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Postby The Soviet Technocracy » Thu Jun 09, 2011 1:28 pm

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Kendo is a martial art in the same way as boxing.

Unsuitable to actual combat, but it teaches the basics and prepares oneself physically and mentally.


Boxing is actually very effective on the street, against untrained and unarmed opponents.
In hand to hand combat on the battlefield though, it is inferior to more sophisticated and effective martial arts like Sambo or MCMAP.


Boxing isn't an all too effective form except in an arena. You might know how to punch and keep yourself on balance, but that is fuckall if you're on the ground and getting into a grapple.
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Thu Jun 09, 2011 1:33 pm

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The AK-74M, might be replaced.

Congratulations for not using the AK-47. Seriously, well done.
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Postby Anemos Major » Thu Jun 09, 2011 1:37 pm

Shipbucket = making my head hurt

I think I'll do a tech demonstrator with the AR9.

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Anemos Major wrote:Shipbucket = making my head hurt

I think I'll do a tech demonstrator with the AR9.

What is Shipbucket? Never used it before.
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Postby Oterro » Thu Jun 09, 2011 1:38 pm

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:
Anemos Major wrote:Shipbucket = making my head hurt

I think I'll do a tech demonstrator with the AR9.

What is Shipbucket? Never used it before.


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Postby The Soviet Technocracy » Thu Jun 09, 2011 1:39 pm

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Samozaryadnyastan wrote:What is Shipbucket? Never used it before.


A pale sailors shit in.


...so that's why they call it the poop deck
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Postby Adelphon Kuklos » Thu Jun 09, 2011 3:55 pm

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The Free White men of the Confedahcy ut'lise the French MAS-49 to keep the Yanks at the bo'dahs and the Niggers in line. While I don't much fancy the frogs, the MAS-49, known affectionately as "Massa" by our boys, has done it's work for the past fifty years and dun reckon there is much else out there that kin match it.
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Postby Galla- » Thu Jun 09, 2011 4:20 pm

Adelphon Kuklos wrote:(Image)
The Free White men of the Confedahcy ut'lise the French MAS-49 to keep the Yanks at the bo'dahs and the Niggers in line. While I don't much fancy the frogs, the MAS-49, known affectionately as "Massa" by our boys, has done it's work for the past fifty years and dun reckon there is much else out there that kin match it.


o/

49/56

7.62x51mm of hurt

o/
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Postby Munathanura » Thu Jun 09, 2011 4:38 pm

Belmotin wrote:I'm not very good at drawing and designing the specs of weapons etc. I barely understand it, so I usually buy or use RL stuff. I am careful though as Trackers say my budget is only 11 Million, but I don't want my nation to lose its socialist edge. So its difficult to decide what I can buy and how much. Price over quality.


Try something along the lines of the Type-81 assault rifle. It might look like a Chinese rip-off of the AKM, but it's more durable, more accurate, has less recoil and is just as reliable. Production cost is around $300-$400 if I remember correctly, which is pretty cheap, so it should work for your given budget.
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Postby Galla- » Thu Jun 09, 2011 4:38 pm

Altamirus wrote:
Galla- wrote:
o/

49/56

7.62x51mm of hurt

o/

Along with proving that DI can be reliable. o/


There is no question of DI's reliability.

It is the operator, not the user.

Run it wet, run it well.

I've learned this and have changed my opinion of it.
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Postby Munathanura » Thu Jun 09, 2011 4:52 pm

Hurtful Thoughts wrote:Monty-Python takes the stand:
Hurtful Thoughts wrote:The LAR-655E3.

The simplest ultra-compact armor-piercing bullpup you'll find on the market to ever pass muster in NS-Draftroom as a rifle capable of shooting holes into a Gundam Mobile-Suit.

Just litterally wave your arm at the target and squeeze the trigger, problem solved!

No safeties or fire-selectors to worry about, just retract the bolt, open the dust cover and you're good to go for semi-auto and fully-auto based on how hard you pull the trigger.

It's simply amazing!

BTW, grenade-launcher is fitted alongside the gun to be operated by the rear supporting-hand.

So do yourself a favor, get something that has withstood the test of time, pick up a Hurty and "Hurt em plenty" with it.

But don't take our word for it, take the words of the deleted trolls heaping praise on this glorious machine!



BTW: as noted, these things were meant to operate in the harsh winter climates associated with DMG by untrained simians, hence the lack of a trigger-gaurd as it was widely believed their fingers would fall-off from frostbite after only 5 days of fighting.

Alternately, this rifle can be used by limp-wristed armless child-conscript soldiers with speech impediments.


See link for more criticisms and details.


Have I ever mentioned that I love your rifle and its round? Because, if not, I do.
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Postby Soviet Haaregrad » Thu Jun 09, 2011 5:08 pm

Munathanura wrote:
Belmotin wrote:I'm not very good at drawing and designing the specs of weapons etc. I barely understand it, so I usually buy or use RL stuff. I am careful though as Trackers say my budget is only 11 Million, but I don't want my nation to lose its socialist edge. So its difficult to decide what I can buy and how much. Price over quality.


Try something along the lines of the Type-81 assault rifle. It might look like a Chinese rip-off of the AKM, but it's more durable, more accurate, has less recoil and is just as reliable. Production cost is around $300-$400 if I remember correctly, which is pretty cheap, so it should work for your given budget.


Type 81 is like if everything you like about the AK, SKS and SVD was combined in some sort of genetic experiment gone totally right.
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Postby Vingtor » Thu Jun 09, 2011 11:28 pm

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My seax!A workaday tool but we are prone to needlessly gussy them up.
For the Angel of Death spread his wings on the blast,
And breathed in the face of the foe as he passed;
And the eyes of the sleepers waxed deadly and chill,
And their hearts but once heaved, and for ever grew still!

The artiste that created that hunk of gourgeous in my flag box http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=148603

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Postby Vingtor » Thu Jun 09, 2011 11:30 pm

Adelphon Kuklos wrote:(Image)
The Free White men of the Confedahcy ut'lise the French MAS-49 to keep the Yanks at the bo'dahs and the Niggers in line. While I don't much fancy the frogs, the MAS-49, known affectionately as "Massa" by our boys, has done it's work for the past fifty years and dun reckon there is much else out there that kin match it.

She is a purty rifle, I tell you what.
For the Angel of Death spread his wings on the blast,
And breathed in the face of the foe as he passed;
And the eyes of the sleepers waxed deadly and chill,
And their hearts but once heaved, and for ever grew still!

The artiste that created that hunk of gourgeous in my flag box http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=148603

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Postby Vingtor » Thu Jun 09, 2011 11:32 pm

Soviet Haaregrad wrote:
Munathanura wrote:
Try something along the lines of the Type-81 assault rifle. It might look like a Chinese rip-off of the AKM, but it's more durable, more accurate, has less recoil and is just as reliable. Production cost is around $300-$400 if I remember correctly, which is pretty cheap, so it should work for your given budget.


Type 81 is like if everything you like about the AK, SKS and SVD was combined in some sort of genetic experiment gone totally right.


All at a price far below the nearest competitor, the SIG SG 550. To be far it is't the sports car of the the AK family like the 550.
For the Angel of Death spread his wings on the blast,
And breathed in the face of the foe as he passed;
And the eyes of the sleepers waxed deadly and chill,
And their hearts but once heaved, and for ever grew still!

The artiste that created that hunk of gourgeous in my flag box http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=148603

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Postby Anemos Major » Thu Jun 09, 2011 11:33 pm

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25mm airburst granatgewehr.

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Postby Vingtor » Thu Jun 09, 2011 11:35 pm

Damn man you trying to make me get slober on the keyboard?
For the Angel of Death spread his wings on the blast,
And breathed in the face of the foe as he passed;
And the eyes of the sleepers waxed deadly and chill,
And their hearts but once heaved, and for ever grew still!

The artiste that created that hunk of gourgeous in my flag box http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=148603

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Postby Munathanura » Thu Jun 09, 2011 11:49 pm

Anemos Major wrote:(Image)

25mm airburst granatgewehr.


Any chance that you're planning a buckshot round for it? I reckon you could get 20-30 pieces of 00 buckshot if you did it right.
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Postby Munathanura » Thu Jun 09, 2011 11:51 pm

Vingtor wrote:(Image)

My seax!A workaday tool but we are prone to needlessly gussy them up.


So you favour the broken back style? Nice, I like it!
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Caninope wrote:OMG, FBI does it's jobs and uses search warrants to recover stolen property. The world is ending.

Welcome to America, where the authorities can be doing too much and too little at the same god damn time.
Tahar Joblis wrote:Your "heartfelt recommendation," i.e., baseless accusation of misogyny, is noted with all the respect that is due. Which corresponds to that due a $100 billion Zimbabwean banknote. :eyebrow:
My Political Compass:
Economic Left/Right: -3.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.56

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Postby Vingtor » Fri Jun 10, 2011 12:28 am

Munathanura wrote:
Vingtor wrote:(Image)

My seax!A workaday tool but we are prone to needlessly gussy them up.


So you favour the broken back style? Nice, I like it!

Oh yeah. Theyy are like proto-Bowie knives that way.
For the Angel of Death spread his wings on the blast,
And breathed in the face of the foe as he passed;
And the eyes of the sleepers waxed deadly and chill,
And their hearts but once heaved, and for ever grew still!

The artiste that created that hunk of gourgeous in my flag box http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=148603

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Postby Munathanura » Fri Jun 10, 2011 12:40 am

Vingtor wrote:
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So you favour the broken back style? Nice, I like it!

Oh yeah. Theyy are like proto-Bowie knives that way.


Definitely. This is probably my favourite design, with a relatively subtle broken back and an nice, long blade. This one comes a close second, being more of a machete/poor man's sword.

Btw, what do the runes on your seax say?
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Welcome to America, where the authorities can be doing too much and too little at the same god damn time.
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Postby Anemos Major » Fri Jun 10, 2011 12:59 am

Munathanura wrote:Any chance that you're planning a buckshot round for it? I reckon you could get 20-30 pieces of 00 buckshot if you did it right.


I'd have to make some kind of close quarters round, or its squad applications will be far too limited.

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Postby Vingtor » Fri Jun 10, 2011 1:04 am

Munathanura wrote:
Vingtor wrote:Oh yeah. Theyy are like proto-Bowie knives that way.


Definitely. This is probably my favourite design, with a relatively subtle broken back and an nice, long blade. This one comes a close second, being more of a machete/poor man's sword.

Btw, what do the runes on your seax say?

First ones pretty but the second one looks, cheap, somehow. The runes on mine say Steadfast. The ones on my ax said Hard.
For the Angel of Death spread his wings on the blast,
And breathed in the face of the foe as he passed;
And the eyes of the sleepers waxed deadly and chill,
And their hearts but once heaved, and for ever grew still!

The artiste that created that hunk of gourgeous in my flag box http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=148603

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Postby Munathanura » Fri Jun 10, 2011 1:12 am

Anemos Major wrote:
Munathanura wrote:Any chance that you're planning a buckshot round for it? I reckon you could get 20-30 pieces of 00 buckshot if you did it right.


I'd have to make some kind of close quarters round, or its squad applications will be far too limited.


Do you have any ideas on how to avoid the whole "donut" pattern produced by the rifling? According to the Box 'O Truth, rifling really messes up your groupings.

Vingtor wrote:
Munathanura wrote:
Definitely. This is probably my favourite design, with a relatively subtle broken back and an nice, long blade. This one comes a close second, being more of a machete/poor man's sword.

Btw, what do the runes on your seax say?

First ones pretty but the second one looks, cheap, somehow. The runes on mine say Steadfast. The ones on my ax said Hard.


Well, yeah, it's supposed to look cheap. It's an authentic reproduction :P. From what I've read, once seaxes/Langsaxes reach that sort of length they're less back up weapons and more the poor man's version of a sword. Easier to make, relatively low quality but still capable of hacking your opponent to pieces.

And very good names for your weapons, very appropriate.
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Caninope wrote:OMG, FBI does it's jobs and uses search warrants to recover stolen property. The world is ending.

Welcome to America, where the authorities can be doing too much and too little at the same god damn time.
Tahar Joblis wrote:Your "heartfelt recommendation," i.e., baseless accusation of misogyny, is noted with all the respect that is due. Which corresponds to that due a $100 billion Zimbabwean banknote. :eyebrow:
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Postby Vingtor » Fri Jun 10, 2011 1:19 am

Munathanura wrote:
Well, yeah, it's supposed to look cheap. It's an authentic reproduction :P. From what I've read, once seaxes/Langsaxes reach that sort of length they're less back up weapons and more the poor man's version of a sword. Easier to make, relatively low quality but still capable of hacking your opponent to pieces.

And very good names for your weapons, very appropriate.


That sounds like a cop out to me. Especially the price they quoted. Thank you, but the runes are not the names of the weapons but the qualities that the owners hope to impart to them. Runes are magical when carved, see.
For the Angel of Death spread his wings on the blast,
And breathed in the face of the foe as he passed;
And the eyes of the sleepers waxed deadly and chill,
And their hearts but once heaved, and for ever grew still!

The artiste that created that hunk of gourgeous in my flag box http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=148603

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