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Postby New Corda » Sun May 27, 2012 8:03 pm

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ART-18A4, a battle rifle derived from the AR-18 chambered in 7.5x50mm CAR

Nice detailing.


Thanks, I used a lot of AR-18 for that reciver
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Postby Galla- » Sun May 27, 2012 8:05 pm

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Yup.

Evidently two barrels of 7.62 was just too much manliness for one rifle.
And yet in your previous post you said it was 5.56.


Erm...that's because it was 5.56mm?

The whole point was to maximise rounds fired, hence the double barrels and lightweight round.
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Postby New Corda » Sun May 27, 2012 8:05 pm

Also, reposting for Spirit:

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Postby Our Most Resplendent Goddess Sen » Sun May 27, 2012 8:06 pm

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You want lasers?

You want MUTHAFUCKING LASERS?

HAVE SOME LASER DEATH RAYS

I've been to that sight before, and the sight I posted links to it. However do you suggest Kilometer in diameter free electron x-ray death lasers? Capable of killing an enemy ship at 1 Light Hour? Cause thats one of the weapons they suggest!

Last the sight is about all aspects of future warfare, from ship designs to food requirements.


I am perfectly aware of Atomic rockets. I have had it bookmarked for, oh, at least five years or so and have read through the entire thing on more than one occasion.
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Postby Spirit of Hope » Sun May 27, 2012 8:08 pm

New Corda wrote:Also, reposting for Spirit:

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Yayyyy!!!!!

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Spirit of Hope wrote:I've been to that sight before, and the sight I posted links to it. However do you suggest Kilometer in diameter free electron x-ray death lasers? Capable of killing an enemy ship at 1 Light Hour? Cause thats one of the weapons they suggest!

Last the sight is about all aspects of future warfare, from ship designs to food requirements.


I am perfectly aware of Atomic rockets. I have had it bookmarked for, oh, at least five years or so and have read through the entire thing on more than one occasion.


About a year and a half, once or twice. between them and some other sights I have the idea for some very scary warships...
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Postby New Corda » Sun May 27, 2012 8:17 pm

Now I need a cold-warey red dot or scope for it...
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Postby Our Most Resplendent Goddess Sen » Sun May 27, 2012 8:19 pm

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Postby Alimeria II » Sun May 27, 2012 8:23 pm

Well you can substitute the under-powered M16 there. But I get the point is to show a Night-Vision scope.

Wikipedia wrote: The Salvo Rifle was chambered for the experimental 5.56mm T65 Duplex cartridge, based on a long-necked variant of the 7.62mm NATO cartridge case loaded with a pair of conventional projectiles.
So it kind of did use 7.62 even if based which is a better round the 5.56.
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Postby New Corda » Sun May 27, 2012 8:28 pm

Would the SUSAT be realistic?
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Sun May 27, 2012 8:30 pm

New Corda wrote:Would the SUSAT be realistic?

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/arch ... 94295.html
Scroll down to a poster called 'Toast', he posted a number of CW optics, but they all seem to have come from later parts of the 'war'. Excepting the starlight, ofc.

There is the Trilux (SUIT) that looks similar to SUSAT and may be a precursor scope. It was used on the L1A1 SLR.
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Postby New Corda » Sun May 27, 2012 8:40 pm

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:
New Corda wrote:Would the SUSAT be realistic?

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/arch ... 94295.html
Scroll down to a poster called 'Toast', he posted a number of CW optics, but they all seem to have come from later parts of the 'war'. Excepting the starlight, ofc.

There is the Trilux (SUIT) that looks similar to SUSAT and may be a precursor scope. It was used on the L1A1 SLR.


Thanks, I think I'm going with the Colt 4X, because it fits with the style I'm going for. Also making a PSG1-esque varient :P
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Postby Our Most Resplendent Goddess Sen » Sun May 27, 2012 8:43 pm

Alimeria II wrote:Well you can substitute the under-powered M16 there. But I get the point is to show a Night-Vision scope.

Wikipedia wrote: The Salvo Rifle was chambered for the experimental 5.56mm T65 Duplex cartridge, based on a long-necked variant of the 7.62mm NATO cartridge case loaded with a pair of conventional projectiles.
So it kind of did use 7.62 even if based which is a better round the 5.56.


... sort of.

The bullets they were using were so light that even though each shot fired two the recoil would still be quite a bit less than a round of regular 7.62 NATO.
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Postby New Corda » Sun May 27, 2012 8:52 pm

The ART-18A family of rifles

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Postby Spreewerke » Sun May 27, 2012 10:21 pm

A good Cold-War era style scope would be something like the POSP series. They're still in use, after all: pretty advanced for being as "simple" as they are.

Also, going to check the limits on overall length on a shotgun before it goes into NFA/Short-barreled Shotgun/Class III territory. Dug out my single-shot break-open 20 Gauge I haven't touched since I was ten or twelve years old. The girlfriend and I cleaned it up real nice (looks brand new except for the barrel that I fudged: everything she worked on is in 99% condition :eyebrow: ). It has a 20" barrel, so I'll probably chop it down to the standard limit of 18". If the overall length suffices, I might also cut down the stock into a pistol grip-style thing. It'd be pretty bitchin'.

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Postby Galla- » Sun May 27, 2012 10:24 pm

Spreewerke wrote:A good Cold-War era style scope would be something like the POSP series. They're still in use, after all: pretty advanced for being as "simple" as they are.

Also, going to check the limits on overall length on a shotgun before it goes into NFA/Short-barreled Shotgun/Class III territory. Dug out my single-shot break-open 20 Gauge I haven't touched since I was ten or twelve years old. The girlfriend and I cleaned it up real nice (looks brand new except for the barrel that I fudged: everything she worked on is in 99% condition :eyebrow: ). It has a 20" barrel, so I'll probably chop it down to the standard limit of 18". If the overall length suffices, I might also cut down the stock into a pistol grip-style thing. It'd be pretty bitchin'.


If scope doesn't incorporate a thermal/NIR dual mode night sight w/ 4x digital zoom, day sight w/ 2x zoom, laser range finder and built in ballistic computer, it isn't deserving of the title "modern".

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Postby Spreewerke » Sun May 27, 2012 10:25 pm

Galla- wrote:
Spreewerke wrote:A good Cold-War era style scope would be something like the POSP series. They're still in use, after all: pretty advanced for being as "simple" as they are.

Also, going to check the limits on overall length on a shotgun before it goes into NFA/Short-barreled Shotgun/Class III territory. Dug out my single-shot break-open 20 Gauge I haven't touched since I was ten or twelve years old. The girlfriend and I cleaned it up real nice (looks brand new except for the barrel that I fudged: everything she worked on is in 99% condition :eyebrow: ). It has a 20" barrel, so I'll probably chop it down to the standard limit of 18". If the overall length suffices, I might also cut down the stock into a pistol grip-style thing. It'd be pretty bitchin'.


If scope doesn't incorporate a thermal/NIR dual mode night sight w/ 4x digital zoom, day sight w/ 2x zoom, laser range finder and built in ballistic computer, it isn't deserving of the title "modern".

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I never said the POSP was modern, but okay.

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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Sun May 27, 2012 10:40 pm

What currently exists of the SAW-3:
http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/ ... 51hc0p.png
That round at the bottom there is a 7.62x51mm cartridge, for scale (the round this is to be chambered in).

It all looks... off... now that I've put that in.
Have my scalings derped?
It's supposed to lend features of both the M240 and PK.
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Postby New Corda » Sun May 27, 2012 10:49 pm

Spreewerke wrote:A good Cold-War era style scope would be something like the POSP series. They're still in use, after all: pretty advanced for being as "simple" as they are.

Also, going to check the limits on overall length on a shotgun before it goes into NFA/Short-barreled Shotgun/Class III territory. Dug out my single-shot break-open 20 Gauge I haven't touched since I was ten or twelve years old. The girlfriend and I cleaned it up real nice (looks brand new except for the barrel that I fudged: everything she worked on is in 99% condition :eyebrow: ). It has a 20" barrel, so I'll probably chop it down to the standard limit of 18". If the overall length suffices, I might also cut down the stock into a pistol grip-style thing. It'd be pretty bitchin'.


I was more going for a red dot or ACOG type sight, and I intended this rifle to have a more western feel to it as well. Hence the eventual choice of Colt x4, with some modifications.
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Postby New Corda » Sun May 27, 2012 10:50 pm

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:What currently exists of the SAW-3:
http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/ ... 51hc0p.png
That round at the bottom there is a 7.62x51mm cartridge, for scale (the round this is to be chambered in).

It all looks... off... now that I've put that in.
Have my scalings derped?
It's supposed to lend features of both the M240 and PK.

It seems kinda... Chunky. Maybe try slimming it down?
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Postby Spreewerke » Sun May 27, 2012 10:53 pm

New Corda wrote:
Spreewerke wrote:A good Cold-War era style scope would be something like the POSP series. They're still in use, after all: pretty advanced for being as "simple" as they are.

Also, going to check the limits on overall length on a shotgun before it goes into NFA/Short-barreled Shotgun/Class III territory. Dug out my single-shot break-open 20 Gauge I haven't touched since I was ten or twelve years old. The girlfriend and I cleaned it up real nice (looks brand new except for the barrel that I fudged: everything she worked on is in 99% condition :eyebrow: ). It has a 20" barrel, so I'll probably chop it down to the standard limit of 18". If the overall length suffices, I might also cut down the stock into a pistol grip-style thing. It'd be pretty bitchin'.


I was more going for a red dot or ACOG type sight, and I intended this rifle to have a more western feel to it as well. Hence the eventual choice of Colt x4, with some modifications.



POSP come in 4x magnification with a built in do-it-yourself range-finder (goes by a scale of 1m for the Simonov-style, 1.5m and .5m for 1,000m scope), bullet drop calculator, windage scale, and infrared illumination... I believe it also has some visible-to-the-eye illumination, as well: there is a tiny lightbulb in the bottom of it. I believe it's red.

The ACOG is a 4x magnification (if referring to the standard issue one in the USMC), has bullet-drop, but I think that's about it. However, the ACOG does have the benefit of always being the perfect illumination thanks to some radioactive materials (forget which) for night-time use and fiber optics for day-time use: battery-free.

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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Sun May 27, 2012 11:08 pm

New Corda wrote:
Samozaryadnyastan wrote:What currently exists of the SAW-3:
http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/ ... 51hc0p.png
That round at the bottom there is a 7.62x51mm cartridge, for scale (the round this is to be chambered in).

It all looks... off... now that I've put that in.
Have my scalings derped?
It's supposed to lend features of both the M240 and PK.

It seems kinda... Chunky. Maybe try slimming it down?

I'll have a go at re-calculating the scales on the PKP and M240 references, see where this girth has come from.

I think I couldn't actually be bothered calculating it this time, and just guessed by eye.
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Postby New Corda » Sun May 27, 2012 11:18 pm

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I was more going for a red dot or ACOG type sight, and I intended this rifle to have a more western feel to it as well. Hence the eventual choice of Colt x4, with some modifications.



POSP come in 4x magnification with a built in do-it-yourself range-finder (goes by a scale of 1m for the Simonov-style, 1.5m and .5m for 1,000m scope), bullet drop calculator, windage scale, and infrared illumination... I believe it also has some visible-to-the-eye illumination, as well: there is a tiny lightbulb in the bottom of it. I believe it's red.

The ACOG is a 4x magnification (if referring to the standard issue one in the USMC), has bullet-drop, but I think that's about it. However, the ACOG does have the benefit of always being the perfect illumination thanks to some radioactive materials (forget which) for night-time use and fiber optics for day-time use: battery-free.


I belive Tritium is the mineral you are looking for.

I wanted something less clunky and more western.
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Postby Spreewerke » Sun May 27, 2012 11:23 pm

New Corda wrote:
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POSP come in 4x magnification with a built in do-it-yourself range-finder (goes by a scale of 1m for the Simonov-style, 1.5m and .5m for 1,000m scope), bullet drop calculator, windage scale, and infrared illumination... I believe it also has some visible-to-the-eye illumination, as well: there is a tiny lightbulb in the bottom of it. I believe it's red.

The ACOG is a 4x magnification (if referring to the standard issue one in the USMC), has bullet-drop, but I think that's about it. However, the ACOG does have the benefit of always being the perfect illumination thanks to some radioactive materials (forget which) for night-time use and fiber optics for day-time use: battery-free.


I belive Tritium is the mineral you are looking for.

I wanted something less clunky and more western.


You could probably manage to westernize the technology and cram it into a normal-looking scope. Just know that the new PSO/POSP model scopes can come in variants that attach to rails instead of the big arm thing that goes on the side of the receiver. Also; you're correct on the mineral.

I guess you could look into that Colt scope or just a compact 1x scope with a black dot reticule. I think the early ones had the dot held in place with strands of spiders' silk, so if it worked for hunting rifles... no idea about fully-automatics, but I guess you could look into that. It'd enable them to use a both-eyes-open red black-dot set-up. It wouldn't be good for dark backdrops, but it'd be easier than other things, I guess. Since it'd be a solid object, I don't know if the eye would try to focus on it or not. If so, it would negate its entire purpose.

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Postby Coltarin » Mon May 28, 2012 12:26 am

could I use a spring assisted mag ejector on my rifle? If I can should I? I was thinking of this because I noticed that in combat it may be hard to reload with just an ejector button. Also my do something coll for my 1600th post
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