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Postby The Grand World Order » Sun Feb 07, 2010 12:43 pm

The Grand World Order wrote:The GWO's two most commonly issued primary firearms are:

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The MI-8A2 Modular Assault Weapon.

The MI-8A2 was designed by a joint team between the GWO Military Engineering Division and the Emorden-Geist Weapons Manufacturing Corporation. It's appearance was intentionally based off of the XM8 by Heckler and Koch.

The MI-8A2 is COMPLETELY modular. Parts can quickly be swapped out to change the role of the weapon- as well as the caliber. The MI-8A2 can be modified to fire just about any infantry cartridge, provided that the wielder has the right role and caliber kits to do so. Now, this would produce a logistics nightmare if the GWO issued out every caliber to its military- however, it only issues certain rounds, but other users of the MI-8A2 can purchase it with kits for their own cartridges.

A GWO soldier usually is carrying two kits for his MI-8A2- a 6.5 Grendel Assault Rifle Kit and an 8mm Mauser Battle Rifle kit. Of course, the latter (or even the former) often can double as a sniper rifle, presuming the soldier has a proper scope. 5.7mm is also rather common, for use especially in the Compact format.

As the GWO is a nation full of war profiteers, it is not uncommon to see weapons company traders following GWO forces around and selling additional kits, ammunition, et cetera on and around bases. Usually GWO soldiers don't carry much, if any, money on them when on duty, but some soldiers prefer calibers and attachments that they have experience with, so it is fully possible to end up fighting a GWO soldier with .338 Lapua Magnum loaded up into his rifle, or, albeit EXTREMELY rare, .700 Nitro Express or 5.56x45.



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The FSIAAS, or EG-SAAS12. (Picture is without magazine installed)

The FSIAAS is an automatic, 12-gauge assault shotgun featuring a V-like bolt system to help manage recoil. There's really not much to say on it, other than it has a firing rate of roughly 240 RPM, though modifications do exist regarding the firing rate (and, naturally, these can be found being sold by arms dealers stalking the GWO military). The FSIAAS can fire in full or semi automatic.

The FSIAAS was built to be rather similar to the MI-8A2. It sports the same pistol grip, similar stock, and comes default with the same sights. Usually, FSIAASes are issued with vertical grip attachments.

The FSIAAS plays a somewhat vital role in the operations of GWO soldiers. Given that most combat occurs in the cities, especially when the GWO is involved, this means that the enemy won't be too far away in a firefight, and CQB situations are more likely to occur. Shotguns can provide devastating fire in these sorts of situations.



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Postby Uawc » Sun Feb 07, 2010 1:06 pm

The Grand World Order wrote:
The Grand World Order wrote:The GWO's two most commonly issued primary firearms are:

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The MI-8A2 Modular Assault Weapon.

The MI-8A2 was designed by a joint team between the GWO Military Engineering Division and the Emorden-Geist Weapons Manufacturing Corporation. It's appearance was intentionally based off of the XM8 by Heckler and Koch.

The MI-8A2 is COMPLETELY modular. Parts can quickly be swapped out to change the role of the weapon- as well as the caliber. The MI-8A2 can be modified to fire just about any infantry cartridge, provided that the wielder has the right role and caliber kits to do so. Now, this would produce a logistics nightmare if the GWO issued out every caliber to its military- however, it only issues certain rounds, but other users of the MI-8A2 can purchase it with kits for their own cartridges.

A GWO soldier usually is carrying two kits for his MI-8A2- a 6.5 Grendel Assault Rifle Kit and an 8mm Mauser Battle Rifle kit. Of course, the latter (or even the former) often can double as a sniper rifle, presuming the soldier has a proper scope. 5.7mm is also rather common, for use especially in the Compact format.

As the GWO is a nation full of war profiteers, it is not uncommon to see weapons company traders following GWO forces around and selling additional kits, ammunition, et cetera on and around bases. Usually GWO soldiers don't carry much, if any, money on them when on duty, but some soldiers prefer calibers and attachments that they have experience with, so it is fully possible to end up fighting a GWO soldier with .338 Lapua Magnum loaded up into his rifle, or, albeit EXTREMELY rare, .700 Nitro Express or 5.56x45.



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The FSIAAS, or EG-SAAS12. (Picture is without magazine installed)

The FSIAAS is an automatic, 12-gauge assault shotgun featuring a V-like bolt system to help manage recoil. There's really not much to say on it, other than it has a firing rate of roughly 240 RPM, though modifications do exist regarding the firing rate (and, naturally, these can be found being sold by arms dealers stalking the GWO military). The FSIAAS can fire in full or semi automatic.

The FSIAAS was built to be rather similar to the MI-8A2. It sports the same pistol grip, similar stock, and comes default with the same sights. Usually, FSIAASes are issued with vertical grip attachments.

The FSIAAS plays a somewhat vital role in the operations of GWO soldiers. Given that most combat occurs in the cities, especially when the GWO is involved, this means that the enemy won't be too far away in a firefight, and CQB situations are more likely to occur. Shotguns can provide devastating fire in these sorts of situations.



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The rifle is excellent and I have little else to say about it. The automatic shotgun looks almost suspiciously reminiscent of the UAWC's AMPS-S11 (particularly around the selector switch and stock), although the specs are quite different (especially fire rate, since our shotgun goes at almost double that of yours [400 RPM]), and I must commend your weapons designers on the V-bolt design. Although, I must ask, where is the ejection port? Also, isn't the barrel unnecessarily wide?
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Postby Satirius » Sun Feb 07, 2010 1:58 pm

Arritus wrote:
Satirius wrote:Image
Assault Rifle, Model 5, Initial Revision (AR5)

Chambered in 6.75mm Rush rounds. To keep the profile down, the only thing above the barrel is the gas tube. Shells are ejected forward in the lower tube.

EDIT: OOC: Will fix flash hider later.


Looks similar to the rifle I posted yesterday (well, a bullpup with minimised profile). My design had the gas parts beside the barrel so achieved an even lower profile. It looks to me like you neen to raise the iron sights a bit or they will be too low to look down, though I could be wrong. My advice to test it woulld be to put an acog sight on the model, and see if the extended iron sights are at the same hight.

I decided not to go with forwar ejection, but I experimented a bit. I'd put the ejection tube beside the barrel too, as with gas parts and the ejection tube, this gun will have a greater profile than most bullpups. Also the ejection tube looks too skinny to fit cartrages through.


Yes, your bullpup was in fact the inspiration for this. You sir, have good taste. But wouldn't having the gas system beside the barrel make the gun recoil in two directions? I've heard that the AK's system is actually slightly off-center(also is very rough) most of the time so it recoils up and right.

About the ejection tube, I'll make sure to resize it and/or downsize the cartridges.

EDIT: Revision be done. Retcon: rear sight is open when flipped down, aperture when up.
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Postby Uawc » Sun Feb 07, 2010 4:37 pm

UAWC wrote:Recently, a Union farmer was working his crops when he found a huge crop circle. The next day, another, the next day, another, each with brilliant, unearthly patterns. He then noticed that it wasn't just his farms. Soon, everyone got to talking about it, and it became a widely-acknowledged phenomenon here in the Union. One day, however, a farmer found a strange object in the crop circle. It was an unearthly blue, made of unknown materials, and had what looked to be a large knife attached to it.

That object, as UAWC scientists have determined, is a submachine gun of unknown origin. For the purposes of our experiments and learning about the weapon, we call it the ORCA. We're still learning about it, but we were able to get it to work and even reload it. We're still trying to figure out how to take it apart. It fires a .454 caliber round, usually used in revolvers (our own BC-454 fires it). It fires from a detachable, double-stacked, oddly comfortable to hold, side-mounted box magazine of 24 rounds. The magazine features a transparent window into the inside made of an unknown material which lets you see how many rounds are left. Its sight system is a 1.5x scope with night vision capabilities. The ORCA produces surprisingly low recoil for a weapon without a stock, possibly due to its superfluous muzzle brake. The ORCA is also loud and of moderate weight. It seems to feature a two-stage trigger, allowing the user to fire just one round or fully-automatic depending on how far you pull the trigger. When fully automatic, it fires at 550 RPM. It also has a detachable bayonet, again, made of an unknown blue material.

The grip is not visible from the outside; the user puts his or her hand through the sleeve of the gun to get to the grip and trigger, which fits snugly. The ORCA is surprisingly easy and comfortable to operate despite its lack of a stock and its outlandish design. We have no idea where it came from, but once we figure out how it works, what it's made of, and how to take it apart, we may produce our own and use the ORCA in our own military.


Can anyone help us out here? Where it might have came from, or opinions on the gun itself? We're still not entirely sure how it works, but we're working 'round the clock to figure it out.
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Postby Solyhniya » Sun Feb 07, 2010 4:40 pm

Well *personally* I suspect that the Orca my have been created by a para-governmental, scientific splinter group. Considering the UAWC basically doesn't have a government, it's understandable how such shady groups could operate undetected.

But ofc, that's just an idea.
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Postby Zinaire » Sun Feb 07, 2010 4:46 pm

Our scientists have traced the weapon to a planet called Wankeron-5. It's made of blue raspberry jello.
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Postby Uawc » Sun Feb 07, 2010 4:50 pm

Solyhniya wrote:Well *personally* I suspect that the Orca my have been created by a para-governmental, scientific splinter group. Considering the UAWC basically doesn't have a government, it's understandable how such shady groups could operate undetected.

But ofc, that's just an idea.


That sounds plausible, except that the materials used to build the Type-0 ORCA are, quite simply, unknown to us.
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Zinaire wrote:Our scientists have traced the weapon to a planet called Wankeron-5. It's made of blue raspberry jello.


Very funny. ;)
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Postby Solyhniya » Sun Feb 07, 2010 4:53 pm

UAWC wrote:
Solyhniya wrote:Well *personally* I suspect that the Orca my have been created by a para-governmental, scientific splinter group. Considering the UAWC basically doesn't have a government, it's understandable how such shady groups could operate undetected.

But ofc, that's just an idea.


That sounds plausible, except that the materials used to build the Type-0 ORCA are, quite simply, unknown to us.


Exactly. This group is beyond the Illuminati; even you don't know who they are.

Hey, y'know if you want to run with this, I think it would make a good RP thread. You could give them a cool, catchy, yet evil sounding name and even link them to terrorism in other countries (mine, for example) in order to draw other nations in.
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Postby Uawc » Sun Feb 07, 2010 4:55 pm

Solyhniya wrote:
UAWC wrote:
Solyhniya wrote:Well *personally* I suspect that the Orca my have been created by a para-governmental, scientific splinter group. Considering the UAWC basically doesn't have a government, it's understandable how such shady groups could operate undetected.

But ofc, that's just an idea.


That sounds plausible, except that the materials used to build the Type-0 ORCA are, quite simply, unknown to us.


Exactly. This group is beyond the Illuminati; even you don't know who they are.

Hey, y'know if you want to run with this, I think it would make a good RP thread. You could give them a cool, catchy, yet evil sounding name and even link them to terrorism in other countries (mine, for example) in order to draw other nations in.


OOC: I was thinking the exact same thing. I think it would also be awesome to make a FPS out of, but I don't have the skills or tech for that.
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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Sun Feb 07, 2010 4:58 pm

UAWC wrote:
UAWC wrote:Recently, a Union farmer was working his crops when he found a huge crop circle. The next day, another, the next day, another, each with brilliant, unearthly patterns. He then noticed that it wasn't just his farms. Soon, everyone got to talking about it, and it became a widely-acknowledged phenomenon here in the Union. One day, however, a farmer found a strange object in the crop circle. It was an unearthly blue, made of unknown materials, and had what looked to be a large knife attached to it.

That object, as UAWC scientists have determined, is a submachine gun of unknown origin. For the purposes of our experiments and learning about the weapon, we call it the ORCA. We're still learning about it, but we were able to get it to work and even reload it. We're still trying to figure out how to take it apart. It fires a .454 caliber round, usually used in revolvers (our own BC-454 fires it). It fires from a detachable, double-stacked, oddly comfortable to hold, side-mounted box magazine of 24 rounds. The magazine features a transparent window into the inside made of an unknown material which lets you see how many rounds are left. Its sight system is a 1.5x scope with night vision capabilities. The ORCA produces surprisingly low recoil for a weapon without a stock, possibly due to its superfluous muzzle brake. The ORCA is also loud and of moderate weight. It seems to feature a two-stage trigger, allowing the user to fire just one round or fully-automatic depending on how far you pull the trigger. When fully automatic, it fires at 550 RPM. It also has a detachable bayonet, again, made of an unknown blue material.

The grip is not visible from the outside; the user puts his or her hand through the sleeve of the gun to get to the grip and trigger, which fits snugly. The ORCA is surprisingly easy and comfortable to operate despite its lack of a stock and its outlandish design. We have no idea where it came from, but once we figure out how it works, what it's made of, and how to take it apart, we may produce our own and use the ORCA in our own military.


Can anyone help us out here? Where it might have came from, or opinions on the gun itself? We're still not entirely sure how it works, but we're working 'round the clock to figure it out.

My guess is it was dropped by a military using weapons that were designed by trained engineers, rather than an average farmer or factory worker like in UAWC.
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Postby L3 Communications » Sun Feb 07, 2010 4:59 pm

The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
UAWC wrote:
UAWC wrote:Recently, a Union farmer was working his crops when he found a huge crop circle. The next day, another, the next day, another, each with brilliant, unearthly patterns. He then noticed that it wasn't just his farms. Soon, everyone got to talking about it, and it became a widely-acknowledged phenomenon here in the Union. One day, however, a farmer found a strange object in the crop circle. It was an unearthly blue, made of unknown materials, and had what looked to be a large knife attached to it.

That object, as UAWC scientists have determined, is a submachine gun of unknown origin. For the purposes of our experiments and learning about the weapon, we call it the ORCA. We're still learning about it, but we were able to get it to work and even reload it. We're still trying to figure out how to take it apart. It fires a .454 caliber round, usually used in revolvers (our own BC-454 fires it). It fires from a detachable, double-stacked, oddly comfortable to hold, side-mounted box magazine of 24 rounds. The magazine features a transparent window into the inside made of an unknown material which lets you see how many rounds are left. Its sight system is a 1.5x scope with night vision capabilities. The ORCA produces surprisingly low recoil for a weapon without a stock, possibly due to its superfluous muzzle brake. The ORCA is also loud and of moderate weight. It seems to feature a two-stage trigger, allowing the user to fire just one round or fully-automatic depending on how far you pull the trigger. When fully automatic, it fires at 550 RPM. It also has a detachable bayonet, again, made of an unknown blue material.

The grip is not visible from the outside; the user puts his or her hand through the sleeve of the gun to get to the grip and trigger, which fits snugly. The ORCA is surprisingly easy and comfortable to operate despite its lack of a stock and its outlandish design. We have no idea where it came from, but once we figure out how it works, what it's made of, and how to take it apart, we may produce our own and use the ORCA in our own military.


Can anyone help us out here? Where it might have came from, or opinions on the gun itself? We're still not entirely sure how it works, but we're working 'round the clock to figure it out.

My guess is it was dropped by a military using weapons that were designed by trained engineers, than an average farmer or factory worker like in UAWC.


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L3 Communications wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
UAWC wrote:
UAWC wrote:Recently, a Union farmer was working his crops when he found a huge crop circle. The next day, another, the next day, another, each with brilliant, unearthly patterns. He then noticed that it wasn't just his farms. Soon, everyone got to talking about it, and it became a widely-acknowledged phenomenon here in the Union. One day, however, a farmer found a strange object in the crop circle. It was an unearthly blue, made of unknown materials, and had what looked to be a large knife attached to it.

That object, as UAWC scientists have determined, is a submachine gun of unknown origin. For the purposes of our experiments and learning about the weapon, we call it the ORCA. We're still learning about it, but we were able to get it to work and even reload it. We're still trying to figure out how to take it apart. It fires a .454 caliber round, usually used in revolvers (our own BC-454 fires it). It fires from a detachable, double-stacked, oddly comfortable to hold, side-mounted box magazine of 24 rounds. The magazine features a transparent window into the inside made of an unknown material which lets you see how many rounds are left. Its sight system is a 1.5x scope with night vision capabilities. The ORCA produces surprisingly low recoil for a weapon without a stock, possibly due to its superfluous muzzle brake. The ORCA is also loud and of moderate weight. It seems to feature a two-stage trigger, allowing the user to fire just one round or fully-automatic depending on how far you pull the trigger. When fully automatic, it fires at 550 RPM. It also has a detachable bayonet, again, made of an unknown blue material.

The grip is not visible from the outside; the user puts his or her hand through the sleeve of the gun to get to the grip and trigger, which fits snugly. The ORCA is surprisingly easy and comfortable to operate despite its lack of a stock and its outlandish design. We have no idea where it came from, but once we figure out how it works, what it's made of, and how to take it apart, we may produce our own and use the ORCA in our own military.


Can anyone help us out here? Where it might have came from, or opinions on the gun itself? We're still not entirely sure how it works, but we're working 'round the clock to figure it out.

My guess is it was dropped by a military using weapons that were designed by trained engineers, than an average farmer or factory worker like in UAWC.


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Postby Byelorussian SSR » Sun Feb 07, 2010 5:04 pm

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Equipped with: Comp M3 red dot sight, S&B Short Dot scope, Colt CAR-15 flash hider, 30rd magazine with Magpul ranger plate, UBR fixed stock, FAB Defense TAL-4 foregrip, UPG-16 pistol grip, folding, rail-mounted bipod, Magpul detachable rail-mounted folding sights, VST front sight mount. Features a side-mounted scope for longer-range targets, although the scope mounts are able to turn, (enabling the scope to be mounted on the side of the firearm) therefore the soldier operating the weapon could swap the red dot to the side and the scope to the top of the firearm with no dificulty, for prolonged long-range use. Most parts coated in flat black finish. Capable of full auto fire at 675rpm.

This rifle was designed to fill the role of a DM rifle with the capability to engage closer-range targets aswell in specific situations. Used by some BSSR troops on missions where enemy engagement includes ranges >550m

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Postby Uawc » Sun Feb 07, 2010 5:08 pm

Byelorussian SSR wrote:Image
Image

Equipped with: Comp M3 red dot sight, S&B Short Dot scope, Colt CAR-15 flash hider, 30rd magazine with Magpul ranger plate, UBR fixed stock, FAB Defense TAL-4 foregrip, UPG-16 pistol grip, folding, rail-mounted bipod, Magpul detachable rail-mounted folding sights, VST front sight mount. Features a side-mounted scope for longer-range targets, although the scope mounts are able to turn, (enabling the scope to be mounted on the side of the firearm) therefore the soldier operating the weapon could swap the red dot to the side and the scope to the top of the firearm with no dificulty, for prolonged long-range use. Most parts coated in flat black finish. Capable of full auto fire at 675rpm.

This rifle was designed to fill the role of a DM rifle with the capability to engage closer-range targets aswell in specific situations. Used by some BSSR troops on missions where enemy engagement includes ranges >550m

Critizism? Comments? Suggestions?


Unnecessary bipod is unnecessary. Also, I think the fire rate is a bit higher than it should be. Beyond that, nice job.
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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Sun Feb 07, 2010 5:08 pm

UAWC wrote:
L3 Communications wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
UAWC wrote:
UAWC wrote:Recently, a Union farmer was working his crops when he found a huge crop circle. The next day, another, the next day, another, each with brilliant, unearthly patterns. He then noticed that it wasn't just his farms. Soon, everyone got to talking about it, and it became a widely-acknowledged phenomenon here in the Union. One day, however, a farmer found a strange object in the crop circle. It was an unearthly blue, made of unknown materials, and had what looked to be a large knife attached to it.

That object, as UAWC scientists have determined, is a submachine gun of unknown origin. For the purposes of our experiments and learning about the weapon, we call it the ORCA. We're still learning about it, but we were able to get it to work and even reload it. We're still trying to figure out how to take it apart. It fires a .454 caliber round, usually used in revolvers (our own BC-454 fires it). It fires from a detachable, double-stacked, oddly comfortable to hold, side-mounted box magazine of 24 rounds. The magazine features a transparent window into the inside made of an unknown material which lets you see how many rounds are left. Its sight system is a 1.5x scope with night vision capabilities. The ORCA produces surprisingly low recoil for a weapon without a stock, possibly due to its superfluous muzzle brake. The ORCA is also loud and of moderate weight. It seems to feature a two-stage trigger, allowing the user to fire just one round or fully-automatic depending on how far you pull the trigger. When fully automatic, it fires at 550 RPM. It also has a detachable bayonet, again, made of an unknown blue material.

The grip is not visible from the outside; the user puts his or her hand through the sleeve of the gun to get to the grip and trigger, which fits snugly. The ORCA is surprisingly easy and comfortable to operate despite its lack of a stock and its outlandish design. We have no idea where it came from, but once we figure out how it works, what it's made of, and how to take it apart, we may produce our own and use the ORCA in our own military.


Can anyone help us out here? Where it might have came from, or opinions on the gun itself? We're still not entirely sure how it works, but we're working 'round the clock to figure it out.

My guess is it was dropped by a military using weapons that were designed by trained engineers, than an average farmer or factory worker like in UAWC.


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IC: If that were true, there would have been a hell of a lot more than just one.

I really doubt that, if you are a group of men that are for some reason in a foreign country, I assume you must be pretty stupid, or oblivious to lose your main weapon especially if it is held in such a way that it is used as though it is part of your arm.
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Postby L3 Communications » Sun Feb 07, 2010 5:14 pm

UAWC wrote:
L3 Communications wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
UAWC wrote:
UAWC wrote:Recently, a Union farmer was working his crops when he found a huge crop circle. The next day, another, the next day, another, each with brilliant, unearthly patterns. He then noticed that it wasn't just his farms. Soon, everyone got to talking about it, and it became a widely-acknowledged phenomenon here in the Union. One day, however, a farmer found a strange object in the crop circle. It was an unearthly blue, made of unknown materials, and had what looked to be a large knife attached to it.

That object, as UAWC scientists have determined, is a submachine gun of unknown origin. For the purposes of our experiments and learning about the weapon, we call it the ORCA. We're still learning about it, but we were able to get it to work and even reload it. We're still trying to figure out how to take it apart. It fires a .454 caliber round, usually used in revolvers (our own BC-454 fires it). It fires from a detachable, double-stacked, oddly comfortable to hold, side-mounted box magazine of 24 rounds. The magazine features a transparent window into the inside made of an unknown material which lets you see how many rounds are left. Its sight system is a 1.5x scope with night vision capabilities. The ORCA produces surprisingly low recoil for a weapon without a stock, possibly due to its superfluous muzzle brake. The ORCA is also loud and of moderate weight. It seems to feature a two-stage trigger, allowing the user to fire just one round or fully-automatic depending on how far you pull the trigger. When fully automatic, it fires at 550 RPM. It also has a detachable bayonet, again, made of an unknown blue material.

The grip is not visible from the outside; the user puts his or her hand through the sleeve of the gun to get to the grip and trigger, which fits snugly. The ORCA is surprisingly easy and comfortable to operate despite its lack of a stock and its outlandish design. We have no idea where it came from, but once we figure out how it works, what it's made of, and how to take it apart, we may produce our own and use the ORCA in our own military.


Can anyone help us out here? Where it might have came from, or opinions on the gun itself? We're still not entirely sure how it works, but we're working 'round the clock to figure it out.

My guess is it was dropped by a military using weapons that were designed by trained engineers, than an average farmer or factory worker like in UAWC.


^ This


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IC: If that were true, there would have been a hell of a lot more than just one.


I'm assuming it just fell out of the helicopter that was flying over your fields.
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Postby Satirius » Sun Feb 07, 2010 5:17 pm

L3 Communications wrote:
UAWC wrote:
L3 Communications wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
UAWC wrote:
UAWC wrote:Recently, a Union farmer was working his crops when he found a huge crop circle. The next day, another, the next day, another, each with brilliant, unearthly patterns. He then noticed that it wasn't just his farms. Soon, everyone got to talking about it, and it became a widely-acknowledged phenomenon here in the Union. One day, however, a farmer found a strange object in the crop circle. It was an unearthly blue, made of unknown materials, and had what looked to be a large knife attached to it.

That object, as UAWC scientists have determined, is a submachine gun of unknown origin. For the purposes of our experiments and learning about the weapon, we call it the ORCA. We're still learning about it, but we were able to get it to work and even reload it. We're still trying to figure out how to take it apart. It fires a .454 caliber round, usually used in revolvers (our own BC-454 fires it). It fires from a detachable, double-stacked, oddly comfortable to hold, side-mounted box magazine of 24 rounds. The magazine features a transparent window into the inside made of an unknown material which lets you see how many rounds are left. Its sight system is a 1.5x scope with night vision capabilities. The ORCA produces surprisingly low recoil for a weapon without a stock, possibly due to its superfluous muzzle brake. The ORCA is also loud and of moderate weight. It seems to feature a two-stage trigger, allowing the user to fire just one round or fully-automatic depending on how far you pull the trigger. When fully automatic, it fires at 550 RPM. It also has a detachable bayonet, again, made of an unknown blue material.

The grip is not visible from the outside; the user puts his or her hand through the sleeve of the gun to get to the grip and trigger, which fits snugly. The ORCA is surprisingly easy and comfortable to operate despite its lack of a stock and its outlandish design. We have no idea where it came from, but once we figure out how it works, what it's made of, and how to take it apart, we may produce our own and use the ORCA in our own military.


Can anyone help us out here? Where it might have came from, or opinions on the gun itself? We're still not entirely sure how it works, but we're working 'round the clock to figure it out.

My guess is it was dropped by a military using weapons that were designed by trained engineers, than an average farmer or factory worker like in UAWC.


^ This


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IC: If that were true, there would have been a hell of a lot more than just one.


I'm assuming it just fell out of the helicopter that was flying over your fields.


Or some black ops group with an incredible sense of humor. Hey, you never know.
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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Sun Feb 07, 2010 5:18 pm

UAWC wrote:
Byelorussian SSR wrote:Image
Image

Equipped with: Comp M3 red dot sight, S&B Short Dot scope, Colt CAR-15 flash hider, 30rd magazine with Magpul ranger plate, UBR fixed stock, FAB Defense TAL-4 foregrip, UPG-16 pistol grip, folding, rail-mounted bipod, Magpul detachable rail-mounted folding sights, VST front sight mount. Features a side-mounted scope for longer-range targets, although the scope mounts are able to turn, (enabling the scope to be mounted on the side of the firearm) therefore the soldier operating the weapon could swap the red dot to the side and the scope to the top of the firearm with no dificulty, for prolonged long-range use. Most parts coated in flat black finish. Capable of full auto fire at 675rpm.

This rifle was designed to fill the role of a DM rifle with the capability to engage closer-range targets aswell in specific situations. Used by some BSSR troops on missions where enemy engagement includes ranges >550m

Critizism? Comments? Suggestions?


Unnecessary bipod is unnecessary. Also, I think the fire rate is a bit higher than it should be. Beyond that, nice job.

It is a DM (designated marksman (a sniper used at slightly shorter ranges)) rifle, why doesn't it need a bipod? Saying a bipod on a DM rifle is unnecessary is like saying a bipod on a sniper rifle is unnecessary.
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Postby Uawc » Sun Feb 07, 2010 5:29 pm

The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
UAWC wrote:
Byelorussian SSR wrote:Image
Image

Equipped with: Comp M3 red dot sight, S&B Short Dot scope, Colt CAR-15 flash hider, 30rd magazine with Magpul ranger plate, UBR fixed stock, FAB Defense TAL-4 foregrip, UPG-16 pistol grip, folding, rail-mounted bipod, Magpul detachable rail-mounted folding sights, VST front sight mount. Features a side-mounted scope for longer-range targets, although the scope mounts are able to turn, (enabling the scope to be mounted on the side of the firearm) therefore the soldier operating the weapon could swap the red dot to the side and the scope to the top of the firearm with no dificulty, for prolonged long-range use. Most parts coated in flat black finish. Capable of full auto fire at 675rpm.

This rifle was designed to fill the role of a DM rifle with the capability to engage closer-range targets aswell in specific situations. Used by some BSSR troops on missions where enemy engagement includes ranges >550m

Critizism? Comments? Suggestions?


Unnecessary bipod is unnecessary. Also, I think the fire rate is a bit higher than it should be. Beyond that, nice job.

It is a DM (designated marksman (a sniper used at slightly shorter ranges)) rifle, why doesn't it need a bipod? Saying a bipod on a DM rifle is unnecessary is like saying a bipod on a sniper rifle is unnecessary.


They're not the same thing, though if he really wants the bipod...
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Postby L3 Communications » Sun Feb 07, 2010 5:29 pm

Satirius wrote:
L3 Communications wrote:
UAWC wrote:[spoiler]
L3 Communications wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
UAWC wrote:
UAWC wrote:Recently, a Union farmer was working his crops when he found a huge crop circle. The next day, another, the next day, another, each with brilliant, unearthly patterns. He then noticed that it wasn't just his farms. Soon, everyone got to talking about it, and it became a widely-acknowledged phenomenon here in the Union. One day, however, a farmer found a strange object in the crop circle. It was an unearthly blue, made of unknown materials, and had what looked to be a large knife attached to it.

That object, as UAWC scientists have determined, is a submachine gun of unknown origin. For the purposes of our experiments and learning about the weapon, we call it the ORCA. We're still learning about it, but we were able to get it to work and even reload it. We're still trying to figure out how to take it apart. It fires a .454 caliber round, usually used in revolvers (our own BC-454 fires it). It fires from a detachable, double-stacked, oddly comfortable to hold, side-mounted box magazine of 24 rounds. The magazine features a transparent window into the inside made of an unknown material which lets you see how many rounds are left. Its sight system is a 1.5x scope with night vision capabilities. The ORCA produces surprisingly low recoil for a weapon without a stock, possibly due to its superfluous muzzle brake. The ORCA is also loud and of moderate weight. It seems to feature a two-stage trigger, allowing the user to fire just one round or fully-automatic depending on how far you pull the trigger. When fully automatic, it fires at 550 RPM. It also has a detachable bayonet, again, made of an unknown blue material.

The grip is not visible from the outside; the user puts his or her hand through the sleeve of the gun to get to the grip and trigger, which fits snugly. The ORCA is surprisingly easy and comfortable to operate despite its lack of a stock and its outlandish design. We have no idea where it came from, but once we figure out how it works, what it's made of, and how to take it apart, we may produce our own and use the ORCA in our own military.


Can anyone help us out here? Where it might have came from, or opinions on the gun itself? We're still not entirely sure how it works, but we're working 'round the clock to figure it out.

My guess is it was dropped by a military using weapons that were designed by trained engineers, than an average farmer or factory worker like in UAWC.


^ This


OOC: You guys are trolls.

IC: If that were true, there would have been a hell of a lot more than just one.


I'm assuming it just fell out of the helicopter that was flying over your fields.
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Postby Uawc » Sun Feb 07, 2010 5:30 pm

L3 Communications wrote:
UAWC wrote:
L3 Communications wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
UAWC wrote:
UAWC wrote:Recently, a Union farmer was working his crops when he found a huge crop circle. The next day, another, the next day, another, each with brilliant, unearthly patterns. He then noticed that it wasn't just his farms. Soon, everyone got to talking about it, and it became a widely-acknowledged phenomenon here in the Union. One day, however, a farmer found a strange object in the crop circle. It was an unearthly blue, made of unknown materials, and had what looked to be a large knife attached to it.

That object, as UAWC scientists have determined, is a submachine gun of unknown origin. For the purposes of our experiments and learning about the weapon, we call it the ORCA. We're still learning about it, but we were able to get it to work and even reload it. We're still trying to figure out how to take it apart. It fires a .454 caliber round, usually used in revolvers (our own BC-454 fires it). It fires from a detachable, double-stacked, oddly comfortable to hold, side-mounted box magazine of 24 rounds. The magazine features a transparent window into the inside made of an unknown material which lets you see how many rounds are left. Its sight system is a 1.5x scope with night vision capabilities. The ORCA produces surprisingly low recoil for a weapon without a stock, possibly due to its superfluous muzzle brake. The ORCA is also loud and of moderate weight. It seems to feature a two-stage trigger, allowing the user to fire just one round or fully-automatic depending on how far you pull the trigger. When fully automatic, it fires at 550 RPM. It also has a detachable bayonet, again, made of an unknown blue material.

The grip is not visible from the outside; the user puts his or her hand through the sleeve of the gun to get to the grip and trigger, which fits snugly. The ORCA is surprisingly easy and comfortable to operate despite its lack of a stock and its outlandish design. We have no idea where it came from, but once we figure out how it works, what it's made of, and how to take it apart, we may produce our own and use the ORCA in our own military.


Can anyone help us out here? Where it might have came from, or opinions on the gun itself? We're still not entirely sure how it works, but we're working 'round the clock to figure it out.

My guess is it was dropped by a military using weapons that were designed by trained engineers, than an average farmer or factory worker like in UAWC.


^ This


OOC: You guys are trolls.

IC: If that were true, there would have been a hell of a lot more than just one.


I'm assuming it just fell out of the helicopter that was flying over your fields.


While that makes some sort of sense, that still doesn't explain the materials used to make the thing. It's unreal. :meh:
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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Sun Feb 07, 2010 5:33 pm

UAWC wrote:
L3 Communications wrote:
UAWC wrote:
L3 Communications wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
UAWC wrote:
UAWC wrote:Recently, a Union farmer was working his crops when he found a huge crop circle. The next day, another, the next day, another, each with brilliant, unearthly patterns. He then noticed that it wasn't just his farms. Soon, everyone got to talking about it, and it became a widely-acknowledged phenomenon here in the Union. One day, however, a farmer found a strange object in the crop circle. It was an unearthly blue, made of unknown materials, and had what looked to be a large knife attached to it.

That object, as UAWC scientists have determined, is a submachine gun of unknown origin. For the purposes of our experiments and learning about the weapon, we call it the ORCA. We're still learning about it, but we were able to get it to work and even reload it. We're still trying to figure out how to take it apart. It fires a .454 caliber round, usually used in revolvers (our own BC-454 fires it). It fires from a detachable, double-stacked, oddly comfortable to hold, side-mounted box magazine of 24 rounds. The magazine features a transparent window into the inside made of an unknown material which lets you see how many rounds are left. Its sight system is a 1.5x scope with night vision capabilities. The ORCA produces surprisingly low recoil for a weapon without a stock, possibly due to its superfluous muzzle brake. The ORCA is also loud and of moderate weight. It seems to feature a two-stage trigger, allowing the user to fire just one round or fully-automatic depending on how far you pull the trigger. When fully automatic, it fires at 550 RPM. It also has a detachable bayonet, again, made of an unknown blue material.

The grip is not visible from the outside; the user puts his or her hand through the sleeve of the gun to get to the grip and trigger, which fits snugly. The ORCA is surprisingly easy and comfortable to operate despite its lack of a stock and its outlandish design. We have no idea where it came from, but once we figure out how it works, what it's made of, and how to take it apart, we may produce our own and use the ORCA in our own military.


Can anyone help us out here? Where it might have came from, or opinions on the gun itself? We're still not entirely sure how it works, but we're working 'round the clock to figure it out.

My guess is it was dropped by a military using weapons that were designed by trained engineers, than an average farmer or factory worker like in UAWC.


^ This


OOC: You guys are trolls.

IC: If that were true, there would have been a hell of a lot more than just one.


I'm assuming it just fell out of the helicopter that was flying over your fields.


While that makes some sort of sense, that still doesn't explain the materials used to make the thing. It's unreal. :meh:

They are called composites something most of your guns probably wouldn't have since most people don't have large amounts of high-performance polyethylene, or ceramics to make the weapons they design lighter. Most other countries will, and definitely should if their gun is to be held out on the end of their arm, like the gun you found.
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Postby Byelorussian SSR » Sun Feb 07, 2010 5:33 pm

UAWC wrote:
Byelorussian SSR wrote:Image
Image

Equipped with: Comp M3 red dot sight, S&B Short Dot scope, Colt CAR-15 flash hider, 30rd magazine with Magpul ranger plate, UBR fixed stock, FAB Defense TAL-4 foregrip, UPG-16 pistol grip, folding, rail-mounted bipod, Magpul detachable rail-mounted folding sights, VST front sight mount. Features a side-mounted scope for longer-range targets, although the scope mounts are able to turn, (enabling the scope to be mounted on the side of the firearm) therefore the soldier operating the weapon could swap the red dot to the side and the scope to the top of the firearm with no dificulty, for prolonged long-range use. Most parts coated in flat black finish. Capable of full auto fire at 675rpm.

This rifle was designed to fill the role of a DM rifle with the capability to engage closer-range targets aswell in specific situations. Used by some BSSR troops on missions where enemy engagement includes ranges >550m

Critizism? Comments? Suggestions?

Unnecessary bipod is unnecessary. Also, I think the fire rate is a bit higher than it should be. Beyond that, nice job.


I thought DM Rifles had bipods? (Honestly not sure, this is my first attempt at a DM)
Also, I based the fire rate on several battle rifles that can be/are turned into DM rifles (FN FAL - 650rpm, M14 - 750rpm, Mk. 14 EBR - 750rpm)
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Postby Indeos » Sun Feb 07, 2010 5:37 pm

The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
UAWC wrote:
L3 Communications wrote:
UAWC wrote:
L3 Communications wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
UAWC wrote:
UAWC wrote:Recently, a Union farmer was working his crops when he found a huge crop circle. The next day, another, the next day, another, each with brilliant, unearthly patterns. He then noticed that it wasn't just his farms. Soon, everyone got to talking about it, and it became a widely-acknowledged phenomenon here in the Union. One day, however, a farmer found a strange object in the crop circle. It was an unearthly blue, made of unknown materials, and had what looked to be a large knife attached to it.

That object, as UAWC scientists have determined, is a submachine gun of unknown origin. For the purposes of our experiments and learning about the weapon, we call it the ORCA. We're still learning about it, but we were able to get it to work and even reload it. We're still trying to figure out how to take it apart. It fires a .454 caliber round, usually used in revolvers (our own BC-454 fires it). It fires from a detachable, double-stacked, oddly comfortable to hold, side-mounted box magazine of 24 rounds. The magazine features a transparent window into the inside made of an unknown material which lets you see how many rounds are left. Its sight system is a 1.5x scope with night vision capabilities. The ORCA produces surprisingly low recoil for a weapon without a stock, possibly due to its superfluous muzzle brake. The ORCA is also loud and of moderate weight. It seems to feature a two-stage trigger, allowing the user to fire just one round or fully-automatic depending on how far you pull the trigger. When fully automatic, it fires at 550 RPM. It also has a detachable bayonet, again, made of an unknown blue material.

The grip is not visible from the outside; the user puts his or her hand through the sleeve of the gun to get to the grip and trigger, which fits snugly. The ORCA is surprisingly easy and comfortable to operate despite its lack of a stock and its outlandish design. We have no idea where it came from, but once we figure out how it works, what it's made of, and how to take it apart, we may produce our own and use the ORCA in our own military.


Can anyone help us out here? Where it might have came from, or opinions on the gun itself? We're still not entirely sure how it works, but we're working 'round the clock to figure it out.

My guess is it was dropped by a military using weapons that were designed by trained engineers, than an average farmer or factory worker like in UAWC.


^ This


OOC: You guys are trolls.

IC: If that were true, there would have been a hell of a lot more than just one.


I'm assuming it just fell out of the helicopter that was flying over your fields.


While that makes some sort of sense, that still doesn't explain the materials used to make the thing. It's unreal. :meh:

They are called composites something most of your guns probably wouldn't have since most people don't have large amounts of high-performance polyethylene, or ceramics to make the weapons they design lighter. Most other countries will, and definitely should if their gun is to be held out on the end of their arm, like the gun you found.


Ok, since no one else has, I suggest everyone stops arguing with UAWC. Prior experience(as Psybris, before I got deleted) says that you can't convince him his weapons don't work/wouldn't be worth fixing.
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