MMW MkV thread. It's been fun.

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

That's why they're beautiful. They say: 'hey look at me. I'm beautiful, and I can still kick your ass. Just like any Russian woman.'

More like, I'm overdecorated and fake to make it look like you didn't mail order me. Touché

Ahahaha... oh wait you're serious. Let me laugh a little harder. Pfft. Peasants just can't understand.

[New Corda]

More like, I'm overdecorated and fake to make it look like you didn't mail order me. Touché

Ahahaha... oh wait you're serious. Let me laugh a little harder. Pfft. Peasants just can't understand.

Maybe they can't, but they CAN give you a REALLY bad October...

[New Corda]

Ah, an exquisite Automag. Much nicer. All the better for being American as well.

If the AK is the overrated blonde porn star, then the Mosin is the 2$ hooker. Cheap, common, ugly and more likely to give you herpes than a good time.

Give me an ACR or a TAR-21: sexy, rare, classy, expensive and looks great in black. Like redheads.

I see your ACR/TAR-21 and raise you a sexy, rare, classy, expensive, black blued Walther PP presentation pistol (that I don't own, but did appraise for the local owner)!

•is not amused by little purse gun•

[Spreewerke]

It's a satchel. All the hipsters got 'em, man.

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

Ahahaha... oh wait you're serious. Let me laugh a little harder. Pfft. Peasants just can't understand.

Maybe they can't, but they CAN give you a REALLY bad October...

All I'm saying is, if you're royalty, you've got to be grand and flamboyant. Just to remind them of who is in charge.

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

See? The first estate gets it.

[New Corda]

Maybe they can't, but they CAN give you a REALLY bad October...

All I'm saying is, if you're royalty, you've got to be grand and flamboyant. Just to remind them of who is in charge.

Well, in that case, you gotta go with cannons.

Last arguement of Kings, yo.

It's a satchel. All the hipsters got 'em, man.

You fool. It is in fact a European Shoulder Bag

I'm suprized you didn't bring out the Daewoo. Now, while it is cheap and Asian, it's relatively rare, has classy piston action, sexy grey and black furniture, and a sleek asthetic. With a little more rails and/or AR-18/Galil influnces...

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

All I'm saying is, if you're royalty, you've got to be grand and flamboyant. Just to remind them of who is in charge.

Well, in that case, you gotta go with cannons.

Last arguement of Kings, yo.

It's a satchel. All the hipsters got 'em, man.

You fool. It is in fact a European Shoulder Bag

I'm suprized you didn't bring out the Daewoo. Now, while it is cheap and Asian, it's relatively rare, has classy piston action, sexy grey and black furniture, and a sleek asthetic. With a little more rails and/or AR-18/Galil influnces...

Cannon fire. Then thundering voice of authority. Also, Galil is one of the sexiest modern firearms around. Period.

[New Corda]

See? The first estate gets it.

Yeah, the first estates DID get it. Real good. In the neck. Just ask Louis XVI. Oh wait...

Also, I do love Galils, they combine the few things I like about AKs with many things I like about western rifles: rails on the reciever, selector switches that make sense, good ergonomics, nice handguards and a general setup that doesn't feel like holding a 2x4 with a pipe duct taped to it. Oh yeah, and a magazine that isnt a total bitch...

[Spreewerke]

I was going to break them out next, actually.

Also, you can get quad-rails for the 'Woos. They're about $350.00, though, but... you know, not too bad.

Not my image:

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

See? The first estate gets it.

Yeah, the first estates DID get it. Real good. In the neck. Just ask Louis XVI. Oh wait...

Also, I do love Galils, they combine the few things I like about AKs with many things I like about western rifles: rails on the reciever, selector switches that make sense, good ergonomics, nice handguards and a general setup that doesn't feel like holding a 2x4 with a pipe duct taped to it. Oh yeah, and a magazine that isnt a total bitch...

You silly capitalist baby-men and your luxuries. Real man, beat enemy to death with rifle, if he can't figure it out.

More to the point, the Galil is a miracle of east and west coming together. The ruggedness and efficiency of a Kalashnikov, and the luxuries of the western world. [i]It even has a bottle opener.[/url]

EDIT: I was about to fix that BBC, but I think I'll leave it there, as a reminder of the dangers of late night posting.

[Allmann]

You can still be accurate with a smaller rifle, the point of a bullpup is to allow for a smaller design for better maneuverability, and far less weight than a traditional rifle. What's the point of moving the whole trigger grouping back, if you get none of the pros typically associated with bullpups?

The point of the bullpup is have a massively increased barrel length for the same overall length as a traditional rifle.

>:<

Well yes, my bullpup is somewhat smaller than the 'regular' rifle but not that much. I based the length of the rifle after the Morita (only long bullpup I could find) and besides, why can't bullpups be about the same length as a 'regular' rifle?

[Spreewerke]

Yeah, the first estates DID get it. Real good. In the neck. Just ask Louis XVI. Oh wait...

Also, I do love Galils, they combine the few things I like about AKs with many things I like about western rifles: rails on the reciever, selector switches that make sense, good ergonomics, nice handguards and a general setup that doesn't feel like holding a 2x4 with a pipe duct taped to it. Oh yeah, and a magazine that isnt a total bitch...

You silly capitalist baby-men and your luxuries. Real man, beat enemy to death with rifle, if he can't figure it out.

More to the point, the Galil is a miracle of east and west coming together. The ruggedness and efficiency of a Kalashnikov, and the luxuries of the western world. [i]It even has a bottle opener.[/url]

EDIT: I was about to fix that BBC, but I think I'll leave it there, as a reminder of the dangers of late night posting.

The Daewoo K2 combines the long-stroke piston of the AK series, the gas block and gas plug of the FN FAL, and the ergonomics, magazines, and accuracy of the M16 series.

It's closer to an east-meets-west, in my opinion, than a Galil is. Heck, they even made a 7.62x39mm variant for commercial export (they sucked, though).

[New Corda]

I was going to break them out next, actually.

(Image)

Also, you can get quad-rails for the 'Woos. They're about $350.00, though, but... you know, not too bad.

Not my image:
(Image)

Replace that sight with an EOTech, and add moar Magpul, and I know exactly what I'm saveing up for... Now if only they made 6.8 SPC barrels... A well, I'd rather have 5.56 on a civie rifle anyho, it's cheaper and kills paper terrorists just as well.

EDIT: Derp, looked at fullview of image (fuck you, Apple), noticed there is sufficient Magpul. Although PRS or ACS stock and MBUS sights would be appreciated...

[Raziac]

1st off, I'm new. Secondly:
Rifle:
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn400/maxboznl/G3Marksman.jpg
Pistol:

The Protectorate of Raziac has a One shot, One kill philosophy, therefore the rifle is chambered in the LOT heavy hunting round, and the pistol in a 1 inch diameter shotgun cartridge.

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

1st off, I'm new. Secondly:
Rifle:
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn400/maxboznl/G3Marksman.jpg
Pistol:
(Image)

Welcome to NS. Enjoy your stay.

(Don't take anything anyone says seriously. We can be asses sometimes.)

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

I want to see this in .338LM glory.

[Spreewerke]

I was going to break them out next, actually.

(Image)

Also, you can get quad-rails for the 'Woos. They're about $350.00, though, but... you know, not too bad.

Not my image:
(Image)

Replace that sight with an EOTech, and add moar Magpul, and I know exactly what I'm saveing up for... Now if only they made 6.8 SPC barrels... A well, I'd rather have 5.56 on a civie rifle anyho, it's cheaper and kills paper terrorists just as well.

Okay,


Also, Daewoos will accept BLANK AR-15 barrels (that is, no gas port drilled) with some tweaking and mild gunsmithing. I would assume that, if the 6.8SPC barrels are just as thick as the 5.56 barrels and it used STANAG magazines (or am I thinking of 6.5?), you could get yourself a 6.8SPC Daewoo.


EDIT TO ADD: Oh, and if 5.56 bolts won't latch on to 6.8SPC, you'll have to make your own bolt.

They're similar to AR bolts, but are not interchangeable.

[Raziac]

1st off, I'm new. Secondly:
Rifle:
http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn400/maxboznl/G3Marksman.jpg
Pistol:
(Image)

Welcome to NS. Enjoy your stay.

(Don't take anything anyone says seriously. We can be asses sometimes.)

Understood.
Machine Gun:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/11/pimpmygun2.jpg/

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

Welcome to NS. Enjoy your stay.

(Don't take anything anyone says seriously. We can be asses sometimes.)

Understood.
Machine Gun:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/11/pimpmygun2.jpg/

A man named Kouralia will show up soon and take you to thread where you can get some design tips for your weapons. Don't be afraid. He won't bite.

[New Corda]

Replace that sight with an EOTech, and add moar Magpul, and I know exactly what I'm saveing up for... Now if only they made 6.8 SPC barrels... A well, I'd rather have 5.56 on a civie rifle anyho, it's cheaper and kills paper terrorists just as well.

Okay,


Also, Daewoos will accept BLANK AR-15 barrels (that is, no gas port drilled) with some tweaking and mild gunsmithing. I would assume that, if the 6.8SPC barrels are just as thick as the 5.56 barrels and it used STANAG magazines (or am I thinking of 6.5?), you could get yourself a 6.8SPC Daewoo.


EDIT TO ADD: Oh, and if 5.56 bolts won't latch on to 6.8SPC, you'll have to make your own bolt.

They're similar to AR bolts, but are not interchangeable.

Well, you owe me a new pair of boxers. Bastard.

I'm actively considering funneling money from my M1911 build into a Daewoo fund...

[Fischermann]

Just noticed something at the only gunshop where I live.

I think the guy has a Valtro PM5 for sale. Though I couldn't see it well, the general shape implies that it might be one.

He also had other oddities as well, I might check sometime.

The firearm blog has blueprints on the StG-44.

[Spreewerke]

Okay,
(Image)

Also, Daewoos will accept BLANK AR-15 barrels (that is, no gas port drilled) with some tweaking and mild gunsmithing. I would assume that, if the 6.8SPC barrels are just as thick as the 5.56 barrels and it used STANAG magazines (or am I thinking of 6.5?), you could get yourself a 6.8SPC Daewoo.


EDIT TO ADD: Oh, and if 5.56 bolts won't latch on to 6.8SPC, you'll have to make your own bolt.

They're similar to AR bolts, but are not interchangeable.

Well, you owe me a new pair of boxers. Bastard.

I'm actively considering funneling money from my M1911 build into a Daewoo fund...

A full DR200 conversion to pre-ban status while being 6.8SPC (maybe: that'd take a shit-ton of work) would probably run you close to $2,000.00+. Granted, I've never seen a part break on a Daewoo... It's good because I've never seen a spare part for a Daewoo outside of Daewoo Rifle Parts's website.

But yeah, expect to pay around $1,200 for the rifle itself, another $400 (give or take) for conversion parts to meet 922r when swapping out the thumbhole stock, $50 for a not-crap safety switch (90* is so much better than the stock 180*), and you've got a fairly expensive (but freakin' awesome!) .223 Rem. "assault" rifle. I only recommend .223 out of the DR200s (post-ban) because of their 1:12 twist rate. Pre-bans are 1:9, so surplus 5.56 is good in 'em. Those rifles are neat, too, but rare, so I wouldn't make it your "experiment" rifle.

TL:DR -- Expect to drop a lot of money on this project. I'd say $2,000.00+ for a 6.8SPC conversion (if possible) and about $1,500 - $1,700 for a regular .223 Rem. post-ban-to-pre-ban conversion.


FAKE EDIT: I believe the DR200 has NATO (5.56) chambers, so surplus M193 FMJ should work in it, but that's about it. Anything above 60gr. and you'll lose accuracy and stability in the DR200's 1:12 barrel.

Daewoo's are awesome, but thanks to Kimber's "NO!!! 1:12 barrels ONLY!" policy in the post-ban days (retards), you've pretty much got to drop a lot of cash to get "your" Daewoo. That being said, even with their limitations, they're my favourite 5.56/.223 platform.


LEGIT EDIT: Basically, if you're okay with a lot of gunsmithing and metal work and have the time/money for it, it would be awesome if you could successfully pursue the idea of a 6.8SPC Daewoo rifle. It'd definitely be something you'd never want to sell, that's for sure.

[New Corda]

Well, you owe me a new pair of boxers. Bastard.

I'm actively considering funneling money from my M1911 build into a Daewoo fund...

A full DR200 conversion to pre-ban status while being 6.8SPC (maybe: that'd take a shit-ton of work) would probably run you close to $2,000.00+. Granted, I've never seen a part break on a Daewoo... It's good because I've never seen a spare part for a Daewoo outside of Daewoo Rifle Parts's website.

But yeah, expect to pay around $1,200 for the rifle itself, another $400 (give or take) for conversion parts to meet 922r when swapping out the thumbhole stock, $50 for a not-crap safety switch (90* is so much better than the stock 180*), and you've got a fairly expensive (but freakin' awesome!) .223 Rem. "assault" rifle. I only recommend .223 out of the DR200s (post-ban) because of their 1:12 twist rate. Pre-bans are 1:9, so surplus 5.56 is good in 'em. Those rifles are neat, too, but rare, so I wouldn't make it your "experiment" rifle.

TL:DR -- Expect to drop a lot of money on this project. I'd say $2,000.00+ for a 6.8SPC conversion (if possible) and about $1,500 - $1,700 for a regular .223 Rem. post-ban-to-pre-ban conversion.


FAKE EDIT: I believe the DR200 has NATO (5.56) chambers, so surplus M193 FMJ should work in it, but that's about it. Anything above 60gr. and you'll lose accuracy and stability in the DR200's 1:12 barrel.

Daewoo's are awesome, but thanks to Kimber's "NO!!! 1:12 barrels ONLY!" policy in the post-ban days (retards), you've pretty much got to drop a lot of cash to get "your" Daewoo. That being said, even with their limitations, they're my favourite 5.56/.223 platform.


LEGIT EDIT: Basically, if you're okay with a lot of gunsmithing and metal work and have the time/money for it, it would be awesome if you could successfully pursue the idea of a 6.8SPC Daewoo rifle. It'd definitely be something you'd never want to sell, that's for sure.

I'd probably go .223 or 5.56, sheerly because my only objection to that round involves attacking and killing people, which is something I hope I never have to do. It's a hell of a lot cheaper, and it puts holes in targets (and those goddamn rabbits that shit all over my yard) very nicely.

I intend to get my gunsmiths license (probably via overnight correspondence courses during Law school) in which case I hope to one day have some very nice build pictures for y'all

[Our Most Resplendent Goddess Sen]

Hate to use logic on you here, but if you ban semi-automatics, [i]"it's no secret that people who want to kill as many people as possible [will] prefer semi-automatic bolt-action weapons [....]"

Criminals aren't just going to say "Aw, shucky-darn! I can't kill anyone now," if you ban semi-automatics. They will just continue to not give a shit and use whatever they please regardless. That being said, if some street thug 4lyfe decides my house looks like it could contain some things he could sell for some more meffs money, he might decide to bring his semi-automatic "gat." I, too, will bring my semi-automatic "gat" if I happen to be home when he goes in for the theft. It will level the playing field... well, actually, I'd have the upper hand. Why? I, with the semi-automatic AK-103 clone that I have trained with, will be far more efficient with my weapon than the criminal will be who, most likely, stole theirs a week before they decided to commit the crime.

What's easier to kill a load of people with, a bolt-action or a semi-automatic? You mentioned yourself that you prefer a semi-automatic because of the faster rate of fire and if I ever got the urge to shoot up a mall, I'd be thinking the same way. You can still hunt with a bolt action, you can still shoot feral animals with a bolt action and you can still have a little bit of fun with a bolt action therefore I can fully understand why we have these restrictions in place; because nobody actually needs a semi-automatic. Doesn't mean I like them, doesn't mean I hate semi-automatics, but it means I understand what these restrictions are for.

Your own country's firearm ban did a nice job of demonstrating that the presence of firearms has no noticeable effect on preexisting crime trends. Which is to be expected, really, since societal conditions for the lower classes are what drive crime, not the presence of some specific tool.