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by Von Amerika » Sun Aug 15, 2010 8:02 pm




by Kanotrak » Sun Aug 15, 2010 8:13 pm
Anemos Major wrote:The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:Gwrachbyd wrote:
would that be such a bad thing, granted they won't be able to hold out during a stand up fight but when you can pin your enemy down at twice their effective range it makes it hard for them to fight back. used with the right tactics an army of snipers would devistate most infanty formations. the problem is when it comes to urban warfare where ranges are measured in at most tens of metres. so as long as he's not planning to fight in any built up areas he'd stand a chance. just remember if you're ever going to attack him to stay in the cities where all his advantages will be thrown out the window lol
Your forces would be raped in CQB. The attachments would make your guns heavy and cumbersome. Also you can kill enemy soldiers at whatever range you want, but once you get into the 100 meter and under range your scopes and bipods will just get in the way. Even my National Militia has started using Questers' shortened version of the FGR chambered in 8x65mm Anglo for CQB.
Guys, I went through this with him at the top of this page.

by North Mack » Sun Aug 15, 2010 9:32 pm

by Itailian Maifias » Sun Aug 15, 2010 9:53 pm

by The Nuclear Fist » Sun Aug 15, 2010 10:27 pm
And you touch the distant beaches with tales of brave Ulysses. . .Farnhamia wrote:You're getting a little too fond of the jerkoff motions.

by Indeos » Sun Aug 15, 2010 11:17 pm
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Name: LS-2 'Bastard Gun'
Manufacturer: Red Star Armaments(RSA)
Cartridge: 6.5 Grendel
Action: Gas operated, rotating bolt
Rate of fire: 750-800 rounds per minute
Length: 905 - 985 mm with 406 mm barrel/35.6" - 38.8" with 16" barrel
Weight: 9 lb
Barrel Length: 406mm
Automatic/Semi automatic
Effective range: 800m
Maximum Range: 1200 yards
Magazine: 32 rounds
Side notes: Stock is detachable. Grenade launcher is not standard, nor is scope. Comes with '3 hair' ironsights.
OOC: Yes I know it looks like crap. I made it at 4:00 in the morning.

by Mikedor » Mon Aug 16, 2010 3:53 am
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
I think Kivigrad is right, but 12 rpm seems far too high, I think 4-8 would be more realistic. Also why even include the rate of fire for a musket, it is like including the rate of fire for a bolt action rifle, or a lever action rifle, it depends on the user.

by Satirius » Mon Aug 16, 2010 7:36 am

by Mikedor » Mon Aug 16, 2010 9:09 am
Satirius wrote:Straight-pull bolt-action rifle, used until 1950:
http://a.imageshack.us/img7/6738/y897.png

by Krakadarek » Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:11 pm

by Satirius » Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:16 pm
Mikedor wrote:Satirius wrote:Straight-pull bolt-action rifle, used until 1950:
http://a.imageshack.us/img7/6738/y897.png
needs moar magazine.
Cock on closing or opening?

by The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:16 pm
Krakadarek wrote:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=63019&hilit=urban
http://img72.imageshack.us/f/fleshgrinder.jpg/
Comments?

by Satirius » Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:17 pm
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:Krakadarek wrote:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=63019&hilit=urban
http://img72.imageshack.us/f/fleshgrinder.jpg/
Comments?
What purpose could it ever serve? It is useless at any long ranges, making it useless as an LMG, and it is far too long to ever use in CQB, where shotguns are generally used as entry weapons.

by The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:19 pm
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
Name: AAS-98 (Automatic Assault Shotgun 1998)
Manufacturer: Yorktown Armaments
Year: 1998
Length: 850mm
Barrel Length: 430mm
Weight: 3.8 kg unloaded
Action: Lever Delayed Blowback
Rate of Fire: 1,200 RPM
Cartridge: 28 gauge
Feed System: 15 round magazine, or 50 round drum
Cost: $930
$125 for USSSFTA-02
DPRs: $930 million
$125 million for USSSFTA-02
History
The AAS-98 was developed in the late 90's as an export rifle which would be marketed to foreign nations as an assault shotgun. The goal of the AAS was to be a fully automatic shotgun with the ability to put out enough lead to clear out a room in only a few seconds regardless of the number of people defending it. The first problem in designing the AAS-98 was the decision over which size shell to use, some people in Yorktown Armaments proposed a 10 gauge shell, other proposed 12, 20, and 28 gauge shells. In the end, it was decided that a 28 gauge shell would be much easier to control on full auto, and it was decided to chamber the AAS-98 in 28 gauge. The first prototype of the AAs-98 was finished in 1996 and after 15 months of testing, and modification, mass production began in early 1998. In 2010, Yorktown Armaments made a deal with The Royal Britannian Arms Manufacturing Co., where by RBAM would produce and sell the AAS-98 with Yorktown Armaments receiving 50% of all profits.
Design
The AAS-98 operates on a lever delayed blowback system, where leverage is used to delay the opening of the breech. The cartridge fired by the AAS-98 is a 28 gauge shotgun shell, offered in shot, slugs, and flechettes. The very high rate of fire allows the shooter to put out hundreds of projectiles in one second, allowing even armoured targets to be killed by random shot hitting the face and other unarmoured parts of the body. In the event that the user wishes to penetrate body armour, then the option exists to use shells loaded with 4 tungsten flechettes, or a solid slug, both of which are capable of bringing down armoured targets.
Under-slung flamethrower
As well as regular attachments such as bayonets, under-slung shotguns, and under-slung grenade launchers, the AAS-98 has an unusual attachment in the form of a one shot flame thrower. The AAS-98 can have the USSSFTA-02 (Under-Slung Single Shot Flame Thrower Attachment 2002.) As the long form of its name suggests, the USSSFTA-02 is a rail attached under-slung flame thrower, with a small tank, only capable of one or two short bursts. The main role of the USSSFTA-02 is to be used in assaulting bunkers, where the user simply inserts the nozzle into a opening in the bunker, and uses his one shot to roast the occupants alive. The USSSFTA-02 has a maximum range of 10 meters, and can be fired for 3 seconds straight. The fuel and pressurized gas tank combined weigh 10.5 kg, and are small enough for a soldier to carry one or two extra tanks.

by Krakadarek » Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:20 pm
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:Krakadarek wrote:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=63019&hilit=urban
http://img72.imageshack.us/f/fleshgrinder.jpg/
Comments?
What purpose could it ever serve? It is useless at any long ranges, making it useless as an LMG, and it is far too long to ever use in CQB, where shotguns are generally used as entry weapons.

by The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:21 pm
New Nicksyllvania wrote:The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:Krakadarek wrote:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=63019&hilit=urban
http://img72.imageshack.us/f/fleshgrinder.jpg/
Comments?
What purpose could it ever serve? It is useless at any long ranges, making it useless as an LMG, and it is far too long to ever use in CQB, where shotguns are generally used as entry weapons.
Moar length for CQB, bayonets man bayonets

by Krakadarek » Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:23 pm
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:New Nicksyllvania wrote:The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:Krakadarek wrote:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=63019&hilit=urban
http://img72.imageshack.us/f/fleshgrinder.jpg/
Comments?
What purpose could it ever serve? It is useless at any long ranges, making it useless as an LMG, and it is far too long to ever use in CQB, where shotguns are generally used as entry weapons.
Moar length for CQB, bayonets man bayonets
1.4 meters? It literally will be bumping into something every time you turn a corner. If you want it to be manly long, make it a short rifle with a 700mm long bayonet or something.

by The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:26 pm
Krakadarek wrote:The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:New Nicksyllvania wrote:The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:Krakadarek wrote:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=63019&hilit=urban
http://img72.imageshack.us/f/fleshgrinder.jpg/
Comments?
What purpose could it ever serve? It is useless at any long ranges, making it useless as an LMG, and it is far too long to ever use in CQB, where shotguns are generally used as entry weapons.
Moar length for CQB, bayonets man bayonets
1.4 meters? It literally will be bumping into something every time you turn a corner. If you want it to be manly long, make it a short rifle with a 700mm long bayonet or something.
It wont bump into anything if you lift it when exiting a building.
And they are mostly used to blast through walls with steel slugs.
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
Name: AAS-98 (Automatic Assault Shotgun 1998)
Manufacturer: Yorktown Armaments
Year: 1998
Length: 850mm
Barrel Length: 430mm
Weight: 3.8 kg unloaded
Action: Lever Delayed Blowback
Rate of Fire: 1,200 RPM
Cartridge: 28 gauge
Feed System: 15 round magazine, or 50 round drum
Cost: $930
$125 for USSSFTA-02
DPRs: $930 million
$125 million for USSSFTA-02
History
The AAS-98 was developed in the late 90's as an export rifle which would be marketed to foreign nations as an assault shotgun. The goal of the AAS was to be a fully automatic shotgun with the ability to put out enough lead to clear out a room in only a few seconds regardless of the number of people defending it. The first problem in designing the AAS-98 was the decision over which size shell to use, some people in Yorktown Armaments proposed a 10 gauge shell, other proposed 12, 20, and 28 gauge shells. In the end, it was decided that a 28 gauge shell would be much easier to control on full auto, and it was decided to chamber the AAS-98 in 28 gauge. The first prototype of the AAs-98 was finished in 1996 and after 15 months of testing, and modification, mass production began in early 1998. In 2010, Yorktown Armaments made a deal with The Royal Britannian Arms Manufacturing Co., where by RBAM would produce and sell the AAS-98 with Yorktown Armaments receiving 50% of all profits.
Design
The AAS-98 operates on a lever delayed blowback system, where leverage is used to delay the opening of the breech. The cartridge fired by the AAS-98 is a 28 gauge shotgun shell, offered in shot, slugs, and flechettes. The very high rate of fire allows the shooter to put out hundreds of projectiles in one second, allowing even armoured targets to be killed by random shot hitting the face and other unarmoured parts of the body. In the event that the user wishes to penetrate body armour, then the option exists to use shells loaded with 4 tungsten flechettes, or a solid slug, both of which are capable of bringing down armoured targets.
Under-slung flamethrower
As well as regular attachments such as bayonets, under-slung shotguns, and under-slung grenade launchers, the AAS-98 has an unusual attachment in the form of a one shot flame thrower. The AAS-98 can have the USSSFTA-02 (Under-Slung Single Shot Flame Thrower Attachment 2002.) As the long form of its name suggests, the USSSFTA-02 is a rail attached under-slung flame thrower, with a small tank, only capable of one or two short bursts. The main role of the USSSFTA-02 is to be used in assaulting bunkers, where the user simply inserts the nozzle into a opening in the bunker, and uses his one shot to roast the occupants alive. The USSSFTA-02 has a maximum range of 10 meters, and can be fired for 3 seconds straight. The fuel and pressurized gas tank combined weigh 10.5 kg, and are small enough for a soldier to carry one or two extra tanks.

by Krakadarek » Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:28 pm
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:Krakadarek wrote:The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:New Nicksyllvania wrote:The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:Krakadarek wrote:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=63019&hilit=urban
http://img72.imageshack.us/f/fleshgrinder.jpg/
Comments?
What purpose could it ever serve? It is useless at any long ranges, making it useless as an LMG, and it is far too long to ever use in CQB, where shotguns are generally used as entry weapons.
Moar length for CQB, bayonets man bayonets
1.4 meters? It literally will be bumping into something every time you turn a corner. If you want it to be manly long, make it a short rifle with a 700mm long bayonet or something.
It wont bump into anything if you lift it when exiting a building.
And they are mostly used to blast through walls with steel slugs.
Even if you fire from the hip the rifle will be effectively about 1.2 meters long, still freakishly long, also, why are you shooting through buildings with infantry weapons? If your buildings were made out of glass it would make sense, since you could see the people behind walls, but a long, heavy shotgun designed only for firing slugs through walls is painfully over specialized, and a great way to piss off logistics officers, and the poor saps carrying those guns.

by Ramsetia » Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:29 pm
Krakadarek wrote:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=63019&hilit=urban
http://img72.imageshack.us/f/fleshgrinder.jpg/
Comments?

by Satirius » Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:32 pm

by The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:34 pm
Krakadarek wrote:The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:Krakadarek wrote:The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:New Nicksyllvania wrote:The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:Krakadarek wrote:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=63019&hilit=urban
http://img72.imageshack.us/f/fleshgrinder.jpg/
Comments?
What purpose could it ever serve? It is useless at any long ranges, making it useless as an LMG, and it is far too long to ever use in CQB, where shotguns are generally used as entry weapons.
Moar length for CQB, bayonets man bayonets
1.4 meters? It literally will be bumping into something every time you turn a corner. If you want it to be manly long, make it a short rifle with a 700mm long bayonet or something.
It wont bump into anything if you lift it when exiting a building.
And they are mostly used to blast through walls with steel slugs.
Even if you fire from the hip the rifle will be effectively about 1.2 meters long, still freakishly long, also, why are you shooting through buildings with infantry weapons? If your buildings were made out of glass it would make sense, since you could see the people behind walls, but a long, heavy shotgun designed only for firing slugs through walls is painfully over specialized, and a great way to piss off logistics officers, and the poor saps carrying those guns.
Our civil war proves they just tear people apart.
And it has a long range for a shotgun.

by Austria-russia » Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:39 pm
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