What is the main military weapon of your country?

[Porinn]

The People's Revolutionary Front

H&K G3A3:

The standard issue rifle of the PRF is the Hechler & Koch G3A3, issued for its rigorous design, availability and fairly flexible customisability. Each comes with a bayonet and an optional holographic sight for high-importance operations:




Beretta 92 Vertec:

The Beretta 92-V was chosen as the standard infantry pistol because of its compact, lightweight design, impressive accuracy and rate of fire.




RPK-74M

The RPK-74M is the standard light machine gun issued to support troops, its versatility and endurance make it ideal for fighting in the dense and damp forests of Porinn.




Dragunov SVD-1

The SVD-1 is issued to all sniper units in the PRF, chosen to extend the range of all infantry squads to up to 600m and to provide fire support in urban warfare during the uprising in Goya-Boyedi (Formerly "Mornes").






The Free Militia (Militant wing of the Porinnian Freedom Party)

AK-47

The AK-47 assault rifle was never officially established as the main battle rifle of the Free Militia, although it was quickly adopted by the members of the militia during the revolution for its ease of use and endurance.




SKS Carbine

This semi-automatic rifle was adopted by the militia during the revolution for its compact size, ease of transport and fairly good accuracy.


(grab sks, go inna woods)


Colt M1911

This pistol was particularly easy to come by during the revolution because of the huge numbers of them around the country, they were often used for assassination attempts, minor uprisings and self defence.






Bestrashniy-Tigr (Special Forces Division of the Armed Forces)

AKS-74U

This short assault rifle was chosen by the Bestig for its compact size, ease of concealability and rapid rate of fire, making it particularly useful in covert operations.




FN SCAR-L

This assault rifle is particularly expensive and thus only used by select units such as certain officers and for high priority operations.


(oh lord, forgive me for my moment of weakness, for i almost implied i was passing the SCAR off as a good weapon.)


Benelli M3

The Benelli M3 is a shotgun used by the Bestig in CQC situations and is issued to one individual per squad for when such situations arise.






Rapid Police Armed Response Unit

UZI SMG

The UZI SMG is the standard submachine gun of the RPARU, particularly useful for close quarters combat and breaching exercises.




Remington 870 MCS

This compact shotgun is very effective during breaches, with an impressive ability to quickly dispatch armed opponents at close range and nice compactivity.

[Kung-fu Oscar Kids]

Ok,first of all the green berets probably have more of an advantage becauseda Spetz are probably beaten during training, if u think it's toughening them up,ur rong because they probably pull their groins because the drill-sgt. steps on their sacks all the time. American Soldiers are trained through intense exercise and training.America has a good reason to fight (besides Obama). If u disagree your a commie

I am a commie, and you're an idiot.

R U RUSSIAN OR CHINESE

[Kung-fu Oscar Kids]

Ok,first of all the green berets probably have more of an advantage becauseda Spetz are probably beaten during training, if u think it's toughening them up,ur rong because they probably pull their groins because the drill-sgt. steps on their sacks all the time. American Soldiers are trained through intense exercise and training.America has a good reason to fight (besides Obama). If u disagree your a commie

I am a commie, and you're an idiot.

Quiet commie

I don't see why his comment warrants borderline flaming...

But I want to take away all his AMERCKUN FREEDUMBS.....

Seriously mate
and does your beloved communism have any of these freedoms?

Albantre has a point and dont forget tat Rancilia started my debate

[Uawc]

The main minigun of the UAWC is the UHM. Mounted on heavy vehicles (most notably the UAWC's 2012 battlemech), it fires 30mm rounds at 3000 RPM. The version pictured in the first image is the emplacement version. This weapon cannot be carried by personnel under any circumstances (unless in groups) due to its massive weight. Modeled after the Dillon and GAU-8, it can easily tear apart tanks.

*I have been informed by the designers that the representing image may be a little off.

[Pandemicia]

Alright. I've narrowed down my search for a main RL assault rifle for my nation down to 3 guns. I need some help deciding which would be best suited for me. Help a bro out?

-AK-47

-AK-74

-FN FAL

Which one?

[Uawc]

Ok,first of all the green berets probably have more of an advantage becauseda Spetz are probably beaten during training, if u think it's toughening them up,ur rong because they probably pull their groins because the drill-sgt. steps on their sacks all the time. American Soldiers are trained through intense exercise and training.America has a good reason to fight (besides Obama). If u disagree your a commie

I am a commie, and you're an idiot.

R U RUSSIAN OR CHINESE

Clue: I live in your country's hat.

[Uawc]

Alright. I've narrowed down my search for a main RL assault rifle for my nation down to 3 guns. I need some help deciding which would be best suited for me. Help a bro out?

-AK-47

-AK-74

-FN FAL

Which one?

Definitely the AK-74. It's made of win and commie.

[Porinn]

FN FAL, not only is it uncommunist, it fires the manly 7.62 *flex*

>FN FAL

>Uncommunist

[Uawc]

The main minigun of the UAWC is the UHM. Mounted on heavy vehicles (most notably the UAWC's 2012 battlemech), it fires 30mm rounds at 3000 RPM. The version pictured in the first image is the emplacement version. This weapon cannot be carried by personnel under any circumstances (unless in groups) due to its massive weight. Modeled after the Dillon and GAU-8, it can easily tear apart tanks.

*I have been informed by the designers that the representing image may be a little off.

We of the UAWC would like the opinions of others, if you will provide them.

[Porinn]

The main minigun of the UAWC is the UHM. Mounted on heavy vehicles (most notably the UAWC's 2012 battlemech), it fires 30mm rounds at 3000 RPM. The version pictured in the first image is the emplacement version. This weapon cannot be carried by personnel under any circumstances (unless in groups) due to its massive weight. Modeled after the Dillon and GAU-8, it can easily tear apart tanks.

*I have been informed by the designers that the representing image may be a little off.

We of the UAWC would like the opinions of others, if you will provide them.

UAWC big und strong, UAWC have implausible gun that tear errparrt tank.

[Uawc]

The main minigun of the UAWC is the UHM. Mounted on heavy vehicles (most notably the UAWC's 2012 battlemech), it fires 30mm rounds at 3000 RPM. The version pictured in the first image is the emplacement version. This weapon cannot be carried by personnel under any circumstances (unless in groups) due to its massive weight. Modeled after the Dillon and GAU-8, it can easily tear apart tanks.

*I have been informed by the designers that the representing image may be a little off.

We of the UAWC would like the opinions of others, if you will provide them.

UAWC big und strong, UAWC have implausible gun that tear errparrt tank.

Implausible how? It's belt-fed and mounted. And even then, we only put it on our heavy vehicles and gunships.

[Judy Gar Land]

Judy's beautiful voice

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcxq1l_v3LM

[Senestrum]

The main minigun of the UAWC is the UHM. Mounted on heavy vehicles (most notably the UAWC's 2012 battlemech), it fires 30mm rounds at 3000 RPM. The version pictured in the first image is the emplacement version. This weapon cannot be carried by personnel under any circumstances (unless in groups) due to its massive weight. Modeled after the Dillon and GAU-8, it can easily tear apart tanks.

*I have been informed by the designers that the representing image may be a little off.

We of the UAWC would like the opinions of others, if you will provide them.

Well, you are aware that the only reason the GAU-8 is effective against tanks is because it is hitting the very thin top armor with a large number of shells, right? Assuming anything like a normal engagement range you will have a great deal of trouble getting a significant number of hits in.

[Uawc]

The main minigun of the UAWC is the UHM. Mounted on heavy vehicles (most notably the UAWC's 2012 battlemech), it fires 30mm rounds at 3000 RPM. The version pictured in the first image is the emplacement version. This weapon cannot be carried by personnel under any circumstances (unless in groups) due to its massive weight. Modeled after the Dillon and GAU-8, it can easily tear apart tanks.

*I have been informed by the designers that the representing image may be a little off.

We of the UAWC would like the opinions of others, if you will provide them.

Well, you are aware that the only reason the GAU-8 is effective against tanks is because it is hitting the very thin top armor with a large number of shells, right? Assuming anything like a normal engagement range you will have a great deal of trouble getting a significant number of hits in.

Is the fire rate too low? We're perfectly capable of raising it, but...on the mech we have two.

[Gc1mak]

Problem is that it can't penetrate the front armour of all modern MBT, and your barrel will wear out way too quickly, ammunitions expended too quickly.

[Uawc]

Problem is that it can't penetrate the front armour of all modern MBT, and your barrel will wear out way too quickly, ammunitions expended too quickly.

We have other weapons if this doesn't do the job. It's passed testing with flying colors. Barrel wearing out quickly, ammunition expended too quickly, isn't that a problem any minigun would have to deal with?

EDIT: Actually, no, the barrels wouldn't wear out quickly because there's six of them and each one only has to deal with 500 RPM...which is less than an MP40.

[Gc1mak]

Well, but you still got to be careful, 30mm wear out barrel faster then a 9mmx19mm.. You use russian or western style barrel? Russian style barrel had shorter barrel life, is disposable but i think they more accurate.

[Uawc]

Well, but you still got to be careful, 30mm wear out barrel faster then a 9mmx19mm.. You use russian or western style barrel? Russian style barrel had shorter barrel life, is disposable but i think they more accurate.

We use our own style, which is closer to Western when it comes to these sorts of weapons.

They're accurate but slightly less so than, say, a Dillon. They need to be taken care of, too.

[Crookfur]

Well, but you still got to be careful, 30mm wear out barrel faster then a 9mmx19mm.. You use russian or western style barrel? Russian style barrel had shorter barrel life, is disposable but i think they more accurate.

We use our own style, which is closer to Western when it comes to these sorts of weapons.

They're accurate but slightly less so than, say, a Dillon. They need to be taken care of, too.

I hate to have to but in again as based on previous experience you wont listen but i feel I have to try.

A few thigns:

There is ONE and only ONE minigun: the M134 (as currently produced by Dillon) anything else is a rotary barreled or gatling machine gun or cannon (depending on calibre), similarly the name Vulcan only applies to the M61 series.

Rotary barreled guns have only one real neice application either shooting at or from a small, rapidly moving and unstable vehicle i.e. shotting at aircraft and missiles or shooting from aircraft and (debatably) high speed small boats and fast attack vehicles. Rotary barreled guns are inherently less accurate than a fixed barrel gun, a major problem when you are using them in an surface to suface to role where the inaccuracy will largely waste all the hard work done by your stabilization system. However when dealing with small, unstable and fast moving platforms you actually want a bit of spread.

For shooting at tanks you could, for a similar size and weight of a rotary barrel gun, fit a larger calibre, more powerful and more accurate gun that might actually stand a chance against main armor faces of the target.

One other issue you appear to be neglecting is that American style rotary barrel guns all need a substancial external power source to actually drive them and with weapons large than the .50 cal GAU-19 don't actually use belt feeding but a powered linkless feed.

Pandemicia:

Your choice of rifle really depends on your army's training and doctrine.

Looking at your down selection we can take the AK-47 off the list as it was only ever a prototype. The service rifle was simply the AK and it would be more likely that you would be using at the very least the 1950s modernised AKM or more proabably one of the 7.62x39mm AK-100 series rifles. Using either Ak series options is fine if you deploy massed infantry and where the rifle is very much subordiante to the many supporting weapons available in the squad (an RPK (or 2), a PKM (or 2), an RPG (or 2) and a Draganov).
If however you emphasise indivdiual marksmanship and the "every man is a rifleman" approach then the FN-FAl is the better choice. Neither appraoch is right or wrong and just reflect different approachs to warfare. I would think long and hard about the make up, style and history of your nation and its armed forces and how each rifle would fit that.

Or of curse you could take the scientific appraoch and use FN-FALs chambered for .280 british

[Russanland]

Sidearm:

MK-10

Stock removable.

Holds 9mm or 45mm rounds.

[Questers]

I use what is essentially an FN-FAL chambered for .30-06 because all these NS nations running around with advanced body armour won't know what the fuck has hit them. I also have it in .458 SOCOM for SOF.

Also, bringing http://wikistates.outwardhosting.com/wi ... gecote_FHC back into service for non-riflemen. >_>

[Ocasnia]

Updated assault rifle:
Now showed with magasine and longer stock

Well, i hope it works now

[Dimoniquid]

Updated assault rifle:
Now showed with magasine and longer stock

Well, i hope it works now

It is a fair gun, but the only thing that bothers me is the case around the received and pistol grip - why is it there?

[Dimoniquid]

Sidearm:

MK-10

Stock removable.

Can hold 9mm or .45 ACP rounds.

Nice

[Ocasnia]

Updated assault rifle:
Now showed with magasine and longer stock

Well, i hope it works now

It is a fair gun, but the only thing that bothers me is the case around the received and pistol grip - why is it there?

Because you can turn a small blade out of the case with a button, so you can use melee.