What is the main military weapon of your country?

[Uawc]

SABR-23v2 "Sabre"
The Main Battle Rifle of the Imperial Guard:
-3-shot burst can be set to fully automatic
-Intended for all-terrain and all purpose combat,
-Utilizes an electro-magnetic firing chamber increasing accuracy and power of the shot as well as minimizing recoil
-36 Round Magazine
-Attachable Scope and Grenade Launcher
-Bull-pup design
-Plasma-filled Incendiary Rounds
-Very-low Maintenance due to the Few Moving Parts
Also Displayed:
Imperial Short Sword, can be attached as a bayonet but it's size makes it preferable as a sword

That looks ridiculously heavy and unwieldy. Additionally, won't "plasma-filled incendiary rounds" create a massive heat problem for soldiers using the rifle? Unless it's open-bolt, I can see this thing either setting itself on fire or simply exploding.

Also, I'm sorry to say. but the iron sight looks kind of fail, considering its location and the fact that there's only one.

[United Nukia]

AK-47s of course.

The AK-47 isn't exactly the most reliable weapon out there. For the price-to-quality ratio it works out fine, but there are plenty of better weapon that you could use.

Note the flag is based on the Russian flag.

[Verlorenen]

I'm not going to use PimpMyGun, I'm not going to use PimpMyGun, I'm not going to use PimpMyGun...



Dammit!
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A robust, simple and reliable weapon, the Verloreni Mk10 Service Rifle is a bolt-action weapon chambered in 5.56x45mm NATO. Utilizing a smooth and fast "Mauser"-style bolt operation with three locking lugs and a heavy barrel, it can deliver withering volumes of accurate fire even from untrained hands. The iron sights are notched with a sliding selector to fire at 100, 200, 300, 400 and 500m intervals.

A folding foregrip allows for ergonomic and effective firing per the user's preference. The trigger guard is purposely wide to accomodate gloved fingers and the rubberized semi-pistol grip allows for firm control of the weapon even in stressful situations.

Twenty-round detachable box magazines are currently the most popular for balance of size and rounds, however more unwieldy thirty-round magazines are available for extended periods of combat without reloading. Single rounds can be loaded in emergencies where magazines are damaged or unavailiable. The weapon has proven itself reliable in torture tests and will still continue to fire with serious damage to the reciever in most cases, as well as while submerged under water. A carbine version, with a folding "skeleton" stock and shorter 10 inch barrel, is available. A detachable bayonet is issued to all troops for close-quarters fighting and can be affixed to the barrel using the lugs provided. A detachable flash hider is also available and can be used for night operations.

Calibre: 5.56x45mm NATO
Length: 946mm (37.24 in)
Weight: 2.9 kg (6.70 lbs)
Barrel: 508mm (20in) 6 grooves, right hand.
Feed / Magazine Capacity: 20 round detachable box magazine.
Operation: Manually-Operated Bolt Action
Muzzle Velocity: 1000 metres/second (3280 feet/second)
Effective Range: 500m (1640ft) plus

Questions, Comments, Concerns, Opinions?

[Piliotechnostracy]

WAAAAAAHHHHH!!!! TUNNY TON TICKLE TIP, FORTY EIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[Verlorenen]

5.56x45mm NATO seems like a mighty small round to use for a bolt action rifle, the Japanese, Italians, and the like had trouble with lethality with 6.5mm rounds in their bolt actions rifles. I would suggest something between 7-8mm and around 50-65mm long, especially if you are dead set on using bolt action rifles where you will need to kill in one shot.

Indeed - this was my major qualm when I was designing the weapon - I wanted a round with enough versatility to be used in urban environments, but didn't want the obnoxious recoil of something like the 7.62x51 NATO. I noticed that the majority of nation's militaries (in the real world that is), have switched to 5.56 for whatever reason. Of course, this probably has more to do with controlling automatic fire rather than environment, but my issue still stands:

Any suggestions for a "better" round that will perform at short ranges in terms of lethality while still remaining controllable?

[Aznakayevo]

WAAAAAAHHHHH!!!! TUNNY TON TICKLE TIP, FORTY EIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Should I report this, or...?

[Piliotechnostracy]

WAAAAAAHHHHH!!!! TUNNY TON TICKLE TIP, FORTY EIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Should I report this, or...?

CAAAN YOU STOP THE SATURATION!!! We use matevers in our country. That's it, just Matevers.

[Uawc]

I'm not going to use PimpMyGun, I'm not going to use PimpMyGun, I'm not going to use PimpMyGun...



Dammit!
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A robust, simple and reliable weapon, the Verloreni Mk10 Service Rifle is a bolt-action weapon chambered in 5.56x45mm NATO. Utilizing a smooth and fast "Mauser"-style bolt operation with three locking lugs and a heavy barrel, it can deliver withering volumes of accurate fire even from untrained hands. The iron sights are notched with a sliding selector to fire at 100, 200, 300, 400 and 500m intervals.

A folding foregrip allows for ergonomic and effective firing per the user's preference. The trigger guard is purposely wide to accomodate gloved fingers and the rubberized semi-pistol grip allows for firm control of the weapon even in stressful situations.

Twenty-round detachable box magazines are currently the most popular for balance of size and rounds, however more unwieldy thirty-round magazines are available for extended periods of combat without reloading. Single rounds can be loaded in emergencies where magazines are damaged or unavailiable. The weapon has proven itself reliable in torture tests and will still continue to fire with serious damage to the reciever in most cases, as well as while submerged under water. A carbine version, with a folding "skeleton" stock and shorter 10 inch barrel, is available. A detachable bayonet is issued to all troops for close-quarters fighting and can be affixed to the barrel using the lugs provided. A detachable flash hider is also available and can be used for night operations.

Calibre: 5.56x45mm NATO
Length: 946mm (37.24 in)
Weight: 2.9 kg (6.70 lbs)
Barrel: 508mm (20in) 6 grooves, right hand.
Feed / Magazine Capacity: 20 round detachable box magazine.
Operation: Manually-Operated Bolt Action
Muzzle Velocity: 1000 metres/second (3280 feet/second)
Effective Range: 500m (1640ft) plus

Questions, Comments, Concerns, Opinions?

5.56x45mm NATO, in bolt action? Why not use a battle rifle cartridge instead of an intermediate one? Also, the 5.56 is puny enough as it is. You need that high volume of fire the M16 offers when you want to use 5.56, because if it doesn't fragment (and no, it doesn't every time, especially in long range) you're not going to do anything to the guy, especially if he's wearing armor. If you equip your soldiers with this, I guarantee your soldiers will not be very happy. 5.56 is a good assault rifle round, when used in assault rifles that are actually used for close-range assaults. That's all it's good for, by the way, because that's when it's going to fragment. While I think it's good that you put a long barrel on this rifle, without automatic fire, I can't possibly see this as being effective.

Also, the stock is too short.

[The Anglo-Saxon Empire]

5.56x45mm NATO seems like a mighty small round to use for a bolt action rifle, the Japanese, Italians, and the like had trouble with lethality with 6.5mm rounds in their bolt actions rifles. I would suggest something between 7-8mm and around 50-65mm long, especially if you are dead set on using bolt action rifles where you will need to kill in one shot.

Indeed - this was my major qualm when I was designing the weapon - I wanted a round with enough versatility to be used in urban environments, but didn't want the obnoxious recoil of something like the 7.62x51 NATO. I noticed that the majority of nation's militaries (in the real world that is), have switched to 5.56 for whatever reason. Of course, this probably has more to do with controlling automatic fire rather than environment, but my issue still stands:

Any suggestions for a "better" round that will perform at short ranges in terms of lethality while still remaining controllable?

30-06, is a good choice, .303 British, and if you are a wimp .280 British are all good rounds.

[Uawc]

The UAWC has two new weapons to add to its arsenal.

Firstly, the UAWC has developed a locally producible version of the foreign Type-0 ORCA submachine gun. We call it the Type-2 STAR. It fires .454 Magnum from a side-mounted magazine of 28 rounds. Like many UAWC weapons it features a two-stage trigger which allows it to fire either fully or semi-automatic. It goes at 550 RPM on full auto. This is the only Union weapon to not feature any rails at all, though of course they can be added. The sight system is a built-in 1.5x scope. The Type-2 STAR will not be standard issue.

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Now, for a much more important update for our military, the UAWC has a new version of its FPMS-Z bullpup assault rifle. While an excellent weapon, we felt it could simply use an update. The new rifle is the FPMS-3. It's got much more rail space, and is an overall lighter weapon, especially in the barrel department. Like its predecessor it fires 7.62x39mmC (the Union's improved version of 7.62x39) from a box magazine of 30 rounds. Like most UAWC firearms it features a two-stage trigger. 600 RPM in full auto. It's also a lot like the Steyr AUG in the respect that you can do pretty much anything with it. Add a heavier barrel with a bipod, and suddenly you have an LMG, for instance. With better sights, greater customization options, and a lighter design, this rifle will be a staple of the Union's forces.

Opinions anyone, particularly on the FPMS-3?

[Verlorenen]

5.56x45mm NATO, in bolt action? Why not use a battle rifle cartridge instead of an intermediate one? Also, the 5.56 is puny enough as it is. You need that high volume of fire the M16 offers when you want to use 5.56, because if it doesn't fragment (and no, it doesn't every time, especially in long range) you're not going to do anything to the guy, especially if he's wearing armor. If you equip your soldiers with this, I guarantee your soldiers will not be very happy. 5.56 is a good assault rifle round, when used in assault rifles that are actually used for close-range assaults. That's all it's good for, by the way, because that's when it's going to fragment. While I think it's good that you put a long barrel on this rifle, without automatic fire, I can't possibly see this as being effective.

Also, the stock is too short.

The issue has been addressed, thank you.

30-06, is a good choice, .303 British, and if you are a wimp .280 British are all good rounds.

I like the sound of .303 British - if it served them well enough through two world wars then it's good enough for me. I'll look into that.

[Uawc]

The UAWC has two new weapons to add to its arsenal.

Firstly, the UAWC has developed a locally producible version of the foreign Type-0 ORCA submachine gun. We call it the Type-2 STAR. It fires .454 Magnum from a side-mounted magazine of 28 rounds. Like many UAWC weapons it features a two-stage trigger which allows it to fire either fully or semi-automatic. It goes at 550 RPM on full auto. This is the only Union weapon to not feature any rails at all, though of course they can be added. The sight system is a built-in 1.5x scope. The Type-2 STAR will not be standard issue.

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Now, for a much more important update for our military, the UAWC has a new version of its FPMS-Z bullpup assault rifle. While an excellent weapon, we felt it could simply use an update. The new rifle is the FPMS-3. It's got much more rail space, and is an overall lighter weapon, especially in the barrel department. Like its predecessor it fires 7.62x39mmC (the Union's improved version of 7.62x39) from a box magazine of 30 rounds. Like most UAWC firearms it features a two-stage trigger. 600 RPM in full auto. It's also a lot like the Steyr AUG in the respect that you can do pretty much anything with it. Add a heavier barrel with a bipod, and suddenly you have an LMG, for instance. With better sights, greater customization options, and a lighter design, this rifle will be a staple of the Union's forces.

Opinions anyone, particularly on the FPMS-3?

What is the second trigger for?

Not a trigger, it's for quick extraction of the mag.

[Techno-Soviet]

5.56x45mm NATO seems like a mighty small round to use for a bolt action rifle, the Japanese, Italians, and the like had trouble with lethality with 6.5mm rounds in their bolt actions rifles. I would suggest something between 7-8mm and around 50-65mm long, especially if you are dead set on using bolt action rifles where you will need to kill in one shot.

Indeed - this was my major qualm when I was designing the weapon - I wanted a round with enough versatility to be used in urban environments, but didn't want the obnoxious recoil of something like the 7.62x51 NATO. I noticed that the majority of nation's militaries (in the real world that is), have switched to 5.56 for whatever reason. Of course, this probably has more to do with controlling automatic fire rather than environment, but my issue still stands:

Any suggestions for a "better" round that will perform at short ranges in terms of lethality while still remaining controllable?

6.8 Remington.

[Verlorenen]

For urban enviroments large calibre rounds are actually very useful, as they can penetrate walls, concrete, and half a meter of sandbags. Bolt action rifles are at a disadvantage in close combat anyways, although a larger magazine helps a bit. I would also recommend the Lee-Enfield style bolt as it allows for a much higher rate of fire versus the mauser bolt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HV5pSUlBz18

It looks like I might just adopt the SMLE at this point for simplicity's sake.

[The Adrian Empire]

SABR-23v2 "Sabre"
The Main Battle Rifle of the Imperial Guard:
-3-shot burst can be set to fully automatic
-Intended for all-terrain and all purpose combat,
-Utilizes an electro-magnetic firing chamber increasing accuracy and power of the shot as well as minimizing recoil
-36 Round Magazine
-Attachable Scope and Grenade Launcher
-Bull-pup design
-Plasma-filled Incendiary Rounds
-Very-low Maintenance due to the Few Moving Parts
Also Displayed:
Imperial Short Sword, can be attached as a bayonet but it's size makes it preferable as a sword

That looks ridiculously heavy and unwieldy. Additionally, won't "plasma-filled incendiary rounds" create a massive heat problem for soldiers using the rifle? Unless it's open-bolt, I can see this thing either setting itself on fire or simply exploding.

Also, I'm sorry to say. but the iron sight looks kind of fail, considering its location and the fact that there's only one.

Erhm, first try, I made some mistakes I can see.
I can imagine it is heavy, the butt is hollow if that helps and I thought the same thing about the iron sights, I just liked the look of it, I don't really see how it is ridiculously heavy though, as it doesn't appear to have any more features then some other rifles.
As for the bullets they aren't made from plasma, they are filled with incendiary plasma which is inside the round, it explodes on impact, also the bullets are fired by electro-magnetic means rather then chemical, which I understand is unfeasible as of today's technology at least in rifle form. Since there is less gas to no gas release the large portion of heat generated from the round is negated by the lack of gas.
Of course this is not true of my MT nation, then I suppose they are just bullets, and the gun works no different then any other rifle.

[Uawc]

SABR-23v2 "Sabre"
The Main Battle Rifle of the Imperial Guard:
-3-shot burst can be set to fully automatic
-Intended for all-terrain and all purpose combat,
-Utilizes an electro-magnetic firing chamber increasing accuracy and power of the shot as well as minimizing recoil
-36 Round Magazine
-Attachable Scope and Grenade Launcher
-Bull-pup design
-Plasma-filled Incendiary Rounds
-Very-low Maintenance due to the Few Moving Parts
Also Displayed:
Imperial Short Sword, can be attached as a bayonet but it's size makes it preferable as a sword

That looks ridiculously heavy and unwieldy. Additionally, won't "plasma-filled incendiary rounds" create a massive heat problem for soldiers using the rifle? Unless it's open-bolt, I can see this thing either setting itself on fire or simply exploding.

Also, I'm sorry to say. but the iron sight looks kind of fail, considering its location and the fact that there's only one.

Erhm, first try, I made some mistakes I can see.
I can imagine it is heavy, the butt is hollow if that helps and I thought the same thing about the iron sights, I just liked the look of it, I don't really see how it is ridiculously heavy though, as it doesn't appear to have any more features then some other rifles.
As for the bullets they aren't made from plasma, they are filled with incendiary plasma which is inside the round, it explodes on impact, also the bullets are fired by electro-magnetic means rather then chemical, which I understand is unfeasible as of today's technology at least in rifle form. Since there is less gas to no gas release the large portion of heat generated from the round is negated by the lack of gas.
Of course this is not true of my MT nation, then I suppose they are just bullets, and the gun works no different then any other rifle.

Not a bad explanation. As for the weight and unwieldyness, I'd like to point you towards the receiver. Judging by the rails, it looks like there's a box-shaped protrusion on the side, which as you can imagine could add a lot of unnecessary weight.

Also, the stock on a bullpup should never be hollow, as the stock usually is the receiver.

[Uawc]

For urban enviroments large calibre rounds are actually very useful, as they can penetrate walls, concrete, and half a meter of sandbags. Bolt action rifles are at a disadvantage in close combat anyways, although a larger magazine helps a bit. I would also recommend the Lee-Enfield style bolt as it allows for a much higher rate of fire versus the mauser bolt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HV5pSUlBz18

It looks like I might just adopt the SMLE at this point for simplicity's sake.

You don't have to give your gun up completly, a modernised SMLE made out of modern materials instead of wood, shortened further, and firing a smaller round may be to your liking.

Why a smaller round? .303 British is awesome.

[BackSideBoys]

Mosin-Nagant rifles of all models. Current military intelligence concerning the number of actually working models was lost under a pile of corrosive surplus ammunition.

[Uawc]

Mosin-Nagant rifles of all models. Current military intelligence concerning the number of actually working models was lost under a pile of corrosive surplus ammunition.

Why not modernize it, like we did?

[The Adrian Empire]

SABR-23v2 "Sabre"
The Main Battle Rifle of the Imperial Guard:
-3-shot burst can be set to fully automatic
-Intended for all-terrain and all purpose combat,
-Utilizes an electro-magnetic firing chamber increasing accuracy and power of the shot as well as minimizing recoil
-36 Round Magazine
-Attachable Scope and Grenade Launcher
-Bull-pup design
-Plasma-filled Incendiary Rounds
-Very-low Maintenance due to the Few Moving Parts
Also Displayed:
Imperial Short Sword, can be attached as a bayonet but it's size makes it preferable as a sword

That looks ridiculously heavy and unwieldy. Additionally, won't "plasma-filled incendiary rounds" create a massive heat problem for soldiers using the rifle? Unless it's open-bolt, I can see this thing either setting itself on fire or simply exploding.

Also, I'm sorry to say. but the iron sight looks kind of fail, considering its location and the fact that there's only one.

Erhm, first try, I made some mistakes I can see.
I can imagine it is heavy, the butt is hollow if that helps and I thought the same thing about the iron sights, I just liked the look of it, I don't really see how it is ridiculously heavy though, as it doesn't appear to have any more features then some other rifles.
As for the bullets they aren't made from plasma, they are filled with incendiary plasma which is inside the round, it explodes on impact, also the bullets are fired by electro-magnetic means rather then chemical, which I understand is unfeasible as of today's technology at least in rifle form. Since there is less gas to no gas release the large portion of heat generated from the round is negated by the lack of gas.
Of course this is not true of my MT nation, then I suppose they are just bullets, and the gun works no different then any other rifle.

Not a bad explanation. As for the weight and unwieldyness, I'd like to point you towards the receiver. Judging by the rails, it looks like there's a box-shaped protrusion on the side, which as you can imagine could add a lot of unnecessary weight.

Also, the stock on a bullpup should never be hollow, as the stock usually is the receiver.

My gun ignorance is showing, so it isn't hollow at the back.
The thing that looks like a box was for aesthetic value only it isn't anything really, just a cover to conceal the meeting of the rail and the receiver which looked a little bit odd. So no there isn't anything protruding from the rail. If you mean the white line that is just a paint feature or perhaps the actual rail of the gun

[BackSideBoys]

Mosin-Nagant rifles of all models. Current military intelligence concerning the number of actually working models was lost under a pile of corrosive surplus ammunition.

Why not modernize it, like we did?

My nation is a jungle island with a low tech level. These rifles were traded to us by dark-haired peoples for fruit, spices, and women.

The strange materials In that shooting piece are unknown to us.

[Uawc]

SABR-23v2 "Sabre"
The Main Battle Rifle of the Imperial Guard:
-3-shot burst can be set to fully automatic
-Intended for all-terrain and all purpose combat,
-Utilizes an electro-magnetic firing chamber increasing accuracy and power of the shot as well as minimizing recoil
-36 Round Magazine
-Attachable Scope and Grenade Launcher
-Bull-pup design
-Plasma-filled Incendiary Rounds
-Very-low Maintenance due to the Few Moving Parts
Also Displayed:
Imperial Short Sword, can be attached as a bayonet but it's size makes it preferable as a sword

That looks ridiculously heavy and unwieldy. Additionally, won't "plasma-filled incendiary rounds" create a massive heat problem for soldiers using the rifle? Unless it's open-bolt, I can see this thing either setting itself on fire or simply exploding.

Also, I'm sorry to say. but the iron sight looks kind of fail, considering its location and the fact that there's only one.

Erhm, first try, I made some mistakes I can see.
I can imagine it is heavy, the butt is hollow if that helps and I thought the same thing about the iron sights, I just liked the look of it, I don't really see how it is ridiculously heavy though, as it doesn't appear to have any more features then some other rifles.
As for the bullets they aren't made from plasma, they are filled with incendiary plasma which is inside the round, it explodes on impact, also the bullets are fired by electro-magnetic means rather then chemical, which I understand is unfeasible as of today's technology at least in rifle form. Since there is less gas to no gas release the large portion of heat generated from the round is negated by the lack of gas.
Of course this is not true of my MT nation, then I suppose they are just bullets, and the gun works no different then any other rifle.

Not a bad explanation. As for the weight and unwieldyness, I'd like to point you towards the receiver. Judging by the rails, it looks like there's a box-shaped protrusion on the side, which as you can imagine could add a lot of unnecessary weight.

Also, the stock on a bullpup should never be hollow, as the stock usually is the receiver.

My gun ignorance is showing, so it isn't hollow at the back.
The thing that looks like a box was for aesthetic value only it isn't anything really, just a cover to conceal the meeting of the rail and the receiver which looked a little bit odd. So no there isn't anything protruding from the rail. If you mean the white line that is just a paint feature or perhaps the actual rail of the gun

I think you should have used a different cover.

That white stuff line is actually fairly reasonable-seeming considering the type of gun this is.

[Uawc]

Mosin-Nagant rifles of all models. Current military intelligence concerning the number of actually working models was lost under a pile of corrosive surplus ammunition.

Why not modernize it, like we did?

It's cheaper to use the original, you can't put a bayonet on that version, wood looks better, and the Nagant don't need to be tacticooled.

Doesn't need to be tacticooled? But...but...THERE ARE NO RAILS!
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Okay, joking aside, composites and polymers are lighter than wood. Also. you can put a UAWC bayonet on there. We've got lots of different bayonet lugs to suit all different kinds of guns.

[Verlorenen]

You don't have to give your gun up completly, a modernised SMLE made out of modern materials instead of wood, shortened further, and firing a smaller round may be to your liking.

My next project has been started!

[Senestrum]

Mosin-Nagant rifles of all models. Current military intelligence concerning the number of actually working models was lost under a pile of corrosive surplus ammunition.

Why not modernize it, like we did?

It's cheaper to use the original, you can't put a bayonet on that version, wood looks better, and the Nagant don't need to be tacticooled.

Doesn't need to be tacticooled? But...but...THERE ARE NO RAILS!
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Okay, joking aside, composites and polymers are lighter than wood. Also. you can put a UAWC bayonet on there. We've got lots of different bayonet lugs to suit all different kinds of guns.

YOU DO NOT CHANGE THE GLORIOUS MOSIN-NAGANT IN ANY WAY THAT DOES NOT INVOLVE A BAYONET.

PERIOD.