What is the main military weapon of your country?

[Boreal Tundra]

Boreal Tundra uses the R5 rifle series. The cartridge has similar ballistics to 6.5mm Grendel with a longer, slimmer case allowing for easier use with belted feed systems.



We also have a MG system similar to the Heckler & Koch MG4 using the same round.



Note, these are original production versions and have been upgraded (more rails etc)

(Also: Reduced resolution to fit forum limits.)

[Uawc]

The main military weapon used by the great Asneiran militiaman/farmer is the venerable Mosin-Nagant bolt action rifle. The military also uses the AK-47 assault rifle and RPG-7, being a poor, backwater, third-world nation we cannot afford fancy toys like these other countries. Asneiran children are taught from a young age to hate black, white, Asian and Latin people, unless they are of course those of the glorious Juche, despite being a predominantly Asian and Arayan culture themselves care for, fire, maintain and repair a weapon, so as to push back the evil foreign imperialists in the event of an invasion.


Young Asneiran child choosing his first weapon from his father's 'gun cache'. Shown on top of the cache are mortar shells, useful for creating expedient IEDs and anti-tank hand grenades.

^^Sounds like you are a mercenary nation. How much do you charge?

Actually it's a piss-poor backwater. This was sort of extrapolated from how I imagine UAWC's nation, without the communes and a slightly more centralised government. You can think of it as an anarchic North Korea, for lack of a better explanation.

Emoticons a good response do not make.

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

[Alahastra]

Ha, haven't heard that one in a while.

[Senestrum]

Boreal Tundra uses the R5 rifle series. The cartridge has similar ballistics to 6.5mm Grendel with a longer, slimmer case allowing for easier use with belted feed systems.

We also have a MG system similar to the Heckler & Koch MG4 using the same round.

Note, these are original production versions and have been upgraded (more rails etc)

(Also: Reduced resolution to fit forum limits.)

somebody who drew their own stuff

yay

[Solyhniya]

Boreal Tundra uses the R5 rifle series. The cartridge has similar ballistics to 6.5mm Grendel with a longer, slimmer case allowing for easier use with belted feed systems.

We also have a MG system similar to the Heckler & Koch MG4 using the same round.

Note, these are original production versions and have been upgraded (more rails etc)

(Also: Reduced resolution to fit forum limits.)

somebody who drew their own stuff

yay

Someone who ingeniously drew their own stuff, I might add. Damn good job, I don't think there's anything that can be faulted!

[Rimal Jazeera Islands]

Some ideas - I like the standard rifle configuration. Is there any part of the mechanism in the stock, or is that extra space used for a cleaning kit, spare parts, etc? Also, when patrolling in hostile territory where ambush is possible, you may want each soldier's rifle to have a high-capacity mag like on the LMG in order to give them the most firepower possible to escape such a situation. Such equipment may be on a special-purpose issue, or maybe you'll want to issue one with each rifle.

Sorry I've left this reply for so long, Ive been just a tad busy. The stock is too small to conceal anything, its just a folding stock after all, on the full stock version there's a concealed compartment for cleaning kit storage. In terms of ambushes, it is my belief that training overcomes such issues, rather than answering the question with exponential volume of fire. The size and weight of those LMG magazines cause more trouble than their worth when used by a rifleman, if every man had to lug those things round the battlefield, they wouldn't be too pleased, believe me. A nice 20/30 round magazine makes the rifle much neater and much easier to handle, whilst LMGs have to be laid down, or propped up in order to be comfortable and stable enough to use. So turning something than needs high manoeuvrability into something that slows that agility down is inadvisable. The smallest unit of combat infantry (Fireteam consisting of 4 men) always has one automatic rifleman armed with an LMG, so he ultimately is the one who keeps the enemy's heads down with a higher "volume of fire" rather than exercising true "fire-power".

[Byelorussian SSR]

So, I thought I'd try my hand at a bulpup rifle. Comments? Critizism?
Just keep in mind that I did this for fun, it'll never see production in any means. Also, I know next to nothing about bulpups, just what I've seen and read in this thread.

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  <part id="RMount009" x="1018" y="650" rotation="0" scale="1.08" flip="1,1" colors="666666"/>
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  <part id="GasTube08" x="1040.2" y="668.6" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1" colors="666666,e1e1e1"/>
  <part id="Barrel029" x="1158.15" y="688.3" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1" colors="666666,e1e1e1"/>
  <part id="Bolt012" x="922" y="679" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1" colors="444444"/>
  <part id="FStock01" x="802" y="742" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1" colors="666666,666666,999999,666666"/>
  <part id="FStock08" x="782" y="706" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1" colors="666666,666666,666666"/>
  <part id="RMag019" x="917" y="760" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1" colors="666666"/>
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</weapon>

Any tips for making the stock no so bulky? I tried to make sure that it met up with the magwell and top of the receiver.

[Albrante]

So, I thought I'd try my hand at a bulpup rifle. Comments? Critizism?
Just keep in mind that I did this for fun, it'll never see production in any means. Also, I know next to nothing about bulpups, just what I've seen and read in this thread.

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<weapon>
  <part id="CheekRest03" x="794" y="682" rotation="0" scale="1.1" flip="1,1" colors="666666,666666"/>
  <part id="RMount009" x="1018" y="650" rotation="0" scale="1.08" flip="1,1" colors="666666"/>
  <part id="Foregrip001" x="1191" y="749" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1" colors="666666"/>
  <part id="Shape04" x="696" y="692" rotation="85" scale="0.25" flip="1,1" colors="444444"/>
  <part id="Shape04" x="746" y="692" rotation="0" scale="0.75" flip="1,1" colors="666666"/>
  <part id="Shape01" x="814" y="708" rotation="19.444410773015164" scale="1" flip="1,1" colors="666666"/>
  <part id="Shape01" x="717" y="696" rotation="-7.497690642516318" scale="1" flip="1,1" colors="666666"/>
  <part id="Shape04" x="756" y="704" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1" colors="666666"/>
  <group x="1187" y="682" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1">
    <part id="Handguard022Down" x="2" y="12.3" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1" colors="666666"/>
    <part id="Handguard022Up" x="5.5" y="-11.1" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1" colors="666666"/>
  </group>
  <part id="DustCover02" x="908" y="683" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1" colors="666666,cccccc,999999"/>
  <part id="LReceiver016" x="1040" y="734" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1" colors="666666,666666,666666"/>
  <part id="LReceiver018B" x="906" y="717" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1" colors="666666,666666"/>
  <group x="890.75" y="649" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1">
    <part id="ISight007B" x="-5.7" y="0.1" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1" colors="666666,666666"/>
    <part id="ISight007A" x="9.65" y="0" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1" colors="666666,666666"/>
  </group>
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  <group x="1098.9" y="648.25" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1">
    <part id="ISight008B" x="-6.65" y="-1.95" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1" colors="666666"/>
    <part id="ISight008A" x="9.45" y="0.55" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1" colors="666666,666666"/>
  </group>
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  <part id="Barrel029" x="1158.15" y="688.3" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1" colors="666666,e1e1e1"/>
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  <part id="FStock01" x="802" y="742" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1" colors="666666,666666,999999,666666"/>
  <part id="FStock08" x="782" y="706" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1" colors="666666,666666,666666"/>
  <part id="RMag019" x="917" y="760" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1" colors="666666"/>
  <part id="Scope004" x="1001" y="620" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1" colors="666666,ff5656"/>
</weapon>

Any tips for making the stock no so bulky? I tried to make sure that it met up with the magwell and top of the receiver.

Its a bullpup, by default better that a long rifle. Don't be swayed by the general anti-bullpup feelings on NS. They are great guns, compact, accurate and hard hitting. They may be uncomfortable in the hands of someone who has used nothing but long rifles but in the hands of a soldier who has trained and drilled with a bullpup the flaws melt away, the many benefits however do not.

[Albrante]

By the way Fatatatutti you broke the thread

[Fatatatutti]

By the way Fatatatutti you broke the thread

I know. I've seen that before a couple of times. I don't know what causes it.

[Senestrum]

I've seen it on other forums when threads get stupidly long. The forum software isn't really programmed to take this sort of abuse.

[Lord Tothe]

Some ideas - I like the standard rifle configuration. Is there any part of the mechanism in the stock, or is that extra space used for a cleaning kit, spare parts, etc? Also, when patrolling in hostile territory where ambush is possible, you may want each soldier's rifle to have a high-capacity mag like on the LMG in order to give them the most firepower possible to escape such a situation. Such equipment may be on a special-purpose issue, or maybe you'll want to issue one with each rifle.

Sorry I've left this reply for so long, Ive been just a tad busy. The stock is too small to conceal anything, its just a folding stock after all, on the full stock version there's a concealed compartment for cleaning kit storage. In terms of ambushes, it is my belief that training overcomes such issues, rather than answering the question with exponential volume of fire. The size and weight of those LMG magazines cause more trouble than their worth when used by a rifleman, if every man had to lug those things round the battlefield, they wouldn't be too pleased, believe me. A nice 20/30 round magazine makes the rifle much neater and much easier to handle, whilst LMGs have to be laid down, or propped up in order to be comfortable and stable enough to use. So turning something than needs high manoeuvrability into something that slows that agility down is inadvisable. The smallest unit of combat infantry (Fireteam consisting of 4 men) always has one automatic rifleman armed with an LMG, so he ultimately is the one who keeps the enemy's heads down with a higher "volume of fire" rather than exercising true "fire-power".

If your rifle stock is just a hollow hunk of plastic, throw a collapsing cleaning rod and some jags in there. Think something like the SKS. I know what you mean about the weight of a large mag, though.

[Dimoniquid]

By the way Fatatatutti you broke the thread

I know. I've seen that before a couple of times. I don't know what causes it.

Stop breaking crap!
-Slaps around head-

[Golddragons]

deepends on the service branch the infanty use the morita air force if shot down use o.i.c.w navy and marines famas

[Min Nan]

AK-47 is still our Minnan Defence Army first choice!~

[Satirius]

deepends on the service branch the infanty use the morita air force if shot down use o.i.c.w navy and marines famas

Wait why would aircrews use a 29-pound weapon?

[Imitora]

deepends on the service branch the infanty use the morita air force if shot down use o.i.c.w navy and marines famas

Wait why would aircrews use a 29-pound weapon?

Same reason why the infantry uses a fifty pound rifle with no sights, he saw it in a movie or video game and it looked cool.

[Lakhon]

Our common Army and Marine soldiers use these two:

Snipers from each branch use the LSR1
The LMG1 is used in MG nests which are placed on top of walls or towers.

[Verlorenen]

In following its tradition of making things simpler at lower costs, the Verloreni Arms Manufacturing sector has announced a solution to the close-quarters problems encountered by rifle-wielding troops. Chambered for the same round (10mm), the Albert-Johnston MP-75 and the Verloreni Service Issue Officer's Pistol were produced in tandem for simplicity and cost-effectiveness for the Verloreni Defense Forces.

The Albert-Johnston MP-75, named for its co-creators Niels Albert and Berrigill Johnston, utilizes a basic contruction that allows for mass production in assembly lines on the homefront. Comprised of only about two dozen pressed-steel components, little luxury is lavished on this "spray and pray" weapon and its main advantage is that it is widely available for troop use. The only real drawback to the MP-75 is its primitive "blowback" operation, which results in a comparatively low rate of fire, but so far has not been a serious issue in the field. A collapsable stock gives users slightly increased accuracy at longer distances, however the effective range is limited to close-quarters engagements.

Caliber: 10mm
Length: 680mm (26.77in)
Weight: 2.55kg (5.62lbs)
Barrel: 225mm (8.85in), 6 grooves, right hand
Feed / Magazine Capacity: 30-Round Detachable Box
Operation: Blowback
Cyclic Rate of Fire: 550rpm
Muzzle Velocity: 350mps (1148fps)
Effective Range: 70m (230ft)

The Verloreni Service Issue Officer's Pistol was developed in an attempt to standardize all VDF sidearms, which varied widely. As a result, the constant supply of various and outdated rounds became too expensive and complicated for the Quartermaster's Office to handle. Enter the Service Issue Officer's Pistol. Also chambered for the 10mm round, this sidearm is a simple short-recoil handgun built for durability and accuracy in combat conditions. Magazines are inserted into pistol grip and spent cartridges are ejected from the cocking piece/short slide assembly. Initial field testing reports are satisfactory.

Caliber: 10mm
Length: 254mm (10in)
Weight: 1.25kg (2.75lbs)
Barrel: 190mm (7.5in), 6 grooves, right hand
Feed / Magazine Capacity: 15-Round Detachable Box Magazine
Operation: Short Recoil
Muzzle Velocity: 350mps (1148fps)
Effective Range: 40m (131ft)

Thoughts? Comments, Concerns?

[Satirius]

deepends on the service branch the infanty use the morita air force if shot down use o.i.c.w navy and marines famas

Wait why would aircrews use a 29-pound weapon?

Same reason why the infantry uses a fifty pound rifle with no sights, he saw it in a movie or video game and it looked cool.

MORITA is from Starship Troopers BTW, it's just a bullpup extended Mini-14 mated to a Remington 870, covered up in a nice casing. Shit actually fires and is not 50 pounds. Moar liek 15, but it's still a bitch to lug around, being 5 feet long and all.

[Satirius]

In following its tradition of making things simpler at lower costs, the Verloreni Arms Manufacturing sector has announced a solution to the close-quarters problems encountered by rifle-wielding troops. Chambered for the same round (10mm), the Albert-Johnston MP-75 and the Verloreni Service Issue Officer's Pistol were produced in tandem for simplicity and cost-effectiveness for the Verloreni Defense Forces.

The Albert-Johnston MP-75, named for its co-creators Niels Albert and Berrigill Johnston, utilizes a basic contruction that allows for mass production in assembly lines on the homefront. Comprised of only about two dozen pressed-steel components, little luxury is lavished on this "spray and pray" weapon and its main advantage is that it is widely available for troop use. The only real drawback to the MP-75 is its primitive "blowback" operation, which results in a comparatively low rate of fire, but so far has not been a serious issue in the field. A collapsable stock gives users slightly increased accuracy at longer distances, however the effective range is limited to close-quarters engagements.

Caliber: 10mm
Length: 680mm (26.77in)
Weight: 2.55kg (5.62lbs)
Barrel: 225mm (8.85in), 6 grooves, right hand
Feed / Magazine Capacity: 30-Round Detachable Box
Operation: Blowback
Cyclic Rate of Fire: 550rpm
Muzzle Velocity: 350mps (1148fps)
Effective Range: 70m (230ft)

The Verloreni Service Issue Officer's Pistol was developed in an attempt to standardize all VDF sidearms, which varied widely. As a result, the constant supply of various and outdated rounds became too expensive and complicated for the Quartermaster's Office to handle. Enter the Service Issue Officer's Pistol. Also chambered for the 10mm round, this sidearm is a simple short-recoil handgun built for durability and accuracy in combat conditions. Magazines are inserted into pistol grip and spent cartridges are ejected from the cocking piece/short slide assembly. Initial field testing reports are satisfactory.

Caliber: 10mm
Length: 254mm (10in)
Weight: 1.25kg (2.75lbs)
Barrel: 190mm (7.5in), 6 grooves, right hand
Feed / Magazine Capacity: 15-Round Detachable Box Magazine
Operation: Short Recoil
Muzzle Velocity: 350mps (1148fps)
Effective Range: 40m (131ft)

Thoughts? Comments, Concerns?

Officer's Pistol looks like a Luger, and I congratulate you on making a pistol out of a PMG with no such parts.

[Sharada]

[Imitora]

MORITA is from Starship Troopers BTW, it's just a bullpup extended Mini-14 mated to a Remington 870, covered up in a nice casing. Shit actually fires and is not 50 pounds. Moar liek 15, but it's still a bitch to lug around, being 5 feet long and all.

I know what the Morita is. Its from that fail of a movie that has absolutely nothing to do with its name sake, because Verhooven got bored after two pages. Its ugly as hell, its bulky, it has a shit sight radius for a rifle its size, probably doesn't have sights designed in, and is pretty much the prime example of why people who have no clue about guns shouldn't be allowed to design them.

[Sharada]

new tanks from the black market

numbers clasefied

[The Archiepelago]

AK-47 is still our Minnan Defence Army first choice!~