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Postby Ultra-Humanite » Sat May 19, 2012 2:47 pm

Aside from the flamethrower, we also have the Duck's foot.

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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Sat May 19, 2012 2:48 pm

9mm's fatter, but 7.62 carries more punch. Hard to say.

Brit, 20-round FAL magazines are 13.25mm (0.522in) taller at the rear than the front.
I'd also recommend slanting the bottom of your pistol grips as well, that flat bottom doesn't look quite natural somehow.
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Postby Risen Britannia » Sat May 19, 2012 2:49 pm

Galla- wrote:
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damn 900pix limit

20 inch barrel


Magazines need slanted bottoms, not flat.

There is no srscartridge magazine that isnt at least partially curved.

CTA/CLA doesn't count it lacks the sheer masculinity of hot brass.

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Curved mags are for tiny baby man! Manly men only use straight mags
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Postby Galla- » Sat May 19, 2012 2:58 pm

Risen Britannia wrote:
Galla- wrote:
Magazines need slanted bottoms, not flat.

There is no srscartridge magazine that isnt at least partially curved.

CTA/CLA doesn't count it lacks the sheer masculinity of hot brass.

inb4someoneposts.30cal15rounder

Curved mags are for tiny baby man! Manly men only use straight mags


That's all well and good, but observe:

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You still have to accommodate the taper of the cartridge.

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Sevvania wrote:In terms of effects on a "soft" target, which would be do more damage?7.62x38mmR or 9x19mm Parabellum?

Dear god the Nagant. Dem exit wounds.


.32 Nagant probably is roughly similar to .32 S&W or .32 ACP in terminal ballistics, tbh.

I'd honestly choose the 9mm NATO over it, unless I were using a revolver, then I'd choose .32 H&R Magnum.

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:9mm's fatter, but 7.62 carries more punch. Hard to say.

Brit, 20-round FAL magazines are 13.25mm (0.522in) taller at the rear than the front.
I'd also recommend slanting the bottom of your pistol grips as well, that flat bottom doesn't look quite natural somehow.


They're actually rather common. M14E2, M240B, Type 62, and FG-42 are ones I can think of off the top of my head.
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Postby Risen Britannia » Sat May 19, 2012 3:03 pm

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Postby New Corda » Sat May 19, 2012 3:04 pm

But 6.5 CBJ make em both look like tiny baby. >5.56 damage to tissue, even after penetrating the rear hatch of a BMP.
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Postby New Corda » Sat May 19, 2012 3:05 pm

New Corda wrote:But 6.5 CBJ make em both look like tiny baby. >5.56 damage to tissue, even after penetrating the rear hatch of a BMP.


Edit: it can also be fired from any 9mm Para weapon after only a barrel change.
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Postby Galla- » Sat May 19, 2012 3:06 pm

Risen Britannia wrote:
Galla- wrote:snip

... communist scum
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It's better now.

Also:

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New Corda wrote:But 6.5 CBJ make em both look like tiny baby. >5.56 damage to tissue, even after penetrating the rear hatch of a BMP.


So an armour piercing pistol cartridge outperforms a ball plinking/varmint round?

I'll wait until 6.5 CBJ outperforms a 7.62 NATO with M855A1-derived bullet.
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Postby Crookfur » Sat May 19, 2012 3:08 pm

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:I assume the hydrogen is there for gas pressure, wouldn't nitrogen be safer?

Also, you have a max range on a still day of 40m. 20-25m as a general rule of thumb.

Meanwhile, 600m BR glory with optics.


actually the hydrogen is part of the ignition system, basically you get a tiny spark from the battery which is just enough to ignite the hydrogen and its the hydrogen flame that ignites the main fuel stream..


As for my typos they shouldn;t be too horrible to your inner gramar nazi just your spelling and typing nazis ;)
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Sat May 19, 2012 3:08 pm

What about softpoints for the nagant? Would that improve ballistics without sacrificing tissue damage?
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Postby Galla- » Sat May 19, 2012 3:11 pm

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:What about softpoints for the nagant? Would that improve ballistics without sacrificing tissue damage?


A 9mm JHP will still expand more.
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Sat May 19, 2012 3:12 pm

Crookfur wrote:
Samozaryadnyastan wrote:I assume the hydrogen is there for gas pressure, wouldn't nitrogen be safer?

Also, you have a max range on a still day of 40m. 20-25m as a general rule of thumb.

Meanwhile, 600m BR glory with optics.


actually the hydrogen is part of the ignition system, basically you get a tiny spark from the battery which is just enough to ignite the hydrogen and its the hydrogen flame that ignites the main fuel stream..


As for my typos they shouldn;t be too horrible to your inner gramar nazi just your spelling and typing nazis ;)
I thought most flamethrowers ignited the jet directly from the battery?
I just don't recall hearing of a hydrogen ignition system being mentioned in my WWII encyclopaedia.
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Galla- wrote:snip

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I think you should slant the pistol grip even more, don't forget that's gonna be at a nearly 30 degree angle.
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Postby Risen Britannia » Sat May 19, 2012 3:17 pm

As I haven't posted this here:
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Postby Crookfur » Sat May 19, 2012 3:26 pm

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:
Crookfur wrote:
actually the hydrogen is part of the ignition system, basically you get a tiny spark from the battery which is just enough to ignite the hydrogen and its the hydrogen flame that ignites the main fuel stream..


As for my typos they shouldn;t be too horrible to your inner gramar nazi just your spelling and typing nazis ;)
I thought most flamethrowers ignited the jet directly from the battery?
I just don't recall hearing of a hydrogen ignition system being mentioned in my WWII encyclopaedia.


Flame throwers had all sorts of different ignition mechanisms ranging from pyrotechnic cartridges (UK "Lifebouy" No2 model), to hydrogen torches (US M1 and German FmW 35) to a lump of bunring rope (polish under groudn K pattern).
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Postby Astrolinium » Sat May 19, 2012 3:32 pm

Our main military weapon is our friends, who have militaries that aren't a joke.
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Postby Mosasauria » Sat May 19, 2012 5:18 pm

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Postby New Corda » Sat May 19, 2012 8:22 pm

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SCT-810 "Ranger Special"

Caliber: 8mm XSPR (think 6.5 CBJ, but based on 10mm Auto rather then 9mm Para) / 30mm HE Grenade

Capacity: 35 rounds / 1 grenade
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Postby Galla- » Sat May 19, 2012 8:25 pm

Risen Britannia wrote:-plane-

(Image)


chestypuller.jpg

Where does the bayonet go?
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Postby Our Most Resplendent Goddess Sen » Sat May 19, 2012 8:37 pm

Galla- wrote:
Risen Britannia wrote:-plane-

(Image)


chestypuller.jpg

Where does the bayonet go?


probably over the barrel like the real thing
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Postby Galla- » Sat May 19, 2012 8:44 pm

Our Most Resplendent Goddess Sen wrote:
Galla- wrote:
chestypuller.jpg

Where does the bayonet go?


probably over the barrel like the real thing


Oh right derp.

Fuck and I have an PTR91 in my closet with the bayonet fixed. I guess I was expecting it to be mounted in a masculine way. >:
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Postby New Corda » Sat May 19, 2012 8:57 pm

And the 8mm XSPR round, with it's 10mm Auto parent case for comparison

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Postby Galla- » Sat May 19, 2012 8:59 pm

New Corda wrote:And the 8mm XSPR round, with it's 10mm Auto parent case for comparison

(Image)


this rly pretteh

and yes 10mm auto is best cartridge i even made a pdw round based on it:

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before anyone says it, yes I'm making a MARS rip eventually
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Postby Vigilancia » Sat May 19, 2012 9:03 pm

So, let's do a little scenario here.

Let's say you're looking for a new weapon for police officers to use. Let's say the year is 1950-something. And, for good measure, why not let you decide whether it's a revolver or a semiautomatic? But of course, it would need to use a large enough round to be effective not only against criminals, but also against wild animals, because the country you're running here is a bit... rural in some areas.

In that hypothetical situation, what features would you request?

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Postby Galla- » Sat May 19, 2012 9:06 pm

Vigilancia wrote:So, let's do a little scenario here.

Let's say you're looking for a new weapon for police officers to use. Let's say the year is 1950-something. And, for good measure, why not let you decide whether it's a revolver or a semiautomatic? But of course, it would need to use a large enough round to be effective not only against criminals, but also against wild animals, because the country you're running here is a bit... rural in some areas.

In that hypothetical situation, what features would you request?


Recoil operated revolver chambered in .30 Carbine with JHP loads. So basically a semi-automatic Ruger Blackhawk with a bayonet.

Failing that, Webley-Fosbery with a Pritchard bayonet, which is what a Gallan constable would be carrying ~1910-1967.

Anything bigger is handled by the Browning Automatic Rifle in the squad car.
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Postby Vigilancia » Sat May 19, 2012 9:07 pm

Galla- wrote:
Vigilancia wrote:So, let's do a little scenario here.

Let's say you're looking for a new weapon for police officers to use. Let's say the year is 1950-something. And, for good measure, why not let you decide whether it's a revolver or a semiautomatic? But of course, it would need to use a large enough round to be effective not only against criminals, but also against wild animals, because the country you're running here is a bit... rural in some areas.

In that hypothetical situation, what features would you request?


Recoil operated revolver chambered in .30 Carbine with JHP loads.

So basically a semi-automatic Ruger Blackhawk with a bayonet.


A bayonet?

No.

EDIT: Because that would look goofy. And they're supposed to club people, damnit, not stab them!
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