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Anemos Major
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Postby Anemos Major » Sat May 14, 2011 7:44 am

Watching an anime, thought of Indeos.

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uses an automatic Mauser C96.

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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Sat May 14, 2011 7:45 am

Oterro wrote:Ohey
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Thoughts?

Why the hell a rifle? Make it a musket for fast reloading.
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Postby Romanium Imperium » Sat May 14, 2011 7:48 am

Or keep it a rifle to pick off silly muskeeters and their inferior range.
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Postby Oterro » Sat May 14, 2011 7:51 am

The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
Oterro wrote:Ohey
(Image)
Thoughts?

Why the hell a rifle? Make it a musket for fast reloading.



ffs theres supposed to be 4 barrels there

>being charged by elephant
>youve got less than 1 minute till it hits you
>youre not getting a chance to reload
>you appreciate extra accuracy
>you fire and hit elephant
>big hero

>being charged by elephant
>youve got 1 minute it till it hits you
>youre not getting a chance to reload
>you fire and hit some giraffes grazing on some some delicious African grass to the east
>die
>no hero
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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Sat May 14, 2011 7:51 am

Romanium Imperium wrote:Or keep it a rifle to pick off silly muskeeters and their inferior range.

You missed the close quarters part, and multi-barreled.
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The Anglo-Saxon Empire
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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Sat May 14, 2011 7:51 am

Oterro wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:Why the hell a rifle? Make it a musket for fast reloading.



ffs theres supposed to be 4 barrels there

>being charged by elephant
>youve got less than 1 minute till it hits you
>youre not getting a chance to reload
>you appreciate extra accuracy
>you fire and hit elephant
>big hero

>being charged by elephant
>youve got 1 minute it till it hits you
>youre not getting a chance to reload
>you fire and hit some giraffes grazing on some some delicious African grass to the east
>die
>no hero

If it is for hunting, why call it a combat rifle?
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Oterro
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Postby Oterro » Sat May 14, 2011 7:52 am

Noone noticed i put an arming sword on instead of a bayonet

):

The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
Oterro wrote:

ffs theres supposed to be 4 barrels there

>being charged by elephant
>youve got less than 1 minute till it hits you
>youre not getting a chance to reload
>you appreciate extra accuracy
>you fire and hit elephant
>big hero

>being charged by elephant
>youve got 1 minute it till it hits you
>youre not getting a chance to reload
>you fire and hit some giraffes grazing on some some delicious African grass to the east
>die
>no hero

If it is for hunting, why call it a combat rifle?


b/c it's from an old design for a volley gun for use by my navies and if I ever get to actually PT'ing it will be used by my navy
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Postby Romanium Imperium » Sat May 14, 2011 7:52 am

The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
Romanium Imperium wrote:Or keep it a rifle to pick off silly muskeeters and their inferior range.

You missed the close quarters part, and multi-barreled.


I did. /stfu.
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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Sat May 14, 2011 7:54 am

Oterro wrote:Noone noticed i put an arming sword on instead of a bayonet

):

The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:If it is for hunting, why call it a combat rifle?


b/c it's from an old design for a volley gun for use by my navies and if I ever get to actually PT'ing it will be used by my navy

Multi-barreled rifles for combat are stupid, just have it be a modified experimental army musket or something.
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Postby Romanium Imperium » Sat May 14, 2011 7:57 am

Oterro wrote:
b/c it's from an old design for a volley gun for use by my navies and if I ever get to actually PT'ing it will be used by my navy


You want to see how effective musket balls can be against heavy cavalry? We can do some PT'ing. :P

Multiple barreled weapons existed by the way. Most famous one was called the Gatling Gun.
Imperium Romanum
The Most Efficient Military Force In The History of Man

By The Grace of The Gods, and Might of the Roman Legions; Romulus Aurelius Augustus, Emperor of Byzantium, Dictator of Nicaea, Kaisar of Greece, Consul and Princeps, First Among Equals, Beloved of Jupiter, Pontifex Maximus of Roma - Rightful and Only Caesar of Rome


Slave State and Proudly So.
And you STILL need a better reason than the above to invade.

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Postby Oterro » Sat May 14, 2011 7:58 am

The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
Oterro wrote:Noone noticed i put an arming sword on instead of a bayonet

):



b/c it's from an old design for a volley gun for use by my navies and if I ever get to actually PT'ing it will be used by my navy

Multi-barreled rifles for combat are stupid, just have it be a modified experimental army musket or something.


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what was that i couldnt hear you over the sound of my trusty irish sergeant

>implying i'll ever RP a PT war

Romanium Imperium wrote:
Oterro wrote:
b/c it's from an old design for a volley gun for use by my navies and if I ever get to actually PT'ing it will be used by my navy


You want to see how effective musket balls can be against heavy cavalry? We can do some PT'ing. :P

Multiple barreled weapons existed by the way. Most famous one was called the Gatling Gun.


>rally square

The British Royal Navy had multi-barrelled guns before the Gatling gun. Been around since the 14th century IIRC.
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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Sat May 14, 2011 7:59 am

Romanium Imperium wrote:
Oterro wrote:
b/c it's from an old design for a volley gun for use by my navies and if I ever get to actually PT'ing it will be used by my navy


You want to see how effective musket balls can be against heavy cavalry? We can do some PT'ing. :P

Multiple barreled weapons existed by the way. Most famous one was called the Gatling Gun.

Never said they didn't, just said that multi-barreled rifles are stupid, because they are. I would rather have a regular canon with canister or grape shot than a Gatling gun, especially because you can just give it a huge bore diameter, have tons of musket balls, and a comparatively small gun.
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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Sat May 14, 2011 8:00 am

Oterro wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:Multi-barreled rifles for combat are stupid, just have it be a modified experimental army musket or something.


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what was that i couldnt hear you over the sound of my trusty irish sergeant

>implying i'll ever RP a PT war

Irish make awful soldiers, now Scots are good soldiers, Gurkhas are even better.
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Romanium Imperium
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Postby Romanium Imperium » Sat May 14, 2011 8:01 am

Irish are terrible soldiers? lolatyourignorance.

I'd take the Gatling Gun over cannon shot on the whole account it holds back charging infantry a fuck load better.
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By The Grace of The Gods, and Might of the Roman Legions; Romulus Aurelius Augustus, Emperor of Byzantium, Dictator of Nicaea, Kaisar of Greece, Consul and Princeps, First Among Equals, Beloved of Jupiter, Pontifex Maximus of Roma - Rightful and Only Caesar of Rome


Slave State and Proudly So.
And you STILL need a better reason than the above to invade.

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Oterro
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Postby Oterro » Sat May 14, 2011 8:02 am

The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
Oterro wrote:
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what was that i couldnt hear you over the sound of my trusty irish sergeant

>implying i'll ever RP a PT war

Irish make awful soldiers, now Scots are good soldiers, Gurkhas are even better.


yw for p. 900 btw

irish do not make awful soldiers

FAUGH A BALLAGH, FAUGH A BALLAGH, THE IRISH ARE COMING o/

sharpe wants a word btw
we, unlike the bourgeoisie, have nothing to lose and therefore our expression will be the only honest one, our words will be the only challenging ones and our art will be the one revolutionary expression. We need new noise and new voices and new canvases to become something more than the last poets of a useless generation.

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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Sat May 14, 2011 8:13 am

Made some minor fiddlings - fixed the size of the case ejector and the barrel to reflect the ammunition size - that case ejector was designed for a 7.62x51mm BR, not a 5.45x39mm bullpup.

However:
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That green shaded box is where the gas system has to go. Is there room in there for it? I'm thinking there might be, if the Micro Tavor is still gas-operated, that thing's tiny. There's 7mm of space, at a push.
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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Sat May 14, 2011 8:18 am

Romanium Imperium wrote:Irish are terrible soldiers? lolatyourignorance.

I'd take the Gatling Gun over cannon shot on the whole account it holds back charging infantry a fuck load better.

Except it doesn't since it can only fire about 100 rounds before it must reload, canister shot can carry several hundred balls.
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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Sat May 14, 2011 8:20 am

Oterro wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:Irish make awful soldiers, now Scots are good soldiers, Gurkhas are even better.


yw for p. 900 btw

irish do not make awful soldiers

FAUGH A BALLAGH, FAUGH A BALLAGH, THE IRISH ARE COMING o/

sharpe wants a word btw

A Canadian child pornography advocate wants a word with me? I am quite terrified tbh.
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Postby Romanium Imperium » Sat May 14, 2011 8:21 am

The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
Romanium Imperium wrote:Irish are terrible soldiers? lolatyourignorance.

I'd take the Gatling Gun over cannon shot on the whole account it holds back charging infantry a fuck load better.

Except it doesn't since it can only fire about 100 rounds before it must reload, canister shot can carry several hundred balls.


Yes, several hundred balls /once/ compared to the Gatling's continuous fire; and being it is a cumberously slow firer, the Gatling is the superior choice.
Imperium Romanum
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By The Grace of The Gods, and Might of the Roman Legions; Romulus Aurelius Augustus, Emperor of Byzantium, Dictator of Nicaea, Kaisar of Greece, Consul and Princeps, First Among Equals, Beloved of Jupiter, Pontifex Maximus of Roma - Rightful and Only Caesar of Rome


Slave State and Proudly So.
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Sat May 14, 2011 8:22 am

The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
Romanium Imperium wrote:Irish are terrible soldiers? lolatyourignorance.

I'd take the Gatling Gun over cannon shot on the whole account it holds back charging infantry a fuck load better.

Except it doesn't since it can only fire about 100 rounds before it must reload, canister shot can carry several hundred balls.

Most naval cannons of the 1700s only carried about 12 balls in their 'grapeshot' rounds, IIRC.
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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Sat May 14, 2011 8:23 am

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:Except it doesn't since it can only fire about 100 rounds before it must reload, canister shot can carry several hundred balls.

Most naval cannons of the 1700s only carried about 12 balls in their 'grapeshot' rounds, IIRC.

Canister, not grape shot, besides, grape shot could kill dozens of men, a bullet would be lucky to kill two.
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Postby Oterro » Sat May 14, 2011 8:24 am

The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
Oterro wrote:
yw for p. 900 btw

irish do not make awful soldiers

FAUGH A BALLAGH, FAUGH A BALLAGH, THE IRISH ARE COMING o/

sharpe wants a word btw

A Canadian child pornography advocate wants a word with me? I am quite terrified tbh.


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What was that?
we, unlike the bourgeoisie, have nothing to lose and therefore our expression will be the only honest one, our words will be the only challenging ones and our art will be the one revolutionary expression. We need new noise and new voices and new canvases to become something more than the last poets of a useless generation.

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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Sat May 14, 2011 8:25 am

Romanium Imperium wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:Except it doesn't since it can only fire about 100 rounds before it must reload, canister shot can carry several hundred balls.


Yes, several hundred balls /once/ compared to the Gatling's continuous fire; and being it is a cumberously slow firer, the Gatling is the superior choice.

Once again, continuous fire isn't really better. This was the age before small unit tactics were actually anything more advanced than how to lay down constant fire. Constant fire didn't matter because you weren't pinning anyone down, you were killing them outright, so RoF is less important than total output.
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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Sat May 14, 2011 8:29 am

Oterro wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:A Canadian child pornography advocate wants a word with me? I am quite terrified tbh.


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What was that?

Even Wikipedia doesn't care about him, they have articles on the least well known things, yet they don't have one on him. The have one on the pedo John Sharpe, the murderer John Sharpe, the physiologist Alexander Sharpe, the economist William Sharpe, but not him.
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Postby Oterro » Sat May 14, 2011 8:31 am

The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
Oterro wrote:
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What was that?

Even Wikipedia doesn't care about him, they have articles on the least well known things, yet they don't have one on him. The have one on the pedo John Sharpe, the murderer John Sharpe, the physiologist Alexander Sharpe, the economist William Sharpe, but not him.


Probably because he is a fictional character derp.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Sh ... aracter%29
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