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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:40 am

Galla- wrote:
Samozaryadnyastan wrote:I ACTUALLY ISSUE COMMANDO MORTARS


A man's weapon:

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There is, quite literally, no better weapon for the individual infantry platoon than the 60mm mortar.

It's not mainline issue. Yet.
I issue a 50.8mm two-man mortar capable of being operated by a single trooper to every other front-line operator in the Spetsnaz, so that Spetsnaz consists entirely of two-man mortar teams, on operations significant enough to require their use.

Inspired completely off of a WWII British 50.8mm (2 inch) mortar.
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Postby Galla- » Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:42 am

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:
Galla- wrote:
A man's weapon:

(Image)

There is, quite literally, no better weapon for the individual infantry platoon than the 60mm mortar.

It's not mainline issue. Yet.
I issue a 50.8mm two-man mortar capable of being operated by a single trooper to every other front-line operator in the Spetsnaz, so that Spetsnaz consists entirely of two-man mortar teams, on operations significant enough to require their use.

Inspired completely off of a WWII British 50.8mm (2 inch) mortar.


60mm has a longer range and better HE load.


It can also be guided by GPS.

SBML is the M16 of mortars

8)
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Postby Bafuria » Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:56 am

Oterro wrote:
Galla- wrote:
A man's weapon:

Image

There is, quite literally, no better weapon for the individual infantry platoon than the 60mm mortar.


where do i put bayonet


More importantly, where is the fire selector?
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:10 am

Galla- wrote:
Samozaryadnyastan wrote:It's not mainline issue. Yet.
I issue a 50.8mm two-man mortar capable of being operated by a single trooper to every other front-line operator in the Spetsnaz, so that Spetsnaz consists entirely of two-man mortar teams, on operations significant enough to require their use.

Inspired completely off of a WWII British 50.8mm (2 inch) mortar.


60mm has a longer range and better HE load.


It can also be guided by GPS.

SBML is the M16 of mortars

8)

Don't think cheap mortar, think cheap XM-25. But more numerous and heavier.

It's not issued so Spetsnaz can go HERPA DURPA and blow up houses, it's to engage targets like sandbagged machine guns and snipers and even light vehicles at 'danger close' without the weight of a rocket launcher.
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Postby Galla- » Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:17 am

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:
Galla- wrote:
60mm has a longer range and better HE load.


It can also be guided by GPS.

SBML is the M16 of mortars

8)

Don't think cheap mortar, think cheap XM-25. But more numerous and heavier.

It's not issued so Spetsnaz can go HERPA DURPA and blow up houses, it's to engage targets like sandbagged machine guns and snipers and even light vehicles at 'danger close' without the weight of a rocket launcher.


M-25 would be better.
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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:20 am

Galla- wrote:
Samozaryadnyastan wrote:Don't think cheap mortar, think cheap XM-25. But more numerous and heavier.

It's not issued so Spetsnaz can go HERPA DURPA and blow up houses, it's to engage targets like sandbagged machine guns and snipers and even light vehicles at 'danger close' without the weight of a rocket launcher.


M-25 would be better.

Which M-25 there is a hand grenade, a sniper rifle, and a tank transporter with that name.
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Postby Galla- » Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:22 am

The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
Galla- wrote:
M-25 would be better.

Which M-25 there is a hand grenade, a sniper rifle, and a tank transporter with that name.


read the post i quoted

it might be helpful to understanding something called "context"

you do realise that in NS, it would be called the M-25 CDTES, not XM-25 CDTES

X is experimental, not production

it is, if it makes it to production, going to be called the M-25
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:27 am

Galla- wrote:
Samozaryadnyastan wrote:Don't think cheap mortar, think cheap XM-25. But more numerous and heavier.

It's not issued so Spetsnaz can go HERPA DURPA and blow up houses, it's to engage targets like sandbagged machine guns and snipers and even light vehicles at 'danger close' without the weight of a rocket launcher.


M-25 would be better.

I feel it would, I'm just being original.
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Postby The Ottish Empire » Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:46 am

Itailian Maifias wrote:
The Ottish Empire wrote:Why the hate?

Stock looks.... just weird

Yeah, I don't draw stocks real well...

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:I
It's not hate... more mild dislike.
The way that the stock and grip are connected, but so slightly, just doesn't sit with me. Either make the pistol grip a real part of the stock (not sure how to better phrase that), or separate them.


I tried my best, but I'll work on connecting them better. Thanks for the advice though.
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Postby Kihana » Wed Jun 08, 2011 12:15 pm

Already posted, updating now:

All militair personal have m1911
Standard Assault riffle is the M16, Scar-H/L being used too but less as they are more expansive.
Barrett .50 call for snipers
Spas-12 for shotgun
RPK for Heavy Firepower
FGM-148 Javelin as main AA/AT weapon
MP5K for silenced operations.

Basic Squad is:
16 Soldiers
1 Squad leader ("Sergeant")
1 Squad leader Assisant ('The Right Hand')
1 Sergeant Bodyguard
1 Radio/Intel member ('Vox Caster')
1 Medic
2 Long Range soldiers (Barrett, Scar-H, Spotter Gear)
2 Short Range soldiers (Spas-12, Scar-L)
1 Heavy (RPK)
1 Heavy sidekick (Target callout, you-know-what)
2 Regular + AA (M16 + Javelin)
3 Regular (M16/Scar-H + Extra Missle's/Ammo)

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Postby Dimoniquid » Wed Jun 08, 2011 12:17 pm

Take the RPK out, and switch to something American. Would save you the ammunition, and having to have a seperate line for that Russian stuff.

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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Wed Jun 08, 2011 12:20 pm

Dimoniquid wrote:Take the RPK out, and switch to something American. Would save you the ammunition, and having to have a seperate line for that Russian stuff.

Everything in that list makes sense apart from the RPK. It's Russian, it's super-old, and it's not very useful. The M60 would have been a better choice both logistically and physically for the role. The M240 would be even better.

Also, while you can use the Javelin in an AA role, there are much more effective dedicated SAM launchers available. Don't forget the Javelin is, first and foremost, a long-range anti-tank weapon.
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Postby Galla- » Wed Jun 08, 2011 12:25 pm

Kihana wrote:1 Radio/Intel member ('Vox Caster')


Call your medics something like "Adeptus Medicus".

Make all your soldiers look like Marcus Fenix.
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Postby The Ottish Empire » Wed Jun 08, 2011 12:28 pm

Galla- wrote:
Kihana wrote:1 Radio/Intel member ('Vox Caster')


Call your medics something like "Adeptus Medicus".

Make all your soldiers look like Marcus Fenix.

And call your soldier "Shootus Gunus".
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Postby Galla- » Wed Jun 08, 2011 12:29 pm

The Ottish Empire wrote:
Galla- wrote:
Call your medics something like "Adeptus Medicus".

Make all your soldiers look like Marcus Fenix.

And call your soldier "Shootus Gunus".


You're doing it wrong.

Some sort of hybrid Orkmarine.

Adeptus Firearmus.
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:01 pm

MOAR GUNZ FOR TEH GUN THREAD
Image
Because we were straying slightly. Epically unfinished, that's only the Mk3, I normally don't post pics until like Mk7.
Based off of this:
Image

The more eagle eyed of you will notice significant parts commonalities between my rifles, now.
Image
Image
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Postby Anemos Major » Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:07 pm

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OH GOD

WHAT HAVE I DONE

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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:11 pm

...
Drum mag and foregrip on the AR3 Carabinyr?
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Postby Anemos Major » Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:13 pm

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:...
Drum mag and foregrip on the AR3 Carabinyr?


50 rounds of 7.7mm in close combat

don't break the enemy

break your arms

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Postby Galla- » Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:15 pm

Anemos Major wrote:(Image)

OH GOD

WHAT HAVE I DONE


remove stock

add muzzle brake

make belt fed

remove foreguard and shorten barrel by 3 inches

Image

CQBR with belt and permanently attached forward grip
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:18 pm

Colt Commando, amirite?
Anemos Major wrote:
Samozaryadnyastan wrote:...
Drum mag and foregrip on the AR3 Carabinyr?


50 rounds of 7.7mm in close combat

don't break the enemy

break your arms

Were Nick here at this moment, I'm sure he'd make some comment about real men bayonetting the enemy after your pansy 7.7 round has broken the feeble child arms of your troops.
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Postby Galla- » Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:19 pm

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:
Anemos Major wrote:
50 rounds of 7.7mm in close combat

don't break the enemy

break your arms

Were Nick here at this moment, I'm sure he'd make some comment about real men bayonetting the enemy after your pansy 7.7 round has broken the feeble child arms of your troops.


5' 7"

113 lbs

No doubt I would be able to both shoulder and fire that fucker with little recoil problems. Even with my meat tenderised deltoid as is currently.
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:30 pm

MOAR GUNZ FOR TEH GUN THREAD
Image
Because we were straying slightly. Epically unfinished, that's only the Mk3, I normally don't post pics until like Mk7.
Based off of this:
Image

The more eagle eyed of you will notice significant parts commonalities between my rifles, now.
Image
Image





Reposted for lack of criticism at eighth-complete lineart.
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Postby The Ottish Empire » Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:36 pm

Anemos Major wrote:(Image)

OH GOD

WHAT HAVE I DONE

YOU PLAYED GOD, DAMNIT!! YOUR PLAYED GOD!!

Mount that on an armored ATV (Like a Humvee) and it'll be perfect!
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Postby Anemos Major » Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:43 pm

The Ottish Empire wrote:YOU PLAYED GOD, DAMNIT!! YOUR PLAYED GOD!!

Mount that on an armored ATV (Like a Humvee) and it'll be perfect!


>:-/

What you meant to say was 'equip commandos, kill insurgents'.

Because Galla doesn't need stocks or handguards, I slightly revised the design to be more realistic and acceptable.

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