MMW MkV thread. It's been fun.

[Crookfur]

I have read somewhere that the Italians had a machine gun in WW2 that was magazine fed and that returned spent casings into the magazine. How is that supposed to work? And does anyone have any idea what I am talking about?

its the Breda M37: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breda_M37 and it used a strip feed system.

[Purpelia]

I have read somewhere that the Italians had a machine gun in WW2 that was magazine fed and that returned spent casings into the magazine. How is that supposed to work? And does anyone have any idea what I am talking about?

its the Breda M37: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breda_M37 and it used a strip feed system.

How did it do it thou? And could something like that be done for modern rifles? Obviously omitting the oiling brush part. And what is a stripper cartrige...

EDIT: Wait a second. A stripper cartridge would not happen to be a stripper clip inserted into a fixed, non removable box? How would that.... even more driven crazy.

[Indeos]

its the Breda M37: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breda_M37 and it used a strip feed system.

How did it do it thou? And could something like that be done for modern rifles? Obviously omitting the oiling brush part. And what is a stripper cartrige...

EDIT: Wait a second. A stripper cartridge would not happen to be a stripper clip inserted into a fixed, non removable box? How would that.... even more driven crazy.

The cartridges have to be oiled, if I read that thing right. There's a reason the system isn't used now; you could probably make a modern rifle with it, but it wouldn't be much good.

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

Does this stock look sufficiently beefy to handle a 14.5mm round?

[Purpelia]

How did it do it thou? And could something like that be done for modern rifles? Obviously omitting the oiling brush part. And what is a stripper cartrige...

EDIT: Wait a second. A stripper cartridge would not happen to be a stripper clip inserted into a fixed, non removable box? How would that.... even more driven crazy.

The cartridges have to be oiled, if I read that thing right. There's a reason the system isn't used now; you could probably make a modern rifle with it, but it wouldn't be much good.

From what I understand thou that was because the thing had no extractor. And besides at this point I am just going "WTH how did that thing even work?"

[Indeos]

The cartridges have to be oiled, if I read that thing right. There's a reason the system isn't used now; you could probably make a modern rifle with it, but it wouldn't be much good.

From what I understand thou that was because the thing had no extractor. And besides at this point I am just going "WTH how did that thing even work?"

I feel like we both do that far, far too much.

[Crookfur]

its the Breda M37: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breda_M37 and it used a strip feed system.

How did it do it thou? And could something like that be done for modern rifles? Obviously omitting the oiling brush part. And what is a stripper cartrige...

EDIT: Wait a second. A stripper cartridge would not happen to be a stripper clip inserted into a fixed, non removable box? How would that.... even more driven crazy.

I'm honestly no sure how it was done. i suspect that the strip was not advanced on the opening stroke of the mechanism so the bolt travel probabaly just pulled the round straight back into place on the strip at which point the strip advances and the next round gets fed forwards into the chamber.

Strip feeding uses a long strip of metal like this:

http://static.flickr.com/3192/2644154777_66d34ec4a6.jpg

That gets advanced by the mechanism to bring the roudns into place. First appeared in the hotchkiss Mgs IIRC and spread amoungst nations with a perchant for oddness (i.e. the italians) or for ripping off hotchkiss guns (the japanese).

You could do it witha mdoern rifle if you prepared to put up with the hellishly fickle nature of strip feeds

[Purpelia]

How did it do it thou? And could something like that be done for modern rifles? Obviously omitting the oiling brush part. And what is a stripper cartrige...

EDIT: Wait a second. A stripper cartridge would not happen to be a stripper clip inserted into a fixed, non removable box? How would that.... even more driven crazy.

I'm honestly no sure how it was done. i suspect that the strip was not advanced on the opening stroke of the mechanism so the bolt travel probabaly just pulled the round straight back into place on the strip at which point the strip advances and the next round gets fed forwards into the chamber.

Strip feeding uses a long strip of metal like this:

http://static.flickr.com/3192/2644154777_66d34ec4a6.jpg

That gets advanced by the mechanism to bring the roudns into place. First appeared in the hotchkiss Mgs IIRC and spread amoungst nations with a perchant for oddness (i.e. the italians) or for ripping off hotchkiss guns (the japanese).

You could do it witha mdoern rifle if you prepared to put up with the hellishly fickle nature of strip feeds

Something tells me that this thing actually moves forward through the weapon and comes out the other side... And that sort of seems to undermine any benefit gained from not ejecting casings.

[Mosasauria]

Tonight I decided to take a look at one of the gun magazines they have in the local super market near my house, after just getting home from a long trip.
Why does everything have to be rails and tacticlolness rather than reliability, cheap cost, and innovation?

[Spreewerke]

Tonight I decided to take a look at one of the gun magazines they have in the local super market near my house, after just getting home from a long trip.
Why does everything have to be rails and tacticlolness rather than reliability, cheap cost, and innovation?

You want an AK, you say?

[Indeos]

Tonight I decided to take a look at one of the gun magazines they have in the local super market near my house, after just getting home from a long trip.
Why does everything have to be rails and tacticlolness rather than reliability, cheap cost, and innovation?

You want an AK, you say?

Didn't you read it? He wants a Mosin or a Mauser.

[Mosasauria]

Tonight I decided to take a look at one of the gun magazines they have in the local super market near my house, after just getting home from a long trip.
Why does everything have to be rails and tacticlolness rather than reliability, cheap cost, and innovation?

You want an AK, you say?

I want just about any rifle that isn't a .22.
Although a tactic-bastardized American-made AK "pistol" was the main gun in the magazine...

[Den Svenska Riket]

how likely would it be for my nation to use a air cooled MG for an armored car?

[Nua Corda]

Very likely, given that you're post-WWI. Air-cooled MGs have been primary armament for most non-tank ground vehicles for forever.

[Den Svenska Riket]

Very likely, given that you're post-WWI. Air-cooled MGs have been primary armament for most non-tank ground vehicles for forever.

sorry I meant for a WWI ac

[Accorsi]

Mannlicher-Carcano carbine

[Mosasauria]

(Image)

Mannlicher-Carcano carbine

Blergh.
Understandable for your nation, and you likely should be using it, but that weapon... *Shudders*

Wait, wait, wait, has anyone else noticed that the Breda and the Carcano have been brought up on the same page?

[Spreewerke]

(Image)

Mannlicher-Carcano carbine

Blergh.
Understandable for your nation, and you likely should be using it, but that weapon... *Shudders*

Wait, wait, wait, has anyone else noticed that the Breda and the Carcano have been brought up on the same page?

That just blows my mind.

[Nua Corda]

Very likely, given that you're post-WWI. Air-cooled MGs have been primary armament for most non-tank ground vehicles for forever.

sorry I meant for a WWI ac

Then possible, but unlikely. Water-cooled was the name of the game in the Great War.

[San-Silvacian]

However did this should feel bad and is bad.

[Spreewerke]

However did this should feel bad and is bad.

What you're viewing there is an AR-15 with an aftermarket piston kit.

[Mosasauria]

However did this should feel bad and is bad.

I don't see much wrong with it, seeing as how it appears to add modularity while still maintaining performance.

[Paddy O Fernature]

However did this should feel bad and is bad.

What you're viewing there is an AR-15 with an aftermarket piston kit.

^ This

[Spreewerke]

I also shortened that link to look at the rest of the site. Accidentally clicked "last page," and saw this: http://www.gunslot.com/reviews/ak-47-review

What in the fuck? I don't even know what to say. Not just the review, but the comments. Holy Christ. My favourite was the guy stating "My WASR is awesome: it keyholes at 50m and gets 2MOA."

Please, baby Jesus, let this be sarcasm.

[Mosasauria]

I also shortened that link to look at the rest of the site. Accidentally clicked "last page," and saw this: http://www.gunslot.com/reviews/ak-47-review

What in the fuck? I don't even know what to say. Not just the review, but the comments. Holy Christ. My favourite was the guy stating "My WASR is awesome: it keyholes at 50m and gets 2MOA."

Please, baby Jesus, let this be sarcasm.

Why? Just why?