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Postby New Corda » Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:41 am

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AR-10 from Armalite.


Man, I wish they still made the newer AR-10s like that instead of AR-15A2 styles...


Eh, that charging handle looks kinda groady...
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Postby The Republic of Lanos » Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:42 am

New Corda wrote:
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Man, I wish they still made the newer AR-10s like that instead of AR-15A2 styles...


Eh, that charging handle looks kinda groady...


But that's the classic AR-10. Not the AR-10s they make now.

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Postby Allmann » Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:43 am

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Self Loading Rifle 7 and 8.

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Postby Hibernion (Ancient) » Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:43 am

We have a pistol unique to Hibernion called the Delta Mark IV
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Postby Digitia Klosetia » Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:49 am

Just plain ol' dakka (never quite enough, though)

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Postby New Corda » Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:13 am

Digitia Klosetia wrote:Just plain ol' dakka (never quite enough, though)



Needs moar dakka.
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Postby New Corda » Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:15 am

Hibernion wrote:We have a pistol unique to Hibernion called the Delta Mark IV


So, like a Colt Delta Elite, but with Mark IV on the end?

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Postby The Ottish Empire » Wed Jun 13, 2012 3:10 pm

Allmann wrote:

Self Loading Rifle 7 and 8.

Cartridge: 6.5×55mm
Action: Gas-operating tilting breechblock
Rate of fire: ? (Do not know what it should be)
Muzzle velocity: ? (Do not know what it should be)
Effective range: ? (Do not know what it should be)
Feed system: 20 round detachable box magazine.
Sights: Iron sights, telescopic sight with 3x magnification.

The point of a bullpup-type rifle is to make use of wasted space in the stock of a rifle, while also decreasing the overall length of the rifle. That bullpup design (SLR 8?) should be much smaller than it appears to be, also the pistol grip on the first one looks wholly uncomfortable. As for the Rate of Fire, muzzle velocity, and effective range, go to the wikipedia page of a similar rifle, and base it off of that.
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:06 pm

Digitia Klosetia wrote:Just plain ol' dakka (never quite enough, though)


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Postby Spreewerke » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:11 pm

40,000 rounds of 7.62x39mm = ~1 literal ton (2,000 pounds) of ammunition.

7.62x39mm ammunition is typically around $0.20 per round for civilians (probably less for militaries), and even then that would mean...

$8,000.00

I would assume this is less than a laser-guided, infantry-portable missile.

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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:15 pm

Javelin is supposedly nudging $40,000
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Postby Fischermann » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:16 pm

The Ottish Empire wrote:
Allmann wrote:

Self Loading Rifle 7 and 8.

Cartridge: 6.5×55mm
Action: Gas-operating tilting breechblock
Rate of fire: ? (Do not know what it should be)
Muzzle velocity: ? (Do not know what it should be)
Effective range: ? (Do not know what it should be)
Feed system: 20 round detachable box magazine.
Sights: Iron sights, telescopic sight with 3x magnification.

The point of a bullpup-type rifle is to make use of wasted space in the stock of a rifle, while also decreasing the overall length of the rifle. That bullpup design (SLR 8?) should be much smaller than it appears to be, also the pistol grip on the first one looks wholly uncomfortable. As for the Rate of Fire, muzzle velocity, and effective range, go to the wikipedia page of a similar rifle, and base it off of that.


If you ask me bullpups can be used as ''Sniper rifle in assault rifle length'' as well. If his country's infantry doctrine is about marksmanship and accuracy that bullpup would make sense. And judging from the cartridge, I'm thinking he does use that doctrine.
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Postby Yes Im Biop » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:24 pm

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:Javelin is supposedly nudging $40,000


I thought it was 80,000$
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:28 pm

Depends on source. After all, TOW (the standard version) can vary from 40k to 200k per missile depending on your source.
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Postby Galla- » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:39 pm

New Corda wrote:
Hibernion wrote:We have a pistol unique to Hibernion called the Delta Mark IV


So, like a Colt Delta Elite, but with Mark IV on the end?

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Postby The Ottish Empire » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:47 pm

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The Ottish Empire wrote:The point of a bullpup-type rifle is to make use of wasted space in the stock of a rifle, while also decreasing the overall length of the rifle. That bullpup design (SLR 8?) should be much smaller than it appears to be, also the pistol grip on the first one looks wholly uncomfortable. As for the Rate of Fire, muzzle velocity, and effective range, go to the wikipedia page of a similar rifle, and base it off of that.


If you ask me bullpups can be used as ''Sniper rifle in assault rifle length'' as well. If his country's infantry doctrine is about marksmanship and accuracy that bullpup would make sense. And judging from the cartridge, I'm thinking he does use that doctrine.

You can still be accurate with a smaller rifle, the point of a bullpup is to allow for a smaller design for better maneuverability, and far less weight than a traditional rifle. What's the point of moving the whole trigger grouping back, if you get none of the pros typically associated with bullpups?
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Postby Yes Im Biop » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:51 pm

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:Depends on source. After all, TOW (the standard version) can vary from 40k to 200k per missile depending on your source.


200,000$? Holy shit... Thats insane.
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:54 pm

Yes Im Biop wrote:
Samozaryadnyastan wrote:Depends on source. After all, TOW (the standard version) can vary from 40k to 200k per missile depending on your source.


200,000$? Holy shit... Thats insane.

But how does that compare, say, to the cost of a TOW Missile? According to the Federation of American Scientists, whose numbers are copied by other sites, the price of one TOW missile (the missile itself and not the system) is $180,000.00. According to this sketchy website, and soldier mythology, the price of one TOW missile is currently around $60,000.00.

The U.S. military uses plenty of TOW missiles in Afghanistan because of their unique ability to “reach out and touch someone”. One of the platoons in my battalion--1st Platoon, “Dragon Platoon”--fired over a 100 of these missiles during deployment.

In other words, that single platoon, by itself, fired between 6-18 million dollars worth of TOW missiles in the span of one deployment. Just that platoon. At the same time, the CAI had an operating budget of 13 million dollars. In other words, Dragon Platoon fired the budget of the CAI during their deployment.

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Postby Galla- » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:56 pm

The Ottish Empire wrote:
Fischermann wrote:
If you ask me bullpups can be used as ''Sniper rifle in assault rifle length'' as well. If his country's infantry doctrine is about marksmanship and accuracy that bullpup would make sense. And judging from the cartridge, I'm thinking he does use that doctrine.

You can still be accurate with a smaller rifle, the point of a bullpup is to allow for a smaller design for better maneuverability, and far less weight than a traditional rifle. What's the point of moving the whole trigger grouping back, if you get none of the pros typically associated with bullpups?


The point of the bullpup is have a massively increased barrel length for the same overall length as a traditional rifle.

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Postby Yes Im Biop » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:58 pm

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:
Yes Im Biop wrote:
200,000$? Holy shit... Thats insane.

But how does that compare, say, to the cost of a TOW Missile? According to the Federation of American Scientists, whose numbers are copied by other sites, the price of one TOW missile (the missile itself and not the system) is $180,000.00. According to this sketchy website, and soldier mythology, the price of one TOW missile is currently around $60,000.00.

The U.S. military uses plenty of TOW missiles in Afghanistan because of their unique ability to “reach out and touch someone”. One of the platoons in my battalion--1st Platoon, “Dragon Platoon”--fired over a 100 of these missiles during deployment.

In other words, that single platoon, by itself, fired between 6-18 million dollars worth of TOW missiles in the span of one deployment. Just that platoon. At the same time, the CAI had an operating budget of 13 million dollars. In other words, Dragon Platoon fired the budget of the CAI during their deployment.

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CAI? Am i missing something? Ether way that's still a lot of tax dollars going into Rockets.
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Postby New Corda » Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:00 pm

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So, like a Colt Delta Elite, but with Mark IV on the end?

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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:03 pm

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CAI? Am i missing something? Ether way that's still a lot of tax dollars going into Rockets.

Central Asia Institute.
A 'charity' that misused several million dollars of funding.

The article is saying yes, the fact that they fudged their finances and skimmed money from their own coffers is deplorable, but utterly dwarfed by routine government spending in Iraq. It goes on to say how AC in the 'Stan costs the Army 20.2 billion dollars a year.

$180,000 for a wire-guided anti tank missile is ridiculous. Hellfire, a semi-active laser-guided top-attack missile capable of radio guidance as well costs £82,000 which is somewhere between $100k and $120k
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Postby Yes Im Biop » Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:04 pm

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:
Yes Im Biop wrote:
CAI? Am i missing something? Ether way that's still a lot of tax dollars going into Rockets.

Central Asia Institute.
A 'charity' that misused several million dollars of funding.

The article is saying yes, the fact that they fudged their finances and skimmed money from their own coffers is deplorable, but utterly dwarfed by routine government spending in Iraq. It goes on to say how AC in the 'Stan costs the Army 20.2 billion dollars a year.


I approve of military spending...But shit with 200,000$ I Could live happily for a long time
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Postby Sanctus Pacis » Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:29 pm

The Standard Issue rifle of the Military of Sanctus Pacis is the AEK-972.
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