What is the main military weapon of your country?

[Uawc]

The UAWC has developed an improved, updated version of its old PDW, the FoS-40.

The FoS-50 personal defense weapon is a compact yet powerful addition to the Union's special forces. It fires 5.7x28mmR (the R standing for "red", meaning locally socialist-manufactured and has little if any connection to the Fabrique Nationale round of the same caliber) from a rear-inserted magazine of 50 rounds (not shown, but it's the same one the P90 and FoS-40 use). Empty cartridges are ejected bottomside. The FoS-50 PDW has a retracting stock instead of a folding one, though the new FoS-50 still has its predecessor's ballistic knife, hidden in the handle. Either stab your target in close or press the button and launch the knife. Then, just put the knife back in like nothing happened and shoot it out again later. Of course, it's not as large as the Spetznaz' Pilum Knife, but it's not exactly a primary offensive tactic as it stands anyway and is intended to be a surprise.

Oh, and I forgot to mention, it tears away at a solid 800 RPM.

[Uawc]

ooc: any other comments/questions about my SMG?

Stock looks uncomfortable. Beyond that it all looks pretty normal, and reminds me of the Sten and the UAWC's SPBH-30. Performance-wise it sounds excellent, though if I were you I would recommend to your weapons manufacturers to lower the fire rate a bit.

[The Ularn]

The UAWC has developed an improved, updated version of its old PDW, the FoS-40.

The FoS-50 personal defense weapon is a compact yet powerful addition to the Union's special forces. It fires 5.7x28mmR (the R standing for "red", meaning locally socialist-manufactured and has little if any connection to the Fabrique Nationale round of the same caliber) from a rear-inserted magazine of 50 rounds (not shown, but it's the same one the P90 and FoS-40 use). Empty cartridges are ejected bottomside. The FoS-50 PDW has a retracting stock instead of a folding one, though the new FoS-50 still has its predecessor's ballistic knife, hidden in the handle. Either stab your target in close or press the button and launch the knife. Then, just put the knife back in like nothing happened and shoot it out again later. Of course, it's not as large as the Spetznaz' Pilum Knife, but it's not exactly a primary offensive tactic as it stands anyway and is intended to be a surprise.

Oh, and I forgot to mention, it tears away at a solid 800 RPM.

You know what I'd find more surprising as a soldier? Being shot with something that might penetrate my armour. This "ballistic knife" of yours is unlikely to hurt anyone unless you aim for the face, in which case I can imagine some nasty scratches or maybe losing an eye in the worst case, while had you decided to just shoot him you would have killed him.

In any event, what actually launches this knife?

[Techno-Soviet]

You know what I'd find more surprising as a soldier? Being shot with something that might penetrate my armour. This "ballistic knife" of yours is unlikely to hurt anyone unless you aim for the face, in which case I can imagine some nasty scratches or maybe losing an eye in the worst case, while had you decided to just shoot him you would have killed him.

In any event, what actually launches this knife?

Actually, if you swing downward towards the neck and release the knife, assuming its the same the VDV and Spetsnas use, it will cut through the spinal cord (and clothing) and kill someone. Otherwise, his knife will most likely get stuck or bounce off. >.>

Of course you should only use a ballistic knife like that from behind. (duh UAWC)

[The Ularn]

In which case it still fails if your opponent is wearing back body armour or even a backpack.

[Satirius]

In which case it still fails if your opponent is wearing back body armour or even a backpack.

BUT STFU IT LOOKS COOL/sarcasm

[Nachmere]

NPS | Firearms Division Advanced Firearm System 6.5

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*Standard Rifle and Carbine

*Compact Carbine

*DMR

*SAW


Specifications:
Type: Modular Firearm System
Caliber: 6.5X39mm Grendel
Action: Gas operated, rotating bolt.
Overall length/Folded: 780mm/750mm/670mm/620mm
Barrel Length: 490mm/460mm/380mm/330mm
Weight, empty: 4.1Kg/3.8Kg/3.3Kg/3.1Kg
Rate of Fire: 910 rounds per minute
Magazine capacity: 15/30/65
Price per unit: 1300 USD with standard barrel, 300 USD for each extra barrel.
DPR price: 800,000,000 USD

Introduction:
The AFS-6.5 is a family of bullpup firearms developed by NPS for military and law enforcement use. The concept was to create a system which allows conversion of a single weapon to several roles. This increases flexibility and eases training and logistics. To ease development the design team used the CAR-50B bullpup as the start point for the project, although many changes were needed to allow barrel modularity in the field.

The caliber selected for the system is the 6.5X39mm Grendel, chosen as a compromise between the common 5.56X45mm and 7.62X51mm. The 6.5mm Grendel offers high accuracy and good penetration up to 600 yards.

Description:
Mechanically wise the AFS-6.5 is a relatively conventional gas operated long-stroke piston design, inspired by several designs. The cocking is located underneath the carrying handle, and is not physically connected to the bolt carrier. It can be easily cocked by left and right hand users. The massive piston is undetectably connected to the bolt and moves in the wide gas chamber located above the barrel. The bolt itself has two massive lugs for locking. Extracted shells are pushed into a chute and fall downwards behind the pistol grip, allowing safe shooting by left and right handed shooters.

The barrel has a carrying handle attached to it, and is detachable from the rifle. Detaching the barrel is done by pulling a lever on the carrying handle and rotating the barrel to the right. The barrel is than easily pulled away. Attaching the barrel is done similarly. First the barrel is inserted into place. Than it is rotated to the left until it is locked. Barrels exist in lengths varying from 330mm to 490mm, allowing the same weapon to be used as a compact carbine, designated marksman rifle, and even as a light machine gun.

The trigger group features an ambidextrous fire mode selection lever with safe, semi auto and three round burst modes. The magazine release lever is also located on both sides, for the sake of left handed shooters. The trigger guard, cocking handle and levers are all large enough to allow a gloved user to easily operate the weapon.

Furniture on the AFS-6.5 is made from mil-spec polymers. The rifle has integral picatinny rails on the carrying handle, as well as the sides and bottom of the grip. The carrying handle is attached to the barrel and so makes and extremely stable mount for optic sights. It also has standard “iron sights” integral to it.

The AFS-6.5 is fed from proprietary metal or polymer magazines in capacities of 15, 30, or 65 rounds.

[Solyhniya]

The ASL-24U (Avtomat Spaškov-Lukjanenko 24 Ukorochenyj) is a shortened version of the ASL-24. The layout is heavily based on the AKS-74U, yet the actual mechanics of the weapon remain much the same as the original assault rifle. This weapon features a red dot sight, a collapsible stock, a threaded barrel and a four option fire selector including three round burst setting. It is largely made of composite polymers, giving it an incredibly light weight combining to give an easy-to-manage feel along with its compact size. It is used almost solely used by Vlk special forces and is restricted for the use of the Solyhniyan military.

Caliber: 6.78 Solyhniyan
Fire Rate: 750rpm
Weight: 3.2kg loaded
Effective Range: 600m

*Comments on appearance? Any more details you would like to know?

That is probably the singular ugliest AK variant I've ever seen. Also one of the most awesome and practical-looking. Nice job.

So basically have a rifle as inaccurate as the Ak 47 but made out of modern matriels and larger caliber. So the part of the ruggeness is still there, a than more, and it a bit lighter. Why have a scope when you basically have a AK 47 with modern matriels. The AK-47 is legendary for being inaccurate.

It's not an AK, it uses an AK layout.

P.S. That's not a scope, it's a hooded red dot sight.

[Lord Tothe]

Ugh...x39...

Why the hate? The cartridge performs well enough in an SKS. The inaccuracy of AKs is more likely due to lack of maintenance, poor training, and components worn from use far beyond their intended replacement timeframe. I have seem impressive 300 yd. accuracy from a well-maintained AKM. Sure, it's no sniper rifle, but it's combat-accurate for intermediate ranges. Just don't shorten the barrel - if you want a submachine gun, get a submachine gun. A stubby barrel on an assault rifle makes it ineffective in either specialized role. 18"-24" (45-60 cm) is good for a light rifle cartridge.

[Neo Cairo]

The ASL-24U (Avtomat Spaškov-Lukjanenko 24 Ukorochenyj) is a shortened version of the ASL-24. The layout is heavily based on the AKS-74U, yet the actual mechanics of the weapon remain much the same as the original assault rifle. This weapon features a red dot sight, a collapsible stock, a threaded barrel and a four option fire selector including three round burst setting. It is largely made of composite polymers, giving it an incredibly light weight combining to give an easy-to-manage feel along with its compact size. It is used almost solely used by Vlk special forces and is restricted for the use of the Solyhniyan military.

Caliber: 6.78 Solyhniyan
Fire Rate: 750rpm
Weight: 3.2kg loaded
Effective Range: 600m

*Comments on appearance? Any more details you would like to know?

That is probably the singular ugliest AK variant I've ever seen. Also one of the most awesome and practical-looking. Nice job.

Ah, but the beauty of the AK is in its ugliness!

[Super fluffy]

After a massive military overhaul and with the changes to the entire lay out, Super Fluffy's main weapons have been decided as

m4 carbine
Ak-47

ACR

more weapons will be added later to this list. But for now those are the weapons of the urban combat army, the woodland army, and the arctic army. The ACR is used with all of those as well but it is mostly used with the mountain forces. The mountain forces also guard the area around the Super Fluffy palace. The weapons used by the Super Fluffy Guards is classified.

[Solyhniya]

Constructed mainly from modern polymers, the SP-10 is a lightweight, high capacity solution as a standard military sidearm. It has a higher muzzle velocity than standard 9mm pistols whilst weighing less than a .45, providing a good middle ground. It is widely used by the army and by anti-terror units. Vlk special forces use the SP-10A variant which includes a fire selector for full auto setting.

Caliber:10mm
Weight: 780g (loaded)
Magazine capacity:
-Standard: 14 + 1
-Extended (SP-10A): 30 + 1
Fire rate (SP-10A): 800rpm

[Satirius]

The ASL-24U (Avtomat Spaškov-Lukjanenko 24 Ukorochenyj) is a shortened version of the ASL-24. The layout is heavily based on the AKS-74U, yet the actual mechanics of the weapon remain much the same as the original assault rifle. This weapon features a red dot sight, a collapsible stock, a threaded barrel and a four option fire selector including three round burst setting. It is largely made of composite polymers, giving it an incredibly light weight combining to give an easy-to-manage feel along with its compact size. It is used almost solely used by Vlk special forces and is restricted for the use of the Solyhniyan military.

Caliber: 6.78 Solyhniyan
Fire Rate: 750rpm
Weight: 3.2kg loaded
Effective Range: 600m

*Comments on appearance? Any more details you would like to know?

That is probably the singular ugliest AK variant I've ever seen. Also one of the most awesome and practical-looking. Nice job.

So basically have a rifle as inaccurate as the Ak 47 but made out of modern matriels and larger caliber. So the part of the ruggeness is still there, a than more, and it a bit lighter. Why have a scope when you basically have a AK 47 with modern matriels. The AK-47 is legendary for being inaccurate.

It's not an AK, it uses an AK layout.

P.S. That's not a scope, it's a hooded red dot sight.

That's still an AK receiver with an AK bolt. The internal mechanism, as far as I can see, is Kalashnikov.

[Solyhniya]

The ASL-24U (Avtomat Spaškov-Lukjanenko 24 Ukorochenyj) is a shortened version of the ASL-24. The layout is heavily based on the AKS-74U, yet the actual mechanics of the weapon remain much the same as the original assault rifle. This weapon features a red dot sight, a collapsible stock, a threaded barrel and a four option fire selector including three round burst setting. It is largely made of composite polymers, giving it an incredibly light weight combining to give an easy-to-manage feel along with its compact size. It is used almost solely used by Vlk special forces and is restricted for the use of the Solyhniyan military.

Caliber: 6.78 Solyhniyan
Fire Rate: 750rpm
Weight: 3.2kg loaded
Effective Range: 600m

*Comments on appearance? Any more details you would like to know?

That is probably the singular ugliest AK variant I've ever seen. Also one of the most awesome and practical-looking. Nice job.

So basically have a rifle as inaccurate as the Ak 47 but made out of modern matriels and larger caliber. So the part of the ruggeness is still there, a than more, and it a bit lighter. Why have a scope when you basically have a AK 47 with modern matriels. The AK-47 is legendary for being inaccurate.

It's not an AK, it uses an AK layout.

P.S. That's not a scope, it's a hooded red dot sight.

That's still an AK receiver with an AK bolt. The internal mechanism, as far as I can see, is Kalashnikov.

Have a look at the Sa Vz. 58. You'll see it looks like an AK. In fact, it works in a completely different way.

[Satirius]

That's still an AK receiver with an AK bolt. The internal mechanism, as far as I can see, is Kalashnikov.

Have a look at the Sa Vz. 58. You'll see it looks like an AK. In fact, it works in a completely different way.

Still, it's not a Vz. 58. receiver. the bolt is exposed and there's no way in hell that thing can rotate. But I know PMG doesn't have anything not in a videogame, so I'll give you that.

[Crookfur]

That's still an AK receiver with an AK bolt. The internal mechanism, as far as I can see, is Kalashnikov.

Have a look at the Sa Vz. 58. You'll see it looks like an AK. In fact, it works in a completely different way.

Still, it's not a Vz. 58. receiver. the bolt is exposed and there's no way in hell that thing can rotate. But I know PMG doesn't have anything not in a videogame, so I'll give you that.

Ahem, the Vz.58 bolt doesn't rotate it uses a tilting locking peice, whislt the AK series on the other hand does use a rotating bolt. Oh and it isn't the bolt you can see on the AKs series but the bolt carrier.

[Uawc]

The UAWC has developed an improved, updated version of its old PDW, the FoS-40.

The FoS-50 personal defense weapon is a compact yet powerful addition to the Union's special forces. It fires 5.7x28mmR (the R standing for "red", meaning locally socialist-manufactured and has little if any connection to the Fabrique Nationale round of the same caliber) from a rear-inserted magazine of 50 rounds (not shown, but it's the same one the P90 and FoS-40 use). Empty cartridges are ejected bottomside. The FoS-50 PDW has a retracting stock instead of a folding one, though the new FoS-50 still has its predecessor's ballistic knife, hidden in the handle. Either stab your target in close or press the button and launch the knife. Then, just put the knife back in like nothing happened and shoot it out again later. Of course, it's not as large as the Spetznaz' Pilum Knife, but it's not exactly a primary offensive tactic as it stands anyway and is intended to be a surprise.

Oh, and I forgot to mention, it tears away at a solid 800 RPM.

You know what I'd find more surprising as a soldier? Being shot with something that might penetrate my armour. This "ballistic knife" of yours is unlikely to hurt anyone unless you aim for the face, in which case I can imagine some nasty scratches or maybe losing an eye in the worst case, while had you decided to just shoot him you would have killed him.

In any event, what actually launches this knife?

Obviously. The knife is just a last resort weapon hidden in the bloody pistol grip. What do you expect, a nuclear Death Star launcher? And of course, being a knife, stabbing is the primary use.

The internal workings are very similar to that of the Pilum knife. Just flick the sand-colored switch there.

[The Ularn]

The UAWC has developed an improved, updated version of its old PDW, the FoS-40.

The FoS-50 personal defense weapon is a compact yet powerful addition to the Union's special forces. It fires 5.7x28mmR (the R standing for "red", meaning locally socialist-manufactured and has little if any connection to the Fabrique Nationale round of the same caliber) from a rear-inserted magazine of 50 rounds (not shown, but it's the same one the P90 and FoS-40 use). Empty cartridges are ejected bottomside. The FoS-50 PDW has a retracting stock instead of a folding one, though the new FoS-50 still has its predecessor's ballistic knife, hidden in the handle. Either stab your target in close or press the button and launch the knife. Then, just put the knife back in like nothing happened and shoot it out again later. Of course, it's not as large as the Spetznaz' Pilum Knife, but it's not exactly a primary offensive tactic as it stands anyway and is intended to be a surprise.

Oh, and I forgot to mention, it tears away at a solid 800 RPM.

You know what I'd find more surprising as a soldier? Being shot with something that might penetrate my armour. This "ballistic knife" of yours is unlikely to hurt anyone unless you aim for the face, in which case I can imagine some nasty scratches or maybe losing an eye in the worst case, while had you decided to just shoot him you would have killed him.

In any event, what actually launches this knife?

Obviously. The knife is just a last resort weapon hidden in the bloody pistol grip. What do you expect, a nuclear Death Star launcher? And of course, being a knife, stabbing is the primary use.

The internal workings are very similar to that of the Pilum knife. Just flick the sand-colored switch there.

Okay, next question: How are you supposed to use a knife stuck there?

[Fatatatutti]

The knife is just a last resort weapon hidden in the bloody pistol grip. What do you expect, a nuclear Death Star launcher? And of course, being a knife, stabbing is the primary use.

You know what I expect in a pistol grip? Nothing. The knife strikes me as just so much more dead weight, an all-round bad idea. You'd be much better off with a proper knife on your belt or in your boot - which any soldier worth his salt already has.

A weapon is made versatile by removing built-ins and letting the user choose his own accessories.

-- Gen. Castro-Stalina

[Nachmere]

Yeah I have to agree. give me as much rail as possible and let me decide what to put on my rifle. chances are it will be no more than a tactical light...maybe a foregrip, if Im going to do alot of MOUT...

[The Archiepelago]

http://www.modelguns-worldwide.com/images/ak47tact1.jpg

http://nirahlee.com/iswwr/evidence/DeathStar1.jpg

http://www.trueswords.com/images/prod/c ... ne_540.jpg

http://www.gamereplays.org/community/up ... 117925.jpg

(those are our weapons)

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/R ... /jafar.jpg

(The Emperor uses the Staff (ooc: I was trying to get a picture of just the staff but can't))

Soo...six-barreled penis howitzers?

...uhm. no.

[Indeos]

An updated version of the N-9 submachine gun, which is intended to be a lightweight, reliable sub machine gun with a rate of fire of about 900rpm, having only a single shot and automatic mode of fire. It's primarily meant for SOBR and militia forces. the charging handle is on the side, and it's blowback operated.

It uses 35 round magazines made of stampled steel or polymers, has both a top rail for optics and a bottom one for forgrips and flashlights, etc. and can accept a suppressor. It's primarily chambered in 9x21 SP-10, but also exists in a 9x19 7N31, 7.62x25 and 10mm auto cartridges.

Just wondering, why bother with a single shot mode?

for use with a suppressor mainly, and for more precise shots. otherwise there really isn't a reason for it, for a weapon of this nature

You can suppress a full auto gun, and the precise shots come more from training.(Tell your soldiers that they can release the trigger after one shot, even in full auto.)

[Uawc]

The UAWC has developed an improved, updated version of its old PDW, the FoS-40.

The FoS-50 personal defense weapon is a compact yet powerful addition to the Union's special forces. It fires 5.7x28mmR (the R standing for "red", meaning locally socialist-manufactured and has little if any connection to the Fabrique Nationale round of the same caliber) from a rear-inserted magazine of 50 rounds (not shown, but it's the same one the P90 and FoS-40 use). Empty cartridges are ejected bottomside. The FoS-50 PDW has a retracting stock instead of a folding one, though the new FoS-50 still has its predecessor's ballistic knife, hidden in the handle. Either stab your target in close or press the button and launch the knife. Then, just put the knife back in like nothing happened and shoot it out again later. Of course, it's not as large as the Spetznaz' Pilum Knife, but it's not exactly a primary offensive tactic as it stands anyway and is intended to be a surprise.

Oh, and I forgot to mention, it tears away at a solid 800 RPM.

You know what I'd find more surprising as a soldier? Being shot with something that might penetrate my armour. This "ballistic knife" of yours is unlikely to hurt anyone unless you aim for the face, in which case I can imagine some nasty scratches or maybe losing an eye in the worst case, while had you decided to just shoot him you would have killed him.

In any event, what actually launches this knife?

Obviously. The knife is just a last resort weapon hidden in the bloody pistol grip. What do you expect, a nuclear Death Star launcher? And of course, being a knife, stabbing is the primary use.

The internal workings are very similar to that of the Pilum knife. Just flick the sand-colored switch there.

Okay, next question: How are you supposed to use a knife stuck there?

You pull it out and get stabby...?

[Uawc]

Yeah I have to agree. give me as much rail as possible and let me decide what to put on my rifle. chances are it will be no more than a tactical light...maybe a foregrip, if Im going to do alot of MOUT...

OOC: What the hell? I just can't win with you people, can I? When I give as much rail as possible, massive criticism. When I only put a moderate, reasonable amount of rail, and put on one thing to make it stand out from the crowd, still massive criticism.

I'm concluding that it's all a matter of personal preferences now and not a matter of whether or not the damn guns are actually any good.

[Joesavi]

The UAWC has developed an improved, updated version of its old PDW, the FoS-40.

The FoS-50 personal defense weapon is a compact yet powerful addition to the Union's special forces. It fires 5.7x28mmR (the R standing for "red", meaning locally socialist-manufactured and has little if any connection to the Fabrique Nationale round of the same caliber) from a rear-inserted magazine of 50 rounds (not shown, but it's the same one the P90 and FoS-40 use). Empty cartridges are ejected bottomside. The FoS-50 PDW has a retracting stock instead of a folding one, though the new FoS-50 still has its predecessor's ballistic knife, hidden in the handle. Either stab your target in close or press the button and launch the knife. Then, just put the knife back in like nothing happened and shoot it out again later. Of course, it's not as large as the Spetznaz' Pilum Knife, but it's not exactly a primary offensive tactic as it stands anyway and is intended to be a surprise.

Oh, and I forgot to mention, it tears away at a solid 800 RPM.

You know what I'd find more surprising as a soldier? Being shot with something that might penetrate my armour. This "ballistic knife" of yours is unlikely to hurt anyone unless you aim for the face, in which case I can imagine some nasty scratches or maybe losing an eye in the worst case, while had you decided to just shoot him you would have killed him.

In any event, what actually launches this knife?

Obviously. The knife is just a last resort weapon hidden in the bloody pistol grip. What do you expect, a nuclear Death Star launcher? And of course, being a knife, stabbing is the primary use.

The internal workings are very similar to that of the Pilum knife. Just flick the sand-colored switch there.

Okay, next question: How are you supposed to use a knife stuck there?

You pull it out and get stabby...?

I think Ularn misunderstood you and thought it was to be used as a bayonet when not launched.