NS Military Realism Consultation Thread #2

[Galla-]

Western European whites have been about as accepting of Slavs being white as Americans have been of Hispanics also being white.

But...
Slavs actually are white.

Once you start getting a few lat/long lines away from Scandinavia, the whiteness drops considerably below tolerable. About as far south as you want to go is France, and as far East as the Polish-German border.

Italians, Spainards, and Poles are all debatable as far as whiteness goes.

[Samozaryadnyastan]

Italians and Spaniards are all from the med, of course they're olive skinned.
Though I had genuinely believed it was genetic pigment change due to the massive sun exposure.

[Liugark]

But...
Slavs actually are white.

Once you start getting a few lat/long lines away from Scandinavia, the whiteness drops considerably below tolerable. About as far south as you want to go is France, and as far East as the Polish-German border.

Italians, Spainards, and Poles are all debatable as far as whiteness goes.

What defines whiteness ?´

Honest curious.

[Ularn]

Once you start getting a few lat/long lines away from Scandinavia, the whiteness drops considerably below tolerable. About as far south as you want to go is France, and as far East as the Polish-German border.

Italians, Spainards, and Poles are all debatable as far as whiteness goes.

What defines whiteness ?´

Honest curious.

Rednecks and Hitler

[Liugark]

What defines whiteness ?´

Honest curious.

Rednecks and Hitler

Okay,cool.

Lol.

[Galla-]

Once you start getting a few lat/long lines away from Scandinavia, the whiteness drops considerably below tolerable. About as far south as you want to go is France, and as far East as the Polish-German border.

Italians, Spainards, and Poles are all debatable as far as whiteness goes.

What defines whiteness ?´

Honest curious.

I1 haplogroup.

Which is most Britons, most Scandinavians, quite a few Finns, some French, some Germans, and a smattering of other places.

[Liugark]

What defines whiteness ?´

Honest curious.

I1 haplogroup.

But isn´t Europe that mixed that it is hard to define ?

I mean you can´t test every person of an ethnicity and say that he definetly fits into this and this bloodgroup.

[Galla-]

I1 haplogroup.

But isn´t Europe that mixed that it is hard to define ?

It requires a genetic test to determine your haplogroup, but not really. Haplogroup I is what you would consider "white".

[Liugark]

But isn´t Europe that mixed that it is hard to define ?

It requires a genetic test to determine your haplogroup, but not really. Haplogroup I is what you would consider "white".

Hm,that sounds still flawed.Why don´t you categorise ethnicities after their Bloodgroup,instead of calling them "White".White sounds
very unspecific.

For Example Spain....

The Iberian Peninsula was invaded and occupied and still is home to a lot of Berber-Arabs and mixes between those and Iberians.
You have Basques and so on.Would you just call them all Hispanic if they (theoretically) were of the same blood group ?´

[Galla-]

It requires a genetic test to determine your haplogroup, but not really. Haplogroup I is what you would consider "white".

Hm,that sounds still flawed.Why don´t you categorise ethnicities after their Bloodgroup,instead of calling them "White".White sounds
very unspecific.

White is not an ethnicity.

[Liugark]

Hm,that sounds still flawed.Why don´t you categorise ethnicities after their Bloodgroup,instead of calling them "White".White sounds
very unspecific.

White is not an ethnicity.

And that is my problem with so many people just categorising other people after their skincolour,its just unspecific.

[Ularn]

White is not an ethnicity.

And that is my problem with so many people just categorising other people after their skincolour,its just unspecific.

Also, bloodgroup is similarly non-specific. I'm a red-haired, hazel eyed white man with O+ blood. There are also plenty of O+ blacks and hispanics. It's the most common blood type in the world and is not race-specific, nor is any other blood group.

[Kouralia]

And that is my problem with so many people just categorising other people after their skincolour,its just unspecific.

Also, bloodgroup is similarly non-specific. I'm a red-haired, hazel eyed white man with O+ blood. There are also plenty of O+ blacks and hispanics. It's the most common blood type in the world and is not race-specific, nor is any other blood group.

You're not me, are you?

[Liugark]

And that is my problem with so many people just categorising other people after their skincolour,its just unspecific.

Also, bloodgroup is similarly non-specific. I'm a red-haired, hazel eyed white man with O+ blood. There are also plenty of O+ blacks and hispanics. It's the most common blood type in the world and is not race-specific, nor is any other blood group.

How do you categorise them then ?´

How do define someone as Basque ? As Berber ? As Wolof,Hausa or Oyo ?´

[Ularn]

Also, bloodgroup is similarly non-specific. I'm a red-haired, hazel eyed white man with O+ blood. There are also plenty of O+ blacks and hispanics. It's the most common blood type in the world and is not race-specific, nor is any other blood group.

How do you categorise them then ?´

With extreme difficulty, it would seem.

[Liugark]

How do you categorise them then ?´

With extreme difficulty, it would seem.

It must be something in the genetics.

While I have read up on many different and interesting ehtnicities and their culture I have barely touched the subject of Genetics itself,so I am really curious.

[Immoren]

On urelated note:
Should Forward Air Controller and Artillery Controler (IE forward observer) be two different persons or are they so similar jobs that one person could do both with eight months of training?
Or should calling down air strikes to be left to career soldiers?

[Bafuria]

And that is my problem with so many people just categorising other people after their skincolour,its just unspecific.

Also, bloodgroup is similarly non-specific. I'm a red-haired, hazel eyed white man with O+ blood. There are also plenty of O+ blacks and hispanics. It's the most common blood type in the world and is not race-specific, nor is any other blood group.

DEATH TO AB NEGATIVES D:<

[The Kievan People]

But...
Slavs actually are white.

Once you start getting a few lat/long lines away from Scandinavia, the whiteness drops considerably below tolerable. About as far south as you want to go is France, and as far East as the Polish-German border.

Italians, Spainards, and Poles are all debatable as far as whiteness goes.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... or_map.svg

Measuring skin color isn't exactly hard.

[Star Trek America]

Why in the dogshit are you discussing this in a completely wrong thread?

[Samozaryadnyastan]

Why in the dogshit are you discussing this in a completely wrong thread?

Fair point, I should probably demand some firearm fapping at this point.

[Liugark]

Sorry for all the off topic.

Interesting fact:

Timurids used all Iron Arrows against Elephants.

[Ularn]

Sorry for all the off topic.

Interesting fact:

Timurids used all Iron Arrows against Elephants.

How many arrows would it take to bring down an elephant?

[Liugark]

Sorry for all the off topic.

Interesting fact:

Timurids used all Iron Arrows against Elephants.

How many arrows would it take to bring down an elephant?

Some sources state that one Elephant survived over 100 (even though I dont know if these
were all iron or just normal arrows).

Very stubborn animals.

[Star Trek America]

Shoot it in the balls...That's always the answer.