MAIN MILITARY WEAPON OF YOUR COUNTRY (MK. II) P2

[Anemos Major]

I've got the AR9 for that.

I know, I just wanted to know what you'd used as your base.

I told you; the 5.56mm STANAG 30 round magazine. It's that 'US military 30 rounder', yes.

I did consider making a PMAG style thing, but I'm too tired for that.

[Munathanura]

I know, I just wanted to know what you'd used as your base.

I told you; the 5.56mm STANAG 30 round magazine. It's that 'US military 30 rounder', yes.

I did consider making a PMAG style thing, but I'm too tired for that.

Right, sorry, it's just that I thought that just about all 5.56mm mags were STANAG. And fair enough. I think I prefer the 20 round mags to a 30 round polymer one anyway. They just seem to fit the gun.

[Anemos Major]

Right, sorry, it's just that I thought that just about all 5.56mm mags were STANAG. And fair enough. I think I prefer the 20 round mags to a 30 round polymer one anyway. They just seem to fit the gun.

Well, STANAG-compliant, but the aluminium box was the original STANAG basis.

And that's not necessarily true. The FAMAS F1, for example.

[Munathanura]

Right, sorry, it's just that I thought that just about all 5.56mm mags were STANAG. And fair enough. I think I prefer the 20 round mags to a 30 round polymer one anyway. They just seem to fit the gun.

Well, STANAG-compliant, but the aluminium box was the original STANAG basis.

Ah, gotcha. Thanks for the info.

[Anemos Major]

Well, STANAG-compliant, but the aluminium box was the original STANAG basis.

Ah, gotcha. Thanks for the info.

Any other versions you think I should make before I get started?

[Munathanura]

Ah, gotcha. Thanks for the info.

Any other versions you think I should make before I get started?

The only thing that I can think of would be a LSW version, but I'm not sure how much use it would be and how well it would sell.

[Fischermann]

Isn't it quite heavy for a SMG like that? The AK is lighter than that.

What? I'd like a source for that claim.

If that's a loaded weight, that's actually about right, judging by the 4.17kg weight of the MAT-49. How many rounds in the magazine?

AKM: 3.1 kg (6.83 lb)
AKML: 3.80 kg (8.4 lb)
AKMS: 3.3 kg (7.3 lb)
AKMSN: 3.77 kg (8.3 lb)

[Anemos Major]

What? I'd like a source for that claim.

If that's a loaded weight, that's actually about right, judging by the 4.17kg weight of the MAT-49. How many rounds in the magazine?

AKM: 3.1 kg (6.83 lb)
AKML: 3.80 kg (8.4 lb)
AKMS: 3.3 kg (7.3 lb)
AKMSN: 3.77 kg (8.3 lb)

Unloaded, innit.

[Fischermann]

AKM: 3.1 kg (6.83 lb)
AKML: 3.80 kg (8.4 lb)
AKMS: 3.3 kg (7.3 lb)
AKMSN: 3.77 kg (8.3 lb)

Unloaded, innit.

Didn't know that weapon's weight was shown loaded.

[Anemos Major]

Didn't know that weapon's weight was shown loaded.

Considering the fact that the MAT-49, a submachine gun, is 4.1kg when loaded, it's not difficult to do the maths.

AKM when loaded is 4.34kg.

[Solyhniya]

After building on C-P's generous improvements, I've designed an upgrade to the Zr.64 which is still meant to be in service. I don't have any more than basic stats, but if anyone has the time to critique the image I would be very grateful

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Is that stock meant to fold?

Yes, much the same way as the AK-100 series.

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The SaAL 51 submachine gun is issued mostly to pilots and vehicle crews. A large amount of them were made in the late 1960s to replace the older Sten Mk II then in service. Some soldiers, often referred to as 'double idiots', carry one SaAL 51 in each hand with their stocks folded.

Weight: 3.9 kg
Length: 785 mm (Stock Unfolded)
Barrel Length: 245 mm
Cartridge: .45 ACP
Rate of Fire: 500 rpm
Action: Blowback, Open Bolt
Effective Range: 75 m
Sights: U-notch rear sight, post foresight.

Really interesting piece of work here, I actually like to see designs which are a little more flawed, rather than the typical, 6mm calibre uber caseless bullpups there are so many of.

I might well buy this with one of my puppets, if it's for sale.

[Solyhniya]

Right, exams are over; I'm going to spend today doing the write-ups for both the AR5 and that AR9 derived PDW, but I need to get my AR5 lineart finalised first. Of course, I'm not going to use all of these AR5s, but I'd like a second opinion, especially for those hastily produced 30 round mags.

Also, could you tell me which one (a or b) I should post a picture of on the page (i.e. 20 round or 30 round mag)? And any potential additional modifications/variants, if you have any ideas. DON'T SAY DMR, that's the job of the AR3R1/mod sF.

1. Standard rifle, no rails or attachments.
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2. Standard Carbine, no rails or attachments.
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3. Standard Carbine with rails.
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4.Standard Carbine with rails and telescoping stock.
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5. Carbine with rails, telescoping stock and attachments (only did a 30 round version).
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6. Paratrooper Rifle with folding stock.
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7. Standard Rifle with foreend rails.
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8. Standard Rifle with rails and attachments.
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Looks NATO-tastic! I like the work you've done with the STANAG-style magazine, the whole thing just looks very realistic, like you could find it IRL.

Just wondering, if that stock is telescoping, what does it look like folded out or is it already so?

[Anemos Major]

Right, exams are over; I'm going to spend today doing the write-ups for both the AR5 and that AR9 derived PDW, but I need to get my AR5 lineart finalised first. Of course, I'm not going to use all of these AR5s, but I'd like a second opinion, especially for those hastily produced 30 round mags.

Also, could you tell me which one (a or b) I should post a picture of on the page (i.e. 20 round or 30 round mag)? And any potential additional modifications/variants, if you have any ideas. DON'T SAY DMR, that's the job of the AR3R1/mod sF.

1. Standard rifle, no rails or attachments.
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2. Standard Carbine, no rails or attachments.
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3. Standard Carbine with rails.
(Image)
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4.Standard Carbine with rails and telescoping stock.
(Image)
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5. Carbine with rails, telescoping stock and attachments (only did a 30 round version).
(Image)

6. Paratrooper Rifle with folding stock.
(Image)
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7. Standard Rifle with foreend rails.
(Image)
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8. Standard Rifle with rails and attachments.
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Looks NATO-tastic! I like the work you've done with the STANAG-style magazine, the whole thing just looks very realistic, like you could find it IRL.

Just wondering, if that stock is telescoping, what does it look like folded out or is it already so?

You're too kind.



Like this, I'd guess.

[Fischermann]

Looks NATO-tastic! I like the work you've done with the STANAG-style magazine, the whole thing just looks very realistic, like you could find it IRL.

Just wondering, if that stock is telescoping, what does it look like folded out or is it already so?

You're too kind.



Like this, I'd guess.

Anemos, I'd like to request something from you.

You see, the biggest problem I have with weapons is the stocks, they're usually too short or too long.

Can you do an AK - style stock for me?

[Anemos Major]

Anemos, I'd like to request something from you.

You see, the biggest problem I have with weapons is the stocks, they're usually too short or too long.

Can you do an AK - style stock for me?

There's way too much on my plate atm, sorry. Either way, my style is very distinct from yours, so it wouldn't work.

[Vingtor]

Right bit of work before I have to go off


Better or worse?

[Vingtor]

Anemos, I'd like to request something from you.

You see, the biggest problem I have with weapons is the stocks, they're usually too short or too long.

Can you do an AK - style stock for me?

Do what I do and just randomly hack/and or lenghten it until the other say "Yeah that looks about right."

[Munathanura]

Right bit of work before I have to go off
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Better or worse?

Different, is what I would say. I'd keep both and forget about standardisation.

[Uawc]

The main military weapon of the UAWC, the AR-RO modular rifle system, is available for detailed description, viewing, and sale here.

[Indeos]

Looks NATO-tastic! I like the work you've done with the STANAG-style magazine, the whole thing just looks very realistic, like you could find it IRL.

Just wondering, if that stock is telescoping, what does it look like folded out or is it already so?

You're too kind.



Like this, I'd guess.

The tube looks kinda thick IMO. For the record, I'd go 30 round on anything that isn't some sort of DMR. I'd have to look at all of them to be specific.

[Solyhniya]

After building on C-P's generous improvements, I've designed an upgrade to the Zr.64 which is still meant to be in service. I don't have any more than basic stats, but if anyone has the time to critique the image I would be very grateful

Any more opinions before I set to work on a modular, floating barrel version?

[Anemos Major]

The tube looks kinda thick IMO. For the record, I'd go 30 round on anything that isn't some sort of DMR. I'd have to look at all of them to be specific.

Right, exams are over; I'm going to spend today doing the write-ups for both the AR5 and that AR9 derived PDW, but I need to get my AR5 lineart finalised first. Of course, I'm not going to use all of these AR5s, but I'd like a second opinion, especially for those hastily produced 30 round mags.

Also, could you tell me which one (a or b) I should post a picture of on the page (i.e. 20 round or 30 round mag)? And any potential additional modifications/variants, if you have any ideas. DON'T SAY DMR, that's the job of the AR3R1/mod sF.

1. Standard rifle, no rails or attachments.



2. Standard Carbine, no rails or attachments.



3. Standard Carbine with rails.



4.Standard Carbine with rails and telescoping stock.



5. Carbine with rails, telescoping stock and attachments (only did a 30 round version).


6. Paratrooper Rifle with folding stock.



7. Standard Rifle with foreend rails.



8. Standard Rifle with rails and attachments.

[Anemos Major]

After building on C-P's generous improvements, I've designed an upgrade to the Zr.64 which is still meant to be in service. I don't have any more than basic stats, but if anyone has the time to critique the image I would be very grateful

Any more opinions before I set to work on a modular, floating barrel version?

I knew I was going to go out of business.

Fix the rear sights.
Muck with the stock, something tells me it... needs something.
Gas block 2 barrel needs more clunk.

[Solyhniya]

Any more opinions before I set to work on a modular, floating barrel version?

I knew I was going to go out of business.

Fix the rear sights.
Muck with the stock, something tells me it... needs something.
Gas block 2 barrel needs more clunk.

You know that will never happen, but I take that as high praise indeed, nonetheless. Thanks!

On your suggestions:
-The rear sight was a shamelessly botched GALIL ripoff that took me two seconds, just so I could post a more-or-less complete rifle on this thread. Ideally, I'd like an HK-style drum sight there but that's going to take me forever to draw.
-The stock is the same as the old Zr.64 AKM-style stock, except it's polymerised and now folds. I think I'll draw some detail onto it and eventually replace it with an original shock-absorbing stock.
-Agreed, on it.

[Samozaryadnyastan]

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Any more opinions before I set to work on a modular, floating barrel version?

I knew I was going to go out of business.

Fix the rear sights.
Muck with the stock, something tells me it... needs something.
Gas block 2 barrel needs more clunk.

I think it's because the stock doesn't angle down, like an AK-type stock would, and is too high for the sights? I remember I had that issue with my SA-AR-3 rifle.