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How does your nation conduct Border Patrol?

Postby New Pebble Island » Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:53 pm

Say there was a nation to the south of you that was run by dictators and drug lords and had one of the biggest wealth gaps in the World, and people really liked the idea of your country and snuck across the border all of the time, how would you react?

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Postby Marcdonia Empire » Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:12 pm

Well considering I am that country they want to escape. I simply do no tallow it. Electric fences keep my people in. #Swaaaag

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Postby Zirekath » Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:22 pm

My country is very patriotic and does not like the idea of illegals constantly trying to force their way in. Though we do sympathize with them, we like to keep our nation pure and its citizenry genuine. Even if we did allow them into our home, they would most likely be thrown into the "gutters" of Zirekath, left to fend for themselves. Unless, of course, they agree to serve in our military for a few years and become a Zirekathian.
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Postby Saurisisia » Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:41 pm

We'd enforce a strict border control policy and encourage the people of the neighboring state to come in legally.
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Postby Chernobyl-Pripyat » Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:45 pm

The border is relatively easy to sneak into, but there are few settlements in border regions, and out in rural areas there are electrified fences and/or landmines. Near populated areas there are normal crossing points. Generally we would not care much, since the second they are requested to show documentation, lacking a Soviet passport (or one of their country with entry stamps), they would immediately be deported.
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Postby Varusea » Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:46 pm

We've got the Omega Contingency, which is a policy on immigration that only allows those on vacation or with government authorization to enter. Considering we're surrounded by water, we'd probably use the fact that we are in the middle of the Atlantic, and our superior Air Force, Navy and Coast Guard to protect our borders.

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Postby Xekliv » Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:46 pm

Xekliv takes up the entire continent of Antarctica so there are no bordering nations.

But if there were some who tried to sneak into our nation:

1. We have an EMP field around Xekliv which disables any type of technology that goes in or out, and works as a forcefield to organics. How do WE get in and out, you ask? There are massive gates dotted across the borders of our nation, which will only be opened to Xeklivians, Equestirans, basically any sentient non-human there is.

2. The borders are patrolled at all times by guards, drones, and aircraft.

3. All Xeklivians have gray skin. If a human were to sneak into our nation he'd stick out like a sore thumb.
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Postby Rukovia » Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:47 pm

We would build outposts, guard posts, barbed fence and make a large clearing just outside the barbed fence all along the border.
Very similar to what is between North and South Korea.

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Postby Christen » Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:52 pm

The entire border of Christian Republic the Christen is surrounded by a razor wire fence and is routinely patrolled by the Christenian Army.

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Postby Stalinst Britain » Mon Jun 04, 2012 3:00 pm

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Do to national security we won't tell outsiders how our nation conducts Border Patrol.
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Postby TurtleShroom » Mon Jun 04, 2012 3:14 pm

Saurisisia wrote:We'd enforce a strict border control policy and encourage the people of the neighboring state to come in legally.

^ -and there you have it, gentlemen.

TurtleShroomian immigration is summed up in one sentence: "File, or file out."

If illegal immigration in any one stretch of border becomes to great, that usually leads to the erection of a colossa wall, as was done in the far northwestern corner of the country.
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Postby Austerland » Mon Jun 04, 2012 3:26 pm

We would do nothing, because they would not get across the border in the first place.

After being invaded twice by a race of nomadic xenos over the course of three hundred years, the imperial border was fortified beyond belief and a force of six thousand ships (60% of our navy) was was deployed to a series of defensive points along it called marches. When a ship which does not carry a valid identification beacon gets near to the marches it is automatically pulled out of Hyperspace/Warp and bordered, and those that do are subjected to a thorough scan for drugs, weapons and other illegal items.
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Postby Agrincourt » Mon Jun 04, 2012 3:30 pm

If there was a country that was really bad, with low HDI and as you mentioned before, massive wealth gaps and so on, then we take it as quite reasonable for them to immigrate to our nation, where the HDI is high, the GDP is high, and the general living standard is also high. We would encourage them to immigrate to our country and even if our Border Patrol was to find any illegal immigrants we'd let them in anyway, as long as we are sure they would contribute to the economy in some way.. and after five years, they can apply for citizenship.

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Postby Sidhae » Mon Jun 04, 2012 3:54 pm

Minefields, combat drones and death squads of sadistic psychopaths with orders to shoot on sight usually do the trick.

Not that penniless refugees were able to afford an interstellar transport to take them here, presuming anyone was deranged enough to even try.
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Postby Beringovia » Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:18 pm

The short answer is: It depends. If it were a country which we share a strong cultural and linguistic affinity (meaning, in our case, that it is Slavic) we would probably encourage immigration. However, if we start to experience social problems (such as an increase in crime or drug use) within the immigrant communities, there would likely be a public backlash which would result in calls for more restrictions on immigration. If it is a non-slavic country, there would already be strong restrictions on immigration in place.

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Postby Soviet Putinland » Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:21 pm

We have a fence and a few guardposts spread about already, We would just repeat that on the border of said country. Besides nobody would get anywhere here without proper identification, Something a illegal would not have. Therefore they would either get caught and deported or stay hidden and suffer.
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Postby Sagatagan » Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:23 pm

We have adequate methods of legal entry and immigration; the only reason anyone would need to sneak across the border is if they were smuggling something. But, we have pretty much no controlled substances, and the cost of setting up a smuggling operation is generally higher than the cost of just paying the tariff we impose on certain goods, so... yeah, this is not a problem for us. The wall at the DMZ is to keep an invading army out, not refugees and immigrants.
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Postby Constarus » Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:34 pm

We have a wall. It'd be really hard to get into the country without going through customs, unless you can figure out a way to get over that wall without getting caught. Even if they did get into the country... I'd be really obvious that they came in illegally because they wouldn't be wearing a Constarusian ID card.

It'd really be a lot easier for them to come in legally anyways. We have no problem with people coming into Constarus as long as they follow proper procedures.
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Postby Hibernion (Ancient) » Mon Jun 04, 2012 5:56 pm

We are an island, but if we did have a nation bordering us, we would have a secret police force patrolling the borders and check all who cross for drug and criminal records.
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Postby Lukquarel » Mon Jun 04, 2012 6:16 pm

Our nation is surrounded by a massive, 20 foot high concrete wall, that is 2 feet thick. There is no possible way to get into our country, unless you go through customs, which is a 2 hour process. As we know of, no illegal things have ever gone into our nation, as our border officers are fantastic. Although you may think the 2 hour process is a bit much for people to actually want to get in here for the day, you're wrong. Since Lukquarel is so awesome and fun, over 27,900 people come into our country for the day (mostly because the counties that our visitors live in suck. All the nations we border are terrible, and impoverished).
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Postby Awesomeland » Mon Jun 04, 2012 6:50 pm

New Pebble Island wrote:Say there was a nation to the south of you that was run by dictators and drug lords and had one of the biggest wealth gaps in the World, and people really liked the idea of your country and snuck across the border all of the time, how would you react?
This happens. We don't do anything at all about it. You can just walk right across. We have a few watchtowers here and there, but they're just looking out for things like invading armies, and just sort of ignore the random immigrants and tourists. What right-thinking individual could possibly object to a readily-available source of cheap domestic labor, anyway? It's either that or all your jobs get outsourced to Outer Elbonia. Slaves. You can never have too many slaves.

Plus, "doing nothing" is incredibly cheap to maintain. Who wants to put tax money towards patrolling borders, when this will only raise your costs?

Lukquarel wrote:Our nation is surrounded by a massive, 20 foot high concrete wall, that is 2 feet thick. There is no possible way to get into our country, unless you go through customs, which is a 2 hour process. As we know of, no illegal things have ever gone into our nation, as our border officers are fantastic.
Heh, really? You guys actually believe that? You've never heard of ropes and shovels? And NO one has ever gone through? And your border officers are fantastic? This sounds to me like either they are incompetent and writing their own evaluations in a circle-jerk of back-patting, or are blatantly corrupt (and doing the same thing).

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Postby Maraque » Mon Jun 04, 2012 6:53 pm

The country to our west was annihilated via a nuclear holocaust, so there aren't many people coming across our land borders now a days.

If there were, we wouldn't do a thing. We've maintained open borders since foundation.
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Postby Swilatia » Mon Jun 04, 2012 7:04 pm

Well, actually the country to our south (Frinistia) is mostly lifeless desert, and it's run by religious nutters who probably qualify as dictators, but not so much as drug lords. Besides, we have the better drugs right here, it's completely legal and regulated, so it's actually a mostly clean business. There are of course lots of people who'd rather not live in such a place, and they are welcomed in Swilatia.
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Postby Atalem » Mon Jun 04, 2012 7:11 pm

We're mostly surrounded by mountains, our population is declining, most of our land is steppe or desert, and to even get in by land, they'd have to carve a swath through several nomadic hordes.

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Postby Dagnia » Mon Jun 04, 2012 7:59 pm

The space around our solar system is monitored and anyone coming in unannounced is escorted and questioned. Our borders are relatively open to any travellers, but you do have to tell us why you are coming and how long you are staying.
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