of trade relations over gay rights.
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Postby Britennene » Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:49 pm

Crogach wrote:The general reaction of the Crogacean people to this declaration has been a mix of elation at the passage of the new laws and surprise that it has taken Britennene until now to recognize the right of LGBT people to exist and live how they choose; our LGBT community here (especially those of Britennene ancestry) is celebrating this as a major step forward for full international recognition LGBT rights.

The expression of hostility toward this move by Zokoria, Rekta, Nordengrund, Kananistan, Albion Rhodesia, and Cruciland have been noted by our government and have been received with a great deal of dismay by our populace. As of this time, we are prepared to open up trade and investment negotiations with Britennene, and should the situation devolve into a war due to the actions of the nations named above we may not be able to guarantee our own neutrality.


Britennene has always been underdeveloped in social areas. It wasn't until 2003 that Britennene outlawed racial profiling in crime. But with the election of Vladili Medveests as a leader of the Revolutionary Communist Party, all social areas are developing with a high speed. About 3 million gay and lesbian men and women have already been married in the Capitol of Britennene.

These countries have acted with hostility against social equality. This is the same as if a country would allow interracial marriage, and these people would come spew their hate in the same way. We don't have trade with actually any of those countries, so the embargoes won't affect Britennene economy.
Britennene would gladly open up trade with Crogach. Britennene will become a modern country!

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Postby Britennene » Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:50 pm

Omegaopterix wrote:The government of Omegaopterix doesn't really care either way, but we are surprised that people are willing to risk war and loss of trade relations over gay rights.


That was our reaction.

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Postby Cruciland » Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:50 pm

Britennene wrote:
Nordengrund wrote:
We mean no hostilities. We admit we freaked out about your view on homosexuality. We see it as immoral and a disgrace to humanity, but we will be willing to negotiate about lifting the trade embargo if you are willing to negotiate about outlawing homosexuality.


General polling has shown 70% of Britenneneans support the legalization. Under 20 years ago homosexuals were hanged in Britennene. It is time for us to pay back. We cannot reward or punish people for their natural sexuality, and we cannot negotiate of outlawing it. It would mean mass anti-government parades, which we cannot touch anymore.

So no. We cannot withdraw our opinions.

-Vladili Medveests.

Even with foreign military support and a booming economy from trade deals?
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Postby Nordengrund » Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:52 pm

We encourage you to abolish homosexulity or you will (and already have) develop many hostilities. Please, do it for the good of your country on the international level.
1 John 1:9

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Britennene
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Postby Britennene » Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:53 pm

Cruciland wrote:
Britennene wrote:
General polling has shown 70% of Britenneneans support the legalization. Under 20 years ago homosexuals were hanged in Britennene. It is time for us to pay back. We cannot reward or punish people for their natural sexuality, and we cannot negotiate of outlawing it. It would mean mass anti-government parades, which we cannot touch anymore.

So no. We cannot withdraw our opinions.

-Vladili Medveests.

Even with foreign military support and a booming economy from trade deals?


We cannot simply stop developing. Our country has been a black sheep of Socialist nations from the 20th century, and must not remain so. We will not accept any trade from Capitalist countries. Not even if we were homophobic. We will boom our economy soon, but first we need to finish Social Conservatism.

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Postby Zimbezia » Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:55 pm

"How Britennene governs itself is of no consequence to anyone but the citizens thereof; however, we view this decision with regret. Homosexuality is an aberration, a carnal crime against the laws of nature and our Creator. This vice, so often mislabeled a "choice," is known to rend the fabric of familial stability; undermine religious faith; foster corruption, crime, and decadence; and bring about the ruin of nations. The best solution to homosexuality is not to excuse or punish their behavior, but to pray for their repentance."

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Britennene
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Postby Britennene » Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:56 pm

Nordengrund wrote:We encourage you to abolish homosexulity or you will (and already have) develop many hostilities. Please, do it for the good of your country on the international level.


One cannot simply abolish homosexuality. We'll rather get aid from non-homophobic developed states than homophobic underdeveloped states. Britennene will not be a puppet of Globalism. We do not care about hostilities, we care about whetever or not our people are happy. And they are very happy with this legalization.

Britennene has pumped out all foreign bankers. The last thing we want is them wanting us back.

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Postby Nordengrund » Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:01 pm

Please, for the good of God and familial stability, abolish it, have them repent, and uphold the Christian morals.
1 John 1:9

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Postby Britennene » Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:05 pm

Nordengrund wrote:Please, for the good of God and familial stability, abolish it, have them repent, and uphold the Christian morals.


Britennene has abolished all religious interference in politics. 85% of the populace is Atheist. The only religious party in government is the Christian Communist Party, and it has no real power. God is not loved here, and will not be loved. We trust in science and logic.

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Postby Patroclus » Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:08 pm

Nordengrund wrote:Please, for the good of God and familial stability, abolish it, have them repent, and uphold the Christian morals.


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Der Kaiser spricht:

"Gott liebt alle Menschen, unabhängig von sexueller Präferenz. Was Sie sagen ist einfach falsch."


The Emperor speaks:

"God loves all humans, regardless of sexual preference. What you're saying is simply incorrect."
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Postby Nordengrund » Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:13 pm

Patroclus wrote:
Nordengrund wrote:Please, for the good of God and familial stability, abolish it, have them repent, and uphold the Christian morals.


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Der Kaiser spricht:

"Gott liebt alle Menschen, unabhängig von sexueller Präferenz. Was Sie sagen ist einfach falsch."


The Emperor speaks:

"God loves all humans, regardless of sexual preference. What you're saying is simply incorrect."


You are partially correct. God loves all people, even the gays, but it is not okay to be gay.
1 John 1:9

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Postby Sedikal » Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:14 pm

We support your stance on gay rights Britennene and we impose an embargo on The Federal Republic of Nordengrund.
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Postby Cruciland » Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:20 pm

Vettrera wrote:
Cruciland wrote:There is no chance. Our populace and defense forces still are greater, our economy massive, our arms manufacturing sectors and weaponization vastly superior, and our tech level towers over yours. However, your point on not becoming an anarchic wasteland is valid- we will annex you, and make you the polar opposite of that. We will TRANSCEND you out of your ashes, and restore TRUE progress! Your threats and declarations shall not spare you...

Considering how oppresive your government is, I'm fairly certain your citizens will not support you attempting to limit the rights of other nations. If war does take place, Vettrera will help Britennene.

Vettrera also opens Trade Agreements between Britennene & Vettrera

Oppressive? We beg to differ! The common misconception of our disloyalty to the government is because people often value freedom and equality. We, the Crucilandians, favor order and morality instead. That said, we are soulbound to carry out our inquisition, and logicbound to undo evil. You have our fist, Vettrera. You have our iron fist...

Britennene wrote:
Cruciland wrote:Even with foreign military support and a booming economy from trade deals?


We cannot simply stop developing. Our country has been a black sheep of Socialist nations from the 20th century, and must not remain so. We will not accept any trade from Capitalist countries. Not even if we were homophobic. We will boom our economy soon, but first we need to finish Social Conservatism.

Then do not be a socialist nation. Rise up, and ascend with us. You don't have to destroy yourself to appeal to the destroyed. You hate oppression, yet you oppress your country's chances of ever becoming a true utopia. Mark our experience and remembrance of history- your path is too dark.
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Postby Patroclus » Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:20 pm

Nordengrund wrote:
Patroclus wrote:


Der Kaiser spricht:

"Gott liebt alle Menschen, unabhängig von sexueller Präferenz. Was Sie sagen ist einfach falsch."


The Emperor speaks:

"God loves all humans, regardless of sexual preference. What you're saying is simply incorrect."


You are partially correct. God loves all people, even the gays, but it is not okay to be gay.


It is so. Being able to allow other people not to follow the word of your god, or to follow their own rules, is a vital part of believing in the word of the Almighty One (though, allowing homosexuality is a vital part of the Patroclite Church). And it is too in Christianity. Is it not the Bible that commands you and other followers of the Christian faith to love thy neigbour?
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Postby Nifhelmark » Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:23 pm

The Nifhelskr Government supports the legalization of same-sex marriage, as it supports equal rights for all groups. However, the hostilities this has created seem to outweigh the benefits; we suggest that you conduct your pro-homosexual legislation under the radar.

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Postby Cruciland » Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:28 pm

Patroclus wrote:
Nordengrund wrote:
You are partially correct. God loves all people, even the gays, but it is not okay to be gay.


It is so. Being able to allow other people not to follow the word of your god, or to follow their own rules, is a vital part of believing in the word of the Almighty One (though, allowing homosexuality is a vital part of the Patroclite Church). And it is too in Christianity. Is it not the Bible that commands you and other followers of the Christian faith to love thy neigbour?

"Love thy neighbor, hate thy sin" is a popular quote formed from the King James bible- the literal word-for-word translation of the ancient text. "Love is discipline" and "The basic human problem is sin" is also popular. These form the basis for our justification against homosexuality, but remind us not to kill those who harbor such sin. We must only kill the darkness inside of them. The most effective way? Assimilation.
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Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Cruciland, I just want to say, your nation is frightening.

The Inevitable Syndicate wrote:My advice to you, dear Gordano-Lysandus, is to run. Or hide. Maybe not hiding, because the Crucilandians will find you, and by their god, you will be assimilated.

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Postby Vettrera » Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:28 pm

Nordengrund wrote:Please, for the good of God and familial stability, abolish it, have them repent, and uphold the Christian morals.

Who are we to say what God will and wont do. While we are on earth we should all be treated as equals. We can let God sort out things afterwards. This is no better than racism.
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