MAIN MILITARY WEAPON OF YOUR COUNTRY (MK. II) P2

[Vingtor]

Why do you have three wildly diffrent rifles?

Ak-101 for grunts
FN FAL for officers
G36C for field ops

Lie to me and say you are going to pick one round for all of them. Just so your quartermaster can sleep at night.

[Lebowa Seko]

The SaAL 51 submachine gun is issued mostly to pilots and vehicle crews. A large amount of them were made in the late 1960s to replace the older Sten Mk II then in service. Some soldiers, often referred to as 'double idiots', carry one SaAL 51 in each hand with their stocks folded.

Weight: 3.9 kg
Length: 785 mm (Stock Unfolded)
Barrel Length: 245 mm
Cartridge: .45 ACP
Rate of Fire: 500 rpm
Action: Blowback, Open Bolt
Effective Range: 75 m
Sights: U-notch rear sight, post foresight.

[Vingtor]

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The SaAL 51 submachine gun is issued mostly to pilots and vehicle crews. A large amount of them were made in the late 1960s to replace the older Sten Mk II then in service. Some soldiers, often referred to as 'double idiots', carry one SaAL 51 in each hand with their stocks folded.

Weight: 3.9 kg
Length: 785 mm (Stock Unfolded)
Barrel Length: 245 mm
Cartridge: .45 ACP
Rate of Fire: 500 rpm
Action: Blowback, Open Bolt
Effective Range: 75 m
Sights: U-notch rear sight, post foresight.

Purty.

[Munathanura]

Glad I could help.

How long is too long?

The average seems to have been around 9 cm, with the length varying between 7.4 and 11 cm.

[Vingtor]

Alright, better or worse?

[Munathanura]

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Alright, better or worse?

Definitely better. If you were going for more detailed lineart, I'd suggest have the transition to the point a little smoother, like the Knud (Viking Type AE), but it's just about spot on for the level of detail you've got.

[Vingtor]

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Alright, better or worse?

Definitely better. If you were going for more detailed lineart, I'd suggest have the transition to the point a little smoother, like the Knud (Viking Type AE), but it's just about spot on for the level of detail you've got.

That will be another day friend. Gnight.

[Munathanura]

Definitely better. If you were going for more detailed lineart, I'd suggest have the transition to the point a little smoother, like the Knud (Viking Type AE), but it's just about spot on for the level of detail you've got.

That will be another day friend. Gnight.

Rightio, 'night.

[Yasashii]

The most common military weapons are the Daewoo K11, which is the standard issue assault rifle, and the Daewoo K7, which is used by special ops, diplomatic security, and special police units. Many other guns remain in use.

[Munathanura]

The most common military weapons are the Daewoo K11, which is the standard issue assault rifle, and the Daewoo K7, which is used by special ops, diplomatic security, and special police units. Many other guns remain in use.

I'd suggest using The K2 as your primary rifle, with the K11 being issued to grenadiers, or else make a version that lacks the electronics and airbursting ammunition of the K11. Otherwise you're issuing a 6.1 kg, $14 000 rifle to each and every soldier. It'd be cheaper and almost as effective to issue every soldier with a K2 and a M203 redesigned to take the 40 x 51mm Extended Range Low Pressure rounds
(ERLP). You'd cut down on the weight and expense, at any rate, while increasing the lethal radius.

[Imeriata]

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Alright, better or worse?

If you want a Viking sword so would I recommend making it longer and thicker and not as pointy as you want it to be heavy rather and hard hitting rather than sharp and light.

[Munathanura]

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Alright, better or worse?

If you want a Viking sword so would I recommend making it longer and thicker and not as pointy as you want it to be heavy rather and hard hitting rather than sharp and light.

It looks pretty wide at the guard to me, and not all Viking swords had such rounded points. For example, the Petersen Type AE had a relatively sharp point. Not quite sharp as Vingtor's, mind, but given the level of detail he's using, he could easily be using such a point.

[Imeriata]

If you want a Viking sword so would I recommend making it longer and thicker and not as pointy as you want it to be heavy rather and hard hitting rather than sharp and light.

It looks pretty wide at the guard to me, and not all Viking swords had such rounded points. For example, the Petersen Type AE had a relatively sharp point. Not quite sharp as Vingtor's, mind, but given the level of detail he's using, he could easily be using such a point.

of course not all swords will be the same, quite the contrary so will most of them be unique but as most of them had rounded tips so could that be something to look into

[Munathanura]

It looks pretty wide at the guard to me, and not all Viking swords had such rounded points. For example, the Petersen Type AE had a relatively sharp point. Not quite sharp as Vingtor's, mind, but given the level of detail he's using, he could easily be using such a point.

of course not all swords will be the same, quite the contrary so will most of them be unique but as most of them had rounded tips so could that be something to look into

Point. There's always the possibility that his vikings decided to go with a sharper point to better defeat enemy armour.

[Fischermann]

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The SaAL 51 submachine gun is issued mostly to pilots and vehicle crews. A large amount of them were made in the late 1960s to replace the older Sten Mk II then in service. Some soldiers, often referred to as 'double idiots', carry one SaAL 51 in each hand with their stocks folded.

Weight: 3.9 kg
Length: 785 mm (Stock Unfolded)
Barrel Length: 245 mm
Cartridge: .45 ACP
Rate of Fire: 500 rpm
Action: Blowback, Open Bolt
Effective Range: 75 m
Sights: U-notch rear sight, post foresight.

Isn't it quite heavy for a SMG like that? The AK is lighter than that.

[Anemos Major]

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The SaAL 51 submachine gun is issued mostly to pilots and vehicle crews. A large amount of them were made in the late 1960s to replace the older Sten Mk II then in service. Some soldiers, often referred to as 'double idiots', carry one SaAL 51 in each hand with their stocks folded.

Weight: 3.9 kg
Length: 785 mm (Stock Unfolded)
Barrel Length: 245 mm
Cartridge: .45 ACP
Rate of Fire: 500 rpm
Action: Blowback, Open Bolt
Effective Range: 75 m
Sights: U-notch rear sight, post foresight.

Isn't it quite heavy for a SMG like that? The AK is lighter than that.

What? I'd like a source for that claim.

If that's a loaded weight, that's actually about right, judging by the 4.17kg weight of the MAT-49. How many rounds in the magazine?

[Imeriata]

of course not all swords will be the same, quite the contrary so will most of them be unique but as most of them had rounded tips so could that be something to look into

Point. There's always the possibility that his vikings decided to go with a sharper point to better defeat enemy armour.

Which would actually be a bad decision as they would have to make the swords lighter if you wanted to thrust with them, something that would be less than optimal in a shieldwall as it would expose your arm too long while the heavy Viking swords were more than capable of crushing bones and organs regardless if the enemy had armour or not

[Munathanura]

Point. There's always the possibility that his vikings decided to go with a sharper point to better defeat enemy armour.

Which would actually be a bad decision as they would have to make the swords lighter if you wanted to thrust with them, something that would be less than optimal in a shieldwall as it would expose your arm too long while the heavy Viking swords were more than capable of crushing bones and organs regardless if the enemy had armour or not even if their axes were better for that

That depends on how wide and thick you make the sword. Case in point: the Viking Type K sword has a similar blade and overall length to the Oakeshott Type XV, but weighs 0.2 kg less. While there is a difference in centre of percussion (50cm vs 43.8cm), Vintgor's sword doesn't have anywhere near that kind of taper, so a more appropriate CoP for a shield wall is entirely possible.

[Imeriata]

That depends on how wide and thick you make the sword. Case in point: the Viking Type K sword has a similar blade and overall length to the Oakeshott Type XV, but weighs 0.2 kg less. While there is a difference in centre of percussion (50cm vs 43.8cm), Vintgor's sword doesn't have anywhere near that kind of taper, so a more appropriate CoP for a shield wall is entirely possible.

Yes it does and I am generalising here as standardisation is a new concept and each warrior used what he could afford and liked even if Vikings in general preferred heavier swords

[Anemos Major]

Right, exams are over; I'm going to spend today doing the write-ups for both the AR5 and that AR9 derived PDW, but I need to get my AR5 lineart finalised first. Of course, I'm not going to use all of these AR5s, but I'd like a second opinion, especially for those hastily produced 30 round mags.

Also, could you tell me which one (a or b) I should post a picture of on the page (i.e. 20 round or 30 round mag)? And any potential additional modifications/variants, if you have any ideas. DON'T SAY DMR, that's the job of the AR3R1/mod sF.

1. Standard rifle, no rails or attachments.



2. Standard Carbine, no rails or attachments.



3. Standard Carbine with rails.



4.Standard Carbine with rails and telescoping stock.



5. Carbine with rails, telescoping stock and attachments (only did a 30 round version).


6. Paratrooper Rifle with folding stock.



7. Standard Rifle with foreend rails.



8. Standard Rifle with rails and attachments.

[Munathanura]

That depends on how wide and thick you make the sword. Case in point: the Viking Type K sword has a similar blade and overall length to the Oakeshott Type XV, but weighs 0.2 kg less. While there is a difference in centre of percussion (50cm vs 43.8cm), Vintgor's sword doesn't have anywhere near that kind of taper, so a more appropriate CoP for a shield wall is entirely possible.

Yes it does and I am generalising here as standardisation is a new concept and each warrior used what he could afford and liked even if Vikings in general preferred heavier swords

From a quick look at Albion Arm's line of swords, which cover a good many types of Viking swords, the preferred weight seems to be between 1.1 kg and 1.22 kg, with some outliers at 0.975 kg and 1.33 kg. I see no reason why Vintgor's sword would not fall within the preferred range, and I see no further reason as to why it couldn't be made to fall into the higher end of the category.

Right, exams are over; I'm going to spend today doing the write-ups for both the AR5 and that AR9 derived PDW, but I need to get my AR5 lineart finalised first. Of course, I'm not going to use all of these AR5s, but I'd like a second opinion, especially for those hastily produced 30 round mags.

Also, could you tell me which one (a or b) I should post a picture of on the page (i.e. 20 round or 30 round mag)? And any potential additional modifications/variants, if you have any ideas. DON'T SAY DMR, that's the job of the AR3R1/mod sF.

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A in all cases, bar #5. The rifle looks way better with the 20 round mag, at least to my eyes.

[Anemos Major]

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I wonder what went wrong... I tried doing it by tracing an actual 30 round 5.56mm STANAG aluminium magazine. I think 8 needs a 30 rounder as well, but otherwise, m'kay.

[Munathanura]

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I wonder what went wrong... I tried doing it by tracing an actual 30 round 5.56mm STANAG aluminium magazine. I think 8 needs a 30 rounder as well, but otherwise, m'kay.

Did you use one of those US military 30 rounders? Because I've never liked the look of those. Give me a straight 20 round mag or a nice, gently curved polymer magazine over one of those any day.

[Anemos Major]

Did you use one of those US military 30 rounders? Because I've never liked the look of those. Give me a straight 20 round mag or a nice, gently curved polymer magazine over one of those any day.

I've got the AR9 for that.

[Munathanura]

Did you use one of those US military 30 rounders? Because I've never liked the look of those. Give me a straight 20 round mag or a nice, gently curved polymer magazine over one of those any day.

I've got the AR9 for that.

I know, I just wanted to know what you'd used as your base.