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Postby Allens Khar » Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:45 pm

The Main weapons of the small Confederacy of Allens Khar are :

The 7.62 Multi Barrel Minigun
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The Deadly Heavy M61 Vulcan
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The FN P90
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The Makarov Pistol
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And the Stielhandgranate
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Postby Eirros » Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:48 pm

Mini-guns mow through ammo and achieve very little. Unless attached to heavily armored helicopters.

Settle for an LMG and a nice assault rifle instead? ;)
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Postby Solyhniya » Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:35 pm

UAWC wrote:
Solyhniya wrote:GV-9 (Gewehr Vlasjuk - Devjat')
АВ-9 (Ґевер Власюк - Девять)

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This battle rifle or "gewehr" as it is called in Solyhniyan (the word borrowed from German and adapted to a more specific definition) is Borys Vlasjuk's adaptation of his AV-9 design into the medium to long range realm. The GV-9 is chambered for the heavier 7.62x63 round and uses the same "balanced gas operating system" to diminish recoil, combined with a recoil controlling stock. The weapon is still in prototype stage, and the "Vojsko Solyhniji" refuses to disseminate the details of its performance at the present moment.

:clap:

Simply excellent. I do think the barrel could be just a little wider, but beyond that, this is a simply excellent rifle.


Thanks for such praise! Yeah, I reckoned someone would mention the barrel. Technically, my choice of round could fit through, but yes, I would still probably agree with you there. I reckoned it needed to be threaded though, for silencers and the like. If you ignore the thinner, threaded end, does it seem more feasible?
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Postby Uawc » Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:47 pm

Solyhniya wrote:
UAWC wrote:
Solyhniya wrote:GV-9 (Gewehr Vlasjuk - Devjat')
АВ-9 (Ґевер Власюк - Девять)

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(All mods attached)

This battle rifle or "gewehr" as it is called in Solyhniyan (the word borrowed from German and adapted to a more specific definition) is Borys Vlasjuk's adaptation of his AV-9 design into the medium to long range realm. The GV-9 is chambered for the heavier 7.62x63 round and uses the same "balanced gas operating system" to diminish recoil, combined with a recoil controlling stock. The weapon is still in prototype stage, and the "Vojsko Solyhniji" refuses to disseminate the details of its performance at the present moment.

:clap:

Simply excellent. I do think the barrel could be just a little wider, but beyond that, this is a simply excellent rifle.


Thanks for such praise! Yeah, I reckoned someone would mention the barrel. Technically, my choice of round could fit through, but yes, I would still probably agree with you there. I reckoned it needed to be threaded though, for silencers and the like. If you ignore the thinner, threaded end, does it seem more feasible?


Yeah. I think the threaded bit should be wider, if only slightly.
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Postby Nolstafvia » Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:04 pm

I've decided to post up two new designs for criticism.

The Barret ARC-99
http://i311.photobucket.com/albums/kk46 ... Arc-99.jpg

Chambered for 9.48x48mm
Semi/Burst


The NDF-SAR 17
http://i311.photobucket.com/albums/kk46 ... -HAR17.jpg

Chambered for 6.9x48mm SPD
Semi/Burst/Full
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Postby Solyhniya » Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:12 pm

Nolstafvia wrote:I've decided to post up two new designs for criticism.

The Barret ARC-99
http://i311.photobucket.com/albums/kk46 ... Arc-99.jpg

Chambered for 9.48x48mm
Semi/Burst


The NDF-SAR 17
http://i311.photobucket.com/albums/kk46 ... -HAR17.jpg

Chambered for 6.9x48mm SPD
Semi/Burst/Full


Nice, but judging by the scales of things (e.g. the magazines) these guns must be huuuge. Are they meant to be anti-materiel rifles?
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Postby Uawc » Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:19 pm

Nolstafvia wrote:I've decided to post up two new designs for criticism.

The Barret ARC-99
http://i311.photobucket.com/albums/kk46 ... Arc-99.jpg

Chambered for 9.48x48mm
Semi/Burst


Ejection port is too small. I hope the stock is adjustable/collapsing. If not, it's too short. Otherwise, I think you did a good job on this rifle. I especially like that you included burst fire.

Nolstafvia wrote:The NDF-SAR 17
http://i311.photobucket.com/albums/kk46 ... -HAR17.jpg

Chambered for 6.9x48mm SPD
Semi/Burst/Full


When I saw this, I was like, "wat"

This is too damn big for an assault rifle. Too damn big and bulky. There is no justifying an assault rifle of that size You're going to make all your soldiers look like they're compensating. Make this thing a lot smaller, then I'll give it a thumbs-up.


That's when I first saw it. Thought it was an assault rifle because the magazine does not look like it can fit anything bigger than an intermediate cartridge. Now that I actually looked and saw it fires 6.9x48, that's fine, but the magazine really is too damn small.

Also, I notice that your magazines on both rifles are both of drastically different size, yet the rounds are of the same length. :?
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Postby Eirros » Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:51 pm

Anyone mind giving feedback on my EIR-92 Constantine?
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Postby Uawc » Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:57 pm

Eirros wrote:Anyone mind giving feedback on my EIR-92 Constantine?


That magazine is ridiculously huge.
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Postby Uawc » Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:13 am

Jalanat wrote:
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The EAR-1, standard infantry weapon

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The ESMG-1, standard sidearm


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Sidearms of Solyhniya

Postby Solyhniya » Fri Feb 19, 2010 8:27 am

Spaškov SP-10
Спашков СП-10

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Constructed mainly from modern polymers, the SP-10 is a lightweight, high capacity solution as a standard military sidearm. It has a higher muzzle velocity than standard 9mm pistols whilst weighing less than a .45, providing a good middle ground. It is widely used by the army and by anti-terror units. Vlk special forces use the SP-10A variant which includes a fire selector for full auto setting.

Caliber:10mm
Weight: 780g (loaded)
Magazine capacity:
-Standard: 14 + 1
-Extended (SP-10A): 30 + 1
Fire rate (SP-10A): 800rpm


Spaškov SP-45
Спашков СП-45

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SP-45
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SP-45 Компакт
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SP-50

Caliber:
(1) .45 ACP
(2) .50 Action Express
Magazine Capacity:
(1) 12 + 1
(2) 8 +1
Weight:
(1) 988g
(2) 1280g

The SP-45 series is a heavy caliber pistol designed for law enforcement, home defense, international sales and for the selection of some special military units. Its weight means it is impractical for the army, however it is the sidearm of choice in the Solyhniyan navy.

This pistol chambered in the more widely available rounds, the .50 Action Express and the .45 ACP, making it more viable for sales abroad (compared with many Solyhniyan firearms chambered in domestically more common rounds like the 6.78 and the 10mm). The SP-45K (Кompact) is more popular with police and the armed forces and appears in .45 ACP, whereas the full-sized variant can be chambered in both rounds, with the .50 variant (the SP-50)being the more popular option for home and self-defense.
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Postby Sharada » Fri Feb 19, 2010 8:36 am

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Postby Nolstafvia » Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:47 pm

UAWC wrote:
Nolstafvia wrote:I've decided to post up two new designs for criticism.

The Barret ARC-99
http://i311.photobucket.com/albums/kk46 ... Arc-99.jpg

Chambered for 9.48x48mm
Semi/Burst


Ejection port is too small. I hope the stock is adjustable/collapsing. If not, it's too short. Otherwise, I think you did a good job on this rifle. I especially like that you included burst fire.

Nolstafvia wrote:The NDF-SAR 17
http://i311.photobucket.com/albums/kk46 ... -HAR17.jpg

Chambered for 6.9x48mm SPD
Semi/Burst/Full


When I saw this, I was like, "wat"

This is too damn big for an assault rifle. Too damn big and bulky. There is no justifying an assault rifle of that size You're going to make all your soldiers look like they're compensating. Make this thing a lot smaller, then I'll give it a thumbs-up.


That's when I first saw it. Thought it was an assault rifle because the magazine does not look like it can fit anything bigger than an intermediate cartridge. Now that I actually looked and saw it fires 6.9x48, that's fine, but the magazine really is too damn small.

Also, I notice that your magazines on both rifles are both of drastically different size, yet the rounds are of the same length. :?



Well, I'm not too good on naming rounds, so, should I change the ARC-99 to 9.48x119mm?
Also, the stock on the ARC-99 is completely adjustable for length and cheek rest alignment. And the reason the ejection port is too small is because the ARC-99 utilizes advanced prototype Liquid Propulsion System Ammunition (LPSA), which, in a 48mm cartridge has equivalent power to a larger sized cartridge.

also, /facepalm, it appears that I forgot to size up the SAR's magazine XP

*IMPROVED*
http://i311.photobucket.com/albums/kk46 ... -SAR17.jpg

Perhaps I should re-classify the SAR 17 as a Battle Rifle, or simply my original denomination: Heavy Assault Rifle
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Postby Uawc » Fri Feb 19, 2010 2:47 pm

Nolstafvia wrote:
UAWC wrote:
Nolstafvia wrote:I've decided to post up two new designs for criticism.

The Barret ARC-99
http://i311.photobucket.com/albums/kk46 ... Arc-99.jpg

Chambered for 9.48x48mm
Semi/Burst


Ejection port is too small. I hope the stock is adjustable/collapsing. If not, it's too short. Otherwise, I think you did a good job on this rifle. I especially like that you included burst fire.

Nolstafvia wrote:The NDF-SAR 17
http://i311.photobucket.com/albums/kk46 ... -HAR17.jpg

Chambered for 6.9x48mm SPD
Semi/Burst/Full


When I saw this, I was like, "wat"

This is too damn big for an assault rifle. Too damn big and bulky. There is no justifying an assault rifle of that size You're going to make all your soldiers look like they're compensating. Make this thing a lot smaller, then I'll give it a thumbs-up.


That's when I first saw it. Thought it was an assault rifle because the magazine does not look like it can fit anything bigger than an intermediate cartridge. Now that I actually looked and saw it fires 6.9x48, that's fine, but the magazine really is too damn small.

Also, I notice that your magazines on both rifles are both of drastically different size, yet the rounds are of the same length. :?



Well, I'm not too good on naming rounds, so, should I change the ARC-99 to 9.48x119mm?
Also, the stock on the ARC-99 is completely adjustable for length and cheek rest alignment. And the reason the ejection port is too small is because the ARC-99 utilizes advanced prototype Liquid Propulsion System Ammunition (LPSA), which, in a 48mm cartridge has equivalent power to a larger sized cartridge.

also, /facepalm, it appears that I forgot to size up the SAR's magazine XP

*IMPROVED*
http://i311.photobucket.com/albums/kk46 ... -SAR17.jpg

Perhaps I should re-classify the SAR 17 as a Battle Rifle, or simply my original denomination: Heavy Assault Rifle


The new version is much better.

When naming a cartridge, keep in mind that the first number is the width, and the second is the length. For instance, let's look at the UAWC's main assault rifle cartridge, the 7.62x39mmC.

7.62x39mmC

Red is how wide the cartridge is. The wider the round, the more propellant you can put into the cartridge, and the wider you can make the bullet. A wide bullet usually means a large cavity made when entering the target, which is why .45 ACP, for instance (measurements being 11.43x23mm) is more damaging than 9mm Parabellum (9x19mm). A wider cartridge usually also means that you can put less ammo in the magazine, so watch it.

Blue is the length of the cartridge. A longer cartridge, when fired with enough kinetic energy is generally going to be more accurate, though shape is also a factor. You need to add length when you add width to keep the round accurate and powerful.

Green is other lulzy crap you want to add on to the name of the round. In 7.62x39mmC, the "C" stands for "Communal", designating that the round is made in the UAWC. The "ACP" in .45 ACP also enters into this category, and if you're wondering, it stands for "Automatic Colt Pistol".
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Postby Crookfur » Fri Feb 19, 2010 3:43 pm

UAWC wrote:
The new version is much better.

When naming a cartridge, keep in mind that the first number is the width, and the second is the length. For instance, let's look at the UAWC's main assault rifle cartridge, the 7.62x39mmC.

7.62x39mmC

Red is how wide the cartridge is. The wider the round, the more propellant you can put into the cartridge, and the wider you can make the bullet. A wide bullet usually means a large cavity made when entering the target, which is why .45 ACP, for instance (measurements being 11.43x23mm) is more damaging than 9mm Parabellum (9x19mm). A wider cartridge usually also means that you can put less ammo in the magazine, so watch it.

Blue is the length of the cartridge. A longer cartridge, when fired with enough kinetic energy is generally going to be more accurate, though shape is also a factor. You need to add length when you add width to keep the round accurate and powerful.

Green is other lulzy crap you want to add on to the name of the round. In 7.62x39mmC, the "C" stands for "Communal", designating that the round is made in the UAWC. The "ACP" in .45 ACP also enters into this category, and if you're wondering, it stands for "Automatic Colt Pistol".


Well you are getting closer but still more than little off base.

The first number (7.62 in this case) refers to the nominal calibre or diameter of the bullet. I say nominal as due to the variance in measuring techniques (i.e. wether you measure the bore or the bullet (which is generally slightly wider than the bore) the actual size can vary: commonly 7.62mm bullets are either 7.82 or 7.9mm in diameter. Whislt the bullet diameter does have an impact on the amount of power you can extract from your propellant load it doesn't really control how much propellant you can fit in the case, that is determined by the case diameter and length.

The second number refers to the case length which generally speaking is the readiest way of telling the rough class that a round belongs to as it is the easiest indicator of the case capacity and thus potential muzzle energy. It has nothing whatso ever to do with the ballistic shape of the bullet.

The extra crap generally should be sperated by a space unless you are using the R sufix which indicates that a round is rimmed.
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Postby Nolstafvia » Fri Feb 19, 2010 8:59 pm

Ah, I see, so, what would rate my bullets? I know i don't really have case shape etc, but based of the stats I have.

6.9x48mm SPD
9.48x48mmL
9.48x119mm
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Postby Crookfur » Sat Feb 20, 2010 4:17 am

Well without any more information of the shape of the case etc and assuming that these use conventional cartridge designs i would put rough guesses at:

6.9x48mm SPD: sitting at the upper end of the "intermediate rifle" class possibley at the lower end of the full power rifle class, probabaly performing about the same as some of the rounds from the post war .280 series, possibly closest to the 7x49mm Liviano adopted by Venezuela.

9.48x48mmL: Sound like a necked out variant of the above round probabaly designed as a specialist short to medium range round possibly desinged to be laoded with very heavy bullets to be fired at subsonic velocities from specialist discrete weapons. Likely similar in useage to the likes of 9x39mm and .338 whisper

9.48x119mm: Specialist long range anti personnel round, case length does seem to indicate an attempt at some anti material capability but likely stretching things too much for the calibre. I would probably recomend shortening the case to blow 100mm as otherwise you are likely into the "overbore" region where your round simply does have "piston area" to make full use of the propellant load leading to massive barrel wear, enourmous muzzle flash and other mechanical issues. I would expect this to be in the same sort of region as rounds such as 9x90mm MEN, .416 barrett and .408 Chey-tac
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Postby Dimoniquid » Sat Feb 20, 2010 7:29 am

UAWC wrote:
Jalanat wrote:
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The EAR-1, standard infantry weapon

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The ESMG-1, standard sidearm


Why do you need guns at all when you have Pokemon?

Valid point.

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Postby Solyhniya » Sat Feb 20, 2010 7:41 am

Solyhniya wrote:Spaškov SP-10
Спашков СП-10

Image
Image

Constructed mainly from modern polymers, the SP-10 is a lightweight, high capacity solution as a standard military sidearm. It has a higher muzzle velocity than standard 9mm pistols whilst weighing less than a .45, providing a good middle ground. It is widely used by the army and by anti-terror units. Vlk special forces use the SP-10A variant which includes a fire selector for full auto setting.

Caliber:10mm
Weight: 780g (loaded)
Magazine capacity:
-Standard: 14 + 1
-Extended (SP-10A): 30 + 1
Fire rate (SP-10A): 800rpm

Spaškov SP-45
Спашков СП-45

Image
SP-45
Image
SP-45 Компакт
Image
SP-50

Caliber:
(1) .45 ACP
(2) .50 Action Express
Magazine Capacity:
(1) 12 + 1
(2) 8 +1
Weight:
(1) 988g
(2) 1280g

The SP-45 series is a heavy caliber pistol designed for law enforcement, home defense, international sales and for the selection of some special military units. Its weight means it is impractical for the army, however it is the sidearm of choice in the Solyhniyan navy.

This pistol chambered in the more widely available rounds, the .50 Action Express and the .45 ACP, making it more viable for sales abroad (compared with many Solyhniyan firearms chambered in domestically more common rounds like the 6.78 and the 10mm). The SP-45K (Кompact) is more popular with police and the armed forces and appears in .45 ACP, whereas the full-sized variant can be chambered in both rounds, with the .50 variant (the SP-50)being the more popular option for home and self-defense.


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Postby Nolstafvia » Sat Feb 20, 2010 9:53 am

Crookfur wrote:Well without any more information of the shape of the case etc and assuming that these use conventional cartridge designs i would put rough guesses at:

6.9x48mm SPD: sitting at the upper end of the "intermediate rifle" class possibley at the lower end of the full power rifle class, probabaly performing about the same as some of the rounds from the post war .280 series, possibly closest to the 7x49mm Liviano adopted by Venezuela.

9.48x48mmL: Sound like a necked out variant of the above round probabaly designed as a specialist short to medium range round possibly desinged to be laoded with very heavy bullets to be fired at subsonic velocities from specialist discrete weapons. Likely similar in useage to the likes of 9x39mm and .338 whisper

9.48x119mm: Specialist long range anti personnel round, case length does seem to indicate an attempt at some anti material capability but likely stretching things too much for the calibre. I would probably recomend shortening the case to blow 100mm as otherwise you are likely into the "overbore" region where your round simply does have "piston area" to make full use of the propellant load leading to massive barrel wear, enourmous muzzle flash and other mechanical issues. I would expect this to be in the same sort of region as rounds such as 9x90mm MEN, .416 barrett and .408 Chey-tac



Ah, I see. One thing however, the description for my 9.48x48mmL is incorrect, as it actually utilizes a high powered liquid propellant, condensing the power of a longer cartridge into a smaller package. Though as the normal 9.48x48mmS, it fits quite well. Also, the 9.48x119mm was only a example, and not actually a standard round. The only round we employ of that length would be the 14.5x119mm Hammer.
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Postby Ewa beach » Sat Feb 20, 2010 10:01 am

What do you guys think about the Swedish AK5?
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Postby Satirius » Sat Feb 20, 2010 10:10 am

Ewa beach wrote:What do you guys think about the Swedish AK5?

Looks like a SIG 552 lumped with an FAL. Looks like a functional, aesthetically pleasing weapon. I like the angle of the handguard.
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Postby Uawc » Sat Feb 20, 2010 10:13 am

Ewa beach wrote:What do you guys think about the Swedish AK5?


Could use a slightly higher fire rate, since in my opinion if you're using 5.56 you're going to need more shots on target to ensure that at least one of the bullets fragments. Beyond that I think it's pretty alright, though if I'm going to use 5.56 I don't think there's any gun I'd rather use than the Steyr AUG.
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