What is the main military weapon of your country?

[The Anglo-Saxon Empire]

as in the fuss I've seen on the 7.62 x 39, it doesn't have that much kick. Hell you want kick get a 12 gauge with a door breacher slug.)

The problem isn't the kick of the 7.62x39mm round it is the fact that it is a terrible rounds, it has a low ballistic coefficient, it is heavy, and it does little internal damage, the 7.62x54 round is a good round if you are willing to deal with the kick, the 7.62x39 isn't ever a good round.

[KenKenpachi]

as in the fuss I've seen on the 7.62 x 39

Most of the fuss in this thread about the x39 is the insistence by UAWC that it is a superior round when it just isn't.

OOC Ah, I'll give it marks on penatration and stoping power (not in wounding, but in just killing/maiming guy behind him), but given as I've worked with .223 and 7.62 x 39, Its cons are, Poor Range, I mean it has shitty range, and accuracy are also poor, but when you look at the design of the weapons both are chambered for (at least the starting weapons) they fit well. M-16 was a Rifle with automatic fire (selector goes from safe to semi, then burst, Auto) and the AK-47 was built as a Machinegun that could fire in Semi. (Safe, Auto, Semi). .223 is a surgical round, 7.62x39 is a mace. Depends on the job, you want to have a nice clean weapon to hit one target, or if you want a weapon to kill every MFer in the room.

[Andertion]

By far our favorite weapon is the MF-12^. Yes it is a P-90

They are often called "Splats" because the first time they where used by our nation it was an execution of a hated general and he made a distinct splat when shot.

[Crookfur]

The joint arms modular components system 54. Or the JASM-54. It is a standard issued Assualt rifle in design of Soviet Era AK-47/PK lmg and SVD weapons(yes yes the AK doesn't carry the below round, I'm talking about looks), with a modular system and chamberd for the Russian 7.62x54r, to help with recoil the weapon has a compensator in the feed system similar to the AN-94. The 7 to 10 pound wieght of the weapon also helps keep the barrle down, though short of the LMG version all others are only able to fire in burst of single semi auto fire.

Componets arn't generally issued but clips and drums will match up allowing our soldiers to share weapons, AP and fragmentation are the preferd rounds as in our military we rather kill the enemy than wound him. Also given the small size of our military and population we have to field as many of our weapons in as common a round as possible. To help take off the heavy load of our soldiers general kit consists of survival items and the weapon and ammunition, be they Sniper, Assualt, or LMG. General livinging kit is carried by supply personal to ease the burnden of the common foot soldier. Cutting the weight of carried kit from the typical 100 pounds to 60.

We also have considerd strapping bombs to monkeys as a suicide weapon << >>.

(ooc please no bitching about this being too strong of a round it has been around for over 100 years and is still used in LMG's and Sniper Rifles in the Eastern bloc. So given the current position of my nation, why not make it the Assualt rifle too, the M-14 was used in .308 and it was managable. And I have shot this round and most of the above weapons, as well as own a number of those in my list so I'm well aware of its kick, as in the fuss I've seen on the 7.62 x 39, it doesn't have that much kick. Hell you want kick get a 12 gauge with a door breacher slug.)

My only concern would the fact that the the 7.62x54mm R is rimmed which isn't an issue in small magazines or in belt and pan fed MGs but can be a major head ache when it comes to larger capacity box magazines and would be a potential major head ache when it comes to implementing a twin stage feed and traveling mechanism like the AN-94. Using the Draganov as as the basis/inspiration for battle rifle isn't a bad idea

[Uawc]

as in the fuss I've seen on the 7.62 x 39

Most of the fuss in this thread about the x39 is the insistence by UAWC that it is a superior round when it just isn't.

OOC Ah, I'll give it marks on penatration and stoping power (not in wounding, but in just killing/maiming guy behind him), but given as I've worked with .223 and 7.62 x 39, Its cons are, Poor Range, I mean it has shitty range, and accuracy are also poor, but when you look at the design of the weapons both are chambered for (at least the starting weapons) they fit well. M-16 was a Rifle with automatic fire (selector goes from safe to semi, then burst, Auto) and the AK-47 was built as a Machinegun that could fire in Semi. (Safe, Auto, Semi). .223 is a surgical round, 7.62x39 is a mace. Depends on the job, you want to have a nice clean weapon to hit one target, or if you want a weapon to kill every MFer in the room.

That's generally UAWC policy with automatic firearms, the sole exceptions being long-range battle rifles and designated marksman rifles.

[KenKenpachi]

The joint arms modular components system 54. Or the JASM-54. It is a standard issued Assualt rifle in design of Soviet Era AK-47/PK lmg and SVD weapons(yes yes the AK doesn't carry the below round, I'm talking about looks), with a modular system and chamberd for the Russian 7.62x54r, to help with recoil the weapon has a compensator in the feed system similar to the AN-94. The 7 to 10 pound wieght of the weapon also helps keep the barrle down, though short of the LMG version all others are only able to fire in burst of single semi auto fire.

Componets arn't generally issued but clips and drums will match up allowing our soldiers to share weapons, AP and fragmentation are the preferd rounds as in our military we rather kill the enemy than wound him. Also given the small size of our military and population we have to field as many of our weapons in as common a round as possible. To help take off the heavy load of our soldiers general kit consists of survival items and the weapon and ammunition, be they Sniper, Assualt, or LMG. General livinging kit is carried by supply personal to ease the burnden of the common foot soldier. Cutting the weight of carried kit from the typical 100 pounds to 60.

We also have considerd strapping bombs to monkeys as a suicide weapon << >>.

(ooc please no bitching about this being too strong of a round it has been around for over 100 years and is still used in LMG's and Sniper Rifles in the Eastern bloc. So given the current position of my nation, why not make it the Assualt rifle too, the M-14 was used in .308 and it was managable. And I have shot this round and most of the above weapons, as well as own a number of those in my list so I'm well aware of its kick, as in the fuss I've seen on the 7.62 x 39, it doesn't have that much kick. Hell you want kick get a 12 gauge with a door breacher slug.)

My only concern would the fact that the the 7.62x54mm R is rimmed which isn't an issue in small magazines or in belt and pan fed MGs but can be a major head ache when it comes to larger capacity box magazines and would be a potential major head ache when it comes to implementing a twin stage feed and traveling mechanism like the AN-94. Using the Draganov as as the basis/inspiration for battle rifle isn't a bad idea

OOC
Hmm, Dragonov would work better, however I would have to add more weight to the weapon system, as to belt feed, you can use such system with a mag, such as in the RPD, which maybe I will switch to that say in the 75 to 100 round system, and with typical mags being 10 to 20 rounds, you are right on the size of the rounds being troublesome with large traditional mags however, perhapes I should clarify that issue. As to the AN-94 it would be a major headache indeed but doable, the only issue I see as I look back on it is simple, if the bulk of my infantry Assualt Rifles are burst and Semi only, then why use said system, I will edit my post.

[The Lower Mason-Dixon]

This here sirs is the properly good weapon used and stored for the militias who are for the defense of the nation. The M1A Carbine for good use, and surely able to protect the enshrined sovereignty of our Confederation of free States.

Specifications are not supplied to protect our sovereign peoples.

[Nosgotham]

[Uawc]

The UAWC has developed a vastly improved version of its AURA assault rifle.

The AURA-7 assault rifle is designed as a modernized AK-47, with a stock that can both collapse and fold, a comfy grip, a 30-round magazine which lets you have an idea of how much ammo you've got left, an excellent muzzle brake, more customizability, and much, much better sights. The AURA-7 is also lighter, being made with more polymers instead of wood. The AURA-7 also features an easy, quiet selector switch for semi-auto, three-round bursts, and fully automatic. The AURA-7 fires at 600 RPM when fully automatic and is just as reliable as its grandfather rifle. Its standard cartridge is 7.62x39mmC, which combines the best aspects of 7.62x39mm and 5.45x39mm into one round, giving it both the ability to laugh at body armor and tumble upon impact, and in close ranges it may sometimes fragment. However, one of the biggest differences between the AURA-7 and the original AURA is that the AURA-7 comes with a kit which lets you easily rechamber the rifle to fire 5.45x39mm, 5.8x42mm Chinese, and even 5.56x45mm. This makes the AURA-7 very versatile, and it will become a staple for the UAWC armed forces.

[Alahastra]

One thing I noticed about UAWC's weapons is that personally, they look ridiculously heavy what with all the parts. But that's coming from a person with no knowledge or experience with weapons.

[The Anglo-Saxon Empire]

The UAWC has developed a vastly improved version of its AURA assault rifle.

The AURA-7 assault rifle is designed as a modernized AK-47, with a stock that can both collapse and fold, a comfy grip, a 30-round magazine which lets you have an idea of how much ammo you've got left, an excellent muzzle brake, more customizability, and much, much better sights. The AURA-7 is also lighter, being made with more polymers instead of wood. The AURA-7 also features an easy, quiet selector switch for semi-auto, three-round bursts, and fully automatic. The AURA-7 fires at 600 RPM when fully automatic and is just as reliable as its grandfather rifle. Its standard cartridge is 7.62x39mmC, which combines the best aspects of 7.62x39mm and 5.45x39mm into one round, giving it both the ability to laugh at body armor and tumble upon impact, and in close ranges it may sometimes fragment. However, one of the biggest differences between the AURA-7 and the original AURA is that the AURA-7 comes with a kit which lets you easily rechamber the rifle to fire 5.45x39mm, 5.8x42mm Chinese, and even 5.56x45mm. This makes the AURA-7 very versatile, and it will become a staple for the UAWC armed forces.

First off, get rid of the cut away magazine, it will hurt your men far more than it will ever help them, use translucent magazines if you want your men to know hoe much ammo they have. Also making a gun that can convert to 3 different rounds that do the same jobs is entirely useless. Lastly you can never get a 7.62x39mm round to fragment, you cannot get enough velocity.

Edit: also get rid of the visible gas tube, cover it with a hand guard if you must, but don't leave it hanging there, also change the forward hand guard, it looks almost painful to hold.

[Uawc]

One thing I noticed about UAWC's weapons is that personally, they look ridiculously heavy what with all the parts. But that's coming from a person with no knowledge or experience with weapons.

Many of them are quite heavy, though some of them are made of light materials, such as the AURA-7. Some of our weapons are in fact rather light, such as the Remora-12 shotgun attachment, which by the way the AURA-7 is entirely compatible with.

[Alahastra]

I have no problems with the UAWC weapons, just that whenever I see a UAWC weapon, I see two UAWC soldiers carrying the weapon between them due to the weight, especially if the weapon's something like this BC-454 automatic revolver.

[Uawc]

I have no problems with the UAWC weapons, just that whenever I see a UAWC weapon, I see two UAWC soldiers carrying the weapon between them due to the weight, especially if the weapon's something like this BC-454 automatic revolver.

It's big, but it's made more of polymers than metals, so it isn't as heavy as it looks.

[Uawc]

The UAWC has developed a vastly improved version of its AURA assault rifle.

The AURA-7 assault rifle is designed as a modernized AK-47, with a stock that can both collapse and fold, a comfy grip, a 30-round magazine which lets you have an idea of how much ammo you've got left, an excellent muzzle brake, more customizability, and much, much better sights. The AURA-7 is also lighter, being made with more polymers instead of wood. The AURA-7 also features an easy, quiet selector switch for semi-auto, three-round bursts, and fully automatic. The AURA-7 fires at 600 RPM when fully automatic and is just as reliable as its grandfather rifle. Its standard cartridge is 7.62x39mmC, which combines the best aspects of 7.62x39mm and 5.45x39mm into one round, giving it both the ability to laugh at body armor and tumble upon impact, and in close ranges it may sometimes fragment. However, one of the biggest differences between the AURA-7 and the original AURA is that the AURA-7 comes with a kit which lets you easily rechamber the rifle to fire 5.45x39mm, 5.8x42mm Chinese, and even 5.56x45mm. This makes the AURA-7 very versatile, and it will become a staple for the UAWC armed forces.

First off, get rid of the cut away magazine, it will hurt your men far more than it will ever help them, use translucent magazines if you want your men to know hoe much ammo they have. Also making a gun that can convert to 3 different rounds that do the same jobs is entirely useless. Lastly you can never get a 7.62x39mm round to fragment, you cannot get enough velocity.

He uses cut away magazines. Did he ever about the ChauChau French automatic rifle? what a noobish mistake. tosses why cut away magazines are a bad idea at UAWC. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chauchat the worst machinegun in the history of warfare had cutaway magazines.

It's not a cutaway magazine, it just looks like one. That's a translucent piece of polymer.

[The Anglo-Saxon Empire]

The UAWC has developed a vastly improved version of its AURA assault rifle.

The AURA-7 assault rifle is designed as a modernized AK-47, with a stock that can both collapse and fold, a comfy grip, a 30-round magazine which lets you have an idea of how much ammo you've got left, an excellent muzzle brake, more customizability, and much, much better sights. The AURA-7 is also lighter, being made with more polymers instead of wood. The AURA-7 also features an easy, quiet selector switch for semi-auto, three-round bursts, and fully automatic. The AURA-7 fires at 600 RPM when fully automatic and is just as reliable as its grandfather rifle. Its standard cartridge is 7.62x39mmC, which combines the best aspects of 7.62x39mm and 5.45x39mm into one round, giving it both the ability to laugh at body armor and tumble upon impact, and in close ranges it may sometimes fragment. However, one of the biggest differences between the AURA-7 and the original AURA is that the AURA-7 comes with a kit which lets you easily rechamber the rifle to fire 5.45x39mm, 5.8x42mm Chinese, and even 5.56x45mm. This makes the AURA-7 very versatile, and it will become a staple for the UAWC armed forces.

First off, get rid of the cut away magazine, it will hurt your men far more than it will ever help them, use translucent magazines if you want your men to know hoe much ammo they have. Also making a gun that can convert to 3 different rounds that do the same jobs is entirely useless. Lastly you can never get a 7.62x39mm round to fragment, you cannot get enough velocity.

He uses cut away magazines. Did he ever about the ChauChau French automatic rifle? what a noobish mistake. tosses why cut away magazines are a bad idea at UAWC. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chauchat the worst machinegun in the history of warfare had cutaway magazines.

It's not a cutaway magazine, it just looks like one. That's a translucent piece of polymer.

No, that is a cutaway magazine, if it was a piece of plastic than you would be able to tell.

[Alahastra]

Just out of further curiosity, how many meters inches long is the aforementioned sidearm?

[Uawc]

The UAWC has developed a vastly improved version of its AURA assault rifle.

The AURA-7 assault rifle is designed as a modernized AK-47, with a stock that can both collapse and fold, a comfy grip, a 30-round magazine which lets you have an idea of how much ammo you've got left, an excellent muzzle brake, more customizability, and much, much better sights. The AURA-7 is also lighter, being made with more polymers instead of wood. The AURA-7 also features an easy, quiet selector switch for semi-auto, three-round bursts, and fully automatic. The AURA-7 fires at 600 RPM when fully automatic and is just as reliable as its grandfather rifle. Its standard cartridge is 7.62x39mmC, which combines the best aspects of 7.62x39mm and 5.45x39mm into one round, giving it both the ability to laugh at body armor and tumble upon impact, and in close ranges it may sometimes fragment. However, one of the biggest differences between the AURA-7 and the original AURA is that the AURA-7 comes with a kit which lets you easily rechamber the rifle to fire 5.45x39mm, 5.8x42mm Chinese, and even 5.56x45mm. This makes the AURA-7 very versatile, and it will become a staple for the UAWC armed forces.

First off, get rid of the cut away magazine, it will hurt your men far more than it will ever help them, use translucent magazines if you want your men to know hoe much ammo they have. Also making a gun that can convert to 3 different rounds that do the same jobs is entirely useless. Lastly you can never get a 7.62x39mm round to fragment, you cannot get enough velocity.

He uses cut away magazines. Did he ever about the ChauChau French automatic rifle? what a noobish mistake. tosses why cut away magazines are a bad idea at UAWC. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chauchat the worst machinegun in the history of warfare had cutaway magazines.

It's not a cutaway magazine, it just looks like one. That's a translucent piece of polymer.

No, that is a cutaway magazine, if it was a piece of plastic than you would be able to tell.

It's just not as dark as the HK-417's plastic mag.

[Uawc]

Just out of further curiosity, how many meters inches long is the aforementioned sidearm?

Too long for it to be standard issue, that's for sure.

EDIT: Mine is bigger than yours.

[Alahastra]

Just out of further curiosity, how many meters inches long is the aforementioned sidearm?

Too long for it to be standard issue, that's for sure.

EDIT: Mine is bigger than yours.

But I can whip mine out faster.

[Uawc]

Just out of further curiosity, how many meters inches long is the aforementioned sidearm?

Too long for it to be standard issue, that's for sure.

EDIT: Mine is bigger than yours.

But I can whip mine out faster.

Perhaps, but the ladies are more impressed by mine's power and range.

[Uawc]

Just out of further curiosity, how many meters inches long is the aforementioned sidearm?

Too long for it to be standard issue, that's for sure.

Oh, I see your probelm, this thread is called main military weapons of your country. When people title the thread that way, we mean to only to be talking about standard issue arms. You should start a thread about arms that are not standard issue.

OOC: I intro new weapons here because of the happy family of mouth-breathers gun nuts who are always ready to bash critique my designs.

[The Anglo-Saxon Empire]

The UAWC has developed a vastly improved version of its AURA assault rifle.

The AURA-7 assault rifle is designed as a modernized AK-47, with a stock that can both collapse and fold, a comfy grip, a 30-round magazine which lets you have an idea of how much ammo you've got left, an excellent muzzle brake, more customizability, and much, much better sights. The AURA-7 is also lighter, being made with more polymers instead of wood. The AURA-7 also features an easy, quiet selector switch for semi-auto, three-round bursts, and fully automatic. The AURA-7 fires at 600 RPM when fully automatic and is just as reliable as its grandfather rifle. Its standard cartridge is 7.62x39mmC, which combines the best aspects of 7.62x39mm and 5.45x39mm into one round, giving it both the ability to laugh at body armor and tumble upon impact, and in close ranges it may sometimes fragment. However, one of the biggest differences between the AURA-7 and the original AURA is that the AURA-7 comes with a kit which lets you easily rechamber the rifle to fire 5.45x39mm, 5.8x42mm Chinese, and even 5.56x45mm. This makes the AURA-7 very versatile, and it will become a staple for the UAWC armed forces.

First off, get rid of the cut away magazine, it will hurt your men far more than it will ever help them, use translucent magazines if you want your men to know hoe much ammo they have. Also making a gun that can convert to 3 different rounds that do the same jobs is entirely useless. Lastly you can never get a 7.62x39mm round to fragment, you cannot get enough velocity.

He uses cut away magazines. Did he ever about the ChauChau French automatic rifle? what a noobish mistake. tosses why cut away magazines are a bad idea at UAWC. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chauchat the worst machinegun in the history of warfare had cutaway magazines.

It's not a cutaway magazine, it just looks like one. That's a translucent piece of polymer.

No, that is a cutaway magazine, if it was a piece of plastic than you would be able to tell.

It's just not as dark as the HK-417's plastic mag.

Well, being how clear the plastic is, it would not surprise me if sunlight reflecting off your casings would give your men's positions away. There is a reason no one uses transparent magazines, they are usually translucent.

[Alahastra]

As if the thread hasn't been derailed already. But to put the thread back on topic:

The standard issue small arms of Alahastra contain almost no variety, are quite outdated, but in the hands of a skilled soldier, are quite lethal.
Redwarren Combat Industries, the official Alahastran firearms supplier

[Uawc]

The UAWC has developed a vastly improved version of its AURA assault rifle.

The AURA-7 assault rifle is designed as a modernized AK-47, with a stock that can both collapse and fold, a comfy grip, a 30-round magazine which lets you have an idea of how much ammo you've got left, an excellent muzzle brake, more customizability, and much, much better sights. The AURA-7 is also lighter, being made with more polymers instead of wood. The AURA-7 also features an easy, quiet selector switch for semi-auto, three-round bursts, and fully automatic. The AURA-7 fires at 600 RPM when fully automatic and is just as reliable as its grandfather rifle. Its standard cartridge is 7.62x39mmC, which combines the best aspects of 7.62x39mm and 5.45x39mm into one round, giving it both the ability to laugh at body armor and tumble upon impact, and in close ranges it may sometimes fragment. However, one of the biggest differences between the AURA-7 and the original AURA is that the AURA-7 comes with a kit which lets you easily rechamber the rifle to fire 5.45x39mm, 5.8x42mm Chinese, and even 5.56x45mm. This makes the AURA-7 very versatile, and it will become a staple for the UAWC armed forces.

First off, get rid of the cut away magazine, it will hurt your men far more than it will ever help them, use translucent magazines if you want your men to know hoe much ammo they have. Also making a gun that can convert to 3 different rounds that do the same jobs is entirely useless. Lastly you can never get a 7.62x39mm round to fragment, you cannot get enough velocity.

He uses cut away magazines. Did he ever about the ChauChau French automatic rifle? what a noobish mistake. tosses why cut away magazines are a bad idea at UAWC. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chauchat the worst machinegun in the history of warfare had cutaway magazines.

It's not a cutaway magazine, it just looks like one. That's a translucent piece of polymer.

No, that is a cutaway magazine, if it was a piece of plastic than you would be able to tell.

It's just not as dark as the HK-417's plastic mag.

Well, being how clear the plastic is, it would not surprise me if sunlight reflecting off your casings would give your men's positions away. There is a reason no one uses transparent magazines, they are usually translucent.

It's a barely translucent, nonreflective surface. If a soldier doesn't like it he can just replace it with a cheap AK mag.