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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:56 pm

Floydian Britannia wrote:My nation's military information is highly classified, but I can say that militants in my nation use the cheap and stereotypical yet extremely practical AK-47.

Unless your nation resides in the 1960s, can I say please no?
AKM or AK-74. Or, if you're slightly in the future, AK-100 series.
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Postby Cult of Skaaro » Tue Jun 07, 2011 11:07 pm

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:
Floydian Britannia wrote:My nation's military information is highly classified, but I can say that militants in my nation use the cheap and stereotypical yet extremely practical AK-47.

Unless your nation resides in the 1960s, can I say please no?
AKM or AK-74. Or, if you're slightly in the future, AK-100 series.


Or you're a third/second world military dictatorship that needs a lot of weapons cheaply. At which point old-Soviet is the route to go and the 47 becomes viable again. After all; quantity is a quality all it's own sayeth the Stalin.
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Postby Lyckligaland » Tue Jun 07, 2011 11:09 pm

Cult of Skaaro wrote:
Samozaryadnyastan wrote:Unless your nation resides in the 1960s, can I say please no?
AKM or AK-74. Or, if you're slightly in the future, AK-100 series.


Or you're a third/second world military dictatorship that needs a lot of weapons cheaply. At which point old-Soviet is the route to go and the 47 becomes viable again. After all; quantity is a quality all it's own sayeth the Stalin.


The AKM is easier to make than the AK-47, though. Cheaper, too.
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Postby Greater-Prussia » Tue Jun 07, 2011 11:15 pm

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Muskets > AK-47

I am serious.

If you want to go AK earliest you go is AKM then upgrade to the 74 as soon as possible. If you are a third world dictatorship hellhole, hang onto the AKMs and just keep them uptodate. AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD MAKE SURE THEY'RE RUSSIAN AND NOT CHINESE.
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Postby Soviet Haaregrad » Tue Jun 07, 2011 11:15 pm

Cult of Skaaro wrote:
Samozaryadnyastan wrote:Unless your nation resides in the 1960s, can I say please no?
AKM or AK-74. Or, if you're slightly in the future, AK-100 series.


Or you're a third/second world military dictatorship that needs a lot of weapons cheaply. At which point old-Soviet is the route to go and the 47 becomes viable again. After all; quantity is a quality all it's own sayeth the Stalin.


You can make stamped receivers quicker and cheaper than machined receivers, this is only one of the reasons the AKM > AK-47 in every single way.
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Tue Jun 07, 2011 11:17 pm

Cult of Skaaro wrote:
Samozaryadnyastan wrote:Unless your nation resides in the 1960s, can I say please no?
AKM or AK-74. Or, if you're slightly in the future, AK-100 series.


Or you're a third/second world military dictatorship that needs a lot of weapons cheaply. At which point old-Soviet is the route to go and the 47 becomes viable again. After all; quantity is a quality all it's own sayeth the Stalin.

The '47 was only in Russian service for 10 years until 1959 when it was replaced with the AKM.
Hence my point about the name 'AK-47' being thrown about, when no-one actually uses the damn thing today.
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Postby Greater-Prussia » Tue Jun 07, 2011 11:20 pm

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:
Cult of Skaaro wrote:
Or you're a third/second world military dictatorship that needs a lot of weapons cheaply. At which point old-Soviet is the route to go and the 47 becomes viable again. After all; quantity is a quality all it's own sayeth the Stalin.

The '47 was only in Russian service for 10 years until 1959 when it was replaced with the AKM.
Hence my point about the name 'AK-47' being thrown about, when no-one actually uses the damn thing today.


North Korea. But these are the folks who use bolt action rifles still as well.

'AK-47' is thrown about because it's the gun which all other AK's are derived from, the spiritual ancestor etc etc. It's not until you get to this new fangled AN-94 do you see Mother Russia abandoning tried and true.
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Postby Anemos Major » Tue Jun 07, 2011 11:27 pm

Big post coming up; enjoy the lolhueg writeup. I did the calculations; it's over 50% longer than my last one.

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=116707

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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Tue Jun 07, 2011 11:32 pm

Anemos Major wrote:Big post coming up; enjoy the lolhueg writeup. I did the calculations; it's over 50% longer than my last one.

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=116707

I'll need to learn more about operating mechanisms and stuff like free-floating barrels before Samozniy Military Industries V2 goes up :/
But when it does, it's gonna be completely different.

Current OP's gonna be copypasta'd, with major additions, then I'm gonna do what everyone else does these days and make threads detailing my products and just have like a synopsis in the order thread.
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Postby Albrante » Wed Jun 08, 2011 3:12 am

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Always liked the aesthetic of the SCARs so i decided to throw it together with my like of bull-pups, came up with this. Just an image at the moment, might do a write up If i get around to it.
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Postby Sino-Japanese Empire » Wed Jun 08, 2011 6:47 am

Albrante wrote:
Always liked the aesthetic of the SCARs so i decided to throw it together with my like of bull-pups, came up with this. Just an image at the moment, might do a write up If i get around to it.


Move on to Lineart. :P

There's nothing too special about it, but it's not bad either.
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Postby Minm (Ancient) » Wed Jun 08, 2011 6:56 am

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Freedom Industries A-Class Blaster. Favoured by the MDF (Minm Defence Force) due to its cheapness and reliability, as well as its fairly small size.

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Postby Vingtor » Wed Jun 08, 2011 8:01 am

Minm wrote:(Image)
Freedom Industries A-Class Blaster. Favoured by the MDF (Minm Defence Force) due to its cheapness and reliability, as well as its fairly small size.

I like it. Got any stats? Are vials nucular?
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Postby Galla- » Wed Jun 08, 2011 8:46 am

Greater-Prussia wrote:
Samozaryadnyastan wrote:The '47 was only in Russian service for 10 years until 1959 when it was replaced with the AKM.
Hence my point about the name 'AK-47' being thrown about, when no-one actually uses the damn thing today.


North Korea. But these are the folks who use bolt action rifles still as well.

'AK-47' is thrown about because it's the gun which all other AK's are derived from, the spiritual ancestor etc etc. It's not until you get to this new fangled AN-94 do you see Mother Russia abandoning tried and true.


Bolt action rifles are more accurate than repeaters.

What now? I can kill you from a kilometer while you're stuck with bullets falling out of the sky at 500 m.
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Postby Minm (Ancient) » Wed Jun 08, 2011 8:54 am

Vingtor wrote:I like it.

Thanks :)

Got any stats?

What sort of stats do you want? I'm sure I can make some up...

Are vials nucular?

The green bits you mean? I'm not sure. I was thinking some sort of spacey plasma containment cores or something

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Postby The Ottish Empire » Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:13 am

The Ottish Empire wrote:MonaLuca Mod. 2
Now with color =p

Re-did stock and pistol grip (so as not to steal Quester's stock and pistol grip). Well, how's it look?

Why the hate?
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Postby Itailian Maifias » Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:18 am

The Ottish Empire wrote:
The Ottish Empire wrote:MonaLuca Mod. 2
Now with color =p

Re-did stock and pistol grip (so as not to steal Quester's stock and pistol grip). Well, how's it look?

Why the hate?

Stock looks.... just weird
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Postby Minm (Ancient) » Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:19 am

The Ottish Empire wrote:
The Ottish Empire wrote:MonaLuca Mod. 2
Now with color =p

Re-did stock and pistol grip (so as not to steal Quester's stock and pistol grip). Well, how's it look?

Why the hate?

Looks sexy

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Postby Risen Britannia » Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:28 am

my current main weapon is the BAM-S833
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This is the base version which uses a 6.8mm cartage and is equipped with a 25round mag
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Postby Galla- » Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:29 am

i dare someone to issue commando mortars and stoner LMGs as their nation's main weapons
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:30 am

I ACTUALLY ISSUE COMMANDO MORTARS

@Britannia - Looks fairly cool. The cheek rest looks a bit far back on the stock.
The Ottish Empire wrote:
The Ottish Empire wrote:MonaLuca Mod. 2
Now with color =p

Re-did stock and pistol grip (so as not to steal Quester's stock and pistol grip). Well, how's it look?

Why the hate?

It's not hate... more mild dislike.
The way that the stock and grip are connected, but so slightly, just doesn't sit with me. Either make the pistol grip a real part of the stock (not sure how to better phrase that), or separate them.
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Postby Galla- » Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:35 am

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:I ACTUALLY ISSUE COMMANDO MORTARS


A man's weapon:

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There is, quite literally, no better weapon for the individual infantry platoon than the 60mm mortar.
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Postby Oterro » Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:37 am

Galla- wrote:
Samozaryadnyastan wrote:I ACTUALLY ISSUE COMMANDO MORTARS


A man's weapon:

Image

There is, quite literally, no better weapon for the individual infantry platoon than the 60mm mortar.


where do i put bayonet
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Postby Galla- » Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:38 am

Oterro wrote:
Galla- wrote:
A man's weapon:

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There is, quite literally, no better weapon for the individual infantry platoon than the 60mm mortar.


where do i put bayonet


On the rifle that he's carrying because overall the rifle + mortar weighs only a pound more than an M240B.
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Postby Oterro » Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:39 am

Galla- wrote:
Oterro wrote:
where do i put bayonet


On the rifle that he's carrying because overall the rifle + mortar weighs only a pound more than an M240B.


no silly

where on the mortar?
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