MMW MkV thread. It's been fun.

[Ea90]

At that point it's basically advocating no training and "spray 'n' pray" tactics. No wonder we lost Iraq, Vietnam and Korea...

Look at Israel (who's tactics and organization I've loosely modeled mine on), they believe in highly trained small units, and they've won every war they've fought. They only use 556 because they want NATO to like them, and they think the skill of their troops can componsate for it.

That's debatable.

[New Corda]

Actually, the whole point of SALVO's finding was based on a limited burst of fire, compared to spray 'n' pray.
Funny you should mention Israel's use of 556, the US Army recently had to buy Israeli surplus ammunition because they're using so much of it in Afghanistan, and couldn't manufacture enough of it themselves.

1 billion small arms rounds fired per year with 250,000 per insurgent dropped is pretty astounding statistics, though also understandable.

Army training is abysmal, the Iraqis have said numerous times that they liked the Marines much better because they were much more experienced and confidant, they handled things much better then the Army, who seem to be much more skittish and trigger-happy, resulting in a lot more assaults on civilians.

If the fact that the people being OCCUPIED are saying they like one kind of soldier better, that really says something.

[New Corda]

At that point it's basically advocating no training and "spray 'n' pray" tactics. No wonder we lost Iraq, Vietnam and Korea...

Look at Israel (who's tactics and organization I've loosely modeled mine on), they believe in highly trained small units, and they've won every war they've fought. They only use 556 because they want NATO to like them, and they think the skill of their troops can componsate for it.

That's debatable.

Maybe, but I think as long as they survive their neighbor's assaults unoccupied the Israelis count it as winning. At least you have to admit theyve been much better at it then us

[Samozaryadnyastan]

In fairness, I think the USAF bombing of Baghdad in the Second and First Gulf Wars were somewhat more restrained with regards to civilian casualty and the general discretion of the bombing.

[The Republic of Lanos]

In fairness, I think the USAF bombing of Baghdad in the Second and First Gulf Wars were somewhat more restrained with regards to civilian casualty and the general discretion of the bombing.

Well then it was more of a general targeting of known enemy targets since the Iraqis used buildings that weren't civilian in nature. Terrorist groups, for some shit reason, just love to take cover in civilian buildings and gloat when the Israelis blow them up.

[Crookfur]

O! I see. And i remember them pancakes.

Ok well i cant really give you All of that. Its for a new rifle. But the Cal is .75, its made for an extreme range Anti metiral rifle. It loads into a bolt by placing the Bullet (No casing) Then the propellent charge. I wanted the Biggest bang in the smallest charge.

Ideas?

To quote (and expand a bit) my previous post:

BIOP: Even if you could provide all that I still couldn't porvide you with a specific pointer for a powder to use, you would need soemone who is REALLY into hand loading for that.

But you don't actually need it. You would be as well just go with a plainly genric description and since you are using what is in all but name caseless ammo just use the generic description from the LSAT caseless ammo.

[New Corda]

In fairness, I think the USAF bombing of Baghdad in the Second and First Gulf Wars were somewhat more restrained with regards to civilian casualty and the general discretion of the bombing.

The first gulf war was not a problem, it was quick and clean. The way this kind of forgien inter intervention should be done if at all

[BigTexas]

Our main military weapon is the F-22

Who needs ground forces when you have a hundred of these?
Not only does it have stealth it also has the center body bomb bay, then wing bays.
Using a M61A2 as its vulcan cannon.

It can go up to speeds of Mach 2. I mean, who would want to mess with this?

[Samozaryadnyastan]

Other air superiority fighters? Air defence systems?

It was only possible because of not just how large the UN-backed force was, but the willingness of nearby countries (Saudi Arabia) to harbour such forces, persuading Israel not to join the force, and how underequipped and badly motivated the Iraqi army was. It was basically like how the Poles charged German armour on horseback prior to the Second World War.

[The Republic of Lanos]

Our main military weapon is the F-22

Who needs ground forces when you have a hundred of these?
Not only does it have stealth it also has the center body bomb bay, then wing bays.
Using a M61A2 as its vulcan cannon.

It can go up to speeds of Mach 2. I mean, who would want to mess with this?

You can control the skies and the seas but the control of real estate on the ground is determined by the forward tip of the rifleman's bayonet.

[Amerikians]

This is why I just stuck with .30-06 and .45 @ the round argument

[New Corda]

Our main military weapon is the F-22

Who needs ground forces when you have a hundred of these?
Not only does it have stealth it also has the center body bomb bay, then wing bays.
Using a M61A2 as its vulcan cannon.

It can go up to speeds of Mach 2. I mean, who would want to mess with this?

You can control the skies and the seas but the control of real estate on the ground is determined by the forward tip of the rifleman's bayonet.

^this.

No point haveing a lot of aircraft if my Marines can sneak unoposed into your territory and slaughter your pilots on the ground. All I would need is a couple squads and a electronics jamming suite, and your forces would be finished in a few weeks

[Anemos Major]

Our main military weapon is the F-22

Who needs ground forces when you have a hundred of these?
Not only does it have stealth it also has the center body bomb bay, then wing bays.
Using a M61A2 as its vulcan cannon.

It can go up to speeds of Mach 2. I mean, who would want to mess with this?

Pick me! Pick me!

[Amerikians]

You can control the skies and the seas but the control of real estate on the ground is determined by the forward tip of the rifleman's bayonet.

^this.

No point haveing a lot of aircraft if my Marines can sneak unoposed into your territory and slaughter your pilots on the ground. All I would need is a couple squads and a electronics jamming suite, and your forces would be finished in a few weeks

AFBs have security brigades too. Not that I'm advocating the "all I have is an Air force" sthitck.

[Immoren]

Our main military weapon is the F-22

Who needs ground forces when you have a hundred of these?
Not only does it have stealth it also has the center body bomb bay, then wing bays.
Using a M61A2 as its vulcan cannon.

It can go up to speeds of Mach 2. I mean, who would want to mess with this?

And if you can't see targets on ground?

[New Corda]

^this.

No point haveing a lot of aircraft if my Marines can sneak unoposed into your territory and slaughter your pilots on the ground. All I would need is a couple squads and a electronics jamming suite, and your forces would be finished in a few weeks

AFBs have security brigades too. Not that I'm advocating the "all I have is an Air force" sthitck.

Typically an ABF SecFor is useless against experienced infantry, typically they only have the defense equation going for them. And because I dont follow traditional attack/defense formulas, they wouldnt be all that effective.

[The Republic of Lanos]

Our main military weapon is the F-22

Who needs ground forces when you have a hundred of these?
Not only does it have stealth it also has the center body bomb bay, then wing bays.
Using a M61A2 as its vulcan cannon.

It can go up to speeds of Mach 2. I mean, who would want to mess with this?

And if you can't see targets on ground?

Forget not seeing targets, it's the opposing ground force having shitloads of anti-air missiles just because the force they're fighting happens to be just an air force.

[Anemos Major]

AFBs have security brigades too. Not that I'm advocating the "all I have is an Air force" sthitck.

Typically an ABF SecFor is useless against experienced infantry, typically they only have the defense equation going for them. And because I dont follow traditional attack/defense formulas, they wouldnt be all that effective.

Of course, that's assuming that the OPFOR's AFB Security is of 'normal' standards. If their armed forces have no other infantry whatsoever, it wouldn't be unreasonable to assume that what infantry they have are well trained.

Frankly, though, you don't even need to attack the bases. Just isolate them, and their nothing-but-Raptors forces will quickly be grounded.

[Amerikians]

And if you can't see targets on ground?

Forget not seeing targets, it's the opposing ground force having shitloads of anti-air missiles just because the force they're fighting happens to be just an air force.

And oversecting radar signals negate stealth...Oooo bad day -Wince-.

[New Corda]

Typically an ABF SecFor is useless against experienced infantry, typically they only have the defense equation going for them. And because I dont follow traditional attack/defense formulas, they wouldnt be all that effective.

Of course, that's assuming that the OPFOR's AFB Security is of 'normal' standards. If their armed forces have no other infantry whatsoever, it wouldn't be unreasonable to assume that what infantry they have are well trained.

Frankly, though, you don't even need to attack the bases. Just isolate them, and their nothing-but-Raptors forces will quickly be grounded.

That's what I mean by non-traditional attack/defense formulas. As Sun Tzu says, never attack forts unless you absolutely have to. My troops are highly mobile and prefer going after supply lines and isolated firebases then direct assaults.

[Gawdzendia]

Of course, that's assuming that the OPFOR's AFB Security is of 'normal' standards. If their armed forces have no other infantry whatsoever, it wouldn't be unreasonable to assume that what infantry they have are well trained.

Frankly, though, you don't even need to attack the bases. Just isolate them, and their nothing-but-Raptors forces will quickly be grounded.

That's what I mean by non-traditional attack/defense formulas. As Sun Tzu says, never attack forts unless you absolutely have to. My troops are highly mobile and prefer going after supply lines and isolated firebases then direct assaults.

Sun Tzu didn't have aircraft or long range weapons either. I'm not saying any of his wisdom went out the door with the dawning of the modern era, but we have work around's now to problems of that particular age of warfare.

Also, tactical nukes.

[Amerikians]

That's what I mean by non-traditional attack/defense formulas. As Sun Tzu says, never attack forts unless you absolutely have to. My troops are highly mobile and prefer going after supply lines and isolated firebases then direct assaults.

Sun Tzu didn't have aircraft or long range weapons either. I'm not saying any of his wisdom went out the door with the dawning of the modern era, but we have work around's now to problems of that particular age of warfare.

Also, tactical nukes.

Er, he did have long rang weapons...

[Gawdzendia]

Sun Tzu didn't have aircraft or long range weapons either. I'm not saying any of his wisdom went out the door with the dawning of the modern era, but we have work around's now to problems of that particular age of warfare.

Also, tactical nukes.

Er, he did have long rang weapons...

I hardly consider siege weapons of the era and the Chu-Ko-Nu to be long range, which was also invented centuries after Sun Tzu died.

[Samozaryadnyastan]

Sun Tzu didn't have aircraft or long range weapons either. I'm not saying any of his wisdom went out the door with the dawning of the modern era, but we have work around's now to problems of that particular age of warfare.

Also, tactical nukes.

Er, he did have long rang weapons...

Pretty sure an M777 outranges a Longbow bolt by a couple dozen kilometres. And is a damn sight more effective.

[The Great Republic of Slovenia]

stick, any size, but big ones are encouraged