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Postby Uawc » Sat Feb 06, 2010 12:00 pm

Alahastra wrote:As if the thread hasn't been derailed already. But to put the thread back on topic:

The standard issue small arms of Alahastra contain almost no variety, are quite outdated, but in the hands of a skilled soldier, are quite lethal.
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I have to ask, why is there a flash hider on the gas tube?
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Postby Alahastra » Sat Feb 06, 2010 12:01 pm

As I've said, I have no experience with firearms whatsoever. I put it there simply because it looked better. Just pretend its not a flash hider, but a decorative part of some sorts.
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Postby Uawc » Sat Feb 06, 2010 12:04 pm

Alahastra wrote:As I've said, I have no experience with firearms whatsoever. I put it there simply because it looked better. Just pretend its not a flash hider, but a decorative part of some sorts.


End of the gas block sounds plausible.
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Postby Crowlark » Sat Feb 06, 2010 12:05 pm

this badboy: Image

no, not really; but we are not going to tell non-allies our techniques, weapons, etc.

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Postby United Nukia » Sat Feb 06, 2010 12:13 pm

AK-47s of course.

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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Sat Feb 06, 2010 12:13 pm

UAWC wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
UAWC wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
UAWC wrote:
Altamirus wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
UAWC wrote:The UAWC has developed a vastly improved version of its AURA assault rifle.

The AURA-7 assault rifle is designed as a modernized AK-47, with a stock that can both collapse and fold, a comfy grip, a 30-round magazine which lets you have an idea of how much ammo you've got left, an excellent muzzle brake, more customizability, and much, much better sights. The AURA-7 is also lighter, being made with more polymers instead of wood. The AURA-7 also features an easy, quiet selector switch for semi-auto, three-round bursts, and fully automatic. The AURA-7 fires at 600 RPM when fully automatic and is just as reliable as its grandfather rifle. Its standard cartridge is 7.62x39mmC, which combines the best aspects of 7.62x39mm and 5.45x39mm into one round, giving it both the ability to laugh at body armor and tumble upon impact, and in close ranges it may sometimes fragment. However, one of the biggest differences between the AURA-7 and the original AURA is that the AURA-7 comes with a kit which lets you easily rechamber the rifle to fire 5.45x39mm, 5.8x42mm Chinese, and even 5.56x45mm. This makes the AURA-7 very versatile, and it will become a staple for the UAWC armed forces.

First off, get rid of the cut away magazine, it will hurt your men far more than it will ever help them, use translucent magazines if you want your men to know hoe much ammo they have. Also making a gun that can convert to 3 different rounds that do the same jobs is entirely useless. Lastly you can never get a 7.62x39mm round to fragment, you cannot get enough velocity.

He uses cut away magazines. :rofl: Did he ever about the ChauChau French automatic rifle? what a noobish mistake. tosses why cut away magazines are a bad idea at UAWC. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chauchat the worst machinegun in the history of warfare had cutaway magazines.


It's not a cutaway magazine, it just looks like one. That's a translucent piece of polymer.

No, that is a cutaway magazine, if it was a piece of plastic than you would be able to tell.


It's just not as dark as the HK-417's plastic mag.

Well, being how clear the plastic is, it would not surprise me if sunlight reflecting off your casings would give your men's positions away. There is a reason no one uses transparent magazines, they are usually translucent.


It's a barely translucent, nonreflective surface. If a soldier doesn't like it he can just replace it with a cheap AK mag.

Well than, lets get down to the other problems, making a gun that can be rechambered in three rounds that all do the same thing is a waste. Making a gun that can be rechambered into 3 different rounds costs too much to be worth it is all rounds do the same thing.
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Postby Lyserl » Sat Feb 06, 2010 12:18 pm

UAWC wrote:EDIT: Mine is bigger than yours.

Mine is far more potent.


That being said, we have recently acquired a new ultra-heavy antimaterial rifle.

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Postby Aznakayevo » Sat Feb 06, 2010 12:23 pm

United Nukia wrote:AK-47s of course.

The AK-47 isn't exactly the most reliable weapon out there. For the price-to-quality ratio it works out fine, but there are plenty of better weapon that you could use.

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Postby Fatatatutti » Sat Feb 06, 2010 12:25 pm

UAWC wrote:Some of our weapons are in fact rather light, such as the Remora-12 shotgun attachment, which by the way the AURA-7 is entirely compatible with.

Just how heavy is that shotgun attachment?

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Postby Uawc » Sat Feb 06, 2010 12:27 pm

The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
UAWC wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
UAWC wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
UAWC wrote:
Altamirus wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
UAWC wrote:The UAWC has developed a vastly improved version of its AURA assault rifle.

The AURA-7 assault rifle is designed as a modernized AK-47, with a stock that can both collapse and fold, a comfy grip, a 30-round magazine which lets you have an idea of how much ammo you've got left, an excellent muzzle brake, more customizability, and much, much better sights. The AURA-7 is also lighter, being made with more polymers instead of wood. The AURA-7 also features an easy, quiet selector switch for semi-auto, three-round bursts, and fully automatic. The AURA-7 fires at 600 RPM when fully automatic and is just as reliable as its grandfather rifle. Its standard cartridge is 7.62x39mmC, which combines the best aspects of 7.62x39mm and 5.45x39mm into one round, giving it both the ability to laugh at body armor and tumble upon impact, and in close ranges it may sometimes fragment. However, one of the biggest differences between the AURA-7 and the original AURA is that the AURA-7 comes with a kit which lets you easily rechamber the rifle to fire 5.45x39mm, 5.8x42mm Chinese, and even 5.56x45mm. This makes the AURA-7 very versatile, and it will become a staple for the UAWC armed forces.

First off, get rid of the cut away magazine, it will hurt your men far more than it will ever help them, use translucent magazines if you want your men to know hoe much ammo they have. Also making a gun that can convert to 3 different rounds that do the same jobs is entirely useless. Lastly you can never get a 7.62x39mm round to fragment, you cannot get enough velocity.

He uses cut away magazines. :rofl: Did he ever about the ChauChau French automatic rifle? what a noobish mistake. tosses why cut away magazines are a bad idea at UAWC. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chauchat the worst machinegun in the history of warfare had cutaway magazines.


It's not a cutaway magazine, it just looks like one. That's a translucent piece of polymer.

No, that is a cutaway magazine, if it was a piece of plastic than you would be able to tell.


It's just not as dark as the HK-417's plastic mag.

Well, being how clear the plastic is, it would not surprise me if sunlight reflecting off your casings would give your men's positions away. There is a reason no one uses transparent magazines, they are usually translucent.


It's a barely translucent, nonreflective surface. If a soldier doesn't like it he can just replace it with a cheap AK mag.

Well than, lets get down to the other problems, making a gun that can be rechambered in three rounds that all do the same thing is a waste. Making a gun that can be rechambered into 3 different rounds costs too much to be worth it is all rounds do the same thing.


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Postby Uawc » Sat Feb 06, 2010 12:30 pm

Fatatatutti wrote:
UAWC wrote:Some of our weapons are in fact rather light, such as the Remora-12 shotgun attachment, which by the way the AURA-7 is entirely compatible with.

Just how heavy is that shotgun attachment?


4.83 pounds. Heavier than the one you can put on an AR-15, but at least you can easily remove this and use it on its own when necessary without any hassle. Additionally, it's semi-automatic and has a magazine of 9 rounds.
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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Sat Feb 06, 2010 12:35 pm

UAWC wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
UAWC wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
UAWC wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
UAWC wrote:
Altamirus wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
UAWC wrote:The UAWC has developed a vastly improved version of its AURA assault rifle.

The AURA-7 assault rifle is designed as a modernized AK-47, with a stock that can both collapse and fold, a comfy grip, a 30-round magazine which lets you have an idea of how much ammo you've got left, an excellent muzzle brake, more customizability, and much, much better sights. The AURA-7 is also lighter, being made with more polymers instead of wood. The AURA-7 also features an easy, quiet selector switch for semi-auto, three-round bursts, and fully automatic. The AURA-7 fires at 600 RPM when fully automatic and is just as reliable as its grandfather rifle. Its standard cartridge is 7.62x39mmC, which combines the best aspects of 7.62x39mm and 5.45x39mm into one round, giving it both the ability to laugh at body armor and tumble upon impact, and in close ranges it may sometimes fragment. However, one of the biggest differences between the AURA-7 and the original AURA is that the AURA-7 comes with a kit which lets you easily rechamber the rifle to fire 5.45x39mm, 5.8x42mm Chinese, and even 5.56x45mm. This makes the AURA-7 very versatile, and it will become a staple for the UAWC armed forces.

First off, get rid of the cut away magazine, it will hurt your men far more than it will ever help them, use translucent magazines if you want your men to know hoe much ammo they have. Also making a gun that can convert to 3 different rounds that do the same jobs is entirely useless. Lastly you can never get a 7.62x39mm round to fragment, you cannot get enough velocity.

He uses cut away magazines. :rofl: Did he ever about the ChauChau French automatic rifle? what a noobish mistake. tosses why cut away magazines are a bad idea at UAWC. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chauchat the worst machinegun in the history of warfare had cutaway magazines.


It's not a cutaway magazine, it just looks like one. That's a translucent piece of polymer.

No, that is a cutaway magazine, if it was a piece of plastic than you would be able to tell.


It's just not as dark as the HK-417's plastic mag.

Well, being how clear the plastic is, it would not surprise me if sunlight reflecting off your casings would give your men's positions away. There is a reason no one uses transparent magazines, they are usually translucent.


It's a barely translucent, nonreflective surface. If a soldier doesn't like it he can just replace it with a cheap AK mag.

Well than, lets get down to the other problems, making a gun that can be rechambered in three rounds that all do the same thing is a waste. Making a gun that can be rechambered into 3 different rounds costs too much to be worth it is all rounds do the same thing.


wat

It costs lots of money to design a gun so it can be rechambered in the field because you need extra parts to rechamber a gun, such as in your gun's case 3 different barrels, and 3 different receivers. If all three of the rounds your gun can be chambered in do pretty much the same job, why even make rechambering it possible?
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Postby Uawc » Sat Feb 06, 2010 12:38 pm

The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
UAWC wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
UAWC wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
UAWC wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
UAWC wrote:
Altamirus wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
UAWC wrote:The UAWC has developed a vastly improved version of its AURA assault rifle.

The AURA-7 assault rifle is designed as a modernized AK-47, with a stock that can both collapse and fold, a comfy grip, a 30-round magazine which lets you have an idea of how much ammo you've got left, an excellent muzzle brake, more customizability, and much, much better sights. The AURA-7 is also lighter, being made with more polymers instead of wood. The AURA-7 also features an easy, quiet selector switch for semi-auto, three-round bursts, and fully automatic. The AURA-7 fires at 600 RPM when fully automatic and is just as reliable as its grandfather rifle. Its standard cartridge is 7.62x39mmC, which combines the best aspects of 7.62x39mm and 5.45x39mm into one round, giving it both the ability to laugh at body armor and tumble upon impact, and in close ranges it may sometimes fragment. However, one of the biggest differences between the AURA-7 and the original AURA is that the AURA-7 comes with a kit which lets you easily rechamber the rifle to fire 5.45x39mm, 5.8x42mm Chinese, and even 5.56x45mm. This makes the AURA-7 very versatile, and it will become a staple for the UAWC armed forces.

First off, get rid of the cut away magazine, it will hurt your men far more than it will ever help them, use translucent magazines if you want your men to know hoe much ammo they have. Also making a gun that can convert to 3 different rounds that do the same jobs is entirely useless. Lastly you can never get a 7.62x39mm round to fragment, you cannot get enough velocity.

He uses cut away magazines. :rofl: Did he ever about the ChauChau French automatic rifle? what a noobish mistake. tosses why cut away magazines are a bad idea at UAWC. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chauchat the worst machinegun in the history of warfare had cutaway magazines.


It's not a cutaway magazine, it just looks like one. That's a translucent piece of polymer.

No, that is a cutaway magazine, if it was a piece of plastic than you would be able to tell.


It's just not as dark as the HK-417's plastic mag.

Well, being how clear the plastic is, it would not surprise me if sunlight reflecting off your casings would give your men's positions away. There is a reason no one uses transparent magazines, they are usually translucent.


It's a barely translucent, nonreflective surface. If a soldier doesn't like it he can just replace it with a cheap AK mag.

Well than, lets get down to the other problems, making a gun that can be rechambered in three rounds that all do the same thing is a waste. Making a gun that can be rechambered into 3 different rounds costs too much to be worth it is all rounds do the same thing.


wat

It costs lots of money to design a gun so it can be rechambered in the field because you need extra parts to rechamber a gun, such as in your gun's case 3 different barrels, and 3 different receivers. If all three of the rounds your gun can be chambered in do pretty much the same job, why even make rechambering it possible?


We don't use money, so that's irrelevant to us.

Different rounds have different levels of accuracy, armor penetration and stopping power. And then there's the weight factor.
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Postby Fatatatutti » Sat Feb 06, 2010 12:38 pm

UAWC wrote:
Fatatatutti wrote:Just how heavy is that shotgun attachment?

4.83 pounds.

Yikes. How much would it be if I took off the stock and pistol grip and threw them in the ocean?

It's semi-auto, isn't it? Our Takeapenny Arsenal is working on a bolt-action under-barrel shotgun that weighs like 1.2 kilos, but I'm leaning towards a semi-auto.

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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Sat Feb 06, 2010 12:41 pm

UAWC wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
UAWC wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
UAWC wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
UAWC wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
UAWC wrote:
Altamirus wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
UAWC wrote:The UAWC has developed a vastly improved version of its AURA assault rifle.

The AURA-7 assault rifle is designed as a modernized AK-47, with a stock that can both collapse and fold, a comfy grip, a 30-round magazine which lets you have an idea of how much ammo you've got left, an excellent muzzle brake, more customizability, and much, much better sights. The AURA-7 is also lighter, being made with more polymers instead of wood. The AURA-7 also features an easy, quiet selector switch for semi-auto, three-round bursts, and fully automatic. The AURA-7 fires at 600 RPM when fully automatic and is just as reliable as its grandfather rifle. Its standard cartridge is 7.62x39mmC, which combines the best aspects of 7.62x39mm and 5.45x39mm into one round, giving it both the ability to laugh at body armor and tumble upon impact, and in close ranges it may sometimes fragment. However, one of the biggest differences between the AURA-7 and the original AURA is that the AURA-7 comes with a kit which lets you easily rechamber the rifle to fire 5.45x39mm, 5.8x42mm Chinese, and even 5.56x45mm. This makes the AURA-7 very versatile, and it will become a staple for the UAWC armed forces.

First off, get rid of the cut away magazine, it will hurt your men far more than it will ever help them, use translucent magazines if you want your men to know hoe much ammo they have. Also making a gun that can convert to 3 different rounds that do the same jobs is entirely useless. Lastly you can never get a 7.62x39mm round to fragment, you cannot get enough velocity.

He uses cut away magazines. :rofl: Did he ever about the ChauChau French automatic rifle? what a noobish mistake. tosses why cut away magazines are a bad idea at UAWC. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chauchat the worst machinegun in the history of warfare had cutaway magazines.


It's not a cutaway magazine, it just looks like one. That's a translucent piece of polymer.

No, that is a cutaway magazine, if it was a piece of plastic than you would be able to tell.


It's just not as dark as the HK-417's plastic mag.

Well, being how clear the plastic is, it would not surprise me if sunlight reflecting off your casings would give your men's positions away. There is a reason no one uses transparent magazines, they are usually translucent.


It's a barely translucent, nonreflective surface. If a soldier doesn't like it he can just replace it with a cheap AK mag.

Well than, lets get down to the other problems, making a gun that can be rechambered in three rounds that all do the same thing is a waste. Making a gun that can be rechambered into 3 different rounds costs too much to be worth it is all rounds do the same thing.


wat

It costs lots of money to design a gun so it can be rechambered in the field because you need extra parts to rechamber a gun, such as in your gun's case 3 different barrels, and 3 different receivers. If all three of the rounds your gun can be chambered in do pretty much the same job, why even make rechambering it possible?


We don't use money, so that's irrelevant to us.

Different rounds have different levels of accuracy, armor penetration and stopping power.


Well it costs more materials, and materials don't produce, mine, and ot refine themselves, whether or not you pay your workers doesn't matter, it costs food to keep them alive, it costs manpower, and wood to give them shelter, all societies have had some form of money even if the closest thing they had to money was a bartering system.
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Prior to the Rosario FI 7.62, the service rifle was a locally-produced Mauser, chambered in 7x57mm, which entered service in 1895; this replaced the Remington rolling-block rifle that had entered service in 1883.
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Postby Uawc » Sat Feb 06, 2010 12:47 pm

Fatatatutti wrote:
UAWC wrote:
Fatatatutti wrote:Just how heavy is that shotgun attachment?

4.83 pounds.

Yikes. How much would it be if I took off the stock and pistol grip and threw them in the ocean?

It's semi-auto, isn't it? Our Takeapenny Arsenal is working on a bolt-action under-barrel shotgun that weighs like 1.2 kilos, but I'm leaning towards a semi-auto.

-- Gen. Castro-Stalina


You can do that if you want but it's really unnecessary since the stock and pistol grip are in fact very light. When designing this we were trying to steer away from the M26 MASS because we thought bolt-action was a stupid idea for a shotgun and we wanted to be able to use it on the go, without the actual rifle when necessary. The M26 can be used on its own but you have to detach the parts and put them in your bag when you attach it to the rifle, so...we wanted to say "screw it" and make the process more simple. The result is a heavier weapon, but it's also got more magazine capacity, a much higher rate of fire and a much more simple overall weapon. We strongly suggest that your military use semi-auto for your underbarrel shotguns.
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Postby Uawc » Sat Feb 06, 2010 12:49 pm

The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
UAWC wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
UAWC wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
UAWC wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
UAWC wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
UAWC wrote:
Altamirus wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
UAWC wrote:The UAWC has developed a vastly improved version of its AURA assault rifle.

The AURA-7 assault rifle is designed as a modernized AK-47, with a stock that can both collapse and fold, a comfy grip, a 30-round magazine which lets you have an idea of how much ammo you've got left, an excellent muzzle brake, more customizability, and much, much better sights. The AURA-7 is also lighter, being made with more polymers instead of wood. The AURA-7 also features an easy, quiet selector switch for semi-auto, three-round bursts, and fully automatic. The AURA-7 fires at 600 RPM when fully automatic and is just as reliable as its grandfather rifle. Its standard cartridge is 7.62x39mmC, which combines the best aspects of 7.62x39mm and 5.45x39mm into one round, giving it both the ability to laugh at body armor and tumble upon impact, and in close ranges it may sometimes fragment. However, one of the biggest differences between the AURA-7 and the original AURA is that the AURA-7 comes with a kit which lets you easily rechamber the rifle to fire 5.45x39mm, 5.8x42mm Chinese, and even 5.56x45mm. This makes the AURA-7 very versatile, and it will become a staple for the UAWC armed forces.

First off, get rid of the cut away magazine, it will hurt your men far more than it will ever help them, use translucent magazines if you want your men to know hoe much ammo they have. Also making a gun that can convert to 3 different rounds that do the same jobs is entirely useless. Lastly you can never get a 7.62x39mm round to fragment, you cannot get enough velocity.

He uses cut away magazines. :rofl: Did he ever about the ChauChau French automatic rifle? what a noobish mistake. tosses why cut away magazines are a bad idea at UAWC. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chauchat the worst machinegun in the history of warfare had cutaway magazines.


It's not a cutaway magazine, it just looks like one. That's a translucent piece of polymer.

No, that is a cutaway magazine, if it was a piece of plastic than you would be able to tell.


It's just not as dark as the HK-417's plastic mag.

Well, being how clear the plastic is, it would not surprise me if sunlight reflecting off your casings would give your men's positions away. There is a reason no one uses transparent magazines, they are usually translucent.


It's a barely translucent, nonreflective surface. If a soldier doesn't like it he can just replace it with a cheap AK mag.

Well than, lets get down to the other problems, making a gun that can be rechambered in three rounds that all do the same thing is a waste. Making a gun that can be rechambered into 3 different rounds costs too much to be worth it is all rounds do the same thing.


wat

It costs lots of money to design a gun so it can be rechambered in the field because you need extra parts to rechamber a gun, such as in your gun's case 3 different barrels, and 3 different receivers. If all three of the rounds your gun can be chambered in do pretty much the same job, why even make rechambering it possible?


We don't use money, so that's irrelevant to us.

Different rounds have different levels of accuracy, armor penetration and stopping power.


Well it costs more materials, and materials don't produce, mine, and ot refine themselves, whether or not you pay your workers doesn't matter, it costs food to keep them alive, it costs manpower, and wood to give them shelter, all societies have had some form of money even if the closest thing they had to money was a bartering system.


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Postby Lyserl » Sat Feb 06, 2010 12:51 pm

Lyserl wrote:We have recently acquired a new ultra-heavy antimaterial rifle.

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Postby Uawc » Sat Feb 06, 2010 12:52 pm

Lyserl wrote:
Lyserl wrote:We have recently acquired a new ultra-heavy antimaterial rifle.

link meh for length


Nothing really to say about it, it just looks like a really good rifle with nothing particularly special, though it could use backup iron sights.
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Postby Lyserl » Sat Feb 06, 2010 12:55 pm

Oh, I guess it probably would have helped to put the basic stats up. It's a straight-pull bolt action rifle firing .775 caseless telescoped AP rounds out of a meter-long barrel.
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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Sat Feb 06, 2010 12:56 pm

UAWC wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
UAWC wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
UAWC wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
UAWC wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
UAWC wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
UAWC wrote:
Altamirus wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
UAWC wrote:The UAWC has developed a vastly improved version of its AURA assault rifle.

The AURA-7 assault rifle is designed as a modernized AK-47, with a stock that can both collapse and fold, a comfy grip, a 30-round magazine which lets you have an idea of how much ammo you've got left, an excellent muzzle brake, more customizability, and much, much better sights. The AURA-7 is also lighter, being made with more polymers instead of wood. The AURA-7 also features an easy, quiet selector switch for semi-auto, three-round bursts, and fully automatic. The AURA-7 fires at 600 RPM when fully automatic and is just as reliable as its grandfather rifle. Its standard cartridge is 7.62x39mmC, which combines the best aspects of 7.62x39mm and 5.45x39mm into one round, giving it both the ability to laugh at body armor and tumble upon impact, and in close ranges it may sometimes fragment. However, one of the biggest differences between the AURA-7 and the original AURA is that the AURA-7 comes with a kit which lets you easily rechamber the rifle to fire 5.45x39mm, 5.8x42mm Chinese, and even 5.56x45mm. This makes the AURA-7 very versatile, and it will become a staple for the UAWC armed forces.

First off, get rid of the cut away magazine, it will hurt your men far more than it will ever help them, use translucent magazines if you want your men to know hoe much ammo they have. Also making a gun that can convert to 3 different rounds that do the same jobs is entirely useless. Lastly you can never get a 7.62x39mm round to fragment, you cannot get enough velocity.

He uses cut away magazines. :rofl: Did he ever about the ChauChau French automatic rifle? what a noobish mistake. tosses why cut away magazines are a bad idea at UAWC. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chauchat the worst machinegun in the history of warfare had cutaway magazines.


It's not a cutaway magazine, it just looks like one. That's a translucent piece of polymer.

No, that is a cutaway magazine, if it was a piece of plastic than you would be able to tell.


It's just not as dark as the HK-417's plastic mag.

Well, being how clear the plastic is, it would not surprise me if sunlight reflecting off your casings would give your men's positions away. There is a reason no one uses transparent magazines, they are usually translucent.


It's a barely translucent, nonreflective surface. If a soldier doesn't like it he can just replace it with a cheap AK mag.

Well than, lets get down to the other problems, making a gun that can be rechambered in three rounds that all do the same thing is a waste. Making a gun that can be rechambered into 3 different rounds costs too much to be worth it is all rounds do the same thing.


wat

It costs lots of money to design a gun so it can be rechambered in the field because you need extra parts to rechamber a gun, such as in your gun's case 3 different barrels, and 3 different receivers. If all three of the rounds your gun can be chambered in do pretty much the same job, why even make rechambering it possible?


We don't use money, so that's irrelevant to us.

Different rounds have different levels of accuracy, armor penetration and stopping power.


Well it costs more materials, and materials don't produce, mine, and ot refine themselves, whether or not you pay your workers doesn't matter, it costs food to keep them alive, it costs manpower, and wood to give them shelter, all societies have had some form of money even if the closest thing they had to money was a bartering system.


From each according to his ability, to each according to his need. We have evolved this concept to become the country we are today.

It still takes food to feed your people that work in the factories, it still takes wood to make their houses, the rifles themselves still require steel, plastics, and other metals. All of those are resources the only way your rifles will cost nothing is if you do not give people who mine, or make the materials for your rifle anything, and if you do not give anything to the people who assemble your rifles.
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Postby Fatatatutti » Sat Feb 06, 2010 1:03 pm

UAWC wrote:When designing this we were trying to steer away from the M26 MASS because we thought bolt-action was a stupid idea for a shotgun and we wanted to be able to use it on the go, without the actual rifle when necessary. The M26 can be used on its own but you have to detach the parts and put them in your bag when you attach it to the rifle, so...we wanted to say "screw it" and make the process more simple. The result is a heavier weapon, but it's also got more magazine capacity, a much higher rate of fire and a much more simple overall weapon. We strongly suggest that your military use semi-auto for your underbarrel shotguns.

I have my misgivings about bolt-action too. If we're going to use the thing to give our point men an edge, as somebody mentioned above, a bolt action is going to need three hands.

But I sure as hell don't want that much weight hanging off the end of my rifle all the time. It shouldn't weigh any more than a grenade launcher - an unloaded grenade launcher because that's the way we carry them.

And I also don't want a stand-alone shotgun, so the pistol grip and stock are just dead weight to me. That's why I want to know what a barebones semi-auto would weigh.

(That is what I mean by a versatile weapon: a variety of minimal components that can be put together in a variety of configurations, not a heavy weapon that can have all sorts of other heavy stuff bolted on.)

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Postby Uawc » Sat Feb 06, 2010 1:07 pm

Fatatatutti wrote:
UAWC wrote:When designing this we were trying to steer away from the M26 MASS because we thought bolt-action was a stupid idea for a shotgun and we wanted to be able to use it on the go, without the actual rifle when necessary. The M26 can be used on its own but you have to detach the parts and put them in your bag when you attach it to the rifle, so...we wanted to say "screw it" and make the process more simple. The result is a heavier weapon, but it's also got more magazine capacity, a much higher rate of fire and a much more simple overall weapon. We strongly suggest that your military use semi-auto for your underbarrel shotguns.

I have my misgivings about bolt-action too. If we're going to use the thing to give our point men an edge, as somebody mentioned above, a bolt action is going to need three hands.

But I sure as hell don't want that much weight hanging off the end of my rifle all the time. It shouldn't weigh any more than a grenade launcher - an unloaded grenade launcher because that's the way we carry it.

And I also don't want a stand-alone shotgun, so the pistol grip and stock are just dead weight to me. That's why I want to know what a barebones semi-auto would weigh.

(That is what i mean by a versatile weapon: a variety of minimal components that can be put together in a variety of configurations, not a heavy weapon that can have all sorts of other heavy stuff bolted on.)

-- Gen. Castro-Stalina


You know, the UAWC will be happy to design a version of the Remora-12 to fit your specifications and to export into your fine country.
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Postby Uawc » Sat Feb 06, 2010 1:08 pm

The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
UAWC wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
UAWC wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
UAWC wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
UAWC wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
UAWC wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
UAWC wrote:
Altamirus wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
UAWC wrote:The UAWC has developed a vastly improved version of its AURA assault rifle.

The AURA-7 assault rifle is designed as a modernized AK-47, with a stock that can both collapse and fold, a comfy grip, a 30-round magazine which lets you have an idea of how much ammo you've got left, an excellent muzzle brake, more customizability, and much, much better sights. The AURA-7 is also lighter, being made with more polymers instead of wood. The AURA-7 also features an easy, quiet selector switch for semi-auto, three-round bursts, and fully automatic. The AURA-7 fires at 600 RPM when fully automatic and is just as reliable as its grandfather rifle. Its standard cartridge is 7.62x39mmC, which combines the best aspects of 7.62x39mm and 5.45x39mm into one round, giving it both the ability to laugh at body armor and tumble upon impact, and in close ranges it may sometimes fragment. However, one of the biggest differences between the AURA-7 and the original AURA is that the AURA-7 comes with a kit which lets you easily rechamber the rifle to fire 5.45x39mm, 5.8x42mm Chinese, and even 5.56x45mm. This makes the AURA-7 very versatile, and it will become a staple for the UAWC armed forces.

First off, get rid of the cut away magazine, it will hurt your men far more than it will ever help them, use translucent magazines if you want your men to know hoe much ammo they have. Also making a gun that can convert to 3 different rounds that do the same jobs is entirely useless. Lastly you can never get a 7.62x39mm round to fragment, you cannot get enough velocity.

He uses cut away magazines. :rofl: Did he ever about the ChauChau French automatic rifle? what a noobish mistake. tosses why cut away magazines are a bad idea at UAWC. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chauchat the worst machinegun in the history of warfare had cutaway magazines.


It's not a cutaway magazine, it just looks like one. That's a translucent piece of polymer.

No, that is a cutaway magazine, if it was a piece of plastic than you would be able to tell.


It's just not as dark as the HK-417's plastic mag.

Well, being how clear the plastic is, it would not surprise me if sunlight reflecting off your casings would give your men's positions away. There is a reason no one uses transparent magazines, they are usually translucent.


It's a barely translucent, nonreflective surface. If a soldier doesn't like it he can just replace it with a cheap AK mag.

Well than, lets get down to the other problems, making a gun that can be rechambered in three rounds that all do the same thing is a waste. Making a gun that can be rechambered into 3 different rounds costs too much to be worth it is all rounds do the same thing.


wat

It costs lots of money to design a gun so it can be rechambered in the field because you need extra parts to rechamber a gun, such as in your gun's case 3 different barrels, and 3 different receivers. If all three of the rounds your gun can be chambered in do pretty much the same job, why even make rechambering it possible?


We don't use money, so that's irrelevant to us.

Different rounds have different levels of accuracy, armor penetration and stopping power.


Well it costs more materials, and materials don't produce, mine, and ot refine themselves, whether or not you pay your workers doesn't matter, it costs food to keep them alive, it costs manpower, and wood to give them shelter, all societies have had some form of money even if the closest thing they had to money was a bartering system.


From each according to his ability, to each according to his need. We have evolved this concept to become the country we are today.

It still takes food to feed your people that work in the factories, it still takes wood to make their houses, the rifles themselves still require steel, plastics, and other metals. All of those are resources the only way your rifles will cost nothing is if you do not give people who mine, or make the materials for your rifle anything, and if you do not give anything to the people who assemble your rifles.


We have an economy, it's just moneyless. It works just fine.

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