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Postby Solyhniya » Sat Feb 06, 2010 3:37 pm

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The SZ-R55 is a 7.62x55-Ranger caliber battle rifle. It's size and weight mean that it is only really practical in outdoor confrontations.
However, in such situations, it is unbeatable for its combination of range, accuracy, firepower and fire rate. The SZ-R55 can also be fitted with a drum magazine and its bipod can be fixed into the ground to make an effective machine gun. Otherwise, it can be fired in full auto (or more likely, semi-auto) and is usually used with a scope. It is seen here equipped with a sound suppressor and a 40 round magazine. 20 round magazines are not uncommon, nor are the aforementioned drum-mags (normally of 75 round capacity).

It is used primarily - but not solely - by the Solyhniyan "Рейнджер" (ranger) platoons. Unlike US rangers, Solyhniyan rangers are an elite corps specialising in recon, pathfinding and open warfare. They are rumoured to utilise the "thermite" rounds purportedly created by Sichovi Zavody in the '90s. These rounds sacrifice a little weight and a full metal jacked for an amount of unreacted thermite, designed to activate upon the collapse of the bullet's structure, thereby causing massive tissue and material damage. The government refuses to comment on the existence of the 7.62-Thermite.
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Postby Ostronopolis » Sat Feb 06, 2010 3:38 pm

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Postby Uawc » Sat Feb 06, 2010 3:54 pm

Solyhniya wrote:Image (External link)
The SZ-R55 is a 7.62x55-Ranger caliber battle rifle. It's size and weight mean that it is only really practical in outdoor confrontations.
However, in such situations, it is unbeatable for its combination of range, accuracy, firepower and fire rate. The SZ-R55 can also be fitted with a drum magazine and its bipod can be fixed into the ground to make an effective machine gun. Otherwise, it can be fired in full auto (or more likely, semi-auto) and is usually used with a scope. It is seen here equipped with a sound suppressor and a 40 round magazine. 20 round magazines are not uncommon, nor are the aforementioned drum-mags (normally of 75 round capacity).

It is used primarily - but not solely - by the Solyhniyan "Рейнджер" (ranger) platoons. Unlike US rangers, Solyhniyan rangers are an elite corps specialising in recon, pathfinding and open warfare. They are rumoured to utilise the "thermite" rounds purportedly created by Sichovi Zavody in the '90s. These rounds sacrifice a little weight and a full metal jacked for an amount of unreacted thermite, designed to activate upon the collapse of the bullet's structure, thereby causing massive tissue and material damage. The government refuses to comment on the existence of the 7.62-Thermite.


Looking good. You mentioned fire rate, what exactly is the fire rate? Also, where's the rear iron sight?

Keep in mind that the higher the rate of fire is, the more recoil you'll have to deal with. High RPM also often means lower accuracy.
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Postby Satirius » Sat Feb 06, 2010 4:16 pm

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Assault Rifle, Model 5, Initial Revision (AR5)

Chambered in 6.75mm Rush rounds. To keep the profile down, the only thing above the barrel is the gas tube. Shells are ejected forward in the lower tube.

EDIT: OOC: Will fix flash hider later.
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Postby Solyhniya » Sat Feb 06, 2010 5:23 pm

UAWC wrote:
Solyhniya wrote:Image (External link)
The SZ-R55 is a 7.62x55-Ranger caliber battle rifle. It's size and weight mean that it is only really practical in outdoor confrontations.
However, in such situations, it is unbeatable for its combination of range, accuracy, firepower and fire rate. The SZ-R55 can also be fitted with a drum magazine and its bipod can be fixed into the ground to make an effective machine gun. Otherwise, it can be fired in full auto (or more likely, semi-auto) and is usually used with a scope. It is seen here equipped with a sound suppressor and a 40 round magazine. 20 round magazines are not uncommon, nor are the aforementioned drum-mags (normally of 75 round capacity).

It is used primarily - but not solely - by the Solyhniyan "Рейнджер" (ranger) platoons. Unlike US rangers, Solyhniyan rangers are an elite corps specialising in recon, pathfinding and open warfare. They are rumoured to utilise the "thermite" rounds purportedly created by Sichovi Zavody in the '90s. These rounds sacrifice a little weight and a full metal jacked for an amount of unreacted thermite, designed to activate upon the collapse of the bullet's structure, thereby causing massive tissue and material damage. The government refuses to comment on the existence of the 7.62-Thermite.


Looking good. You mentioned fire rate, what exactly is the fire rate? Also, where's the rear iron sight?

Keep in mind that the higher the rate of fire is, the more recoil you'll have to deal with. High RPM also often means lower accuracy.


tbh, I've not got round to post technicalities yet. I was hoping for some kind of adjustable fire rate, though I'm not exactly sure how that would work.

As for iron sights, they're slid under the scope (though I probably should have mentioned that!)
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Postby Uawc » Sat Feb 06, 2010 5:37 pm

Solyhniya wrote:
UAWC wrote:
Solyhniya wrote:Image (External link)
The SZ-R55 is a 7.62x55-Ranger caliber battle rifle. It's size and weight mean that it is only really practical in outdoor confrontations.
However, in such situations, it is unbeatable for its combination of range, accuracy, firepower and fire rate. The SZ-R55 can also be fitted with a drum magazine and its bipod can be fixed into the ground to make an effective machine gun. Otherwise, it can be fired in full auto (or more likely, semi-auto) and is usually used with a scope. It is seen here equipped with a sound suppressor and a 40 round magazine. 20 round magazines are not uncommon, nor are the aforementioned drum-mags (normally of 75 round capacity).

It is used primarily - but not solely - by the Solyhniyan "Рейнджер" (ranger) platoons. Unlike US rangers, Solyhniyan rangers are an elite corps specialising in recon, pathfinding and open warfare. They are rumoured to utilise the "thermite" rounds purportedly created by Sichovi Zavody in the '90s. These rounds sacrifice a little weight and a full metal jacked for an amount of unreacted thermite, designed to activate upon the collapse of the bullet's structure, thereby causing massive tissue and material damage. The government refuses to comment on the existence of the 7.62-Thermite.


Looking good. You mentioned fire rate, what exactly is the fire rate? Also, where's the rear iron sight?

Keep in mind that the higher the rate of fire is, the more recoil you'll have to deal with. High RPM also often means lower accuracy.


tbh, I've not got round to post technicalities yet. I was hoping for some kind of adjustable fire rate, though I'm not exactly sure how that would work.

As for iron sights, they're slid under the scope (though I probably should have mentioned that!)


I think the most adjustable fire rate you can realistically do is having an option for burst fire.
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Postby Solyhniya » Sun Feb 07, 2010 8:48 am

I think the most adjustable fire rate you can realistically do is having an option for burst fire.


Agreed.
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Postby Uawc » Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:18 am

Solyhniya wrote:
I think the most adjustable fire rate you can realistically do is having an option for burst fire.


Agreed.


Burst fire is good anyway, one pull of the trigger should be able to take out your target.
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Postby Arritus » Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:19 am

Not neccessarily. Fire rate can be adjusted by adjusting the gas parts, if I'm not mistaken. The less open that the gas cylinder is, the slower the weapon will cycle.

I wouldn't advise full auto at all though, unless the gun weighs a very great deal, not with that calibre.

The gun looks good except that the sight is behind the rail and the magazine is a bit far forward. Have you scaled the magazine up enough? To hold 40 of those rounds it needs to be a bit wider than the FAL/SCAR-H mag and twice as long.

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Postby Uawc » Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:31 am

Arritus wrote:Not neccessarily. Fire rate can be adjusted by adjusting the gas parts, if I'm not mistaken. The less open that the gas cylinder is, the slower the weapon will cycle.

I wouldn't advise full auto at all though, unless the gun weighs a very great deal, not with that calibre.

The gun looks good except that the sight is behind the rail and the magazine is a bit far forward. Have you scaled the magazine up enough? To hold 40 of those rounds it needs to be a bit wider than the FAL/SCAR-H mag and twice as long.


That, and the magazine will be very heavy.
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Postby Neo Cairo » Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:31 am

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Brotherhood of Nod, Neo Cairo Chapter, standard laser rifle.

Effective Range: 2000m+
Magazine Size: N/A; 30 seconds of prolonged firing or 50 separate shots before recharge required
Fire Rate: holding the trigger produced a steady energy beam

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Postby Arritus » Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:35 am

Satirius wrote:Image
Assault Rifle, Model 5, Initial Revision (AR5)

Chambered in 6.75mm Rush rounds. To keep the profile down, the only thing above the barrel is the gas tube. Shells are ejected forward in the lower tube.

EDIT: OOC: Will fix flash hider later.


Looks similar to the rifle I posted yesterday (well, a bullpup with minimised profile). My design had the gas parts beside the barrel so achieved an even lower profile. It looks to me like you neen to raise the iron sights a bit or they will be too low to look down, though I could be wrong. My advice to test it woulld be to put an acog sight on the model, and see if the extended iron sights are at the same hight.

I decided not to go with forwar ejection, but I experimented a bit. I'd put the ejection tube beside the barrel too, as with gas parts and the ejection tube, this gun will have a greater profile than most bullpups. Also the ejection tube looks too skinny to fit cartrages through.

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Postby KenKenpachi » Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:41 am

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Brotherhood of Nod, Neo Cairo Chapter, standard laser rifle.

Effective Range: 2000m+
Magazine Size: N/A; 30 seconds of prolonged firing or 50 separate shots before recharge required
Fire Rate: holding the trigger produced a steady energy beam

Hmm thats pretty nice, and if its based on the NOD one its not really a laser its more like a Plasma Slug rifle, so if anyone points out the flaws in a laser weapon, just run with that.
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Postby Uawc » Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:53 am

Recently, a Union farmer was working his crops when he found a huge crop circle. The next day, another, the next day, another, each with brilliant, unearthly patterns. He then noticed that it wasn't just his farms. Soon, everyone got to talking about it, and it became a widely-acknowledged phenomenon here in the Union. One day, however, a farmer found a strange object in the crop circle. It was an unearthly blue, made of unknown materials, and had what looked to be a large knife attached to it.

That object, as UAWC scientists have determined, is a submachine gun of unknown origin. For the purposes of our experiments and learning about the weapon, we call it the ORCA. We're still learning about it, but we were able to get it to work and even reload it. We're still trying to figure out how to take it apart. It fires a .454 caliber round, usually used in revolvers (our own BC-454 fires it). It fires from a detachable, double-stacked, oddly comfortable to hold, side-mounted box magazine of 24 rounds. The magazine features a transparent window into the inside made of an unknown material which lets you see how many rounds are left. Its sight system is a 1.5x scope with night vision capabilities. The ORCA produces surprisingly low recoil for a weapon without a stock, possibly due to its superfluous muzzle brake. The ORCA is also loud and of moderate weight. It seems to feature a two-stage trigger, allowing the user to fire just one round or fully-automatic depending on how far you pull the trigger. When fully automatic, it fires at 550 RPM. It also has a detachable bayonet, again, made of an unknown blue material.

The grip is not visible from the outside; the user puts his or her hand through the sleeve of the gun to get to the grip and trigger, which fits snugly. The ORCA is surprisingly easy and comfortable to operate despite its lack of a stock and its outlandish design. We have no idea where it came from, but once we figure out how it works, what it's made of, and how to take it apart, we may produce our own and use the ORCA in our own military.
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Our main infantry rifle is the C7 a2.

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Postby Neo Cairo » Sun Feb 07, 2010 10:03 am

KenKenpachi wrote:
Neo Cairo wrote:Image
Brotherhood of Nod, Neo Cairo Chapter, standard laser rifle.

Effective Range: 2000m+
Magazine Size: N/A; 30 seconds of prolonged firing or 50 separate shots before recharge required
Fire Rate: holding the trigger produced a steady energy beam

Hmm thats pretty nice, and if its based on the NOD one its not really a laser its more like a Plasma Slug rifle, so if anyone points out the flaws in a laser weapon, just run with that.


Not true, it uses a beam of light focused through a crystal and powered through a fuel cell and therefore is a laser weapon. Additionally, most of the rifle is solid state meaning that it is reliable and has a lifetime expected to be at least 40 years. The only problem that has occured to us through the laser program is overheating. For example, whilst technically, one could fire this weapon flat out for thirty seconds, we would not recommend it. It may or may not cause damage to the barrel and would have to be left to cool (as cooling through any other method may produce a sort of aurora effect, thereby permanently warping the barrel).

@Solyhniya: Decent rifle. The idea overall reminds me of the German FG42.
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Postby Solyhniya » Sun Feb 07, 2010 10:13 am

Neo Cairo wrote:Image
Brotherhood of Nod, Neo Cairo Chapter, standard laser rifle.

Effective Range: 2000m+
Magazine Size: N/A; 30 seconds of prolonged firing or 50 separate shots before recharge required
Fire Rate: holding the trigger produced a steady energy beam


Is this weapon for sale at all?
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Postby KenKenpachi » Sun Feb 07, 2010 10:14 am

Hmm, I could have sworn it was a slug based weapon, but thats going off those techs in the mansion from renagade, but that might have been that Gattling lasergun, ah well, still a nice weapon.
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UAWC wrote:Recently, a Union farmer was working his crops when he found a huge crop circle. The next day, another, the next day, another, each with brilliant, unearthly patterns. He then noticed that it wasn't just his farms. Soon, everyone got to talking about it, and it became a widely-acknowledged phenomenon here in the Union. One day, however, a farmer found a strange object in the crop circle. It was an unearthly blue, made of unknown materials, and had what looked to be a large knife attached to it.

That object, as UAWC scientists have determined, is a submachine gun of unknown origin. For the purposes of our experiments and learning about the weapon, we call it the ORCA. We're still learning about it, but we were able to get it to work and even reload it. We're still trying to figure out how to take it apart. It fires a .454 caliber round, usually used in revolvers (our own BC-454 fires it). It fires from a detachable, double-stacked, oddly comfortable to hold, side-mounted box magazine of 24 rounds. The magazine features a transparent window into the inside made of an unknown material which lets you see how many rounds are left. Its sight system is a 1.5x scope with night vision capabilities. The ORCA produces surprisingly low recoil for a weapon without a stock, possibly due to its superfluous muzzle brake. The ORCA is also loud and of moderate weight. It seems to feature a two-stage trigger, allowing the user to fire just one round or fully-automatic depending on how far you pull the trigger. When fully automatic, it fires at 550 RPM. It also has a detachable bayonet, again, made of an unknown blue material.

The grip is not visible from the outside; the user puts his or her hand through the sleeve of the gun to get to the grip and trigger, which fits snugly. The ORCA is surprisingly easy and comfortable to operate despite its lack of a stock and its outlandish design. We have no idea where it came from, but once we figure out how it works, what it's made of, and how to take it apart, we may produce our own and use the ORCA in our own military.

I think the moment that you start claiming your guns were designed by aliens is the point where most MT and PMT players will stop RPing with you. On that not, an Ularn warfleet will shortly be en-route to colonise your country. Or perhaps we'll just bombard it from orbit.
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Postby Solyhniya » Sun Feb 07, 2010 10:31 am

The Ularn wrote:
UAWC wrote:Recently, a Union farmer was working his crops when he found a huge crop circle. The next day, another, the next day, another, each with brilliant, unearthly patterns. He then noticed that it wasn't just his farms. Soon, everyone got to talking about it, and it became a widely-acknowledged phenomenon here in the Union. One day, however, a farmer found a strange object in the crop circle. It was an unearthly blue, made of unknown materials, and had what looked to be a large knife attached to it.

That object, as UAWC scientists have determined, is a submachine gun of unknown origin. For the purposes of our experiments and learning about the weapon, we call it the ORCA. We're still learning about it, but we were able to get it to work and even reload it. We're still trying to figure out how to take it apart. It fires a .454 caliber round, usually used in revolvers (our own BC-454 fires it). It fires from a detachable, double-stacked, oddly comfortable to hold, side-mounted box magazine of 24 rounds. The magazine features a transparent window into the inside made of an unknown material which lets you see how many rounds are left. Its sight system is a 1.5x scope with night vision capabilities. The ORCA produces surprisingly low recoil for a weapon without a stock, possibly due to its superfluous muzzle brake. The ORCA is also loud and of moderate weight. It seems to feature a two-stage trigger, allowing the user to fire just one round or fully-automatic depending on how far you pull the trigger. When fully automatic, it fires at 550 RPM. It also has a detachable bayonet, again, made of an unknown blue material.

The grip is not visible from the outside; the user puts his or her hand through the sleeve of the gun to get to the grip and trigger, which fits snugly. The ORCA is surprisingly easy and comfortable to operate despite its lack of a stock and its outlandish design. We have no idea where it came from, but once we figure out how it works, what it's made of, and how to take it apart, we may produce our own and use the ORCA in our own military.

I think the moment that you start claiming your guns were designed by aliens is the point where most MT and PMT players will stop RPing with you. On that not, an Ularn warfleet will shortly be en-route to colonise your country. Or perhaps we'll just bombard it from orbit.


How do you know that the Solyhniyan Intelligence Bureau didn't plant it there :blink:
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Postby Uawc » Sun Feb 07, 2010 10:32 am

Look, all we know is that a farmer found it in a crop circle. We've been investigating but that's where the tracks stop. It's either aliens or a Union citizen with a strange sense of humor. It could have been a Union citizen because the gun fires .454, but...then again, we've never seen these materials before.

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Postby Lord Tothe » Sun Feb 07, 2010 10:46 am

I know there have been a lot of arguments about AK47/AKM/AK74/M16 already, but what about other carbine-type rifles? The US WW2 M1 carbine was a decent little rifle, although some versions were only semi-auto. It's less powerful than 7.62x39, but I've heard that in some ballistic gelatin tests it has shown similar penetration and of course a larger hole with modern bullets when compared to the modern 5.56.

The SKS is rather outdated in design, but it is impressively accurate with 7.62x39. It'll shoot well enough to take a deer within about 300 rads. It is generally semi-auto only, so it's not as suitable for volume fire, but it's a solid argument against the alleged inherent inaccuracy of the round it shoots. I know I've fired AKM-type rifles (also only semi :() that were incapable of a 3" group at 25 yards, but I would blame the rifle having a shot-out barrel. I don't like the idea of being limited to varmint rounds like the US 5.56 or the Russian 5.45. I have heard of some groups experimenting with building 5.45 uppers for the AR-type rifles, though, due to the current expense of feeding a 5.56 with current ammo prices. What think you of that idea?
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the Derbaran Military's Standard issue weapon is the K2:
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Postby Bafuria » Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:05 am

This is the Elding U2 SMG "Can Gun"

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It's a .45 caliber submachine gun designed to be easy to manufacture during a total war and simple to use. Similar to the British Sten-gun and the American M3A1.
But although it's made of scrap metal, it became quite popular among Bafurian soldiers and police officers and today it is widely used in Bafuria.
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Postby Verlorenen » Sun Feb 07, 2010 12:20 pm

I'm not going to use PimpMyGun, I'm not going to use PimpMyGun, I'm not going to use PimpMyGun...

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Dammit!
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A robust, simple and reliable weapon, the Verloreni Mk10 Service Rifle is a bolt-action weapon chambered in 5.56x45mm NATO. Utilizing a smooth and fast "Mauser"-style bolt operation with three locking lugs and a heavy barrel, it can deliver withering volumes of accurate fire even from untrained hands. The iron sights are notched with a sliding selector to fire at 100, 200, 300, 400 and 500m intervals.

A folding foregrip allows for ergonomic and effective firing per the user's preference. The trigger guard is purposely wide to accomodate gloved fingers and the rubberized semi-pistol grip allows for firm control of the weapon even in stressful situations.

Twenty-round detachable box magazines are currently the most popular for balance of size and rounds, however more unwieldy thirty-round magazines are available for extended periods of combat without reloading. Single rounds can be loaded in emergencies where magazines are damaged or unavailiable. The weapon has proven itself reliable in torture tests and will still continue to fire with serious damage to the reciever in most cases, as well as while submerged under water. A carbine version, with a folding "skeleton" stock and shorter 10 inch barrel, is available. A detachable bayonet is issued to all troops for close-quarters fighting and can be affixed to the barrel using the lugs provided. A detachable flash hider is also available and can be used for night operations.

Calibre: 5.56x45mm NATO
Length: 946mm (37.24 in)
Weight:2.9 kg (6.70 lbs)
Barrel: 508mm (20in) 6 grooves, right hand.
Feed / Magazine Capacity: 20 round detachable box magazine.
Operation: Manually-Operated Bolt Action
Muzzle Velocity: 1000 metres/second (3280 feet/second)
Effective Range: 500m (1640ft) plus

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