What is the main military weapon of your country?

[Uawc]

Equipped with: Comp M3 red dot sight, S&B Short Dot scope, Colt CAR-15 flash hider, 30rd magazine with Magpul ranger plate, UBR fixed stock, FAB Defense TAL-4 foregrip, UPG-16 pistol grip, folding, rail-mounted bipod, Magpul detachable rail-mounted folding sights, VST front sight mount. Features a side-mounted scope for longer-range targets, although the scope mounts are able to turn, (enabling the scope to be mounted on the side of the firearm) therefore the soldier operating the weapon could swap the red dot to the side and the scope to the top of the firearm with no dificulty, for prolonged long-range use. Most parts coated in flat black finish. Capable of full auto fire at 675rpm.

This rifle was designed to fill the role of a DM rifle with the capability to engage closer-range targets aswell in specific situations. Used by some BSSR troops on missions where enemy engagement includes ranges >550m

Critizism? Comments? Suggestions?

Unnecessary bipod is unnecessary. Also, I think the fire rate is a bit higher than it should be. Beyond that, nice job.

I thought DM Rifles had bipods? (Honestly not sure, this is my first attempt at a DM)
Also, I based the fire rate on several battle rifles that can be/are turned into DM rifles (FN FAL - 650rpm, M14 - 750rpm, Mk. 14 EBR - 750rpm)

Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't.

Automatic fire detracts from accuracy and produces serious recoil when you use full-size rifle cartridges.

[Uawc]

Recently, a Union farmer was working his crops when he found a huge crop circle. The next day, another, the next day, another, each with brilliant, unearthly patterns. He then noticed that it wasn't just his farms. Soon, everyone got to talking about it, and it became a widely-acknowledged phenomenon here in the Union. One day, however, a farmer found a strange object in the crop circle. It was an unearthly blue, made of unknown materials, and had what looked to be a large knife attached to it.

That object, as UAWC scientists have determined, is a submachine gun of unknown origin. For the purposes of our experiments and learning about the weapon, we call it the ORCA. We're still learning about it, but we were able to get it to work and even reload it. We're still trying to figure out how to take it apart. It fires a .454 caliber round, usually used in revolvers (our own BC-454 fires it). It fires from a detachable, double-stacked, oddly comfortable to hold, side-mounted box magazine of 24 rounds. The magazine features a transparent window into the inside made of an unknown material which lets you see how many rounds are left. Its sight system is a 1.5x scope with night vision capabilities. The ORCA produces surprisingly low recoil for a weapon without a stock, possibly due to its superfluous muzzle brake. The ORCA is also loud and of moderate weight. It seems to feature a two-stage trigger, allowing the user to fire just one round or fully-automatic depending on how far you pull the trigger. When fully automatic, it fires at 550 RPM. It also has a detachable bayonet, again, made of an unknown blue material.

The grip is not visible from the outside; the user puts his or her hand through the sleeve of the gun to get to the grip and trigger, which fits snugly. The ORCA is surprisingly easy and comfortable to operate despite its lack of a stock and its outlandish design. We have no idea where it came from, but once we figure out how it works, what it's made of, and how to take it apart, we may produce our own and use the ORCA in our own military.

Can anyone help us out here? Where it might have came from, or opinions on the gun itself? We're still not entirely sure how it works, but we're working 'round the clock to figure it out.

My guess is it was dropped by a military using weapons that were designed by trained engineers, than an average farmer or factory worker like in UAWC.

^ This

OOC: You guys are trolls.

IC: If that were true, there would have been a hell of a lot more than just one.

I'm assuming it just fell out of the helicopter that was flying over your fields.

While that makes some sort of sense, that still doesn't explain the materials used to make the thing. It's unreal.

They are called composites something most of your guns probably wouldn't have since most people don't have large amounts of high-performance polyethylene, or ceramics to make the weapons they design lighter. Most other countries will, and definitely should if their gun is to be held out on the end of their arm, like the gun you found.

We do have composites, and yes, the Type-0 ORCA is made of some type of composite, but it's not something we've seen before. Any of us.

[The Anglo-Saxon Empire]

Recently, a Union farmer was working his crops when he found a huge crop circle. The next day, another, the next day, another, each with brilliant, unearthly patterns. He then noticed that it wasn't just his farms. Soon, everyone got to talking about it, and it became a widely-acknowledged phenomenon here in the Union. One day, however, a farmer found a strange object in the crop circle. It was an unearthly blue, made of unknown materials, and had what looked to be a large knife attached to it.

That object, as UAWC scientists have determined, is a submachine gun of unknown origin. For the purposes of our experiments and learning about the weapon, we call it the ORCA. We're still learning about it, but we were able to get it to work and even reload it. We're still trying to figure out how to take it apart. It fires a .454 caliber round, usually used in revolvers (our own BC-454 fires it). It fires from a detachable, double-stacked, oddly comfortable to hold, side-mounted box magazine of 24 rounds. The magazine features a transparent window into the inside made of an unknown material which lets you see how many rounds are left. Its sight system is a 1.5x scope with night vision capabilities. The ORCA produces surprisingly low recoil for a weapon without a stock, possibly due to its superfluous muzzle brake. The ORCA is also loud and of moderate weight. It seems to feature a two-stage trigger, allowing the user to fire just one round or fully-automatic depending on how far you pull the trigger. When fully automatic, it fires at 550 RPM. It also has a detachable bayonet, again, made of an unknown blue material.

The grip is not visible from the outside; the user puts his or her hand through the sleeve of the gun to get to the grip and trigger, which fits snugly. The ORCA is surprisingly easy and comfortable to operate despite its lack of a stock and its outlandish design. We have no idea where it came from, but once we figure out how it works, what it's made of, and how to take it apart, we may produce our own and use the ORCA in our own military.

Can anyone help us out here? Where it might have came from, or opinions on the gun itself? We're still not entirely sure how it works, but we're working 'round the clock to figure it out.

My guess is it was dropped by a military using weapons that were designed by trained engineers, than an average farmer or factory worker like in UAWC.

^ This

OOC: You guys are trolls.

IC: If that were true, there would have been a hell of a lot more than just one.

I'm assuming it just fell out of the helicopter that was flying over your fields.

While that makes some sort of sense, that still doesn't explain the materials used to make the thing. It's unreal.

They are called composites something most of your guns probably wouldn't have since most people don't have large amounts of high-performance polyethylene, or ceramics to make the weapons they design lighter. Most other countries will, and definitely should if their gun is to be held out on the end of their arm, like the gun you found.

We do have composites, and yes, the Type-0 ORCA is made of some type of composite, but it's not something we've seen before. Any of us.

Also there are plenty of metals, and compounds it could be. It could be that some scientist in another country created a brand new compound, and the government kept it secret so no one would find out about it. Also if i was really as advanced as you suggest wouldn't it use caseless ammunition, or something more advanced than regular cased ammo?

[Uawc]

Recently, a Union farmer was working his crops when he found a huge crop circle. The next day, another, the next day, another, each with brilliant, unearthly patterns. He then noticed that it wasn't just his farms. Soon, everyone got to talking about it, and it became a widely-acknowledged phenomenon here in the Union. One day, however, a farmer found a strange object in the crop circle. It was an unearthly blue, made of unknown materials, and had what looked to be a large knife attached to it.

That object, as UAWC scientists have determined, is a submachine gun of unknown origin. For the purposes of our experiments and learning about the weapon, we call it the ORCA. We're still learning about it, but we were able to get it to work and even reload it. We're still trying to figure out how to take it apart. It fires a .454 caliber round, usually used in revolvers (our own BC-454 fires it). It fires from a detachable, double-stacked, oddly comfortable to hold, side-mounted box magazine of 24 rounds. The magazine features a transparent window into the inside made of an unknown material which lets you see how many rounds are left. Its sight system is a 1.5x scope with night vision capabilities. The ORCA produces surprisingly low recoil for a weapon without a stock, possibly due to its superfluous muzzle brake. The ORCA is also loud and of moderate weight. It seems to feature a two-stage trigger, allowing the user to fire just one round or fully-automatic depending on how far you pull the trigger. When fully automatic, it fires at 550 RPM. It also has a detachable bayonet, again, made of an unknown blue material.

The grip is not visible from the outside; the user puts his or her hand through the sleeve of the gun to get to the grip and trigger, which fits snugly. The ORCA is surprisingly easy and comfortable to operate despite its lack of a stock and its outlandish design. We have no idea where it came from, but once we figure out how it works, what it's made of, and how to take it apart, we may produce our own and use the ORCA in our own military.

Can anyone help us out here? Where it might have came from, or opinions on the gun itself? We're still not entirely sure how it works, but we're working 'round the clock to figure it out.

My guess is it was dropped by a military using weapons that were designed by trained engineers, than an average farmer or factory worker like in UAWC.

^ This

OOC: You guys are trolls.

IC: If that were true, there would have been a hell of a lot more than just one.

I'm assuming it just fell out of the helicopter that was flying over your fields.

While that makes some sort of sense, that still doesn't explain the materials used to make the thing. It's unreal.

They are called composites something most of your guns probably wouldn't have since most people don't have large amounts of high-performance polyethylene, or ceramics to make the weapons they design lighter. Most other countries will, and definitely should if their gun is to be held out on the end of their arm, like the gun you found.

We do have composites, and yes, the Type-0 ORCA is made of some type of composite, but it's not something we've seen before. Any of us.

Also there are plenty of metals, and compounds it could be. It could be that some scientist in another country created a brand new compound, and the government kept it secret so no one would find out about it. Also if i was really as advanced as you suggest wouldn't it use caseless ammunition, or something more advanced than regular cased ammo?

Indeed that is possible. We will consider this. However, it doesn't explain why we found the bloody thing in a crop circle.

It isn't particularly advanced however, just really different. If it were as advanced as I seem to have been suggesting, it probably would have been covered in rails.

[The Anglo-Saxon Empire]

Recently, a Union farmer was working his crops when he found a huge crop circle. The next day, another, the next day, another, each with brilliant, unearthly patterns. He then noticed that it wasn't just his farms. Soon, everyone got to talking about it, and it became a widely-acknowledged phenomenon here in the Union. One day, however, a farmer found a strange object in the crop circle. It was an unearthly blue, made of unknown materials, and had what looked to be a large knife attached to it.

That object, as UAWC scientists have determined, is a submachine gun of unknown origin. For the purposes of our experiments and learning about the weapon, we call it the ORCA. We're still learning about it, but we were able to get it to work and even reload it. We're still trying to figure out how to take it apart. It fires a .454 caliber round, usually used in revolvers (our own BC-454 fires it). It fires from a detachable, double-stacked, oddly comfortable to hold, side-mounted box magazine of 24 rounds. The magazine features a transparent window into the inside made of an unknown material which lets you see how many rounds are left. Its sight system is a 1.5x scope with night vision capabilities. The ORCA produces surprisingly low recoil for a weapon without a stock, possibly due to its superfluous muzzle brake. The ORCA is also loud and of moderate weight. It seems to feature a two-stage trigger, allowing the user to fire just one round or fully-automatic depending on how far you pull the trigger. When fully automatic, it fires at 550 RPM. It also has a detachable bayonet, again, made of an unknown blue material.

The grip is not visible from the outside; the user puts his or her hand through the sleeve of the gun to get to the grip and trigger, which fits snugly. The ORCA is surprisingly easy and comfortable to operate despite its lack of a stock and its outlandish design. We have no idea where it came from, but once we figure out how it works, what it's made of, and how to take it apart, we may produce our own and use the ORCA in our own military.

Can anyone help us out here? Where it might have came from, or opinions on the gun itself? We're still not entirely sure how it works, but we're working 'round the clock to figure it out.

My guess is it was dropped by a military using weapons that were designed by trained engineers, than an average farmer or factory worker like in UAWC.

^ This

OOC: You guys are trolls.

IC: If that were true, there would have been a hell of a lot more than just one.

I'm assuming it just fell out of the helicopter that was flying over your fields.

While that makes some sort of sense, that still doesn't explain the materials used to make the thing. It's unreal.

They are called composites something most of your guns probably wouldn't have since most people don't have large amounts of high-performance polyethylene, or ceramics to make the weapons they design lighter. Most other countries will, and definitely should if their gun is to be held out on the end of their arm, like the gun you found.

We do have composites, and yes, the Type-0 ORCA is made of some type of composite, but it's not something we've seen before. Any of us.

Also there are plenty of metals, and compounds it could be. It could be that some scientist in another country created a brand new compound, and the government kept it secret so no one would find out about it. Also if i was really as advanced as you suggest wouldn't it use caseless ammunition, or something more advanced than regular cased ammo?

Indeed that is possible. We will consider this. However, it doesn't explain why we found the bloody thing in a crop circle.

It isn't particularly advanced however, just really different. If it were as advanced as I seem to have been suggesting, it probably would have been covered in rails.

<--- This is what I did after reading your comment (about the rails).

[Imperial isa]

[spoiler]

Recently, a Union farmer was working his crops when he found a huge crop circle. The next day, another, the next day, another, each with brilliant, unearthly patterns. He then noticed that it wasn't just his farms. Soon, everyone got to talking about it, and it became a widely-acknowledged phenomenon here in the Union. One day, however, a farmer found a strange object in the crop circle. It was an unearthly blue, made of unknown materials, and had what looked to be a large knife attached to it.

That object, as UAWC scientists have determined, is a submachine gun of unknown origin. For the purposes of our experiments and learning about the weapon, we call it the ORCA. We're still learning about it, but we were able to get it to work and even reload it. We're still trying to figure out how to take it apart. It fires a .454 caliber round, usually used in revolvers (our own BC-454 fires it). It fires from a detachable, double-stacked, oddly comfortable to hold, side-mounted box magazine of 24 rounds. The magazine features a transparent window into the inside made of an unknown material which lets you see how many rounds are left. Its sight system is a 1.5x scope with night vision capabilities. The ORCA produces surprisingly low recoil for a weapon without a stock, possibly due to its superfluous muzzle brake. The ORCA is also loud and of moderate weight. It seems to feature a two-stage trigger, allowing the user to fire just one round or fully-automatic depending on how far you pull the trigger. When fully automatic, it fires at 550 RPM. It also has a detachable bayonet, again, made of an unknown blue material.

The grip is not visible from the outside; the user puts his or her hand through the sleeve of the gun to get to the grip and trigger, which fits snugly. The ORCA is surprisingly easy and comfortable to operate despite its lack of a stock and its outlandish design. We have no idea where it came from, but once we figure out how it works, what it's made of, and how to take it apart, we may produce our own and use the ORCA in our own military.

Can anyone help us out here? Where it might have came from, or opinions on the gun itself? We're still not entirely sure how it works, but we're working 'round the clock to figure it out.

My guess is it was dropped by a military using weapons that were designed by trained engineers, than an average farmer or factory worker like in UAWC.

^ This

OOC: You guys are trolls.

IC: If that were true, there would have been a hell of a lot more than just one.

I'm assuming it just fell out of the helicopter that was flying over your fields.

While that makes some sort of sense, that still doesn't explain the materials used to make the thing. It's unreal.

They are called composites something most of your guns probably wouldn't have since most people don't have large amounts of high-performance polyethylene, or ceramics to make the weapons they design lighter. Most other countries will, and definitely should if their gun is to be held out on the end of their arm, like the gun you found.

We do have composites, and yes, the Type-0 ORCA is made of some type of composite, but it's not something we've seen before. Any of us.

Also there are plenty of metals, and compounds it could be. It could be that some scientist in another country created a brand new compound, and the government kept it secret so no one would find out about it. Also if i was really as advanced as you suggest wouldn't it use caseless ammunition, or something more advanced than regular cased ammo?

Indeed that is possible. We will consider this. However, it doesn't explain why we found the bloody thing in a crop circle.

It isn't particularly advanced however, just really different. If it were as advanced as I seem to have been suggesting, it probably would have been covered in rails.

[Conolian Islands]

My weapon is a nuke

nukes when you are tired of talking

[Satirius]

[spoiler]

Recently, a Union farmer was working his crops when he found a huge crop circle. The next day, another, the next day, another, each with brilliant, unearthly patterns. He then noticed that it wasn't just his farms. Soon, everyone got to talking about it, and it became a widely-acknowledged phenomenon here in the Union. One day, however, a farmer found a strange object in the crop circle. It was an unearthly blue, made of unknown materials, and had what looked to be a large knife attached to it.

That object, as UAWC scientists have determined, is a submachine gun of unknown origin. For the purposes of our experiments and learning about the weapon, we call it the ORCA. We're still learning about it, but we were able to get it to work and even reload it. We're still trying to figure out how to take it apart. It fires a .454 caliber round, usually used in revolvers (our own BC-454 fires it). It fires from a detachable, double-stacked, oddly comfortable to hold, side-mounted box magazine of 24 rounds. The magazine features a transparent window into the inside made of an unknown material which lets you see how many rounds are left. Its sight system is a 1.5x scope with night vision capabilities. The ORCA produces surprisingly low recoil for a weapon without a stock, possibly due to its superfluous muzzle brake. The ORCA is also loud and of moderate weight. It seems to feature a two-stage trigger, allowing the user to fire just one round or fully-automatic depending on how far you pull the trigger. When fully automatic, it fires at 550 RPM. It also has a detachable bayonet, again, made of an unknown blue material.

The grip is not visible from the outside; the user puts his or her hand through the sleeve of the gun to get to the grip and trigger, which fits snugly. The ORCA is surprisingly easy and comfortable to operate despite its lack of a stock and its outlandish design. We have no idea where it came from, but once we figure out how it works, what it's made of, and how to take it apart, we may produce our own and use the ORCA in our own military.

Can anyone help us out here? Where it might have came from, or opinions on the gun itself? We're still not entirely sure how it works, but we're working 'round the clock to figure it out.

My guess is it was dropped by a military using weapons that were designed by trained engineers, than an average farmer or factory worker like in UAWC.

^ This

OOC: You guys are trolls.

IC: If that were true, there would have been a hell of a lot more than just one.

I'm assuming it just fell out of the helicopter that was flying over your fields.

[/spoiler]

Or some black ops group with an incredible sense of humor. Hey, you never know.

[The Anglo-Saxon Empire]

"Hey, go take that shitty looking tacticooled SMG you got and lets drop it in the middle of this crop circle we're making, for the lulz."

"Fuckin' A, mate!"

I really can't stop laughing. If that turns out to be the case, I want to find those special forces so I can give them a medal.

[Uawc]

Recently, a Union farmer was working his crops when he found a huge crop circle. The next day, another, the next day, another, each with brilliant, unearthly patterns. He then noticed that it wasn't just his farms. Soon, everyone got to talking about it, and it became a widely-acknowledged phenomenon here in the Union. One day, however, a farmer found a strange object in the crop circle. It was an unearthly blue, made of unknown materials, and had what looked to be a large knife attached to it.

That object, as UAWC scientists have determined, is a submachine gun of unknown origin. For the purposes of our experiments and learning about the weapon, we call it the ORCA. We're still learning about it, but we were able to get it to work and even reload it. We're still trying to figure out how to take it apart. It fires a .454 caliber round, usually used in revolvers (our own BC-454 fires it). It fires from a detachable, double-stacked, oddly comfortable to hold, side-mounted box magazine of 24 rounds. The magazine features a transparent window into the inside made of an unknown material which lets you see how many rounds are left. Its sight system is a 1.5x scope with night vision capabilities. The ORCA produces surprisingly low recoil for a weapon without a stock, possibly due to its superfluous muzzle brake. The ORCA is also loud and of moderate weight. It seems to feature a two-stage trigger, allowing the user to fire just one round or fully-automatic depending on how far you pull the trigger. When fully automatic, it fires at 550 RPM. It also has a detachable bayonet, again, made of an unknown blue material.

The grip is not visible from the outside; the user puts his or her hand through the sleeve of the gun to get to the grip and trigger, which fits snugly. The ORCA is surprisingly easy and comfortable to operate despite its lack of a stock and its outlandish design. We have no idea where it came from, but once we figure out how it works, what it's made of, and how to take it apart, we may produce our own and use the ORCA in our own military.

Can anyone help us out here? Where it might have came from, or opinions on the gun itself? We're still not entirely sure how it works, but we're working 'round the clock to figure it out.

My guess is it was dropped by a military using weapons that were designed by trained engineers, than an average farmer or factory worker like in UAWC.

^ This

OOC: You guys are trolls.

IC: If that were true, there would have been a hell of a lot more than just one.

I'm assuming it just fell out of the helicopter that was flying over your fields.

While that makes some sort of sense, that still doesn't explain the materials used to make the thing. It's unreal.

They are called composites something most of your guns probably wouldn't have since most people don't have large amounts of high-performance polyethylene, or ceramics to make the weapons they design lighter. Most other countries will, and definitely should if their gun is to be held out on the end of their arm, like the gun you found.

We do have composites, and yes, the Type-0 ORCA is made of some type of composite, but it's not something we've seen before. Any of us.

Also there are plenty of metals, and compounds it could be. It could be that some scientist in another country created a brand new compound, and the government kept it secret so no one would find out about it. Also if i was really as advanced as you suggest wouldn't it use caseless ammunition, or something more advanced than regular cased ammo?

Indeed that is possible. We will consider this. However, it doesn't explain why we found the bloody thing in a crop circle.

It isn't particularly advanced however, just really different. If it were as advanced as I seem to have been suggesting, it probably would have been covered in rails.

If it was that advanced, it would not need the accessories or the rails woul be internalized and you could reveal them and add stuff when needed.

You are both absolutely correct and oblivious to the fact that I was joking, which I seemed to have used the wrong smiley to indicate.

[Uawc]

now why in hell would a alien need rails when they have the technology to build all they need in the body of the weapon it self ??

Again, I was joking.

[Imperial isa]

"Hey, go take that shitty looking tacticooled SMG you got and lets drop it in the middle of this crop circle we're making, for the lulz."

"Fuckin' A, mate!"

I really can't stop laughing. If that turns out to be the case, I want to find those special forces so I can give them a medal.

occ i wonder if they in the special forces phone book

[Uawc]

Recently, a Union farmer was working his crops when he found a huge crop circle. The next day, another, the next day, another, each with brilliant, unearthly patterns. He then noticed that it wasn't just his farms. Soon, everyone got to talking about it, and it became a widely-acknowledged phenomenon here in the Union. One day, however, a farmer found a strange object in the crop circle. It was an unearthly blue, made of unknown materials, and had what looked to be a large knife attached to it.

That object, as UAWC scientists have determined, is a submachine gun of unknown origin. For the purposes of our experiments and learning about the weapon, we call it the ORCA. We're still learning about it, but we were able to get it to work and even reload it. We're still trying to figure out how to take it apart. It fires a .454 caliber round, usually used in revolvers (our own BC-454 fires it). It fires from a detachable, double-stacked, oddly comfortable to hold, side-mounted box magazine of 24 rounds. The magazine features a transparent window into the inside made of an unknown material which lets you see how many rounds are left. Its sight system is a 1.5x scope with night vision capabilities. The ORCA produces surprisingly low recoil for a weapon without a stock, possibly due to its superfluous muzzle brake. The ORCA is also loud and of moderate weight. It seems to feature a two-stage trigger, allowing the user to fire just one round or fully-automatic depending on how far you pull the trigger. When fully automatic, it fires at 550 RPM. It also has a detachable bayonet, again, made of an unknown blue material.

The grip is not visible from the outside; the user puts his or her hand through the sleeve of the gun to get to the grip and trigger, which fits snugly. The ORCA is surprisingly easy and comfortable to operate despite its lack of a stock and its outlandish design. We have no idea where it came from, but once we figure out how it works, what it's made of, and how to take it apart, we may produce our own and use the ORCA in our own military.

Can anyone help us out here? Where it might have came from, or opinions on the gun itself? We're still not entirely sure how it works, but we're working 'round the clock to figure it out.

My guess is it was dropped by a military using weapons that were designed by trained engineers, than an average farmer or factory worker like in UAWC.

^ This

OOC: You guys are trolls.

IC: If that were true, there would have been a hell of a lot more than just one.

I'm assuming it just fell out of the helicopter that was flying over your fields.

While that makes some sort of sense, that still doesn't explain the materials used to make the thing. It's unreal.

They are called composites something most of your guns probably wouldn't have since most people don't have large amounts of high-performance polyethylene, or ceramics to make the weapons they design lighter. Most other countries will, and definitely should if their gun is to be held out on the end of their arm, like the gun you found.

We do have composites, and yes, the Type-0 ORCA is made of some type of composite, but it's not something we've seen before. Any of us.

Also there are plenty of metals, and compounds it could be. It could be that some scientist in another country created a brand new compound, and the government kept it secret so no one would find out about it. Also if i was really as advanced as you suggest wouldn't it use caseless ammunition, or something more advanced than regular cased ammo?

Indeed that is possible. We will consider this. However, it doesn't explain why we found the bloody thing in a crop circle.

It isn't particularly advanced however, just really different. If it were as advanced as I seem to have been suggesting, it probably would have been covered in rails.

<--- This is what I did after reading your comment (about the rails).

<--- This is what I did after realizing that nobody got my bad joke.

[Ramsetia]

Why would a highly advanced and supposedly alien weapon require a detachable bayonet, as opposed to something actuated that just flips out when needed?

Also, yes, comments on why doesn't it use caseless ammo or some form of rail propulsion system

And the fact it uses a round you already use in your own weapons is...to quote our leading shieldsmiths...'Just. Plain. Kooky.' They then proceeded to place their hands to their face, and go about attempts to update the Katarr SMG after lessons learned in the field.

[Uawc]

Why would a highly advanced and supposedly alien weapon require a detachable bayonet, as opposed to something actuated that just flips out when needed?

Probably to reduce the amount of moving parts, something I can understand.

Also, yes, comments on why doesn't it use caseless ammo or some form of rail propulsion system

I don't know. Just because something is alien doesn't necessarily mean it's that much ahead of what we already have, but then again, caseless ammo does have a problem with cookoff...as well as heat sensitivity. Maybe it's from a hot place?

And the fact it uses a round you already use in your own weapons is...to quote our leading shieldsmiths...'Just. Plain. Kooky.' They then proceeded to place their hands to their face, and go about attempts to update the Katarr SMG after lessons learned in the field.

Yes, I and the others who have been working with this agree. It could just be a coincidence, but...

[Niur]

Crap, now this page is all screwed up.


You damned dirty apes!

[Ramsetia]

Why would a highly advanced and supposedly alien weapon require a detachable bayonet, as opposed to something actuated that just flips out when needed?

Probably to reduce the amount of moving parts, something I can understand.

Also, yes, comments on why doesn't it use caseless ammo or some form of rail propulsion system

I don't know. Just because something is alien doesn't necessarily mean it's that much ahead of what we already have, but then again, caseless ammo does have a problem with cookoff...

And the fact it uses a round you already use in your own weapons is...to quote our leading shieldsmiths...'Just. Plain. Kooky.' They then proceeded to place their hands to their face, and go about attempts to update the Katarr SMG after lessons learned in the field.

Yes, I and the others who have been working with this agree. It could just be a coincidence, but...

There are several other factors which make this 'ORCA' system highly suspicious. Indeed, it seems quite evocative of many of your currently produced weapons, bad design and rigid adherence to the ideal of 'most rugged weapon wins', refusal to pay attention in design classes, the use of a magazine as a handgrip (and not the magazine well, to stop damage or materials fatigue to the magwell and/or feed system), atrocious ergonomics, and other elements that have many nations rolling their eyes.

A betting pool amongst the Imperial Assembly (the senate has very little else to do with it's time) has resulted in the following suggestions. They don't calculate odds, They're politicians, not mathematicians.

A time travel experiment gone awry
see above, but from a world where the laws of physics have taken a nap.
A prototype from your own military groups
Incredibly stupid aliens
someone playing a prank with a children's toy or demonstrator mock-up
A plastic casing around one of your existing weapon's mechanism

[L3 Communications]

"Hey, go take that shitty looking tacticooled SMG you got and lets drop it in the middle of this crop circle we're making, for the lulz."

"Fuckin' A, mate!"

I really can't stop laughing. If that turns out to be the case, I want to find those special forces so I can give them a medal.

Oi, someone broke the quote

[The Anglo-Saxon Empire]

"Hey, go take that shitty looking tacticooled SMG you got and lets drop it in the middle of this crop circle we're making, for the lulz."

"Fuckin' A, mate!"

I really can't stop laughing. If that turns out to be the case, I want to find those special forces so I can give them a medal.

Oi, someone broke the quote

I did? ......Damn

[Niur]

Recently, a Union farmer was working his crops when he found a huge crop circle. The next day, another, the next day, another, each with brilliant, unearthly patterns. He then noticed that it wasn't just his farms. Soon, everyone got to talking about it, and it became a widely-acknowledged phenomenon here in the Union. One day, however, a farmer found a strange object in the crop circle. It was an unearthly blue, made of unknown materials, and had what looked to be a large knife attached to it.

That object, as UAWC scientists have determined, is a submachine gun of unknown origin. For the purposes of our experiments and learning about the weapon, we call it the ORCA. We're still learning about it, but we were able to get it to work and even reload it. We're still trying to figure out how to take it apart. It fires a .454 caliber round, usually used in revolvers (our own BC-454 fires it). It fires from a detachable, double-stacked, oddly comfortable to hold, side-mounted box magazine of 24 rounds. The magazine features a transparent window into the inside made of an unknown material which lets you see how many rounds are left. Its sight system is a 1.5x scope with night vision capabilities. The ORCA produces surprisingly low recoil for a weapon without a stock, possibly due to its superfluous muzzle brake. The ORCA is also loud and of moderate weight. It seems to feature a two-stage trigger, allowing the user to fire just one round or fully-automatic depending on how far you pull the trigger. When fully automatic, it fires at 550 RPM. It also has a detachable bayonet, again, made of an unknown blue material.

The grip is not visible from the outside; the user puts his or her hand through the sleeve of the gun to get to the grip and trigger, which fits snugly. The ORCA is surprisingly easy and comfortable to operate despite its lack of a stock and its outlandish design. We have no idea where it came from, but once we figure out how it works, what it's made of, and how to take it apart, we may produce our own and use the ORCA in our own military.

Can anyone help us out here? Where it might have came from, or opinions on the gun itself? We're still not entirely sure how it works, but we're working 'round the clock to figure it out.

My guess is it was dropped by a military using weapons that were designed by trained engineers, than an average farmer or factory worker like in UAWC.

^ This

OOC: You guys are trolls.

IC: If that were true, there would have been a hell of a lot more than just one.

I'm assuming it just fell out of the helicopter that was flying over your fields.

While that makes some sort of sense, that still doesn't explain the materials used to make the thing. It's unreal.

They are called composites something most of your guns probably wouldn't have since most people don't have large amounts of high-performance polyethylene, or ceramics to make the weapons they design lighter. Most other countries will, and definitely should if their gun is to be held out on the end of their arm, like the gun you found.

We do have composites, and yes, the Type-0 ORCA is made of some type of composite, but it's not something we've seen before. Any of us.

Also there are plenty of metals, and compounds it could be. It could be that some scientist in another country created a brand new compound, and the government kept it secret so no one would find out about it. Also if i was really as advanced as you suggest wouldn't it use caseless ammunition, or something more advanced than regular cased ammo?

Indeed that is possible. We will consider this. However, it doesn't explain why we found the bloody thing in a crop circle.

It isn't particularly advanced however, just really different. If it were as advanced as I seem to have been suggesting, it probably would have been covered in rails.

<--- This is what I did after reading your comment (about the rails).

<--- This is what I did after realizing that nobody got my bad joke.

What the? Is this what has been screwing up this thread, gigantic quote pyramids?

[Imperial isa]

ooc we wouldn't have gigantic quote pyramids if we could just quote the post we just wanted too quote

[Niur]

[Imperial isa]

ooc spoilers only can handle so many quotes

[Byelorussian SSR]

Fires the .44 Magnum round out of a 7 or 14 round magazine, with a 9 inch barrel.

Just a prototype, not being put into production yet. [I guess it would fall under the PDW category? ]

Any suggestions? I'm not set on the the .44 round either. Maybe the .32 S&W Long? .40 S&W? 10mm Auto?

EDIT: Forgot to mention, credit goes to Ramsetia for the initial design!

[Byelorussian SSR]

Oh, and seriously guys, stop with the quote pyramids. They screw up the page and make it really long. At least put them in a spoiler!!