MAIN MILITARY WEAPON OF YOUR COUNTRY (MK. II) P2

[The Ottish Empire]

YOU PLAYED GOD, DAMNIT!! YOUR PLAYED GOD!!

Mount that on an armored ATV (Like a Humvee) and it'll be perfect!

>:-/

What you meant to say was 'equip commandos, kill insurgents'.

Because Galla doesn't need stocks or handguards, I slightly revised the design to be more realistic and acceptable.

Its a little big to.... nevermind do whatever you like.

[Karaig]

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OH GOD

WHAT HAVE I DONE

Nice. You have class. The commando variant might need a light stock though.

[Anemos Major]

Nice. You have class. The commando variant might need a light stock though.

It's actually a modification to this:

which is derived from this:


It's all on my storefront, so if you want clarification, it's all there; I've already posted enough clutter on this thread.

[Ile-Perrot]

2 Long Range soldiers (Barrett, Scar-H, Spotter Gear)

Those are some truly athletic mofos.

[The Anglo-Saxon Empire]

2 Long Range soldiers (Barrett, Scar-H, Spotter Gear)

Those are some truly athletic mofos.

I am going to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume that one his a sniper with a barrett, and the other is a spotter with the SCAR-H and spotter gear. Although I will admit that his squads are pretty damn big and their equipment and division makes no sense.

[Galla-]

2 Long Range soldiers (Barrett, Scar-H, Spotter Gear)

Those are some truly athletic mofos.

Like most soldiers?

Marine snipers carry XM500s, M4 carbines, and sometimes sidearms in Iraq.

Those are some truly athletic mofos.

I am going to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume that one his a sniper with a barrett, and the other is a spotter with the SCAR-H and spotter gear. Although I will admit that his squads are pretty damn big and their equipment and division makes no sense.

Snipers carry carbines.

YOU PLAYED GOD, DAMNIT!! YOUR PLAYED GOD!!

Mount that on an armored ATV (Like a Humvee) and it'll be perfect!

>:-/

What you meant to say was 'equip commandos, kill insurgents'.

Because Galla doesn't need stocks or handguards, I slightly revised the design to be more realistic and acceptable.

heatshields are a sin

real men grip their gun by the hot barrel to complete the bond of a soldier and his rifle

through ad-hoc skin graft

tl;dr: o/

muzzle brake should have been more maadhi griffin tho ):

[The Anglo-Saxon Empire]

I am going to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume that one his a sniper with a barrett, and the other is a spotter with the SCAR-H and spotter gear. Although I will admit that his squads are pretty damn big and their equipment and division makes no sense.

Snipers carry carbines.

They generally don't carry a 7.62x51mm NATO carbine.

[Galla-]

Snipers carry carbines.

They generally don't carry a 7.62x51mm NATO carbine.

They should.

Mk. 17 CQC weighs less than an M16 empty.

They won't be complaining when hajji, doped up on opium and crack cocaine, drops in two hits after being hit by a .30 cal.

[The Confederate States of Amerika]

Primary Service Rifle - Fully Automatic Service Rifle - 5.56mm NATO - Model 16 Mk II

Primary Side Arm - Semi-Automatic Military Pistol - .38 Automatic Colt Pistol - Model 1902

[Galla-]

Primary Service Rifle - Fully Automatic Service Rifle - 5.56mm NATO - Model 16 Mk II

Primary Side Arm - Semi-Automatic Military Pistol - .38 Automatic Colt Pistol - Model 1902

that pistol makes me want to kill myself

[Munathanura]

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OH GOD

WHAT HAVE I DONE

Absolutely nothing wrong, and absolutely everything right .

MOAR GUNZ FOR TEH GUN THREAD
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Because we were straying slightly. Epically unfinished, that's only the Mk3, I normally don't post pics until like Mk7.

Something about it, quite apart from the lack of sights, seems off, and I think that it's that section on the handguard that rises up. It looks out of place to me, and it looks like part of it is coming up through the receiver.

[Amerikians]

Galla. Colt 1905 .38 is what led to the PERFECT that is the Colt M1911...Without it, we'd be lacking in awesome.

[Galla-]

Galla. Colt 1905 .38 is what led to the PERFECT that is the Colt M1911...Without it, we'd be lacking in awesome.

colt 1902 is fucking long

thus fail

[Amerikians]

Galla. Colt 1905 .38 is what led to the PERFECT that is the Colt M1911...Without it, we'd be lacking in awesome.

colt 1902 is fucking long

thus fail

...Your definition of fail varies from mine greatly, obv.

[Fischermann]

Already posted, updating now:

All militair personal have m1911
Standard Assault riffle is the M16, Scar-H/L being used too but less as they are more expansive.
Barrett .50 call for snipers
Spas-12 for shotgun
RPK for Heavy Firepower
FGM-148 Javelin as main AA/AT weapon
MP5K for silenced operations.

Basic Squad is:
16 Soldiers
1 Squad leader ("Sergeant")
1 Squad leader Assisant ('The Right Hand')
1 Sergeant Bodyguard
1 Radio/Intel member ('Vox Caster')
1 Medic
2 Long Range soldiers (Barrett, Scar-H, Spotter Gear)
2 Short Range soldiers (Spas-12, Scar-L)
1 Heavy (RPK)
1 Heavy sidekick (Target callout, you-know-what)
2 Regular + AA (M16 + Javelin)
3 Regular (M16/Scar-H + Extra Missle's/Ammo)

Another CoD Boy?

[Hai Tao]

Main military small arms are unlicensed copies chambered either for the 6.5x50 mm Arisaka or 7.62x25mm Tokarev

Main long arms are unlicensed versions of the FN-FAL and AKM in 6.5x50 mm Arisaka, small numbers of accuarised and scoped FN-FALs issued to snipers

GPMG is the MG 42 chambered for 6.5x50 mm Arisaka

LMG is the ZB vz. 27 chambered for 6.5x50 mm Arisaka

Main side arm is a copy of the TT-33 Tokarev pistol in 7.62x25mm Tokarev

Main sub machine gun is a copy of the AKM redesigned to chamber the 7.62x25mm Tokarev

Heavy machine gun is an almost exact copy of the British WWII era 15mm Besa

Although they have access to the above military small arms when encountered in everyday situations the People's Armed Police will most likely armed with lever action carbines and top break revolvers chambered for the .455 Webley round.

[Interstellar Britannia]

I ACTUALLY ISSUE COMMANDO MORTARS

A man's weapon:



There is, quite literally, no better weapon for the individual infantry platoon than the 60mm mortar.

I issue 3 57mm mortars each platoon

u jelly?

[Galla-]

colt 1902 is fucking long

thus fail

...Your definition of fail varies from mine greatly, obv.

makes hi speed low drag quick release fast draw offensive handgun tactical weapon systems cry because of longness

A man's weapon:

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There is, quite literally, no better weapon for the individual infantry platoon than the 60mm mortar.

I issue 3 57mm mortars each platoon

u jelly?

one 60mm commando mortar to 12-man infantry squads

so nt rly we think alike D:

[Interstellar Britannia]

...Your definition of fail varies from mine greatly, obv.

makes hi speed low drag quick release fast draw offensive handgun tactical weapon systems cry because of longness

I issue 3 57mm mortars each platoon

u jelly?

one 60mm commando mortar to 12-man infantry squads

so nt rly we think alike D:

All three mortars are concentrated in a single squadron with Platoon Sergeant in order to prevent rifle squads from deciding to sit on their ass and guard the mortars instead of engaging the enemy with the bayonet.

Platoon Commander- Subaltern - Sword, Pistol
Platoon Sergeant - Sergeant - Rifle, Pistol
Batman - Private - Rifle
Orderly - Private - Rifle, Folding Bicycle
Bandsman - Private - Rifle, Trumpet
Mortar Gunner (3) - Private - Rifle, 57mm Grenade projector
Mortarman (3) - Private - Rifle

Rifle Section (3) each
Section Commander - Corporal - Rifle
Second-in-command - Lance-corporal - Rifle
Automatic Rifleman (2) - Private - Automatic Rifle
Rifleman (8) - Private - Rifle

[Estainia]

...Your definition of fail varies from mine greatly, obv.

makes hi speed low drag quick release fast draw offensive handgun tactical weapon systems cry because of longness

You do realise that it was manufactured, invented and designed before that term even existed, right?

[Interstellar Britannia]

makes hi speed low drag quick release fast draw offensive handgun tactical weapon systems cry because of longness

You do realise that it was manufactured, invented and designed before that term even existed, right?

Technically all of those adjectives existed in 1907

[Munathanura]

Already posted, updating now:

All militair personal have m1911
Standard Assault riffle is the M16, Scar-H/L being used too but less as they are more expansive.
Barrett .50 call for snipers
Spas-12 for shotgun
RPK for Heavy Firepower
FGM-148 Javelin as main AA/AT weapon
MP5K for silenced operations.

Basic Squad is:
16 Soldiers
1 Squad leader ("Sergeant")
1 Squad leader Assisant ('The Right Hand')
1 Sergeant Bodyguard
1 Radio/Intel member ('Vox Caster')
1 Medic
2 Long Range soldiers (Barrett, Scar-H, Spotter Gear)
2 Short Range soldiers (Spas-12, Scar-L)
1 Heavy (RPK)
1 Heavy sidekick (Target callout, you-know-what)
2 Regular + AA (M16 + Javelin)
3 Regular (M16/Scar-H + Extra Missle's/Ammo)

Assault Rifles

What you should do here is issue one kind of assault rifle to the entire squad, rather than issuing 2 assault rifles and one battle rifle. If you want to RP the gradual phasing in of the Scar, then choose one version (L or H) and gradually issue it to front line units, completely replacing the M16s there, while the rear units maintain the M16. In my opinion, that rifle would would most likely be the Scar-L, possibly chambered in a lulzy NS designed 6.5mm round, although the Scar-H, possibly chambered in something like the 7x46mm UIAC, is still a viable option.

Sniper Rifle

You'd be better off giving your "snipers" a DMR or sniper rifle chambered in .338 Lapua, because not only is the Barrett bulky and heavy, but its ammunition is bulky and heavy as well. This means that your squad sniper can carry more ammunition, move faster and engage more targets than they could if they were using a .50 calibre sniper rifle.

Shotgun

From what I've read, the Spas-12 is heavy and relatively unreliable. I'd suggest going with something like the Benelli M4 if you want a pump/semi-auto shotgun or, if you really want to be different, use a shotgun based on the AAI CAWS.

Machinegun

I see no problems with using a PKM converted to a rimless round (aka the UKM-2000), except that the ammunition will be heavier and more limited than if you were using a smaller, intermediate round. Still, each to his own and, given that my puppet uses a PKM chambered in 8x57mm IS, it would be hypocritical of my to say that you shouldn't us it . Still, if you want your soldiers to be able to carry more ammunition, a LMG based on the PKM and chambered in an intermediate round (preferably the same as what you chamber your rifles in) is a good choice.

Anti-Armour

Using a Javelin here is not a good idea. It's heavy, the rockets are very expensive and it's more suited for a company or battalion level dedicated AT team. A squad should really have no more than a M72 LAW/RPG-7 style weapon (including the SMAW), or a Carl Gustav style recoiless rifle. If you need any more firepower, you should call in artillery support, an airstrike or radio the nearest AT team and get them to take it out.

Team Structure

You have a lot of people in your squad, more than you realistically need. You're also lacking when in firepower, having only one MG. Apart from there being no redundancies in firepower, it also means that if your squad has to split up for any reason (flanking the enemy, fire and manoeuvre, etc), one fireteam isn't going to be able to suppress the enemy as effectively as the other.

Suggestions

Here are my suggestions for your squad's structure and load out:

9 Man Squad

- Squad leader (Sergeant, Scar-L)
- Squad 2IC (Corporal, Scar-L)
- Radio Operator (Scar-L, radio)
- 2 grenadiers (Scar-L, M203/M320, LAW)
- 2 gunners (Converted PKM)
- 2 DMR (Scar-L Long/Scar-H Long)

11 Man Squad

- Squad leader (Sergeant, Scar-L)
- Squad 2IC (Corporal, Scar-L)
- Radio Operator (Scar-L, Radio)
- 2 grenadiers (Scar-L, M203/M320)
- 2 Riflemen (Scar-L, LAW, Extra MG ammo)
- 2 gunners (Converted PKM)
- 2 DMR (Scar-L Long/Scar-H Long)

[Galla-]

makes hi speed low drag quick release fast draw offensive handgun tactical weapon systems cry because of longness



one 60mm commando mortar to 12-man infantry squads

so nt rly we think alike D:

All three mortars are concentrated in a single squadron with Platoon Sergeant in order to prevent rifle squads from deciding to sit on their ass and guard the mortars instead of engaging the enemy with the bayonet.

Platoon Commander- Subaltern - Sword, Pistol
Platoon Sergeant - Sergeant - Rifle, Pistol
Batman - Private - Rifle
Orderly - Private - Rifle, Folding Bicycle
Bandsman - Private - Rifle, Trumpet
Mortar Gunner (3) - Private - Rifle, 57mm Grenade projector
Mortarman (3) - Private - Rifle

Rifle Section (3) each
Section Commander - Corporal - Rifle
Second-in-command - Lance-corporal - Rifle
Automatic Rifleman (2) - Private - Automatic Rifle
Rifleman (8) - Private - Rifle

Platoon Lieutenant - 1st Lieutenant - RAR, Model 62 (EM-2, some bastard child of a Hi-Power and Tokarev in 7.92x25mm)
Platoon Sergeant - Sergeant First Class - RAR
FSO - 2nd Lieutenant - RAR
RATELO - Corporal - RAR
Corpsman - Corporal - RAR

Rifle Squad (3)
Squad Leader - Staff Sergeant - RAR
Fireteam Leader (3) - Sergeant - RAR
Designated Marksman - Corporal - RAR-DMR (EM-2 w/ 24" barrel)
Corpsman - Corporal - RAR
Asst. Mortarman - Corporal - RAR, extra 60mm shells
Rifleman (8) - Private - RAR w/ HK79 (sometimes Model 71/Full Auto Remington 870)
Mortarman - Private - RAR, Model 224 60mm commando mortar
Automatic Rifleman (3) - Private- RAR-LMG (belt fed EM-2) or Beaumont-Federsky w/ Chauchat-mag

dwi

[Interstellar Britannia]

Why are Staff Sergeants on the field rather then on the Staff

derp

[Galla-]

Why are Staff Sergeants on the field rather then on the Staff

derp

American-style rank structure. Staff Sergeants are squad leaders and platoon sergeants.